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mumukShu- pahale dravyadRuShTi karanI yA pahale vyavahAr karanA?

samAdhAna- yathArtha dravyadRuShTi ho vahAn yathArtha vyavahAr A jAtA hai. pahale vyavahAr to anAdikA hai. dravyadRuShTike sAth vyavahAr sAthamen rahA hai. dravyadRuShTi yathArtha kise kahate hain? ki usake sAth vyavahAr hotA hai. yadi sab chhUT jAye to vah dRuShTi hI samyak nahIn hai. samyagdRuShTi ho, yathArtha dRuShTi ho to usake sAth gnAn hotA hai aur yathArtha svarUp ramaNatA hotI hai. aisI nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhi hai. dRuShTi gnAyak par gayI isaliye pUrNa mukti arthAt pUrNa vedan nahIn ho jAtA. abhI nyUnatA hai, tab tak puruShArtha hai.

mumukShukI dashAmen vah nakkI kare ki main svabhAvase nirmal hai. usake bhedagnAnakA prayAs kare ki main bhinna hUn. yah sab ekatvabuddhi toDanekA prayatna kare. prayatna aur dRuShTi Adi sab sAthamen rahate hain. usakI bhAvanAmen bhI vaisA honA chAhiye. ... nAsh nahIn huA hai. svabhAvako svayam grahaN kare. jaisA svabhAv hai vaisA hI grahaN kare. phir paryAyamen nyUnatA hai, ashuddhatA hai, sabako TAlakar shuddhatAkA prayAs kare.

mumukShu- .. dRuShTikA bal baDh jAtA hogA?

samAdhAna- paryAy hai hI nahIn, aisA karanese dRuShTikA bal baDh jAtA hai, aisA nahIn hai. jaisA hai vaisA yathArtha jAne to dRuShTikA bal baDhatA hai. paryAy hai. hai hI nahIn, aisA mAnanA aisA dRuShTikA viShay nahIn hai. usakI dRuShTike viShayamen nahIn hai. parantu paryAy vastu hI nahIn hai aur dravyako paryAy hai hI nahIn, yah yathArtha gnAn nahIn hai. dRuShTike viShayamen nahIn hai. dRuShTike viShayamen paryAy AtI nahIn. usakA dhyey ek dravya par hai. isaliye paryAy usakI dRuShTimen nahIn hai, isaliye paryAy hai hI nahIn, aisA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- ... rAgako jAnanA aur us prakArake svayamkA svabhAvakI orake puruShArthako jAnanA, to in tInonko jAnanemen koI antar hai?

samAdhAna- jAnanA vah to jAnanA hI hai. rAgako jAne yA parako jAne yA puruShArthako jAne, parantu usakA svarUp jAne ki rAg vah vibhAvaparyAy hai. sharIrAdi paradravya hai aur yah puruShArtha hai, vah svarUpakI orakA puruShArtha hai. usakA svarUp jaisA hai vaisA jAnA. jAnanA to jAnanA hai, parantu usakA svarUp kaisA hai? gneyonkA svabhAv bhinna-bhinna hai,

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aisA jAne. jAnanA hI hai.

mumukShu- gneyonkA svabhAv bhinna-bhinna hai, to jaise parapadArthake sAth koI sambandha nahIn hai, vaise....?

samAdhAna- vah to jaisI vastu hai vaisA jAnatA hai. paradravya merA svarUp nahIn hai, main paradravyase bhinna hUn, yah vibhAvaparyAy merA svabhAv nahIn hai. aur yah main sAdhanA karatA hUn, yah jo paryAy hai vah ansh hai. pUrNa anshI jo pUrA hai, vah pUrNa hai vah svarUp bhinna hai aur yah ansh hai. jaise hain vaise sab prakAr jAnatA hai. svayam yathArtha jAnatA hai. yah sab jAnaneke prakAr hain. gnAn to sab jAnatA hai. yathArtha jAne aur phir puruShArtha karane yogya ho us orakA puruShArtha hai. heyako hey jAne, upAdeyako upAdey jAnatA hai. jaisA hai vaisA jAnatA hai. (dravya) par dRuShTi rakhatA hai. dRuShTikA viShay grahaN karake sab kAyAmen juDatA hai.

ek sphaTik vastuko grahaN kiyA ki yah sphaTik hai. saphed hai aur chamakavAlA hai, vah sab usake bhed hue. parantu ek grahaN kiyA ki main chaitanya hUn. astitvako grahaN karake phir sab jAnatA hai. astitvako astitva jAne, paryAyako paryAy jAne, malinatAko malinatA jAne, aise jAnatA hai. use bhinna karatA hai ki yah main nahIn hUn. yah paradravya hai, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai. puruShArthase gnAyakakI dhArAko ugra karatA hai. jAnakar vivek karatA hai. us prakAr usakA puruShArtha chalatA hai.

mumukShu- apane astitvakI pakkaD rakhakar jo bhAv jis svarUp hai, us rUp use vah jAnatA hai.

samAdhAna- barAbar jAnatA hai. us prakAr use jo lAbharUp ho us kAryamen juDatA hai. jo apanA nahIn hai, usase bhinna paDatA hai.

mumukShu- yAnI jo lAbharUp jAnanemen AtA hai us or sahaj hI usakA jor chalatA hai aur jo hAnikArak hai us orase...

samAdhAna- vahAnse chhUTanekA prayatna karatA hai. ghar sambhAlakar sab kAyAmen juDatA hai. chaitanyake ghar par dRuShTi rakhe to dUsarA chhUT jAye, aur vah kare to yah chhUT jAye, aisA nahIn hotA. usase bhinna paDatA hai. puruShArtha karake nirmalatA (pragaT karatA hai). use nirmalatAkA vedan hai. malinatAkA malinatArUp hai.

mumukShu- Ap kahate ho ki sulabh hai, parantu hamen to usase adhik durlabh bAkI kuchh nahIn dikhatA.

samAdhAna- antaramen hI karanA hai, parantu vah kaThin ho gayA hai. svayam gnAyakako pahachAne to saral hI hai. gnAyakako bhinna jAna. sharIrase bhinna, vibhAvase apanA svabhAv

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bhinna hai. sab bhinna hai. AsAn hI hai, parantu kare to. na kare to durlabh hai. aise hI ananta kAl chalA gayA. ananta kAlase prApta nahIn huA hai, isaliye durlabh hai, parantu kare to AsAn hai.

.. kitane sAl bIt gaye, Age baDhanA hai. bahut sAl bIt gaye isaliye ab kyA Aye? vah to kahanekI bAt hai. usamen aisA nahIn hai, yah koI laukik bAt nahIn hai, yah to AtmAkI bAt hai. pratignA lI vah to achchhI bAt hai. parantu merI tabiyat aisI hai na, isaliye. .. usakA lAbh milA aur pratignAkA prasang banA. andar AtmAkA hetu hai... jo jignAsu hai use niShphal nahIn jAnevAlA hai, phalegA. nij AtmAke hetuse pratignA lI hai.

mumukShu- aisA hotA hai, bAharamen akele shubhabhAvamen..

samAdhAna- ... puruShArtha hotA ho to karanA, achchhI bAt hai. nahIn to gahare sanskAr Dale vah lAbhakA kAraN hai. ho sake to karanA, nahIn to shraddhA to jarUr karanA, aisA shAstramen AtA hai. ho sake to dhyAnamay pratikramaN karanA. na ho sake to kartavya hai-shraddhA hI kartavya hai. shraddhAmen pheraphAr (nahIn honA chAhiye). shraddhA kartavya hai. to Age baDhA jAyegA. shraddhAkA bal barAbar rakhanA chAhiye.

gnAyakake mArgake sivA dUsarA koI mArga nahIn hai. bAharake koI kriyAkANDamen mArga nahIn hai, yah to antarakA mArga hai. gnAyakakI shraddhA karake bhedagnAn karanA, dravya par dRuShTi karanA, sharIrase AtmA bhinna, vikalpase apanA svabhAv bhinna, sabase bhinna ek gnAyakako bhinna karanA, dUsarA koI mArga nahIn hai. sarvasva sab vibhAvase bhinna svayam hai. vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. usakA bhedagnAn, usakI nirantar dhArA, vah sab karane jaisA hai. usakI shraddhA barAbar karanA, ban sake to. dhyAnamay gnAyakakI pariNati karanA, na ho sake to shraddhA karanA.

dev-gurune jo batAyA, dev-gurukI shraddhA aur AtmAkI shraddhA-do batAyA, vah karanA hai. dev-gurukA sAnnidhya mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. unakI mahimA karanI, bAkI gnAyakakI mahimA karanI. gnAyak mahimAvant hai, vahI pahachAnane yogya hai. usake gahare sanskAr DAlanA. ban sake to pariNati pragaT ho to achchhI bAt hai, nahIn to shraddhA kartavya hai.

... chha, chaudah kitane-kitane... AtmAkA kalyAN karaneke liye sab taiyAr ho gaye, gurudevake sAnnidhyamen. sabake prasang bAr-bAr Aye vah to ek AnandakI bAt hai. merI tabiyat aisI hai. itane sAl sabako Anandase... kitane vaShA tak vANI sunI. kitanA Ananda... pratignA lI thI, tab sab kitane chhoTe-chhoTe the. is bhavamen sab taiyArI kar lenI. puruShArtha ho sake to karanA, nahIn to sab taiyArI kar lenI. deshanAlabdhi,

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gurudevakI deshanAlabdhi prApta huyI. ekadam gahare bIj aise DAle ho ki turanta khIl jAya. aise gahare sanskAr DAlane.

... koI bahut hue hain, koI kam hue hain, aise huA hai. sab alag-alag Ate hain na, darshan ho tab sab bIch-bIchamen A jAte hain, sab alag-alag Ate hain. aisA prasang hai, mahAbhAgya...! yah sab ... prApta huA vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. usamen AtmA svayam taiyAr ho, taiyAr ho to ho sake aisA hai. gurudev mile aur yah sab milA.

... AtmA bhinna, AtmAkA svabhAv bhinna, andar vikalpa Aye usase apanA svabhAv bhinna, sab bhinna hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, antar AtmAkI mahimA, gnAyakakA dhyAn rakhanA, vah sab karanA hai. bahut sunA hai, usakA andar raTan karanA hai.

mumukShu- Apake aur gurudevake pratApase samAdhAn karate hain, to bhI bahut dukh hotA hai.

samAdhAna- bArambAr prayAs karanA.

mumukShu- achchhA nahIn lagatA hai, parantu dUsarA koI chArA nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- sharIr kAm nahIn kare, usamen kyA ho sakatA hai? kyA ho sakatA hai, jAnA paDe.

.. gnAyak kaise pahachAnamen Aye, jIvanamen vahI karane jaisA hai. gurudevane mArga batAyA vahI karanA hai. jain dharmakA rahasya kisIko jAnanA ho to usamen A jAtA hai. adhyAtmakA rahasya. anyamen chhoTI gItA Adi AtA hai. apanemen yah chhoTA shAstra (hai). sab (shAstra) sAthamen nahIn rakh sake to itane chhoTemen A jAtA hai. bAlakonko kAm Ave, baDonko kAm Ave, sabako kAm Ave. aur siddhAnta praveshikA jise samajhanI ho usake liye vah bhI hai aur yah hai. ... yah sab shAstra to hai, yah chhoTemen sab A jAtA hai. vivaraN kiyA hai, thoDA-thoDA vah andar (AtA hai). chha dravya, nau tattva usakA thoDA andar (AtA hai). yah lok svatasiddha hai, Adi sab liyA hai. sabako kAm Ave aisA hai. siddhAnta praveshikAmen sankShepamen koI samajhe nahIn to phir kahe, ab kyA karanA? ab kyA? sab kanThastha ho gayA. yah ek svAdhyAy karane jaisA aur kanThastha karane jaisA, sab prakArase aisA hai. samayasAramen sab paDhe vah to achchhI bAt hai, lekin nahIn paDh sake to sankShepamen A jAtA hai.

mumukShu- mUl gAthAen sab A gayI.

samAdhAna- mUl gAthAen A jAye. phir pravachanasAramen dravya-guN-paryAyakA A jAye, isamen chha dravya Adi. niyamasAramen pAriNAmikabhAv AdikA sankShepamen A jAtA hai. kalashamen svAnubhUti Adi, sabamen tattva A jAtA hai. .. kyA AtA hai, yah jAnanA chAhe to

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isamen sab A jAtA hai.

.. antaramen AyA, jise guN pragaT hue, muktikA mArga jise pragaT huA, antaramen jise darshan, gnAn, chAritra pragaT huA, aise gurukI bhakti shiShyonko Aye binA rahatI hI nahIn. AchArya bhI shAstra likhate hain, tab siddha bhagavAnako, arihant bhagavAnako namaskAr karake hI likhate hain. baDonko Age rakhakar hI shAstra likhate hain. AchAryako bhI aisA hotA hai. mAtra likhaneke khAtir nahIn, bhAvase likhate hain.

kundakundAchArya bhI kahate hain ki mujhe jo Atma-vaibhav prApta huA, vah mere guruse prApta huA hai. devAdhidev arihantadev bhagavAnakI paramparA aur mere gurune jo mujhe AtmAkA vaibhav darshAyA, usase mujhe pragaT huA hai. aisA kahate hain. gurukI bhakti to Aye binA nahIn rahatI. jise AtmAkI sAdhanA karanI hai, use gurukI bhakti to sAthamen hotI hI hai. gurune jo dhyey batAyA ki tU gnAyakako grahaN kar, us gnAyakakamen-us shuddhAtmAmen koI vikalpa nahIn hai. shuddhAtmA sab vikalpase bhinna hai. shubhAshubh bhAvonse usakA svabhAv bhinna hai. aisA guru darshAte hain. grahaN use karanA hai. gurune jo svabhAv darshAyA, us svabhAvako pahachAnakar antaramen grahaN karanA svayamko hai. lekin bIchamen gurukI bhakti Aye binA nahIn rahatI. panch parameShThIkI bhakti, gurukI bhakti, jinhonne mArga batAyA, unakI bhakti use sAth-sAth hotI hI hai.

jo AtmAkI sAdhanA kar rahe hain, use bhI gurukI bhakti hotI hai. to jignAsuko to sAthamen hotI hI hai. jise darshan, gnAn, chAritra pragaT huA, aise AchArya bhI gurukI bhakti (karake) guruko Age rakhate hain. padmanandI AchArya bhI jab shAstra likhate hain, tab jinendra devakI kaisI bhakti karate hain! Apake darshanase, bhagavAn! merA sab Tal jAtA hai. bhagavAn! bAdalake jo yah TUkaDe hue, jab meru parvat par abhiShek huA, us vakta indrane bhUjAonko phailAyA tab bAdalake TUkaDe ho gaye. kaisI bhakti kI hai, AchAryane bhI! jo AtmAkI ArAdhanA karate hain, chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate hain, nirvikalpa tattvamen bArambAr nirvikalpasvarUp pariNamit ho jAte hain. bAhar Aye tab shAstra likhate hain. tattvake, bhakti Adike likhate hain. AchAyAko bhI (bhakti) hotI hai.

samyagdRuShTi jo gRuhasthAshramamen hote hain, unhen bhI gurukI bhakti hotI hai. to jignAsuko gurukI bhakti (ho, usamen kahAn prashna hai?) svayam kuchh jAnatA nahIn aur jo mArga darshAte hain, unakI bhakti Aye binA nahIn rahatI. tattvavichAr, dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti Adi sab bIchamen AtA hai. antaramen vairAgya, virakti, shubhAshubh bhAvonse-vibhAvase virakti aur gurukI bhakti, svabhAvakI mahimA Adi jignAsukI bhUmikAmen hotA hai.

... dUsaronko kar nahIn sakatA, guru kahe, isaliye vah kar nahIn sakatA hai, ...

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parantu use bhAvanAmen shubhabhAvamen svayamko Age baDhanA hai, usamen shubhabhAv Aye binA nahIn rahate. guruke Age ekadam vinayavAn (ho jAtA hai) aur bhakti Aye binA nahIn rahatI.

dravyadRuShTise svayam prabhu jaisA hai, paryAyamen svayam pAmar hai. prabhu, bhagavAn, gurudev! main to pAmar hUn. aisI bhAvanA use hotI hai. usamen bhI AtA hai, svayam dravyadRuShTise prabhu jaisA hai, parantu paryAyamen pAmaratA hai. sab meremen hai, aisI dRuShTi ho tab tak Age nahIn baDh sakatA. gurune hI sab samajhAyA hai aur guru hI sarvasva hai. aisA usake hRudayamen ho to vah Age baDh sakatA hai.

Age baDhanA hai, dravya par dRuShTi karanI hai, bhedagnAn karanA hai, darshan-gnAn-chAritra pragaT karanA hai, bahut karanekA bAkI hai. svabhAvamen sab hai, parantu sAdhanAmen sab pragaT karanA hai. isaliye shubhabhAvamen dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti Aye binA nahIn rahatI.