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mumukShu- shubhabhAvakA avalamban kab tak hai?

samAdhAna- shubhabhAv bIchamen Ate hain. antaramen jAnemen dravyakA Alamban hai, parantu vyavahAramen shubhabhAv Aye binA nahIn rahate. ashubhabhAvonse bachaneke liye shubhabhAv use bIchamen Ate hain. Alamban dravyakA hai, parantu bIchamen vyavahAramen bhI dev-guru-shAstrake nimitta hote hain. anAdi kAlase jo samajhamen nahIn AyA hai. usamen pahalI bAr samajhe tok deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. koI devakA yA gurukA upadesh mile to aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. tab use andar pragaT hotA hai. Alamban svayamkA hai, parantu shubhabhAvamen bhI vyavahAr shubhabhAvakA vyavahAr bIchamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA. vyavahAramen dev-guru-shAstrakA Alamban hai. andar AtmAko pahachAnanA vah prayojan hai.

mumukShu- ... to vastu prApta hogI. bhagavAn dikhe to vahAn dauDakar jAyeennge, aise AtmAko samajhanekI pyAs lage to gnAnIke pAs doDakar jAyen. use thoDA samajhAIye.

samAdhAna- usakA artha aisA hai ki yadi pyAs lagI ho to vah dauDakar jAtA hai. lekin pyAs nahIn lagI ho to mAtra Upar-Uparase karatA hai. sachchI pyAs lage to-to bhItaramen prayAs kiye binA rahatA hI nahIn, to-to prayAs hotA hI hai, karatA hI hai, parantu pyAs nahIn lagI hai. pyAs lage to-to jahAn mile vahAn sunaneko jAye, bhItaramen prayAs kare, upadesh sune aur kyA kahate hain, gurudev evan bhagavAn kyA kahate hain, usakA vichAr kare. bhItaramen bhedagnAn karanekA prayAs kare. yadi sachchI lagI ho to.

main gnAyak hUn, main gnAyak hUn, yah merA svabhAv nahIn hai. aisI gnAyakako pragaT karanekI yadi pyAs lagI ho to vah kiye binA rahatA nahIn. koI bhI takalIph Aye to bhI use dUr karake, usako gauN karake vah karatA hai. parantu sachchI pyAs nahIn lagI hai. pyAs lage to hotA hI hai. koI kahatA hai na ki, kaise karanA? bahut karate hain phir bhI hotA nahIn. parantu bahut karatA hI nahIn hai. pyAs lagI ho to prayatna hotA hI hai, hue binA rahatA hI nahIn.

mumukShu- pyAs lagI hai, yah kaise patA chale?

samAdhAna- jisako pyAs lagI hai vah prayatna karatA hI hai. prayatna nahIn karatA

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hai to samajhanA ki pyAs nahIn lagI hai. prayatna jarUr karatA hai.

mumukShu- pIchhalI bAr garmImen Aye the, tab Apane kahA thA ki din-rAt aisI lagan laganI chAhiye ki na khAnA to Aye, na pInA to Aye, ek AtmAkI hI lagan laganI chAhiye. aisI lagan lagAte hain to bIchamen koI pratikUlatA A gayI, sharIr asvastha hai, tamAm bAten A jAtI hain, matalab laganamen bAdhA DAlate hain, to usamen kyA karanA chAhiye?

samAdhAna- laganamen bAdhA koI nahIn DAlatA. jisako lagan lagI ho usako khAnA nahIn ruchatA, pInA nahIn ruchatA, ghumanA-phiranA kuchh ruchatA hI nahIn. sonA nahIn ruchatA, kuchh ruchatA hI nahIn. sab karatA hai, lekin bhItaramen mujhe AtmA chAhiye, vah nahIn milatA hai. khAtA hai, pItA hai, sab karatA hai, parantu jahAn jAtA hai vahAn, mujhe AtmA chAhiye. antaramen josh aur khaTak aisI lagan lage to hue binA rahatA nahIn. use chain nahIn paDatA. koI bAdhA DAlatA hai to bhI vah puruShArtha karake bhItaramen bAharakI bAdhAen usamen avarodh nahIn karatI. antar puruShArtha kare usako bAharakA kArya avarodh karatA hI nahIn. bhItaramen hue binA, kiye binA rahatA nahIn, karatA hI hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! shubh pariNAmommen puNyakA bandha to hotA hI hai, sAthamen karmakA bhI bandha hotA hai?

samAdhAna- shubhakA bandha hotA hai to karmakA bandha hotA hI hai? upayog svarUpamen lIn ho jAye to abuddhipUrvak yA buddhipUrvak nahIn hotA hai. parantu abhI antaramen abuddhipUrvak hai tab tak bandha hotA hI hai aur shubhaupayog hove to bandha to hotA hI hai. heyabuddhi hai, bhedagnAn hai ki main bhinna hUn, gnAyakakI pariNati hai, parantu yadi upayog shubh hai to bandha hotA hai. bandha to hotA hai. jitanI bhedagnAnakI dhArA hai, gnAyakakI pariNati hai, utanA bandhase chhUT gayA hai. darshanamohakA bandha chhUT gayA aur chAritramohakA bandha hotA hai. darshanamohakI koI alpa prakRiti ho to alpa bandha hotA hai. parantu darshanamoh chhUT gayA hai aur chAritramohakA bandha hotA hai. shuddhaupayogamen nahIn (hotA).

... shubhaupayogako palaTanA chAhiye. usamen gnAn, darshan to sAthamen hote hI hain. upayog bAhar jAye, usamen jo shubh pariNAm yA ashubh pariNAm, jo shubhAshubh pariNAm hote hain, usake sAth gnAn to sAthamen hotA hai. isaliye gnAnakA upayog bhI shubhaupayog mishrit hai. gnAn bAhar jAye to gnAn shuddhAtmAmen lIn ho jAye, aisA to gnAn hai nahIn. gnAn shubhAshubhake sAth rahA hai. isaliye shubhAshubh upayogako palaT de. terA upayog svarUpamen- AtmAmen Ananda hai, usamen terA upayog lagA de. vAstavamen to gnAnakA upayog hai, parantu usake sAth shubhAshubh bhAv juDe hue hain.

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bAhar rAg hai, bAhar ekatvabuddhi hai, usake sAth gnAn juDA hai. bAharakA ras toD de aur antar Ananda hai, usakI or jA. tere gnAnakA upayog bAhar hai, use antaramen lA. shubhAshubh bhAvako bhinna kar aur tere AtmAke andar lA, aisA kahate hain.

mumukShu- kahIn achchhA na lage to upayog andaramen jAye?

samAdhAna- hAn, upayog andaramen jAye. andar jAtA hai vah gnAnakA upayog jAtA hai, parantu bAhar hai vah shubhAshubh mishrit hai. upayog bAhar hai (vah).

mumukShu- ... andaramen hI jAye?

samAdhAna- sachamuchamen kahIn ruche nahIn, barAbar yathArtharUpase achchhA nahIn lagatA ho to upayogako kahIn rahanekA sthAn nahIn rahatA. upayog kahAn TikatA hai? jahAn rAg ho vahAn Tike. rAg chhUT gayA, sachamuchamen use rAg hotA hI nahIn aur bAhar kahIn ruchatA hI nahIn, sachamuchamen nahIn ruchatA, phir upayog-gnAnakA upayog kahAn TikegA? pahale to shubhabhAv aur ashubhabhAvamen TikatA thA. bAhya gneyonke sAth rAg aur dveSh Adi hotA thA. ab, kahIn ruchatA nahIn hai to gnAnakA upayog kahAn jAyegA? svarUpakI or jAyegA.

vAstavamen use yadi ras TUT gayA ho, kahIn khaDe rahanA ruchatA na ho, ab kahAn jAnA? ab kisake Ashrayamen jAnA? yah Ashray to ThIk nahIn lagatA hai, shubhAshubh bhAvakA Ashray barAbar nahIn hai, vahAn khaDe rahanA ruchatA nahIn. kahAn jAnA? to vah svayam svayamke chaitanyakA Ashray khoj legA aur antaramen gaye binA rahegA nahIn. antarakA Ashray khoj lenA, yadi bAharamen Tik nahIn pAyA to. svabhAvakA Ashray khoj legA.

mumukShu- samayasAramen dRuShTAnta AtA hai na, samudramen jahAj par pakShI baiThA hai.

samAdhAna- samudramen jahAj par baiThA pakShI.

mumukShu- pakShI UD-UDakar kahAn jAyegA? vahIn vApas A jAyegA.

samAdhAna- vahIn A jAyegA, Ashray jahAjakA legA. vah dRuShTAnta AtA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! gnAnI chaubIson ghaNTe kyA karate rahate hain?

samAdhAna- chaubIson ghaNTe use gnAyakakA Ashray hai, gnAyakakI pariNati hai. gnAyakakI pariNatimen rahate hain aur upayog bhale bAhar jAtA ho. jaisI usakI dashA ho, usake anusAr upayog bAhar shubhameen usakI bhUmikA anusAr jAtA hai. gRuhasthAshramamen samyagdRuShTi ho to usake gRuhasthAshramake kArya aur shubhabhAvamen upayog jAtA ho, parantu usakI pariNati, usakI pariNati nirantar chaitanyake Ashrayamen hI hai. usane Ashray chaitanyakA hI liyA hai. dUsarA bAharakA Ashray use chhUT gayA hai. bhale hI sab AtA ho, parantu Ashray-chaitanyaghar

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mil gayA hai. apane gharamen khaDA huA apanA ghar nahIn chhoDatA. apane gharamen hI chaubIson ghaNTe khaDA rahatA hai. gharake bAhar usake kinAre sab log Aye, usake sAth usakA bolanA Adi vyavahAr kare (lekin) apanA ghar chhoDakar jAtA nahIn. gharake bAhar khaDe logonke sAth vyavahAr kare, parantu svayam apane gharamen gharamen khaDA hai. chaitanyakA Ashray chaubIson ghaNTe chhUTatA nahIn. upayog bAhar jAye aur dUsarA vyavahAr usakA dikhAI de, sab shubhAshubh bhAv, gRuhasthAshramamen sab vyavahAr dikhAI detA hai, parantu usakA Ashray chaitanyakA hai. dev-guru-shAstra Adimen dikhatA ho.

mumukShu- shuddhi baDhatI jAtI hai?

samAdhAna- antarakI shuddhi baDhatI jAtI hai. usakI bhUmikA anusAr usakI amuk shuddhi baDhatI jAtI hai. samyagdarshan hai, amuk prakArakA svarUpAcharaN chAritra hai. adhik shuddhi usakI bhUmikA palaT jAye to chAritrakI shuddhi visheSh hotI hai. parantu amuk bhUmikA hai to usakI shuddhi baDhatI hai, nirmalatA baDhatI jAtI hai. svayam apane Ashrayamen hI khaDA hai.

... apekShAse use bhedagnAn ho gayA, svarUpAcharaN chAritra hai, anantAnubandhI kaShAy TUT gayA hai, use usakI shuddhi baDhatI jAtI hai. usakA Ashray vah hai. upayog bAhar jAye to usakI Dor svarUpamen khInchatA rahatA hai. use chaitanyakA Ashray chaubIson ghaNTe hai, parantu upayog nij chaitanyako chhoDakar visheSh bAhar na jAtA (kyonki) DorI usake hAthamen hai. kShaN-kShaNamen Dor apanI or khInchatA rahatA hai. upayogakI DorIko jyAdA bAhar (nahIn jAne detA), svarUpakI maryAdA chhoDakar jyAdA bAhar nahIn jAne detA. DorI usake hAthamen hai. bArambAr upayog bAhar jAye to bhI apanI or khInchatA rahatA hai. svarUpakA ghar chhoDakar upayogako jyAdA bAhar nahIn jAne detA, upayogako bArambAr apanI or khInchatA hai.

patangakI Dor jaise hAthamen hai. bArambAr apanI or khInchatA hai. vah usakA kArya hai. bArambAr upayogakI Dorako kShaN-kShaNamen apanI or khInchatA hai. svarUpakA Ashray hai, dravya par dRuShTi aur gnAn hai. chAritramen lInatAmen bArambAr upayogakI Dorako apanI or khInchatA rahatA hai. kShaN-kShaNamen khInchatA hai. svarUpako chhoDakar upayogako visheSh bAhar nahIn jAne detA. usakI pariNatikA antar kArya kShaN-kShaNamen chalatA rahatA hai. usakA vah kArya chhUTatA hI nahIn.

svAnubhUtikI dashA ek alag hai, nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai. parantu bAhar khaDA- khaDA apanI Dorako svarUpakI or khInchatA rahatA hai. upayogakI DorI. upayog jyAdA bAhar nahIn jAne detA. bAhar dikhAI de sab kAyAmen, dev-guru-shAstrakI bhaktimen, unakI

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pUjAmen, shAstra shravaNamen, shAstra svAdhyAyamen sabamen dikhAI detA ho. chaturtha guNasthAnamen gRuhasthAshramake koI kAyAmen dikhAI detA ho, parantu DorI apane hAthamen hI hai. DorIko jyAdA bAhar (nahIn jAne detA). koI shubh kAyAmen yA ashubhamen, DorI apane hAthamen hai. jyAdA jAne nahIn detA.

mumukShu- gnAnIko rAg kAle nAg jaisA lagatA hai?

samAdhAna- kAle nAg jaisA... nij svarUpako chhoDakar bAhar jAnA, sachamuchamen yah vibhAv hamArA desh nahIn hai, ham yahAn kahAn A gaye? hamArA chaitanyadesh alag hI hai. yah to kAle nAg jaisA, sarpa jaisA hai. upayogakI DorI apane hAthamen rakhatA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! mumukShuke pAs koI DorI hai? gnAnIke pAs to..

samAdhAna- mumukShuke hAthamen kShaN-kShaNamen DorI to pratyakSha usake puruShArthakI hai. mumukShuke hAthamen ruchikI DorI hAthamen rakhanI. usakI ruchi manda nahIn paD jAye, dUsare kAyAmen mumukShukI bhUmikAse adhik koI kAyAmen, mumukShuko shobhA nahIn de aise kAyAmen jAnA nahIn. AtmAkI or AtmArthakA prayojan, AtmAkA mujhe mukhya prayojan hai. pratyek kAyAmen mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho, is prayojanake sAth dUsarA prayojan A nahIn jAye-koI laukikakA yA dUsarA koI yA mAnAdi, aisA koI bhI prayojan nahIn Aye. mujhe pratyek kAyAmen AtmAkA prayojan hai. aisI AtmAkI ruchi, AtmAkI ruchi usake hAthamen hai.

vah DorI to alag bAt hai, vah to DorI khInchatA hI rahatA hai. yahAn to ruchiko AtmAke prayojan sivAy, dUsare koI prayojanake kArya, usamen laukik kAryakA mujhe prayojan nahIn hai. ek AtmAkA prayojan hai. mujhase rahA nahIn jAtA, main puruShArtha nahIn kar pAtA hUn, parantu mujhe prayojan ek AtmAkA hai.

... vah aise rAh nahIn dekhatA ki jab milanevAlA hogA tab milegA. khAnA- pInA Adi nahIn milegA, aise rAh nahIn dekhatA. vah prayAs karane jAtA hai. vaise jise bhUkh lagI ho, vah puruShArtha kiye binA nahIn rahatA. jise AtmAkI lagI hai, AtmAke binA chain nahIn paDatA, usakI laganI lage vah puruShArtha kiye binA nahIn rahatA. AtmAke vichAr kare, AtmAkI pratIt karanekA prayatna kare, pahachAnanekA prayatna kare, AtmA mujhe kaise prApta ho, usakA bArambAr abhyAs kare, puruShArtha kare. kAlalabdhikI (rAh nahIn dekhatA).

main puruShArtha karun, mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho? aisI use laganI lage, vah rAh nahIn dekhatA. aur jo puruShArtha karatA hai, use kAlalabdhi pak jAtI hai. puruShArthake sAth kAlalabdhikA sambandha hai. jo puruShArthakI rAh dekhatA hai, use AtmAkI lagI hI nahIn.

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jise lagI nahIn use kAlalabdhi hai. lagI hI nahIn. AtmAkI lagI ho, vah rAh hI nahIn dekhatA.

...svayam hI hai, parantu svayamko kahAn svayamkI pratIt hai? svayam to hai. usakI laganI (nahIn hai). use AtmAkI anubhUti nahIn hai, AtmAkA vedan nahIn hai. isaliye mujhe AtmAkI svAnubhUti, AtmAkA vedan mujhe kaise ho? gnAyakakI pariNati mujhe kaise pragaT ho? hai to svayam, svayam svayamko pahachAnatA nahIn, bhUl gayA hai. isaliye jignAsA, laganI lage binA nahIn rahatI. svayam svayamko bhUl gayA hai.

mumukShu- bhagavAnake samavasaraNamen devon aur indron Ate hain, us vakta vahAnke jo prajAjan hote hain, to devon aur indronke sAth mitrAchArI hotI hai? aisA koI prasang banA thA? yA aisA kuchh ho sakatA hai? unake sAth mitrAchArI yA...

samAchAra- devonko kisIke Upar... use koI upakAr huA ho aur koI devako bhAv Ave to koI manuShyakA, rAjAkA puNya ho to use le jAte hain, meru parvat para. le jAye, parantu use mitrAchArI ho yA aisA koI devakA prasang bane, dev kuchh bAt kare, aisA ban sakatA hai. usake sAth mitrAchArI...

mumukShu- jo akRutrim jinAlay hain, vahAn darshan karanekA bhAv Ave aur bAt kare to le jAye?

samAdhAna- jise bahut bhAvanA ho, usakA aisA puNya ho to devako vichAr AtA hai ki ise le jAUn.

mumukShu- Apako athavA gurudevako aisA koI prasang banA thA?

samAdhAna- vah koI bAt nahIn. solahaven shAntinAth bhagavAn, unhen agale koI bhavamen dev le gaye hain. sab mandironke darshan karavAye hain. shAntinAth bhagavAnake jIvako...

mumukShu- solahaven bhavamen? samAdhAna- agale bhavamen. murgeke rUpamen parIkShA kI hai, vah sab prasang Ate hain. dev prasanna hokar, unhen vimAnamen biThAkar mandironke darshan-shAshvat mandironke darshan karane le jAtA hai. apane yahAn chitra hai. nandIshvaramen hai.