Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 86.

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samAdhAna- vItarAg dashAmen jahAn ek vikalpa nahIn hai, kisI bhI prakArakI ichchhA nahIn hai, kuchh nahIn hai. nirichchhAse dhvani mAtra chhUTatI hai. bhagavAnakI divyadhvani chhUTatI hai. jisamen bhagavAnako pUrNa gnAn-kevalagnAn pragaT huA, aisI dashA hai. usake sAth jo bhAShAkI pariNati hai, samasta lokAlokako darshAnevAlI, aisI bhagavAnakI divyadhvani lokAlokakA svarUp jisamen AtA hai, vah divyadhvani. bhagavAn ichchhApUrvak nahIn bolate hain. unhen koI vikalpa nahIn hai. sahaj dhvani chhUTatI hai. ekAkSharI dhvani nikalatI hai. usamen aise sab atishay hote hain ki usamen sab samajh jAte hain ki bhagavAn kyA kahate hain.

mumukShu- usamen gaNadhar kyA karate hain?

samAdhAna- kyA kare matalab?

mumukShu- bhagavAnakI divyadhvani chhUTI, ....

samAdhAna- jisakI yogyatA visheSh hotI hai, vah visheSh antarase gnAnako pragaT karate hain. visheSharUpase antarase rahasya grahaN karatA hai. dUsaronse adhik dhyAn karate hain. unakA kShayopashamagnAn aisA hotA hai ki sab grahaN kare. jahAn tak kShayopasham pahunche vahAn tak grahaN karate hain. bAkI bhagavAnakI dhvani to pUrNa hai. ve bhI kahate hain ki, bhagavAn! main ApakI dhvaniko pahunch nahIn pAtA. divyadhvanikA rahasya samajhanekI gaNadharamen yogyatA hotI hai. dUsare sab yathAshakti samajhate hain.

mumukShu- divyadhvani narakSharI rahatI hai?

samAdhAna- nirakSharI arthAt ek akShar hai, isaliye nirakSharI kahate hain. bhAv sab samajh jAte hain. usamen atishay hai.

mumukShu- gaNadhar bhagavAn bArah angakI rachanA karate hain, matalab?

samAdhAna- antaramen rachanA karate hain. bAharase likhate nahIn. antaramen aisI labdhi pragaT hotI hai. mati-shrutakI aise labdhi pragaT hotI hai. antaramen aisI rachanA karate hain, antarmuhUrtamen. shrutagnAnamen jitanA svarUp ho, us anusAr use shabdamen bhAv grahaN karake rachanA karate hain.


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mumukShu- .. gaNadharadevane bArah angakI rachanA kI aur phir us parase shAstrarachanA kI.

samAdhAna- antaramen rachanA karate hain. shAstrakI rachanA, us vakta to hAthase likhanA itanA nahIn thA. antaramense sab grahaN karate the.

mumukShu- bhagavAnake pAs jAnekI bahut ichchhA hai.

samAdhAna- ichchhA ho vah koI... andarakI bhAvanA koI alag hotI hai. bhagavAnake pAs jAnekI ichchhA ho. andar jise bhagavAn par bhAv ho, use jAnekI ichchhA to hotI hai. parantu aisI ichchhAse thoDe hI na jA sakate hain. antarakI bhAvanA ho, aisA yog ho to jA sakate hain. aisI hI thoDe jA sakate hain.

... koI shabdommen, koI likhAvaTamen Aye. alag prakArakA. vah to gnAn aisA hai. abhI to kahAn dikhAI detA hai. ek gurudevakI vANI yahAn thI ki jisamen atishayatAyukta vANI unakI dikhAI detI thI.

mumukShu- AgamakI rachanA kare usamen vibhinna arthamen ghaTit kar sakate hain. kisIko vANIkA yog us prakArakA nahIn ho, koI shAstrakI rachanA bhI kare. antarase svayam shAstra rachanA karate hain?

samAdhAna- aisA kuchh shAstramen nahIn AtA hai. manase AvRutti kar le, upadeshamen bole. bArah angakI rachanA likhI nahIn jAtI. usamen mUl sUtra hote hain. likhI nahIn jAtI. bAdamen lipibaddha kiyA hai. lipibaddha .. pahalekA kShayopasham kuchh alag thA. mUl prayojanabhUt likhA jAtA hai. sab likhAvaT shAstrommen hotI hai, usakA sAr likhanemen AtA hai. mUl to antar AdhArit hai na.

mumukShu- ... kShayopasham kaise hotA hai?

samAdhAna- kShayopashamakA prayojan nahIn hai, AtmAko grahaN karanekA prayojan hai. jyAdA kShayopasham ho to adhik lAbh hotA hai. jyAdA kShayopasham ho to hI mokSha hotA hai aur to hI muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai, aisA nahIn hai. kShayopashamakI ichchhA karaneke bajAy, mujhe AtmA kaise pragaT ho? mujhe bhedagnAn kaise ho? thoDA kShayopasham ho to bhI bhedagnAn ho sakatA hai, svAnubhUti ho sakatI hai. sabakA kShayopasham ek samAn nahIn hotA. muni hote hain, sabakA kShayopasham samAn nahIn hotA. kShayopasham to usakI amuk prakArakI yogyatA hotI hai to kShayopasham hotA hai. bAkI kShayopashamakI ichchhAse (kShayopasham nahIn hotA). kShayopashamakI ichchhA lAbhakartA nahIn hai. andar AtmAko pahachAnanA. prayojanabhUt AtmAko jAne to usamen sab A jAtA hai. jyAdA shAstronko jAne, jyAdA (shAstrakA) raTan kare, paDhe to use AtmAkI pahachAn hotI hai, aisA kuchh


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nahIn hai. vah to bIchamen jAnanA svayamko nimitta bane, sAdhan bane, svayamko visheSh jAnanekA kAraN ho, aisA bane. lekin vah visheSh ho to hI Age baDhA jAy, aisA nahIn hai. shivabhUti muni kam jAnate the, to bhI ve Age baDh gaye. bhedagnAn mUl prayojanabhUt jAne to AtmAkI pahachAn hotI hai, svAnubhUti hotI hai, bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. kShayopashamake sAth koI sambandha nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- .. yathArtha lagan lage to kar sakatA hai. aisI laganI honI chAhiye. ... siddhako bhI prabhu aur sansArIko prabhu. prabhu hai, sansAramen honeke bAvajUd dravyadRuShTise sab prabhu hai. kyonki usakA svabhAv jaisA hai vaisA shaktimen hai. shakti apekShAse prabhu hai. anAdi kAlase paribhramaN kiyA, bahut vibhAv hue to bhI andar dravyamen jo ananta shaktiyAn bharI hai, vah shaktiyAn vaisI hI hai. IshvaratA, jo prabhutA hai us prabhutAmen alpa bhI nyUnatA nahIn huyI hai athavA usakA-prabhutAkA ek ansh bhI nAsh nahIn huA hai. isaliye vah shakti apekShAse prabhu hai.

bhagavAn to dravyadRuShTi aur paryAy apekShAse, sarva prakArase prabhu hai. ve to sAkShAt prabhu hai. parantu dravyadRuShTise sab prabhu hain. gurudev kahate the, bhagavAn AtmA. tU svayam bhagavAn hai. shakti apekShAse vah bhagavAn hai. dravya par dRuShTi jAye ki main pUrNatAse bharA sarva shaktise bharapUr hUn. to us par dRuShTi kare to usamen paryAyen pragaT hotI hai. parantu svayammen kuchh svabhAv hI nahIn hai to svabhAvake Ashray binA paryAy kahAn-se pragaT hogI?

aisI shraddhA ho ki main prabhu hUn, shakti apekShAse mujhamen sab bharA hai. svabhAvake Ashray binA kuchh pragaT nahIn hotA. mAtra bAharakA karate rahanese pragaT nahIn hotA. andar svabhAvakA Ashray le, prabhukA Ashray le to prabhutA pragaT hotI hai. prabhukA Ashray le aur vibhAvase bhinna paDe, usakA bhedagnAn kare to usamense usakI prabhutA pragaT hotI hai.

gnAnAdi ananta guN bharapUr bhare hain. (jal) malin dikhe, parantu usakI svabhAvakI shItalatA jAtI nahIn. aise AtmA jo shAntasvabhAvI shItalasvarUp hai, usakI shItalatA jAtI nahIn. ananta-ananta shAnti aur ananta shItalatAse bharA hai, anAdiananta hai.

mumukShu- .. kAryarUp kaun pariNamatA hai?

samAdhAna- kAryarUp paryAy pariNat hotI hai. parantu abhedase kahen to dravya bhI kAryarUp bhI AyA, guN kAryarUp huA, paryAy kAryarUp huyI. vaise to paryAy kAryarUp hotI hai. dravyake Ashrayase kArya paryAyarUp hotA hai. paryAy kAryarUp hotI hai. dravya, guN, paryAy sab abhed le to dravya bhI kAryarUp huA aur guN bhI kAryarUp huA. shaktirUp thA vah pragaT hotA hai.

... kevalagnAnarUp pariNaman kiyA. AtmAne svAnubhUtirUp pariNaman kiyA. gnAn,


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Ananda svayam pragaTarUpase pariNaman kiyA, aisA bhI kahanemen AtA hai. parantu kArya paryAy karatI hai. lekin dravyake Ashrayase karatI hai.

mumukShu- samyagdarshan pragaT huA to shraddhAguNamen nirmal huA, bAkI guNommen ashuddha hai.

samAdhAna- sarva guNAnsh so samyagdarshana. shraddhAguN pragaT huA, samyagdarshan huA usake sAth gnAn, chAritra sab pragaT huA. gnAn samyakarUp pariNaman huA. chAritra, amuk anshamen chAritra-svarUpAcharaN chAritra huA. jo dishA par-or thI yA parasanmukh thA, dRuShTi parasanmukh thI vah svasanmukh huyI, vahAn pratyek guN jo yathAyogya nirmal honeyogya the vah sab nirmal ho gaye. ek or bilakul ashuddhatA aur ek or shuddhatA, aisA dravyamen khaNDa nahIn hotA. dravya to akhaNDa hai. isaliye ek samyagdarshan pragaT huA, usake sAth sabakI dishA palaT gayI to sab nirmal ho gaye. jo ashuddha the, sab nirmal ho gaye. kitan hI guN to malin hote hI nahIn. jo malin hote hain, vah sab Anshik nirmal hue. pUrNa nirmal to kevalagnAn hotA hai, tab hotA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! samyagdarshan hone par sab guN nirmal hue. to jaise dUsare sab guN shuddha hai, kuchh hI guN ashuddha the. to jab mithyAdarshan hotA hai, us samay sab guNonkA ashuddha pariNaman hai, aisA kah sakate hain?

samAdhAna- sab guN ashuddharUp nahIn pariNamate. kuchh guN shuddharUp rahate hain. lekin vah sab shaktimen hai. jaise ki astitva, vastutva aise kitane hI guN jo bhAShAmen nahIn Ate aise hain. aise sab guN ashuddha nahIn ho jAte. mithyAtvamen ekatvabuddhi hai to bhI kitane hI guN ashuddha nahIn hote. aur chAritra.. usake sivA kuchhaek vibhAvayukta hote hain aur kuchh guN nirmal rahate hain.

aisA kahanemen Aye ki svayam ashuddha ho gayA, dravya ashuddha ho gayA. aisA kahanemen Aye. sab ashuddha nahIn ho jAtA. shaktimen shuddha hai. kitane hI guN shuddha rahate hain. dRuShTi svarUpakI or gayI, samyagdarshanamen nirmalatA pragaT huyI, svAnubhUti huyI. jo Anshik malin the vah nirmal ho jAte hain. chalatA hai to ek kadam aise jAye aur ek kadam aise rahe, dishA badal gayI isaliye sab svarUp sanmukh ho jAte hain.

mumukShu- aisA AtA hai ki chaitanyamense pariNamit huyI bhAvanA agar na phale to chaudah brahmANDako shUnya honA paDe, usakA artha kyA? chaudah brahmANDako shUnya honA paDe?

samAdhAna- chaitanyamense pariNamit huyI bhAvanA, yadi aise chaitanyake Ashrayase bhAvanA huyI ho ki mujhe chaitanyakI hI pariNati pragaT karanI ho, aisI bhAvanA ho aur us bhAvanA anusAr yadi dravya pariName nahIn, yadi dravya bhAvanA anusAr pariName nahIn to


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dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. parantu dravyakA nAsh nahIn hotA. svayamkI ek bhAvanA yadi pUrNa na ho, chaitanyakI bhAvanA pUrNa na ho yadi aisA ho to brahmANDa shUnya ho jAye arthAt pratyek dravyakA nAsh ho jAye. usakI yathArtha bhAvanA anusAr chaitanyakA pariNaman nahIn ho to pratyek dravyakA nAsh ho jAye. kisIkI bhAvanA pUrNa na ho. ek dravyakI bhAvanA pUrNa na ho to kisIkI pUrNa na ho. us rUp dravya pariName nahIn, dravya koI alag prakArase pariName aur bhAvanA dUsare prakArase pariName (aisA nahIn hotA).

aisI yathArtha bhAvanA ho ki dravya pariName hI nahIn aur bhAvanA karatA rahe, aisA banatA hI nahIn. to brahmANDako shUnya honA paDe, pratyek dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. ekamen jo svabhAv hai, vaisA pratyekamen ho jAya. pratyek dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. isaliye aisA kuchh nahIn banatA. brahmANDake shUnya honemen dravyakA nAsh honA chAhiye. lekin dravyakA nAsh hotA nahIn. jis prakArakI dravyakI bhAvanA ho, vaisI dravyakI pariNati hue binA rahatI hI nahIn.

yadi antarakI gaharAImense bhAvanA pragaT huyI ki AtmAkA Ashray aur AtmAkI svAnubhUti... AtmAmen hI rahanA hai, bAhar jAnA hI nahIn hai. aisI antarangase gaharI bhAvanA pragaT hokar AtmAmen yadi vah pariNamit na ho to aisA banatA hI nahIn. AtmAkA pariNaman honA hI chAhiye. anyathA use dravya hI nahIn kahate. yadi vaise dravya apanI sAnukUl pariNatirUp pariNamit na ho to vah dravya hI kaisA? dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. us prakArase sab dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. isaliye brahmANDako shUnya honA paDe.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! usamen ananta tIrthankaronne kahI huyI bAt hai, aisA jor kaise AyA?

samAdhAna- aisI hI vastusthiti hai. dravya-guN-paryAyakI aisI vastusthiti hai. aisI vastusthiti hI hai. bhagavAnane kahI huyI bAt hai. vastukA svarUp jo dravya-guN-paryAyakA bhagavAnane kahA ki dravyAnusArI pariNati hotI hI hai. dravyAshrit jo pariNamit huyI, dravyake Ashrayamen jo gaharI bhAvanA ho, vaisI paryAy hotI hI hai. yah bhagavAnane kahA hai. dravya- guN-paryAy dravyake Ashrayase rahe hain. dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp bhagavAnane kahA hai. ananta bhagavAnonne kahA hai. ... dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp tIrthankaronne kahA hai ki chaitanyakI jaisI bhAvanA ho vaisI chaitanyakI pariNati hotI hI hai.

mumukShu- usamen hai ki chaitanyakI pariNatike sAth kudarat bandhI huyI hai.

samAdhAna- kudarat yAnI svayam. chaitanyakI bhAvanAke sAth kudahat bandhI huyI hai. jaisI usakI bhAvanA ho, us anusAr dravya pariName, guN pariName, usI prakAr sab paryAyen pariNamati hain. kudarat bandhI hai. usakI bhAvanA jo andar shuddhAtmAkI bhAvanA ho


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us anusAr (pariNati hotI hai). antarase bhAvanA...

bAharamen bhI usake anukUl sanyog.. usake sAth kudarat bandhI huyI hai. use bAhya sAdhan bhI us prakArake pariNamate hain. sab us prakArase pariNamate hain. kudarat bandhI huyI hai. aur yathArtha bhAvanA ho usake anukUl jo usakI sAdhak dashA hai, us sAdhak dashAke anukUl bAhya nimitta bhI vaise hote hain. usakA upAdAn us prakArakA, bAharamen nimitta bhI vaise hote hain aur dravyakA pariNaman bhI us prakArakA hotA hai. kudarat bandhI huyI hai.

andar yathArtha bhAvanA ho aur bAharake aise nimitta, sAdhan na mile aisA bhI nahIn banatA. aise yathAyogya sAdhan milate hain, aise sAdhak mile, aise guru mile, aise bhagavAn mile. aise sab nimitta bhI (prApta hote hain). bhAvanAke sAth kudarat bandhI huyI hai. parantu vah bhAvanA antarakI honI chAhiye. usakI bhAvanAke sAth jo shubhabhAv hote hain, vah bhI aise hote hain ki bAhya nimitta bhI vaise hote hain. andar dravya bhI us prakArakA pariNaman kare.

mumukShu- antarakI bhAvanA to shubhabhAvarUp hai. samyagdarshan pragaT hone pUrva jo bhAvanA hai vah to shubhabhAvarUp hai. phir bhI vah AtmAkA Ashray lekar hI rahatI hai..

samAdhAna- shubh bhAvanA shubhabhAv hai, parantu antaramen us shubhabhAvake pIchhe usakA Ashray jo hai... use jAnA hai AtmAkI or, AtmAkI or jAnA hai vah balapUrvak jAnA hai. use shubhabhAv nahIn chAhiye. shubhAshubh bhAvase bhinna aisA AtmA chAhiye. usake pIchhe rahA jo usakI pariNatikA jor hai, usakI pariNatikA jor AtmAkI or hai. shubhabhAv to sAthamen rahA hai, parantu usakA pUrA jor AtmAkI or-chaitanyakI or jAtA hai. isaliye chaitanyakI pariNati shubhabhAvako gauN karake bhI chaitanyakI pariNati use pragaT hue binA nahIn rahatI. shubh bhAvanA hai. bAhya nimitta kudaratI pariNamate hain. antaramen AtmA pariNamit hue binA nahIn rahatA. usakA jor AtmAkI or jAtA hai. shubh bhAvanA hai sAthamen, shubhabhAv mishrit hai, parantu usakA jor AtmAkI or hai.

mumukShu- shubhabhAvake sAth usakI gnAn pariNati bhI.. samAdhAna- gnAn pariNati aisI joradAr hai ki vah svayamkA Ashray lenA chAhatI hai. joradAr Ashray lenA chAhatI hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amRut vANIno jay ho!
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