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mumukShu- paryAyake ShaTakArak svatantra hai?
samAdhAna- dravyadRuShTise svatantra hai. paryAy apekShAse paryAyake svatantra aur dravya apekShAse dravyake svatantra. bAkI paryAy dravyake Ashrayase hotI hai. dravyake Ashray binA paryAy nahIn hotI hai. apekShAse use gauN karake svatantra kahanemen AtA hai. dravyakI apekShAse use svatantra kahakar, paryAyako gauN karake use svatantra kahate hain. vah dravyakI paryAy hai. dravyako chhoDakar paryAy kahIn alag nahIn laTakatI hai. paryAy bhinna, ekadam sarva prakArase bhinna ho to vah dUsarA ek dravya ho jAya.
mumukShu- ..nahIn jAne huekA shraddhAn kharagoshake sIng samAn hai. muniko AgamagnAn ho aur ...
samAdhAna- kyA? jAnA hai, phir bhI shraddhAn nahIn hotA? jAnA huA vah aisA jAnA huA kahanemen AtA hai. antarase jAnA ho to use shraddhA huye binA nahIn rahatI. jAnA huA yAnI.. kyA kahA? AgamagnAn..?
mumukShu- AgamagnAn ho aur tattvArtha shraddhAn na ho.
samAdhAna- AgamagnAn to kiyA, lekin yadi antaramen shraddhA nahIn kI. arthAt usane shraddhA to aise kI hai, parantu antarase nahIn kI hai. isaliye vah jAnA hai, vah aisA jAnA hai ki antarakI pariNatiko milAkar nahIn jAnA hai. kShayopashamase jAnA hai. parantu antarakI pariNatiko milAkar, antarakI pariNatike sAth jo jAnanA chAhiye, vaise nahIn jAnA hai, isaliye usake sAth tattvashraddhAn nahIn hai. parantu jisane sachchA jAnA ho, usake sAth tattvArtha shraddhAn hue binA nahIn rahatA. aur tattvArtha shraddhAn sachchA ho, usake sAth sachchA gnAn hotA hai.
... dukh yAnI bahut AkulatA kare, aisA nahIn hai. andarase svayamkI pariNati hI aisI hotI hai ki kahIn TikatI nahIn. antaramen kuchh dUsarA chAhiye. kahIn shAnti nahIn lagatI. kRutrimatAse dukh hai, dukh hai, use dukh nahIn kahate. ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai, use kahAnse dikhe? ras lagA hai, anukUlatAmen bah jAtA hai. jo AtmAko pahachAnatA hai, use anukUlatAmen bhI dukh lagatA hai. anukUlatA bhI AtmAko sukh denevAlI nahIn
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hai. vah bhI AkUlatArUp hai. vah apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. vah upAdhi hai, vibhAvakI upAdhi hai, anukUlatA hai vaha. devalokakA sukh bhI upAdhi hai. vah AtmAko sukharUp nahIn hai.
samyagdRuShTi devalokamen ho to use antar AtmAmen sukh lagatA hai, bAhar kahIn nahIn lagatA. anukUlatAke ganj ho to bhI samyagdRuShTiko kahIn sukh nahIn lagatA. anukUlatAmen khInchAtA nahIn. aur pratikUlatAmen ekadam use khed ho jAye aisA bhI nahIn hai. anukUlatAmen khInchAtA nahIn aur pratikUlatAmen shAnti rakhatA hai. pratikUlatAmen AkulatA nahIn karate, usamen bhI shAnti rakhatA hai. anukUlatAmen bah nahIn jAte.
agnAnadashAmen usane bhrAntike kAraN isamen sukh hai, aisA mAnA hai. bah jAtA hai. kisIko vairAgya AyA ho to aisA lage ki yah anukUlatA AtmAkA svarUp nahIn hai. parantu antarase jo laganA chAhiye, vah alag bAt hai. .. bhI AkulatA hai, anukUlatA bhI upAdhi hai. .. rAj ho to bhI vah upAdhi, AkulatA hai, AtmAkA svarUp nahIn hai. bAharase jitanA bhI AyA ho, vah AtmAkA nahIn hai.
svayam AtmAkA svabhAv honese antarase jo sukh Aye, vah sachchA sukh hai. svayam Aye vaha. ... AyA nahIn hai, lekin vichAr kare to bAharamen kahIn sukh nahIn hai. usamen sukh nahIn hai aur svabhAvakI ruchi kare, prayatna kare to sukh pragaT hotA hai. vichAr kare ki sab vibhAv dukhamay hai. apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. svabhAvake Ashrayase sukh, parake Ashrayase dukh hai.
mumukShu- Asravose nivRutti kyon nahIn hotI?
samAdhAna- AtmAko pahachAne to Asravonse nivRutti ho. antaramen AtmAko-gnAyakako pahachAne, bhedagnAnakI pariNati ho, andar vignAnaghan svayamkA svabhAv hai. us vignAnaghan svabhAvamen pariNati ho, usamen jamatI jAy to Asravase nivRutti ho. antaramen bhedagnAn ho to Asravase nivRutti ho. antaramen vignAnaghan svabhAvako pahachAne binA Asravase nivRutti nahIn hotI. andar bhedagnAnakI pariNati vignAnaghan dashA hue binA Asravase nivRutti nahIn hotI.
svabhAvakI pariNati pragaT ho, svabhAvakI kriyA pragaT ho to Asravase nivRutti ho. gnAyakako pahachAne. gnAyakakI shraddhA, gnAyakakA gnAn aur gnAyakamen amuk prakArase ramaNatA. visheSh ramaNatA to munidashAmen hotI hai. vignAnaghan svabhAv baDhatA jAye, vaise Asravonse nivRutti hotI hai.
mumukShu- .. vairAgI pariNati?
samAdhAna- vairAgI pariNati jo antaramen hotI hai, vah dukharUp pariNati... parantu
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vah vApas muDatA hai. svabhAvakI or use ruchi ho to vah sachchA vairAgya hai. dukharUp pariNati nahIn hai, parantu sachchA vairAgya hai vah dukharUp pariNati nahIn hai. dukhagarbhit vairAgya ho to vah dukharUp pariNati hai. sachchA vairAgya ho to vah dukharUp pariNati nahIn hai. vignAnaghan svabhAv baDhatA jAy, usamen vibhAvase nivRutti aur vibhAvase virakti hotI hai aur svabhAvakI or pariNati hotI hai. isaliye vah dukharUp nahIn hai. virakti dashA, gnAyakakI pariNati visheSh pragaT hotI jAtI hai.
mumukShu- shAntirUp hai?
samAdhAna- shAntirUp hai. vibhAvakI pravRuttise nivRutti ho aur svabhAvakI pariNati hotI hai. virakta dashA. sachchA vairAgya use kahate hain ki antaramen gnAyakakI pariNati ho aur vibhAvase virakti ho. shAntimay dashA hai. dukhagarbhit vairAgya ho vah alag bAt hai.
.. gnAn aur vairAgya sAthamen rahate hain. shAstrako jAnatA hai, sab karatA hai, lekin bhItaramen yadi vairAgya nahIn huA to kis kAmakA? akelA shuShkagnAn kyA karatA hai? bhItaramen virakti, vibhAvase virakti honI chAhiye. aur sAthamen vairAgya hove. sansAramen achchhA nahIn lage. svabhAvamen sabakuchh hai. aisI ruchi, nirNay aisA honA chAhiye. mAtra shAstra paDh le, parantu bhItaramen main AtmAkA kalyAN karun, aisA yadi sAthamen vairAgya nahIn ho to akelA gnAn kuchh nahIn kar sakatA.
koI akelA vairAgya kare ki sansAramen dukh hai, aisA hai, aisA karake vairAgya karatA hai, sab chhoD detA hai, tyAg karatA hai, vrat karatA hai, sab karatA hai. parantu jAnA kahAn? kis mArga par jAnA hai? yah gnAn nahIn hove to kis kAmakA? jIvane aisA ananta bAr kiyA. sab dukh lagA, sansAramen dukh hai. sab chhoDakar muni huA, aisA huA. parantu gnAn nahIn hai, AtmAkA gnAn nahIn huA. vah kis kAmakA? donon sAthamen hone chAhiye.
akelA gnAn aur akelA vairAgya karanese lAbh nahIn hotA hai. gnAnake sAth vairAgya honA chAhiye aur vairAgyake sAth gnAn honA chAhiye. gnAn aisA prayojanabhUt to honA chAhiye ki kis mArga par jAnA hai? kahAn jAnA hai? AtmAkA kyA svabhAv hai? AtmAmen sukh hai, AtmAmen Ananda hai. aisA gnAn honA chAhiye. yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai. merA svabhAv gnAyak svabhAv hai. aisA gnAn sAthamen honA chAhiye. AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAyakA (gnAn honA chAhiye). AtmAkA dravya kyA, guN kyA, paryAy kyA. sabakA gnAn honA chAhiye.
akelA tyAg kar detA hai, chhoD detA hai. AtA hai na? "yam niyam sanyam Ap kiyo, tyAg vairAgya athAg liyo', sab kiyA. parantu yadi AtmagnAn nahIn huA to
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sab shubhabhAv huA, puNyabandha huA. naumvI graiveyak gayA, lekin AtmAkA gnAn nahIn huA to bhavakA abhAv nahIn huA. shAstra paDh letA hai, parantu bhItaramen vairAgya nahIn huA ki yah achchhA nahIn hai, yah paradravya hai. svadravya koI apUrva alaukik chIj hai, isakI mahimA nahIn kI, vibhAvase virakti-vairAgya nahIn AyA. akelA shAstrakA svAdhyAy kiyA, parantu bhItaramen kuchh nahIn kiyA to bhI lAbh nahIn huA.
mumukShu- mAtAjI! dravyalingI to bahut gnAn aur vairAgya karatA hai. phir bhI siddhi nahIn hotI hai?
samAdhAna- gnAn aur vairAgya donon karatA hai, parantu gnAn aisA kiyA ki AtmAkA gnAn nahIn kiyA. vairAgya bhI aisA bhItaramense nahIn kiyA. bAharase sab chhoD diyA. sah chhoDakar chalA gayA. aisI kriyA kI, bahut kI. jaisA shAstramen AtA hai, aisI bAharase bahut kriyA kI. gnAn bhI bahut huA. bhItaramense gyArah angakA gnAn ho gayA. lekin bhItaramen Atmatattvako nahIn pahachAnA.
main AtmA kaun hUn? aur merA kyA svabhAv hai? main koI adabhut chaitanya dravya hUn. aise dravyako pahachAnA nahIn. usakI mahimA nahIn AyI. use vairAgya nahIn huA, bhItaramense nahIn huA. gnAn bhI huA, vairAgya bhI huA, sab Uparase. gyArah ang to bhItaramense kShayopasham ho gayA. gyArah angakA (gnAn huA), parantu mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako nahIn pIchhAnA. gnAn aur vairAgya donon sAthamen hai. Uparase sAthamen hue. bhItaramen jo mUl tattva hai, us tattvako nahIn pIchhAnA. sab bolatA hai, vichAr karatA hai, dravya-guN-paryAy aisA hai, aisA hai, charchA karatA hai, parantu bhItaramen mUl tattva, chaitanyatattva bhItaramense nahIn pIchhAnA. aisA gnAn kuchh kAmakA nahIn huA.
vairAgya bhI bhItaramense (nahIn huA). bAharase chhoD diyA, lekin bhItaramen us shubhabhAvamen ruchi rah gayI. aisI ruchi rah gayI gaharAImen ki use khyAlamen nahIn AtA. ashubhabhAvase to vairAgya huA, lekin shubhabhAvamen ruchi rah gayI. shubhAshubh bhAvase bhI bhinna hUn. aisA vairAgya bhItaramense nahIn huA. bas, akelA nivRuttimay chaitanyatattva nirvikalpa tattvamen hI sukh hai, bAhar kahIn bhI sukh nahIn hai, aisA nirNay aur aisI ruchi nahIn huyI. shubhabhAvamen ruchi rah gayI.
mumukShu- vrat, niyam dhAraN kiye use samay ruchi ThIk hai?
samAdhAna- vrat, niyam dhAraN kiye lekin bhItaramen ruchi shubhabhAvamen rah gayI. shubhabhAvamen ruchi rah gayI. shubhabhAv bhI AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. shubhabhAvase devalok hotA hai, parantu bhavakA abhAv nahIn hotA hai. shubhabhAv bIchamen hotA hai, lekin vah AtmAkA svabhAv to nahIn hai. vah bhI vibhAv hai. pravRuttimay hai, AkulatAmay hai,
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dukharUp hai. bhItaramen vichAr kare to sab dukhamay hai. usase bhI bhinna main AtmA hUn. aisI ruchi nahIn huyI.
.. AtmAkI ruchi nahIn huyI. shubhabhAv, thoDA shubhabhAv to honA chAhiye na. shubhabhAvamen Agrah rah gayA. shubhabhAv hotA hai, jabatak AtmAko nahIn pahachAne, AtmAmen lInatA na hove, tab shubhabhAv AtA hai. parantu usamen ruchi aisI rah gayI ki shubhabhAv honA hI chAhiye. aisA Agrah, aisI buddhi bhItaramen ho gayI. usakI ruchi ho gayI. siddha bhagavAnamen shubhabhAv nahIn hai. siddha bhagavAn jaisA AtmAkA svabhAv hai. (shubh aur ashubh) dononse bhinna AtmAkA svabhAv hai. dononse bhinna AtmAkA svabhAv hai. muni huA to bhI shubhabhAvamen ruchi rah gayI. devalokamen gayA to bhI bhavakA abhAv nahIn huA, devalok huA.
mumukShu- mAtAjI! anubhav honese pahale mumukShu sachchA gnAn aur vairAgya kar sakatA hai? anubhav honese pahale mumukShu sachchA gnAn aur vairAgya kar sakatA hai?
samAdhAna- pahale sachchA gnAn, vairAgya kar sakatA hai. parantu yathArthatA, vAstavik yathArthatA to use samyaggnAn ho tab yathArthatA kah sakate hain. lekin us yathArthatAkI bhUmikA mumukShutAmen kar sakatA hai. yathArthatA pragaT ho, usase pahale yathArthatAkI bhUmikA, yathArthatAke mArga par jA sakatA hai.
use antaramen ruchi, bhale andarase gaharI pratIti AtmAkA Ashray yathArtha samyagdarshanamen jo grahaN kiyA vaisI nahIn hai, to bhI usake mArga par vah jA sakatA hai. mArgAnusArI ho sakatA hai. yah shubhAshubh bhAv merA svarUp nahIn hai. merA svarUp ek chaitanyatattva koI apUrva mahimAvant tattva hai. usakI mahimA Aye, usakI apUrvatA lage, main koI adabhut tattva hUn, usakI mahimA lage. yah shubhAshubh donon bhAv AkulatAmay hain, yah dukhamay hain. aise vichAr, aisI pratIti bhI kar sakatA hai.
gnAn-vairAgya yathArtha kar sakatA hai ki jisake pIchhe use avashya samyagdarshan ho, aisI bhUmikAko vah prApta kar sakatA hai. pAnIkI shItalatA dUrase dikhatI hai. pAnIke pAs pahunchA nahIn hai. usakI shItalatA,... usake amuk lakShaNase nakkI kare ki yah gnAyak svabhAv, jAnanevAlA svabhAv koI adabhut tattva hai, vah koI alag hI hai. usakA nirNay (karane tak) abhI pahunch nahIn pAyA hai. to bhI vah kar sakatA hai. amuk prakArase nirNay kar sakatA hai. is kAraN, us sambandhit gnAn, us prakArakA vairAgya, virakti, us prakArakI mahimA karake vah mArgakA anusaraN kar sakatA hai.
... kArya tak pahunchanese pahale usake jaisI bhUmikAmen sachche mArga par jA sakatA hai. koI apUrva ruchi ho, apUrva deshanAlabdhi antaramense ho ki mArga to yahI hai. ye
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shubhAshubh bhAvase bhinna ek AtmA vah koI alag tattva hai. aur vahI sarvasva hai. bAharamen kahIn bhI sarvasvapanA nahIn hai. kisI bhI prakArakI visheShatA use nahIn lagatI, AtmAke sivA. ek AtmA hI sarvasva hai. dUsarA kuchh visheSh (nahIn hai). jagatakI koI vastu use alaukik nahIn lagatI, sab laukik lagatI hai. ek alaukik tattva AtmA hai. aisI apUrva ruchi kar sakatA hai. aur is kAraNase vah sachche mArga par jA sakatA hai.