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samAdhAna- is dhanaterasamen sab bAharakA karate hain, vAstavamen to antaramen dhanateras hai. AtmAkA svarUp dhan hai, use pragaT karanA vah vAstavamen dhanateras hai. mahAvIr bhagavAn mokSha padhAre, isaliye yah dhanateras Adi divas Ate hain. antaramen svarUpadhanako pragaT karanA vah dhanateras hai. antar svarUpamen, antaramen AtmAmen sab khajAnA bharA hai. AtmAko pahachAnakar, bhedagnAn karake us par dRuShTi karake, usakI mahimA lAkar andar svarUpakA dhan pragaT karanA, yah dhanateras hai.

vah nahIn ho tabatak shubhabhAvamen dev-guru-shAstra, bhagavAnane jo prApta kiyA, tIrthankar bhagavAn mahAvIr bhagavAnane jo pragaT kiyA, use svayam smaraNamen lAkar us prakArakI shubhabhAvanA, bhakti mahimA bAharase bhagavAnakI kare. antaramen AtmAkA svarUp-dhan kaise pragaT ho? yah karanA hai. jinendra dev, guru, shAstrakI mahimA lAve. bhagavAnane sab pragaT kiyA, guru sAdhanA karate hain, shAstramen sab varNan AtA hai. shubhabhAvamen vah aur antaramen shuddhAtmAmen dhan bharA hai, use pahachAne. usakI shraddhA, usakA gnAn, usamen lInatA kare.

mumukShu- ...

samAdhAna- bhagavAnakA nirvAN kalyANakakA mahotsav karate hain, usamen Age-pIchheke din mangal din hain. usamen dhanateras kahate hain. laukikamen dhanaterasa. gautamasvAmIko kevalagnAn pragaT huA, bhagavAn mokSha (padhAre). isaliye Age-pIchheke dinonko mangalarUp kahate hain. shAstramen to yah ek nirvAN kalyANakakA din AtA hai. usake Age-pIchhe ke dinonko mangalarUp kahate hain.

mumukShu- savikalpAtmakamen pahale ruchimen svayamkA gnAyak AtmA AnA chAhiye aur use parakI ruchi chhUT jAnI chAhiye. usake bAd use dRuShTikA jor Ave. usakA artha yah huA ki jabatak vikalpAtmakamen use merA AtmA hI mujhe sukharUp hai, dUsarA kuchh bhI yAnI ... vikAr bhI sukharUp nahIn hai. aisA jabatak abhiprAyamen nirNay na ho, tabatak dRuShTikA jor arthAt dravya sanmukh hokar yah gnAyak hai vahI main hUn, aisA sachchA jor use A nahIn sakatA. aisA ApakA kahanA thA?

samAdhAna- jor nahIn AtA. svayammen sukh hai aisA nirNay na ho, apanI or

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ruchi na Ave to apanI or jor nahIn AtA. dravya par dRuShTikA shraddhAkA jor nahIn AtA. kyonki meremen hI sukh hai, vahI prayojanabhUt hai, vahI jarUratakA hai, utanI ruchi antaramense nahIn ho to shraddhAkA jor nahIn AtA.

mumukShu- is prakArase vichAr karake ek bAr nahIn parantu .. bhAvamen baiThatA hai ki sachamuchamen sukh mujhamen hai aur isamen sukh nahIn hai. is prakAr gnAyak hai vahI main hUn, yAnI ki Ashray karanekA jo... yah gnAyak hI main hUn aur yah sab mujhase par hai. is prakAr kahaneke bAd kyA karanA bAkI rah jAtA hai ki jisamen abhI jis prakArakA pariNAm-phal AnA chAhiye, vah nahIn AtA hai?

samAdhAna- nakkI karake gnAyakakA Ashray nahIn letA hai. gnAyakakA jo Ashray lenA chAhiye vah Ashray letA nahIn. buddhise vichAr kiyA, vichAr-vichAramen rah gayA aur shraddhA kI. parantu gnAyakakA jo Ashray lenA chAhiye vah Ashray letA nahIn. main yah gnAyak hI hUn.

kShaN-kShaNamen use jo laganA chAhiye, kShaN-kShaNamen bhAsanA chAhiye ki main to gnAyak hI hUn. gnAyakakA Ashray letA nahIn hai isaliye Age nahIn jAtA. gnAyakakA Ashray nahIn letA hai. Ashray-dRuShTi par or hai. nakkI to kiyA lekin Ashray gnAyakakA lenA chAhiye, gnAyakakA Ashray nahIn letA hai.

mumukShu- gnAyakakA Ashray yAnI Apako kyA kahanA hai?

samAdhAna- yah gnAyak hai, yah gnAyak hai vahI main hUn, aisA kShaN-kShaNamen antaramen gnAyak hI usakI dRuShTimen bhAsit honA chAhiye. kShaN-kShaNamen gnAyak dRuShTimen bhAsit nahIn hotA hai. par bhAsatA, vibhAv bhAsatA hai, usakA vedan hotA hai. lekin gnAyakake antaramen jAya. main to gnAyak hI hUn, aisA use antaramen lagatA nahIn. usake Ashrayamen ek gnAyak nahIn AtA hai. koI bhI kArya karate hue, main to bhinna hI hUn, vah jo use kShaN- kShaNamen laganA chAhiye, vah lagatA nahIn hai. usakI laganI us prakArakI (lagI nahIn hai). gnAyakakA Ashray nahIn letA hai. vichAr kiyA, nirNay kiyA kiyah gnAnasvabhAv hI main hUn, lekin gnAnarUp rahanekA svayam prayatna nahIn karatA hai. gnAn so main, aisA nakkI kiyA, parantu vah gnAtArUp kahAn rahatA hai? ekatvabuddhi hotI hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! jab gnAnamen nakkI hotA hai, jis prakArase bhinnatA hai, paradravyakI, vibhAvakI aur ek samayakI paryAy aur gnAyakabhAv, usakI jaisI bhinna hai vaisA vichAr kiyA, aur yah vichAr karane par aisA huA ki, sachamuch merA paramArtha svarUp to gnAyak hI hai. achchhA, dRuShTimen arthAt ruchi apekShAse bhI vichAr kiyA ki gnAnamen to pahalU honese gauN-mukhya hote hain. lekin dRuShTimen to vichAr kiyA ki ek gnAyakabhAvake

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sivA kahIn bhI thoDA bhI sukh nahIn hai. aur aise ... karatA nahIn.

samAdhAna- nakkI kiyA ki usamen sukh nahIn hai, vah nakkI vichAramen rahA, nakkI kiyA ki sukh nahIn hai. parantu vah sukh nahIn hai to usakA kArya, gnAyakako grahaN karake gnAyakakA Ashray jo use antaramen AnA chAhiye, gnAyakakA Ashray nahIn huA hai. gnAnasvabhAv hUn, aisA nirNay kiyA, lekin gnAnasvabhAvarUp honekA prayatna nahIn karatA hai.

mumukShu- Apase yah jAnanA hai ki gnAyak honekA prayatna athavA gnAyak hotA nahIn hai, to gnAyak kaise honA?

samAdhAna- usakA Ashray nahIn letA hai. use kShaN-kShaNamen jo vichAr, vikalpa Ave us vikalpamay hI svayam ho jAtA hai, us vakta bhinna kahAn rahatA hai? jo- jo vikalpa Ave, vichAr Ave, us vikalpamay ekamek ho jAtA hai. nakkI kiyA ki main to yah jAnanevAlA gnAnasvabhAv hUn. koI bhI vikalpa, vichAr Ave usamen ekamek hotA hai. jo-jo vichAr Ate hain us vakta vichAr karake dekhe to ekamek ho jAtA hai, thoDA bhI andar bhinna nahIn rahatA hai. bhinna hUn, aisA nakkI kiyA to usakA ekatvabuddhikA ras kam huA, sab huA, mandatA huyI, lekin vah bhinna nahIn rahatA hai. bhinna rahanekA bhedagnAnakA prayatna nahIn karatA hai. nakkI kiyA ki main bhinna hUn. nakkI to kiyA, bhinna hUn. lekin bhinna rahanekA prayatna nahIn karatA hai.

mumukShu- dUsarA prayatna to mAtAjI! ekAgratA ho aur vikalpa TUTe to nirvikalpa anubhav ho, to-to aisA lage ki gnAnarUp rahA. jabatak rAg TUTe nahIn tabatak to shAstra kahatA hai aur Ap kahoge ki ekatAbuddhi hai aur rAgako tU terA mAnatA hai. abhyAs chAhe jitanA karate ho, bhinna rahanekA prayatna karate ho, to Apako bIchamen ek bAt karatA hUn ki, aisA sAdhan hai ki...

samAdhAna- bhinna hokar vikalpa TUTe vah nirvikalpa hotA hai, vah to hotA hai, lekin usake pahale usakA bhedagnAnakA abhyAs nahIn hai. bhedagnAnakA abhyAsa. vah vichAr kare, sharIr jab kAm karatA ho, kAm karatA ho, bolatA ho, khAtA ho, pItA ho us vakta use khyAl rahatA hai ki main bhinna hUn? pratikShaN khyAl rahatA hai? bhedagnAnakA abhyAs kahAn karatA hai? yah sharIr bhinna, yah bhinna, vikalpa bhinna, rAg bhinna, usase main bhinna hUn, aisA use bAr-bAr usakI pariNatimen AtA hai? usakA abhyAs to pahale hotA hai na? ekadam nirvikalpa ho vah kvachit kisIko hotA hai. ekadam bhedagnAn hotA hai aur nirvikalpa ho jAtA hai. pahale to usakA abhyAs hotA hai.

mumukShu- Apako to aisA kahanA hai ki itanA nakkI karaneke bAd bArambAr bhed abhyAs honA chAhiye?

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samAdhAna- bhedakA abhyAs honA chAhiye. pahale use sahaj nahIn hotA hai. sahaj bhale nahIn ho, lekin usake vichAramen us prakArase AtA hai. sahaj bhedagnAnakI dhArA ho nirvikalpa honeke bAd, vah alag bAt hai, use to sahaj hai. pratyek kAryamen sahaj hI hai. usake abhyAsamen chaubIs ghaNTemen jo-jo kArya aur jo-jo vichAr chalate hon, usake andar svayamko kitanI bAr bhinnatA bhAsyamAn hotI hai?

mumukShu- bhAsyamAnamen to mAtAjI, aisA hai ki vikalpapUrvak to vichAramen lete hain ki main gnAyak hUn, yah mujhase bhinna hai. rAg ho to bhI mujhase bhinna hai. paradravyakI koI kriyA hotI ho to vah bhI main karatA nahIn hUn.

samAdhAna- lekin jab vah kisI kAryamen tanmay huA ho us vakta use bhinnatA rahatI hai yA nahIn?

mumukShu- vah nahIn rahatA.

samAdhAna- jis samay tanmay hokar koI vichArommen ulajhA ho, us vakta use bhinnatA rahatI hai yA nahIn? to bhedagnAnake abhyAsamen usakI kShati hai.

mumukShu- utanA bhed abhyAs honA chAhiye.

samAdhAna- hAn, bhedagnAnakA abhyAs honA chAhiye. bAr-bAr nakkI kare ki main bhinna hI hUn. vichAronse nakkI karatA rahe, lekin usake kAyAmen, usakI pariNatimen vah kitanI bAr bhinna rah sakatA hai?

mumukShu- vikalpapUrvak bhI nirantar bhinna nahIn rahatA hai, bAt sachchI hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, bhinna kahAn rah sakatA hai? abhI to yah bhed abhyAsakI bAt hai. sahaj to bAdamen hotA hai. bAdamen kyA karanA hai? parantu yah bhedagnAnakA abhyAs karanA hai. bhinna nahIn rah sakatA hai. sAdhanAkI paryAy to aise hI pragaT hotI hai ki main chaitanya hUn, aisI dRuShTikA jor aur Ashray kab ho? ki bhed-bhinna paDanekA prayatna abhyAs ho to usakA Ashray balavAnarUpase hotA hai, nahIn to balavAnarUpase vikalpakA Ashray rah jAtA hai. vikalpase nakkI karatA hai. bhale jorase nakkI kare ki main bhinna hI hUn. main bhinna hI hUn, bhinna hI hUn yah yathArtha hai. to use itanA andar lage ki main bhinna hI hUn. bhinnarUp rahatA to nahIn hai. utanI andar ruchikI tIvratA honI chAhiye ki mujhe nishchit hai ki main bhinna hUn. lekin bhinna rah nahIn sakatA hai. utanA prayAs nahIn hai.

nirNay kiyA ki is gAmvameen jAnese nukasAn hai. aisA nakkI kiyA. isamen sukhakA kAraN nahIn hai, is or jAnese hI sukh hai. aisA nakkI kiyA to phir jo sukhakA rAstA hai, sukhakA dhAm hai vahAn jAnekA prayatna-prayAs karatA nahIn hai, us or kadam

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baDhAtA nahIn. vichAr karake khaDe-khaDe nakkI karatA hai lekin us orakA prayAs kitanA hotA hai? nukasAn hai, aisA nakkI kiyA to kyon jAtA hai? utanI usakI ruchikI kShati hai. us or use dukh lage to bhI, us or dukhakA gAmv-nagar hai to bhI us or jAtA hai. aur is or kitanI bAr prayAs karatA hai?

shraddhAkI balavattaratA ho to use kAryAnvit karanA chAhiye. vichArase bhale shraddhA karatA ho. pahale aise vichArapUrvak shraddhA hue binA rahatI nahIn. lekin usamen aisA hai ki dhIre-dhIre ho, utAvalIse ho yA dhIre-dhIre ho parantu mArga grahaN kiyA hai, jis mArgako vichAr karake grahaN kiyA use to barAbar TikAkar us or jAnekA prayatna karanA. to use Age jAnekA avakAsh hai. terI shraddhA tU barAbar rakhanA. shAstramen AtA hai, ho sake to dhyAnamay pratikramaN karanA, nahIn to shraddhA kartavya hai. shraddhA yAnI usamen sab le lenA. vah to samyagdarshanapUrvak hai, phir bhI shraddhA to barAbar rakhanA. prayatna terA kam ho, dhIre ho, tvarAse ho, koI bAr thak jA to bhI terI vikalpapUrvakakI shraddhAko barAbar dRuDh rakhanA. to tujhe Age baDhanekA avakAsh hai.

yadi tU thak jA aur Age nahIn baDh sake to thakakar tU dUsare rAste par mat jAnA. use to barAbar grahaN karake rakhanA. gurudevane jo mArga batAyA aur tune vichArase antarase nakkI kiyA, svabhAvakA milAn karake nakkI kiyA to use to tU barAbar grahaN karake rakhanA. use to tU sambhAlakar hI rakhanA. usase bhI Age baDhe vah alag bAt hai, lekin jahAn khaDA hai utanA to sambhAlakar rakhanA. yah dhan sambhAlanekA kahate hain na? tere gahane, dhan Adi (sambhAlakar rakhanA).

vaise panchamakAlamen gurudev mile aur yah jo mArga batAyA, vah panchamakAlamen milanA mushkil thA. vah to gurudevane batAyA aur tUne vichArase nakkI kiyA to use barAbar sambhAlakar rakhanA. utanI dRuDhatA tU barAbar rakhanA. idhar-Udhar mArga par kahIn mat jAnA.

mumukShu- gnAyakako svayamko gnAyakapane ... nahIn aur savikalpa dashAmen bhI use us prakArakA prayatna karanA chAhiye ki mAno rAg huA to rAgase bhinna jAnanevAlA hai, vah jAnanevAlA bhinna rahatA hai, aisA use abhyAs karanA chAhiye. to Apake kahaneke bAd is prakAr vichAramen liyA, lekin abhI bhI bhAvamen barAbar baiThatA nahIn. Ap do-chAr dRuShTAnta dekar is bAtako adhik spaShTa kIjiye.

samAdhAna- amuk vichArase, amuk vichArase evan yuktise kahanemen Aye. bAkI karanA to svayamko hI paDatA hai. kaise svayam bhinna paDatA hai, vah to jis prakArakI svayamkI bhUmikA ho aur jis prakArakA svayamkA prayatna ho, us prakArase svayam hI bhinna paDatA hai. yah to ek vichAr evan yuktise kahanemen AtA hai ki, aisA vichAr

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kare. bAkI use sahaj honA chAhiye. vichAr kyA karanA aur kaise karanA, vah svayam kahAn aTakatA hai, aur svayam kyA karatA hai, vah svayamko hI grahaN karanA paDatA hai.

vichAr kare ki yah sharIr to jaD hai, kuchh jAnatA nahIn. vah to jaD hai, usamen jo pudagalake....

mumukShu- bahut sundar kahI. kudaratI baDA din hai aur baDI bAt A gayI.

samAdhAna- ... abhyAs karanA hai. utanA svayam kar sakatA hai. dravya par dRuShTi karake bhedagnAnakA abhyAs (kare), AtmAkA Ashray lenA hai. usakA AtmAkA Ashray grahaN kare to usamen vikalpa chhUTanekA prasang AtA hai. bAkI ekadam kisIko antarmuhUrtamen hotA hai vah alag bAt hai.

mumukShu- ... samAdhAna- hAn, yah shraddhA to barAbar rakhanA.