Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 107.

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જીવ ઔર અજીવ સમ્બન્ધી જો ગલતિયાઁ હૈં વહ ક્ષયોપશમકે કારણ યા અજ્ઞાનકે કારણ?    0   Play
jīv aur ajīv sambandhī jo galatiyān̐ hain vah kṣhayopashamake kāraṇ yā agnānake kāraṇ?    0   Play

(નિર્વિકલ્પ) ઉપયોગમાં ધ્રુવ જણાય કે પર્યાય પણ જણાય ?    2:05   Play
(nirvikalpa) upayogamān dhruv jaṇāy ke paryāy paṇ jaṇāy ?    2:05   Play

પોતાનું નામ નિર્વિકલ્પપણે જાણે છે તેમ શ્રદ્ધાન નથી, પણ શ્રદ્ધામાં દેવ-ગુરુ-શાસ્ત્રનો અને પોતાનો આશ્રય હોય છે તે વિષે    4:50   Play
potānun nām nirvikalpapaṇe jāṇe chhe tem shraddhān nathī, paṇ shraddhāmān dev-guru-shāstrano ane potāno āshray hoy chhe te viṣhe    4:50   Play

મતિજ્ઞાન–શ્રુતજ્ઞાન સમ્બન્ધી.....તેમાં જાણવામાં શું ફરક પડે છે?    9:45   Play
matignān–shrutagnān sambandhī.....temān jāṇavāmān shun pharak paḍe chhe?    9:45   Play

આત્માને ગ્રહણ કરે તે પહેલાંના વિકલ્પ કયા પ્રકારના હોય?    12:15   Play
ātmāne grahaṇ kare te pahelānnā vikalpa kayā prakāranā hoy?    12:15   Play

પરથી લક્ષ ફેરવી સ્વ તરફ લક્ષ કરવુંં તેવી તાકાત શું અમારામાં છે? તે તો ક્રમબદ્ધપર્યાય જે આવવાની હોય...    13:00   Play
parathī lakṣha pheravī sva taraph lakṣha karavunn tevī tākāt shun amārāmān chhe? te to kramabaddhaparyāy je āvavānī hoy...    13:00   Play

વૈરાગ્ય સંબંધિત અને માંગલિક    12:15   Play
vairāgya sambandhit ane māṅgalik    12:15   Play

samādhānaḥ- ... ajīvakā gnān to andar jāne ki main gnāyak hūn̐, jānanevālā hūn̐, aise bhinna rahe tab gnān hotā hai. bhinna nahīn rahatā ho to bhrānti hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- hān̐, bhinna nahīn rahatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, to bhrānti bhūl hotī hai. bhinna nahīn rahatā.

mumukṣhuḥ- kṣhayopashamake kāraṇase yā agnānake kāraṇase?

samādhānaḥ- agnānake kāraṇase. donon ekatvabuddhi ho rahī hai, bhrānti ho rahī hai, bhūl ho rahī hai. gnāyak hūn̐, jānanevālā hūn̐, yah sharīr men nahīn hū̃n. bhītaramen aisā jānanevālekā abhyās kare to usase bhinna rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āpakā pravachan..

samādhānaḥ- pravachan nahīn hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- pariṇāmamen to rahatā nahīn hai, sunā isaliye..

samādhānaḥ- apanī ruchi nahīn hai, utanī lagan nahīn hai, utanā puruṣhārtha nahīn hai to kahān̐-se rahe? utanā jānanevālekā abhyās karanā chāhiye. ruchi nahīn hai, lagan nahīn hai to kahān̐se rahegā? ekatvabuddhi, anādikī ekatvabuddhi hai usamen chalā jātā hai. puruṣhārtha karanā chāhiye. bārambār puruṣhārtha karanā chāhiye, main jānanevālā gnāyak hū̃n. sharīr main nahīn hū̃n. main to shāshvat ātmā hūn̐, main mahimāvant hūn̐, aisā abhyās karanā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- ..

samādhānaḥ- mātra bolanese yā mātra raṭan karanese nahīn hotā. kalyāṇ to bhītaramen ūtāre tab kalyāṇ hotā hai. ātmāko nahīn pahachānā. ātmāko pīchhāne tab kalyāṇ hotā hai. mātra shubhabhāv kare to puṇyabandha hotā hai. apanā kalyāṇ nahīn hotā hai. kalyāṇ to apane shuddhātmāko pīchhāne tab hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- upayogamen akelā dhruv hī gnāt hotā hai yā paryāy aur dhruv donon sāthamen gnāt hote hain? donoṅkā vyāpār sāthamen hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- upayogamen na? dhruv aur paryāy donon gnāt hote haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- ekasāth?

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samādhānaḥ- ekasāth gnāt hote haĩn. nirvikalpatāke kālamen ekasāth gnāt hote haĩn. dhruv dhruvarūp, paryāy paryāyarūp jaisā hai vaisā gnāt hotā hai. use vikalpa karake kram nahīn paḍatā. sahaj gnāt hotā hai. upayog hai vah sab jānatā hai. svayam dravyako jāne, guṇ, paryāy sab jānatā hai, upayogamen sab gnāt hotā hai. upayog bāhar ho to vikalpātmak hai, andar hai vah nirvikalparūp hai. use sab gnāt hotā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi ek dhruv par hai aur upayogamen sab gnāt hotā hai.

anubhūtiko jānatā hai, dhruvako jānatā hai, sab jānatā hai. ānandako jānatā hai, sab jānatā hai. na jāne to vah gnān kaisā? gnān sab jānatā hai. gnānakā upayog svakī or gayā to svako jānatā hai. svaparaprakāshak gnān hai. us vakta upayog bāhar nahīn hai ki usakā par or upayog ho. parantu svake andar hī svayam apane guṇ, paryāy, dravya ādi sabako jānatā hai.

paryāy kahīn chalī nahīn jātī. paryāyakā pariṇaman hotā hai. dhrav aur paryāy sab sāthamen hotā hai. vedan hai vah paryāy hai, paryāy kahīn chalī nahīn jātī. aur dhruv bhī hai. vikalpātmakamen jānā hai isaliye vah sahajarūp ho jātā hai. dr̥uṣhṭikā jor jaisā thā vaisā sahaj rah jātā hai. gnānakā upayog jaisā hai vaisā sahaj jānatā hai. kevalagnānamen sahaj shāshvat vītarāgadashā rah jātī hai. chhadmasthako upayog palaṭ jātā hai. vītarāg dashā pūrṇa nahīn huyī hai, isaliye upayog palaṭ jātā hai. upayogakī sthiti antarmuhūrtakī hai. antarmuhūrtamen palaṭ jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. usamen āpane aisā kahā ki apanā nām jaise jānatā hai vaise? to āpane kahā, nahīn, vaise nahī̃n. parantu ... dev-gurukī pratīti aur āshrayamen kyā pharka paḍatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- nām to usane mātra nām jānā ki is sharīrakā nām yah hai. usamen nāmakā āshray kahān̐ hai? vah āshrayarūp nahīn hai. āpane aisā kahā thā na ki nām bhūl gayā. aisā kuchh prashna thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- jaise apanā nām raṭanā nahīn paḍatā, lekin use sahajarūpase āshray, nirvikalpa āshray hai ki main hīrābhāī hū̃n. is tarah hai ki nahīn? tab āpane kahā thā ki nahīn, aise nahī̃n.

samādhānaḥ- nām hai vah koī vastu nahīn hai. usakā āshray thoḍe hī hai. yah to ek āshray hai. andar gnāyakakā āshray liyā, vah alag hai. aur dev-guru- shāstrakā shubhabhāvamen bhale hī svayanne āshray liyā hai. usakā āshray hai ki yah guru andar sādhanā karate haĩn. ātmavastu batāte haĩn. gurukā āshray jo andaramen āyā ki

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guru jo batāte hain, usakā hī āshray sachchā hai. dev-gurukā. shubhabhāvamen (aisā hotā hai ki), isī āshrayase hī mujhe gnāyakakā āshray milegā aisā hai. nimittamen aisā aur upādānamen svayam hai. nām hai vah koī āshray nahīn hai. āshray to ek vastukā hotā hai. āshray koī nāmakā nahīn hotā hai. nām sahaj rah jātā hai, vah alag bāt hai. ek sharīrakā nām (hai), yah main hūn̐ aise. vah koī āshrayarūp vastu nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āshrayakī apekṣhāse bhed karo to...

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, vah to āshray liyā hai. gurukā-devakā āshray liyā. lekin vah bhī abhī to bāhyakā huā. antaramen kharā āshray gnāyakakā hī hai. gnāyakakā āshray liyā ki main yah gnāyak hū̃n. phir use raṭanā nahīn paḍatā. use sahaj āshray ā jātā hai. svayam hī hai, anya nahīn hai. sahaj āshray rah jātā hai. aur nirvikalpa dashāmen to use upayogātmak hai. vah to use vedanamen ā gayā hai. usamen āshray hai, isamen vedanamen ā gayā hai. gnāyakakī pariṇati vedanakī hai vah shraddhārūp gnāyakakī pariṇatikā vedan alag hai aur vah upayogātmak hai. (pariṇatimen) labdhātmak hai, yah upayogātmak hai. labdhātmak arthāt shaktirūp nahīn hai. gnāyakakī pariṇatirūp hai. pariṇatirūp hai to vah pariṇati aisī hai ki upayog bāhar jāy to bhī vah parimati ṭikī rahatī hai. aur andar nirvikalpa dashā to upayogātmak huyī hai. pariṇati aur upayog donon sāth ho jāte haĩn. pariṇati hai vah pariṇati vaisī hī rah jātī hai aur upayogātmak hotā hai. pariṇati aur upayog donon ho jāte haĩn.

savikalpa dashāmen usakī jo sahaj dashā vartatī hai, puruṣhārthakī dhārā, vah sādhakadashā usakā kāraṇ hone par nirvikalpa dashākā kārya ātā hai. bāharase chhūṭakar antaramen chalā jātā hai. isaliye visheṣh kārya use vah hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- nirvikalpa ...men pariṇatike sāth upayog sāth ākar milatā hai, isaliye upayogarūp ānanda ho jātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- ek vishiṣhṭa pariṇati hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bāhyamen āpane jo bhed kiyā, dev-gurukā ālamban-āshray aur nāmamen āshray nahīn hai. yah pakaḍamen nahīn āyā.

samādhānaḥ- nāmakā āshray kahān̐ svayanne liyā hai? vah to ek nām hai ki ye hīrābhāī, nām hai. nām aisā rah gayā, sahaj rah gayā. nāmake sāth koī prayojan nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- yahān̐ to nimittarūpase bhī prayojan hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, prayojan hai. aur gnāyakake āshrayamen prayojan hai. nimittamen dev-

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gurukā prayojan hai. usamen to sharīr par dhyān hai ki aisā sharīr hai so main hūn̐, aisā ek andar kalpanāse mān liyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ghoṇṭan hote-hote aisā dr̥uḍh ho gayā utanā hī, usamen āshray nahīn hai. yahān̐ dev-gurumen nimittarūpase āshray hai.

samādhānaḥ- āshray hai, āshray hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jānaneke prakāramen kyā antar hai?

samādhānaḥ- matignānakā upayog sāmānya hai. isaliye matignān visheṣh bhed nahīn karatā. sāmānyarūpase vastu (jānatā hai). darshanaupayog to alag hai, vah to sattāmātra grahaṇ karatā hai. matimen visheṣh tarka karake nahīn jānatā. mati sāmānyarūpase dravya-guṇ- paryāy jānatā hai. aur shrut hai vah visheṣh-visheṣh jānatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sāmānya jānatā hai usamen dravya-guṇ-paryāy sab ā jātā hai? matimen?

samādhānaḥ- sab ā jātā hai, sab ā jātā hai. lekin vah sāmānya jānatā hai, visheṣh shrut jānatā hai. pratyabhignān hotā hai vah matignān hai. avāy, ihā hotā hai usamen matignān hai. vah sab matignānakā upayog sāmānya hai aur shrutagnānamen visheṣhatā hotī hai. isaliye use anubhūtimen bhī sāmānyatayā vastuko guṇ evan paryāy sāmānyarūpase (jānatā hai). parantu usako visheṣh gaharāīse jāne to shrutagnān jānatā hai. lekin usamen aisā koī bhed nahīn hai. vikalpa chhūṭ gaye haĩn. mati aur shrut donon sāthamen kām kar rahe haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānake sāth matignān.. anubhūtike kālamen?

samādhānaḥ- matipūrvak shrutagnān hai. lekin matignān aur shrutagnān donon sāthamen hai. matipūrvaka. matikā upayog honeke bād shrutakā hotā hai. lekin vah sab abuddhipūrvak hotā hai. antarmuhūrtamen mati hotā hai, bādamen shrut hotā hai, aisā usakā kram paḍatā hai. lekin vah use buddhimen nahīn hai, vikalpamen nahīn hai. ... palaṭatā hai, vah abuddhipūrvak hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. vikalpa kaunase hote hain?

samādhānaḥ- vah koī nishchit nahīn hai. us sambandhit hote haĩn. dravyako grahaṇ kiyā hai, dravya orake, guṇ orake, paryāy orake vah sab us sambandhit vikalpa hote haĩn. lekin kaunase vikalpa hote hain, vah nishchit nahīn hai. dravyakā āshray liyā, dravya orake vikalpa hain, guṇ-paryāy sab prakārake vikalpa hote hai. lekin vah to vikalpa chhūṭanekā kāl hai. isaliye vikalpase nahīn hotā hai. vikalpa chhūṭakar (svānubhav) hotā hai.

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mumukṣhuḥ- lakṣhya badalanā? par ūpar lakṣhya hai, use palaṭakar svamen lakṣhya karanā. to lakṣhya badalanekī tākat hai apanemen? vah to kramabaddhamen jo paryāy ānevālī hai vahī ānevālī hai, to paryāyamen lakṣhya badalanekī tākat hai?

samādhānaḥ- tākat hai. puruṣhārthase hotā hai. akelā kramabaddha nahīn hai. lakṣhya badalanā. dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi karanī. gnānakā upayog bāhar jātā hai use apanī or lānā. vah sab puruṣhārthase hotā hai. binā puruṣhārthake kramabaddha hotā nahī̃n. puruṣhārthake sāth kramabaddha hotā hai. aise hī binā puruṣhārthake kramabaddha (ho to) anādikā vibhāv chalā ā rahā hai. agnān, bhrānti, rāg, dveṣh anādi sansār paḍā hī hai. vah anādikā kramabaddha chalā ā rahā hai. ātmākī orakā kramabaddha samyagdarshanamen puruṣhārthapūrvak hotā hai. binā puruṣhārtha nahīn hotā, apaneāp nahīn hotā.

main ātmākī or dr̥uṣhṭi karun̐, main gnāyak hūn̐, yah vibhāv merā svabhāv nahīn hai. andarase yah sab niḥsār hai. sārabhūt ātmā hai. aisā vichār kare, svayam dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi kare to hotā hai. to usakā kramabaddha muktikī orakā hotā hai. puruṣhārtha kare to. usake sab kāraṇ de. puruṣhārtha, kāl, kṣhayopasham, svabhāv ādi sab usake kāraṇ ikaṭṭhe ho to hotā hai. ek kramabaddhase nahīn hotā. puruṣhārtha ādi sab usake kāraṇ haĩn. aise hī baiṭhā rahe ki kramabaddhamen hogā, kramabaddha hogā vaisā hogā, apane puruṣhārtha kyā karanā? aise nahīn hotā. binā puruṣhārthake nahīn hotā.

samādhānaḥ- ... andar vichār karanā. yah sharīr bhinna, ātmā bhinna, vikalpa hote hain vah apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. usakā abhyās karate rahanā. shānti rakhanī. main jānanevālā gnāyak hū̃n. mujhamen ānanda ādi sabakuchh hai. aisā antaramense, raṭan mātra nahīn, antaramense usakā abhyās karate rahanā. ākulatān nahīn karanī, shānti rakhanī. bhedagnān karanekā prayatna karanā. sharīr bhinna, ātmā bhinna, vikalpa merā svabhāv nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āj subahakī bhaktimen vahī āyā. bahut sundar..

samādhānaḥ- bhedagnān karanā, bas, yah ek hī upāy hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- tadartha antarake bhāvamen gaharāīmen ūtare to hotā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hā̃n. ... manuṣhyabhav mile, usamen jitanā āyuṣhya ho utanā mile. gurudevakā upadesh sunā hai, yah jānakar shānti rakhanī. kudaratake āge kisīkā upāy nahīn hai. sansār aisā hī hai. chāhe jitanā ho.. aur aisā ho jāy isaliye ho, lekin ek shāntike sivā koī upāy nahīn hai. manuṣhyabhav mile, usamen gurudevakā upadesh milā, vah upadesh grahaṇ karane jaisā hai.

sharīr bhinna hai aur ātmā bhinna hai. ātmā shāshvat hai. ātmāko grahaṇ karanā

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vahī shreyabhūt hai aur vahī sharaṇabhūt hai. anya koī sharaṇ nahīn hai. ... pūrā hotā hai, to phir yah to manuṣhya janma hai. chhoṭī umramen aisā ho jāy isaliye lage, lekin kudaratake āge koī upāy nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ..

samādhānaḥ- shāntike sivā anya koī upāy nahīn hai. ahemadābād rahate hain?

mumukṣhuḥ- hān̐, ahemadābād rahate haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- janma-maraṇamen kitanoṅko chhoḍakar svayam āyā, svayaṅko chhoḍakar dūsare chale jāte haĩn. aisā sansāramen banatā rahatā hai. shānti rakhaneke sivā koī upāy nahīn hai. sansār aisā hai. āyuṣhya kṣhaṇik pānīke bulabule jaisā hai. osake bindukī bhānti, jaise bindu kṣhaṇamātramen vilīn ho jātā hai. aisā yah sansār hai. bijalīke chamakāre jaisā āyuṣhya hai. usamen ātmākā kar lene jaisā hai. vismr̥ut kiye binā chhūṭakārā nahīn hai.

(ananta) janma-maraṇ kiye haĩn. is jagatake pudagal paramāṇu grahaṇ kiye hain aur tyāg kiyā hai. ākāshake pradeshamen ananta bār janma-maraṇ kiye. aise ananta kālachakra. ananta avasarpiṇī, utsarpiṇī kālamen ananta bār janma-maraṇ kiye haĩn. jīvane ananta kālamen ananta mātāoṅko rulāyā hai (ki jisase) samudra bhar jāya. itane janma-maraṇ kiye haĩn. svayaṅko chhoḍakar dūsare chale jāte hain aur anya svayaṅko chhoḍakar jāte haĩn. aisā yah sansār hai. ... chhoḍakar jāy aur putra mātāko chhoḍakar chalā jāy, aisā yah sansār hai. sansāramen shānti rakhaneke sivā dūsarā koī upāy nahīn hai. sansār to aisā hī hai. kudaratake āge koī upāy nahīn hai. āyuṣhyake āge koī upāy nahīn hai. āyuṣhya pūrṇa hotā hai.

.. usakā mantra hai. ... pañch parameṣhṭhī. yah pañch parameṣhṭhī navakār mantra hai. utanā to samajhanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- ...

samādhānaḥ- shubhabhāvanā hotī hai, achchhī bhāvanā ho. pañch parameṣhṭhī par bhāv ho to hotā hai.

... koī upāy nahīn hai. kisīkā upāy kām nahīn ātā. chāhe jaise ḍākṭar āye, to bhī jo bananevālā hai, usamen kisīkā kām nahīn ātā.

mumukṣhuḥ- māṅgalika. chattārī maṅgalan, arihantā maṅgalan, sāhū maṅgalan, kevalipaṇatto dhammo maṅgalan. chattārī loguttamā, arihantā loguttamā, siddhā loguttamā, sāhū loguttamā, kevalipaṇatto dhammo loguttamā.

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chattārī sharaṇan pavajjāmi, arihantā sharaṇan pavajjāmi, siddhā sharaṇan pavajjāmi, kevalī paṇatto dhammo sharaṇan pavajjāmi.

chār sharaṇ, chār maṅgal, chār uttam kare je, bhavasāgarathī tare te sakaḷ karmano āṇe anta. mokṣha taṇā sukh le anant, bhāv dharīne je guṇ gāye, te jīv tarīne muktie jāya. sansāramānhī sharaṇ chār, avar sharaṇ nahīn koī. je nar-nārī ādare tene akṣhay avichal pad hoya. aṅgūṭhe amr̥ut varase labdhi taṇā bhaṇḍāra. guru gautamane samarīe to sadāy manavāñchhit phal dātā.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

 

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