Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 117.

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આત્મામાં વિરોધી ધર્મો છે તેમાં વસ્તુભેદ નથી પણ લક્ષણભેદ છે તે વિષે....    0   Play
ātmāmān virodhī dharmo chhe temān vastubhed nathī paṇ lakṣhaṇabhed chhe te viṣhe....    0   Play

નિર્વિકલ્પ અનુભૂતિ સમયે જ્ઞાનગુણમાં આત્માના દ્રવ્ય- ગુણ-પર્યાય નિર્વિકલ્પપણે જાણવામાં આવે છે કે બધું એકમેક જાણવામાં આવે છે?    6:20   Play
nirvikalpa anubhūti samaye gnānaguṇamān ātmānā dravya- guṇ-paryāy nirvikalpapaṇe jāṇavāmān āve chhe ke badhun ekamek jāṇavāmān āve chhe?    6:20   Play

પૂજ્ય બહેનશ્રી ! સમ્યગ્દ્રષ્ટિ જીવને જ્ઞાયકનો દોર હાથમાં આવી ગયો હોય છે (૧) ઉપયોગ બહારમાં જાય તો શું સમ્યક્ત્વને હાનિ થાય છે? (૨) ઉપયોગ બહારમાં હોય ત્યારે નિરંતર શું શાંતિ વેદાતી હોય છે? (૩) ઉપયોગ બહાર હોય ત્યારે શું તેને ખેદ વર્તતો હોય છે? આ બધી અટપટી વાતો કૃપા કરી સમજાવશો.    11:00   Play
pūjya bahenashrī ! samyagdraṣhṭi jīvane gnāyakano dor hāthamān āvī gayo hoy chhe (1) upayog bahāramān jāy to shun samyaktvane hāni thāy chhe? (2) upayog bahāramān hoy tyāre nirantar shun shānti vedātī hoy chhe? (3) upayog bahār hoy tyāre shun tene khed vartato hoy chhe? ā badhī aṭapaṭī vāto kr̥upā karī samajāvasho.    11:00   Play

samādhānaḥ- ... sab apekṣhāen̐ alag ātī hai. āchāryadev kahate hain na? yah chaitanyakā vaibhav kaisā adabhut āshcharya utpanna kare aisā hai. ek orase dekhen to ek dikhe, anek dikhe, nitya dikhe, anitya dikhe, aise virodhī dharma dikhe. to bhī vah ātmāmen aisā virodh nahīn hai. vah vastubhed nahīn hai, vah lakṣhaṇabhed hai. vah aise virodhī dharma nahīn hai ki ātmāmen sāth nahīn rah sake.

jaise prakāsh aur andhakār sāthamen nahīn rah sakate. jaḍ aur chaitanya virodhī dharma hai. aise virodhī dharma nahīn hai. ātmākā gnānalakṣhaṇ hai vah chetanamay hai. chetanake chetanamay guṇ haĩn. usakā nitya svabhāv aur anitya svabhāv hai. nitya to dravya apekṣhāse. aur paryāy apekṣhāse kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen palaṭatā hai, parantu dravyakā nāsh nahīn hotā. aisā anitya svabhāv nahīn hai ki dravyakā nāsh ho jāya. to donommen virūddhatā āye. dravyakā nāsh nahīn hotā, parantu paryāy palaṭatī hai. svayam svayaṅkī apekṣhāse sat hai. parakī apekṣhāse asat hai. apanī apekṣhāse asat nahīn hai. aise virodhī dharma aise nahīn hai ki use aisā virodh āve ki paraspar sāthamen rah nahīn sake. aisā nahīn hai. parantu aise anek dharma ātmāmen rahe hain ki vah dharma aise achintya aur āshcharyakārī hai. ātmā svayam ek, usamen anek dharma. vah svayam ananta dharmakī mūrti hai. ek honepar bhī ananta aur anantamen eka. nitya aur usake sāth anitya. aise anek jātake dharmase (sampanna) ātmā aisī anekāntamay mūrti hai ki jo āshcharyakārī hai.

kitane hī dharma to vachanamen āte nahī̃n. vachanase agochar (hain). kuchh vachanamen āte hain, to bhī un sabakā virodh nahīn hai. un sabakā virodh miṭākar samyagdr̥uṣhṭi sādhanā sādhate haĩn. vah aisā virodh nahīn hai ki sādhanāmen aḍachan āve yā jisamen sādhan kar nahīn sake. ek guṇ ho vahān̐ paryāy nahīn ho sakatī, dravya ho vahān̐ paryāy nahīn ho sakatī, aisā virodh nahīn hai. paryāy ansh hai aur ātmā anshī usakī apekṣhāen̐ alag haĩn. donoṅkī apekṣhāen̐ bhinna-bhinna samajhe to usakā virodh miṭ jātā hai. isaliye vah virodh miṭākar samyagdr̥uṣhṭi sādhanā sādhate haĩn. aur vah usakī sādhanā avirūddhapane sādhate haĩn. usamen virodh nahīn ātā hai.

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anekāntamay mūrti hai. svānubhūtimen use anekāntamay mūrti usakī svānubhūtimen ātī hai. lekin kitane hī dharma vachanamen nahīn āte, kitane hī vachanase agochar hai ki gnāyakako, dravyako dr̥uṣhṭimen liyā to usake guṇabhed, paryāyabhed sab gnān jānatā hai. usakā virodh miṭākar sādhanā sādhate haĩn. svayam dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi karake, dravya apekṣhāse pūrṇa hai, parantu paryāyamen abhī adhurāpan hai, use gnān jānatā hai. isaliye chāritrakī sādhanā bākī rahatī hai. ataḥ chāritrakī sādhanā bārambār sādhakar antaramen līn hokar, vibhāvako ṭālatā huā svarūpako sādhato huā āge baḍhatā hai. virodh miṭ jātā hai. anekānta gnān aisā hai ki virodh miṭ jātā hai.

bhagavānakī vāṇī aisī syādvād vāṇī ki jo virodh miṭānevālī hai. aisī sarasvatī devī bhagavānakī vāṇī, jisase virodh miṭ jātā hai. bhagavānakī vāṇīmen chaudah brahmāṇḍakā svarūp ātā hai. yadi vah yathārtha samajhe aur apane svabhāvase samajhe. gnān bhī vaisā hai aur vāṇī bhī vaisī hai. usase virodh miṭ jātā hai. yadi yathārtha samajhe to.

vah ātā hai na? bhūtārtha svabhāvako apane dravyake samīp jākar dekhe to bhūtārtha hai aur paryāyake samīp jākar dekhe to (abhūtārtha hai). dravya bhūtārtha aur paryāy abhūtārtha dravyakī apekṣhāse. aur paryāyake samīp jākar dekhe to paryāy bhūtārtha dikhatī hai. parantu dravyakī apekṣhāse vah abhūtārtha hai. usakī apekṣhāen̐ samajhe to virodh miṭ jātāaihai. aisā virodh miṭākar sādhanā sādh sakatā hai, yathārtha samajhe to.

vibhāv apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. aur yah gnānādi jo hain, vah apanā svabhāv hai. mātra usamen anekatā aur ek, aisā virodh hai. parantu vah virodh aisā nahīn hai ki jahān̐ ek ho, vahān̐ anek rah na sake, aisā nahīn hai. lakṣhaṇabhed hai. lakṣhaṇabhed, paryāyabhed aisā bhed hai. dūsarā bhed nahīn hai. aur ek dravyake andar samā jātā hai. dravya svayam dravya apekṣhāse ek aur usamen dharma ananta, guṇ ananta. vah to dravyakī ek vibhūti hai. usakī paryāyen ananta, vah sab dravyakī vibhūti hai. dravya aisā nahīn hotā ki jo vibhūti rahit ho. jo guṇ rahit dravya ho to use dravya hī nahīn kahate. aisī ananta vibhūtise bharapūr bharā huā dravya hai.

use apane vichārase nakkī kare, nayase pramāṇase nakkī kare. vah nakkī karatā hai vahī usakī svānubhūtimen... yadyapi svānubhūti apūrva hai, parantu svānubhūtimen use pratīt karatā hai, us prakārakī svānubhūtimen usakā nāsh nahīn hotā hai. anekāntamay mūrti svayam shāshvat hī hai. usakā virodh miṭākar sādhanā sādh sakate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- sab dravyake hī dharma hai? virodhī bhī dravyakā hī dharma hai.

samādhānaḥ- dravyake hī dharma haĩn. ek vastuke dharma haĩn. aur usamen rah sakate haĩn.

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mumukṣhuḥ- vastuko upajāneevāle.

samādhānaḥ- vastuko upajānevāle, vastuko ṭikānevāle, vastu anek dharmakī mūrti hai. āshcharyakārī vastu hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ek prashna hai ki nirvikalpa anubhūtike samay gnānaguṇ pariṇaman to karatā hī hai, to us vakta ātmāke bandhāraṇake dravya-guṇ-paryāy nirvikalpapane gnāt hote hain yā sabakā ekarūp anubhav hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- gnānaguṇ pariṇaman karatā hai vah pariṇati to maujūd hai. nirvikalpatāmen yadi andar jāy aur dravya, guṇ, paryāy nahīn rahate ho to gnānaguṇakā pariṇaman bhī nahīn rahatā. parantu jo svayam vikalpa chhūṭakar nirvikalpa hotā hai... pahale nay, pramāṇase nakkī kiyā. dravya, guṇ, paryāy vastumen hai. vah vikalpake sāth nakkī kiyā. andaramen jātā hai vahān̐ nirvikalpamen bhī dravya-guṇ-paryāy sab vastumen maujūd hai. parantu ekamek yānī dravyase vastu bhinna nahīn hai. vastu guṇ aur paryāy bhinna nahīn hai. bhale ekamek hai, parantu usake lakṣhaṇ, usakī paryāyen jaisā hai vaisā gnānamen gnāt hotā hai. vastukā svarūp nirvikalpapane jaisā hai vaisā gnāt hotā hai. vah koī bhinna vastukī bhān̐ti gnāt nahīn hote. parantu ek hī vastukā svarūp (hai).

jaise agni aur uṣhṇatā. uṣhṇatā agnise bhinna nahīn hai, shītalatā pānīse bhinna nahīn hai. vah sab dr̥uṣhṭānta hai. shakkaramen shvetapanā, mīṭhās ādi hai. vah usase bhinna nahīn hai. parantu vaise guṇ usamen hai. vaise yah sahajapane haĩn. isaliye vikalpa chhūṭanese pahale vikalpase nakkī kiyā parantu phir vikalpa chhūṭ gaye to bhī svarūp to vaisā hī rah jātā hai aur svarūp gnānamen gnāt bhī hotā hai.

gnān svayaṅko jānatā hai, abhedako jānatā hai, gnān bhedako jānatā hai, gnān ananta guṇoṅko, gnān apanī paryāyoṅko, sabako jānanekā gnānakā svabhāv hai. ekamek yānī ek vastumen sab hai. us apekṣhāse ekamek hai. parantu guṇabhed, paryāyabhed, lakṣhaṇabhed aur ansh-anshīkā bhed hai, paryāy palaṭatī hai, vah sab jaisā hai vaisā gnānamen gnāt hotā hai. ekamek yānī usamen guṇ aur paryāy nahīn rahate hain, aisā nahīn hai. gnānakī jo paryāy, gnānakā jānanekā svabhāv aur guṇ jo pariṇaman karate haĩn. ātmāmen ananta bhāv rahe haĩn. vah jaisā hai vaisā gnān sabako jānatā hai.

anubhūtike samay koī apūrva anubhūti (hotī hai). jo vikalpase nakkī kiyā usase usakī anubhūti bhale alag aur apūrva hai, to bhī guṇ-paryāyakā nāsh nahīn ho jātā. us anupam anubhiūtimen usake guṇ-paryāy jaisā hai vaisā use adabhutarūpase jaisā hai vaisā gnāt hotā hai. ekamek hai, dravya apekṣhāse bhinna-bhinna nahīn hai. ekamek anubhūti honepar

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bhī usake lakṣhaṇ jaisā hai vaisā, usakā ansh-anshīkā bhed, usakī paryāyen pariṇaman kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen ātmāke guṇake jo taraṅg hote hain, vah sab jaisā hai vaisā adabhut aur āshcharyakārī use gnānamen gnāt hotā hai. usamense vah nikal nahīn jāte. abhed yānī usamen guṇ hī nahīn hai aur paryāyen nahīn hain, aisā nahīn hai.

siddha bhagavānamen sab rahatā hai. ananta guṇ aur paryāya. siddha bhagavān vītarāg ho gaye to bhī usamen ananta guṇ, ananta paryāy (jo hain) un sabako gnān jānatā hai. svānubhūtimen bhī, usakā gnān pūrṇa nahīn hai, parantu usakī svānubhūtimen jo ātā hai, usakī ananta agādhatā jo hai, usake guṇ, paryāy jaise hain vaisā gnāt hotā hai. ākulatārūp- vikalparūp nahīn, parantu nirvikalparūpase svānubhūtimen jaisā hai vaisā gnāt hotā hai. aisā vastukā svarūp hī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- pūjya gurudevako koṭi-koṭi vandana. pūjya bahinashrī! ek prashna hai. samyagdr̥uṣhṭi jīvako gnāyakakī ḍor hāthamen ā jāneke bād upayog bāhar jāy to samyakatvako koī hānī pahun̐chatī hai? upayog bāharamen ho tab bhī kyā nirantar shāntikā vedan hotā hai? nirvikalpa avasthā nahīn hai, usakā koī khed hotā hai? upayogakī aisī aṭapaṭī bāt āp samajhānekī kr̥upā karẽn.

samādhānaḥ- samyagdr̥uṣhṭiko jo gnāyakadashā pragaṭ huyī hai, vah gnāyak use grahaṇ huā hai. nirantar gnāyakakī dashā hī vartatī hai. vah gnāyakakī dashā jinendra devake upadeshase aur guruke upadeshake nimittase svayaṅke puruṣhārthase jo pragaṭ hotī hai, vah gnāyakakī dashā use nirantar vartatī hai. gnāyak jise grahaṇ huā, so vah grahaṇ ho gayā. nirantar use gnāyakakī dashā hai. upayog bāhar jāy to bhī use gnāyak chhūṭatā nahī̃n. upayog andar jāy to bhī use gnāyak to chhūṭatā hī nahī̃n. andar jāy tab to gnāyakakā pariṇaman hai. bāhar āye, upayog bāhar āye to bhī gnāyak to grahaṇarūp hī rahatā hai.

usakī dr̥uṣhṭiko koī dikkat, usakī gnāyakatāko dikkat nahīn ātī. usakī asthiratāko dikkat ātī hai. usakī sthir pariṇati, abhī sthiratā pūrṇa nahīn hai isaliye asthiratākā doṣh hai. parantu use gnāyakakī jo dr̥uṣhṭi pragaṭ huyī, us dr̥uṣhṭimen use thoḍā bhī doṣh nahīn lagatā. aur shāntikā vedan hotā hai. jaisī ekatvabuddhikī ākulatā thī, vaisī ākulatā nahīn hai. usakī asthiratākī ākulatākī alag bāt hai. bākī antaramen use shāntikā vedan hotā hai, samādhikā vedan hai, use sukhakā vedan hotā hai. nirvikalpa dashākā jo ānanda hotā hai, vah ānanda to alag hī hai. vah to anupam, koī apūrva, koī alag hī jātakā hai, jise jagatakī koī upamā lāgū nahīn paḍatī. vah ānandakī dashā aur chaitanyakī dashā alag hotī hai. to bhī use savikalpa dashāmen jo shāntikā

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vedan hotā hai, vah gnāyakakī shānti evan samādhikā vedan hotā hī rahatā hai. upayog bāhar jāy to bhī use ekatvabuddhi nahīn hotī. gnāyakatā, prati samay use gnāyakatā maujūd hī rahatī hai.

jo gnāyak grahaṇ huā vah use chhūṭatā nahīn hai. jaise gharamen khaḍā huā manuṣhya apane gharako chhoḍe binā bāhar bāt kare, gharamen khaḍe rahakar bāhar bātachīt kare parantu apanā ghar chhūṭatā nahīn hai. ghar chhoḍakar bāhar jātā hī nahī̃n. jo chaitanyakī ḍor hāthamen āyī, vah chaitanyakī ḍor use chhūṭatī nahī̃n. usakī pariṇati bāhar jyādā nahīn jātī hai. use maryādā rahatī hai. maryādāke bāhar, upayog maryādāse bāhar jātā hī nahīn hai.

usakī bhedagnānakī dhārā nirantar vartatī hai. main chaitanya aur yah vibhāv hai. vibhāvamen ekamek hokar bāhar jātā hī nahī̃n. chaitanyakā ghar vah chhoḍatā hī nahī̃n. jab upayog antaramen jāy vah usake hāthamen hī hai. usakā mārga saral ho gayā hai. jab use apanī or pariṇati ātī hai, to nirvikalpa dashā bhī use apane hāthamen hai. parantu asthiratāke kāraṇ usakī bhūmikā anusār use nirvikalpa dashā hotī hai. ghar to usakā chhūṭatā hī nahī̃n. chāhe jaise prasaṅgamen gnāyak.. gnāyak.. gnāyakakā ghar use chhūṭatā nahī̃n. chāhe jaisā vikalpa āye yā chāhe jaise bāhya prasaṅg, uday āve to bhī use gnāyakakā grahaṇ, gnāyak to chhūṭatā hī nahī̃n.

gharamen khaḍā huā manuṣhya bāhar bātachīt kare yā bāharake koī prasaṅgamen jāy to bhī vah ghar chhoḍakar bāhar nahīn jātā hai. gharamen khaḍā huā manuṣhya jaise bātachīt, lenaden karatā hai, vaise vah gharamen khaḍe-khaḍe nirantar gharamen hī-gnāyakake gharamen hī khaḍā hai. mātra us gharamen līnatākī, asthiratākī kṣhati hai. isaliye use kisī bhī prakārakā dr̥uṣhṭikā doṣh nahīn lagatā hai. use gnāyakatāmen doṣh nahīn ātā hai. parantu asthiratākā doṣh use hai. abhī alpatā hai. alpatāke kāraṇ vah samajhatā hai ki nirvikalpa dashā merī bhūmikā anusār hotī hai. bāharakī jo vikalpātmak dashā, jo asthiratā hai, asthiratā (chhūṭakar) yadi līnatā adhik ho to nirvikalpa dashā pragaṭ hotī hai. arthāt jaisā apanā puruṣhārtha utpanna hotā hai, vaise svarūpamen jam jātā hai. lekin use vaisā ekatvabuddhikā khed nahīn hai. use bhāvanā hotī hai, kahān̐ kevalagnānīkī dashā, kahān̐ munioṅkī dashā aur kahān̐ yah adhūrī dashā. bāhar juḍanā ho jātā hai. kahān̐ chaitanyakī apūrva ānandakī dashā, vah chhūṭakar bāhar jānā hotā hai. aisī bhāvanā use hotī hai. use puruṣhārthakī bhāvanā hotī hai. parantu vah haṭh nahīn karatā. apanī sahaj pariṇati (chalatī hai), puruṣhārtha karatā hai, pramād nahīn karatā hai. puruṣhārthakī ḍor hāthamen hī hai. upayogako jyādā bāhar nahīn jāne detā. svarūpakī or ḍorako khīn̐chatā hī rahatā hai. jyādā bāhar jāye to bhī

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gnāyakakā jo grahaṇ huā, usī or apanī ḍor khīn̐chatā hī rahatā hai.

chāhe jaise bāhya prasaṅg āve, use bāhya uday, nokarmake uday yā bhāvakarmake uday, vah maryādāke bāhar nahīn jātā. use kisī prakārakā bhay nahīn hai. koī vedanākā bhay, koī akasmāt bhay, aisā koī bhay use nahīn lagatā hai. merī gnāyakakī pariṇati maujūd hai, mujhe koī nukasān kar sake aisā nahīn hai. andar bhāvakarmamen bhī usakī jo bhūmikā hai, us prakārake vikalpa āte haĩn. use maryādā chhoḍakar koī vikalpa nahīn hai. vah maryādāke bāhar nahīn jātā. usamen use us prakārakā bhay nahīn hai ki merā gnāyak chhūṭ jāyagā. kyoṅki usake puruṣhārthakī ḍor hāthamen hai.

gnāyakakā ghar grahaṇ kiyā so kiyā, gnāyakarūp hī usakī pariṇati ho gayī hai. usakī dashā sharīrake sāth yā vikalpake sāth kahīn ekatva nahīn hotī. gnāyak, gnāyak aur gnāyak, gnāyakamay hī usakī pariṇati rahatī hai. kisī prakārakā use khed, ekatvabuddhikā khed nahīn hotā. bākī vītarāg honekī, muni bananekī bhāvanā rahatī hai. parantu usakī dr̥uṣhṭiko doṣh nahīn lagatā hai, gnāyakatāmen doṣh nahīn lagatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- laḍāīmen bhī aisī hī sthiti hotī hai? samādhānaḥ- hān̐, laḍāīke vakta bhī usakī gnāyakatā maujūd hai. aise bāhya prasaṅgamen khaḍā hai ki rājakā rāg chhūṭatā nahīn hai, isaliye is laḍāīmen juḍanā paḍatā hai. to bhī nyāyakī rītase laḍāīke prasaṅgamen juḍatā hai. lekin aisā kahatā hai ki, are..! yah rājakā rāg chhūṭatā nahīn hai, isaliye isamen khaḍā hū̃n. parantu gnāyakatā chhūṭatī nahī̃n. usake rāg-dveṣhake vikalpa maryādā bāhar jāte nahī̃n. usakī pariṇati vah svayam jānatā hai aur jo use samajhe vah jān sakatā hai. bākī bāharase jo gr̥uhasthāshramamen rahate ho, usakī pariṇati pahachānanī mushkil paḍatā hai. kyoṅki chakravartīkā rāj ho, laḍāīke prasaṅg ho, usamen usakī pariṇati pahachānanī mushkil paḍatā hai. parantu usakī pariṇati antarase bhinna hī rahatī hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

 

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