Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 118.

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છ દ્રવ્ય, પંચાસ્તિકાય, નવ તત્ત્વ , હેય-જ્ઞેય-ઉપાદેય, દ્રવ્ય-ગુણ-પર્યાય, ઉત્પાદ-વ્યય-ધ્રૌવ્યનું જ્ઞાન સમ્યગ્દર્શનની પ્રાપ્તિ માટે જાણવું પ્રયોજનભૂત છે? એકલા ધ્રુવ જીવસ્વભાવને જાણવાથી શું મુકિતમાર્ગમાં જઈ શકાય છે?    0   Play
chha dravya, pañchāstikāy, nav tattva , hey-gney-upādey, dravya-guṇ-paryāy, utpād-vyay-dhrauvyanun gnān samyagdarshananī prāpti māṭe jāṇavun prayojanabhūt chhe? ekalā dhruv jīvasvabhāvane jāṇavāthī shun mukitamārgamān jaī shakāy chhe?    0   Play

દ્રવ્યદ્રષ્ટિ દ્રવ્ય સ્વભાવ સિવાય કોઈને સ્વીકારતી નથી પણ દ્રષ્ટિ પર્યાય છે. અને તેમાં તો રાગ-દ્વેષ થાય છે ને?    8:30   Play
dravyadraṣhṭi dravya svabhāv sivāy koīne svīkāratī nathī paṇ draṣhṭi paryāy chhe. ane temān to rāg-dveṣh thāy chhe ne?    8:30   Play

સમ્યગ્દર્શનમાં જે રીતે ભેદજ્ઞાનની ધારા વર્તે છે શું તે જ માર્ગે કેવળજ્ઞાન થાય છે? કેવળજ્ઞાનનું શું સ્વરૂપ છે? તે સમજાવવા કૃપા કરશો.    9:40   Play
samyagdarshanamān je rīte bhedagnānanī dhārā varte chhe shun te ja mārge kevaḷagnān thāy chhe? kevaḷagnānanun shun svarūp chhe? te samajāvavā kr̥upā karasho.    9:40   Play

‘શુદ્ધ દ્રવ્યસ્વભાવની દ્રષ્ટિ કરીને પર્યાયની અશુદ્ધતાને ખ્યાલમાં રાખી પુરુષાર્થ કર’. પર્યાયમાં અશુદ્ધતાનો પક્ષ અનાદિથી છે તો અશુદ્ધતાનો ખ્યાલ ન ચુકી જવાય તેમ કેમ ફરમાવો છો?    15:50   Play
‘shuddha dravyasvabhāvanī draṣhṭi karīne paryāyanī ashuddhatāne khyālamān rākhī puruṣhārtha kar’. paryāyamān ashuddhatāno pakṣha anādithī chhe to ashuddhatāno khyāl na chukī javāy tem kem pharamāvo chho?    15:50   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- chhaḥ dravya, pañchāstikāy, nav tattva, hey-gney-upādey tattva, dravya-guṇ- paryāy, utpād-vyay-dhrauvya ityādikā gnān samyagdarshanakī prāptike liye jānanā prayojanabhūt hai? athavā ek dhruv jīv svabhāvako jānanese mukti mārga par jā sakate hain?

samādhānaḥ- jyādā shāstragnān ho to jānanemen āye aisā nahīn hai. mūl prayojanabhūt tattva jāne. dhruv aur dravya-guṇ-paryāyakā svarūp, ātmā, usake guṇ-paryāy, sva-parakā bhedagnān jo prayojanabhūt hai ki jo mokṣhamārgamen pragaṭ hotā hai, use prayojanabhūt ho utanā jāne to bhī mokṣhamārga pragaṭ hotā hai. usamen jyādā jāne to hotā hai, aisā nahīn hai. parantu prayojanabhūt tattva to jāne. shivabhūti muni kuchh nahīn jānate the, parantu unhen yah dāl bhinna aur chhilakā bhinna, bāī dho rahī thī usamense dāl bhinna aur chhilakā bhinna. vaise merā ātmā bhinna aur vibhāv bhinna hai. aisā bhedagnān kare. sva-parakā bhedagnān karake antaramen līn ho gaye. parantu sva-parakā bhedavignānamen main yah dravya hūn̐ aur yah vibhāv hai. main anādiananta shuddhātmā hū̃n. aur yah paryāy hai, us paryāyamen vibhāv hotā hai. lekin vah merā svabhāv nahīn hai.

svabhāv-vibhāvakā bhedagnān karake antaramen ūtar gaye. usamen sab ā jātā hai. jīvatattva, āsrav, samvar, nirjarā saba. ānshik sādhakadashā huyī. visheṣh puruṣhārtha kare to nirjarā hotī hai aur pūrṇatā honese mokṣha hotā hai. is prakār usakī pariṇatimen hī sab ā jātā hai.

tiryañch kuchh jānate nahīn, to tiryañchako shabda nahīn āte, parantu sva-parakā bhedavignān hotā hai ki main yah ātmā hūn̐ aur yah vibhāv hai. svabhāv-vibhāvakā bhedagnān ho, usamen main yah chaitanya svabhāv, gnāyak svabhāv merā ātmā, yah vibhāv merā svabhāv nahīn hai. aur vah mere puruṣhārthakī mandatāse hotā hai. use bhāvamen sab ā jātā hai. bhedavignānamẽn. nām nahīn āte haĩn.

main yah gnāyak hūn̐ aur yah vibhāvakī pariṇati mere svabhāvamen nahīn hai. aise bhedavignān karake gnāyakako grahaṇ karatā hai. aur us gnāyakakī grahaṇatāmen āge baḍhe, āge jānekā puruṣhārtha, gnāyakakī dr̥uṣhṭiko dr̥uḍh rakhanekā puruṣhārtha, samvar, amuk svarūpācharaṇ chāritra sab

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usamen ā jātā hai. nav tattvakā sab usamen ā jātā hai. parantu use nām nahīn āte haĩn. parantu sva-parakā bhedagnān ho, usamen nav tattva usakī sādhakadashāmen sab ā jātā hai. darshan, gnān, chāritra. yah darshan evan gnān, aisī svayaṅkī pratīt kī, main yah chaitanya aise akhaṇḍa dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi gayī. aur yah para. vibhāv par aur main sva. usamen gnān sva-parako jāne yah ā jātā hai.

apanī or līnatā karatā hai. usamen ānshik svarūpācharaṇ chāritra ātā hai. isaliye usamen darshan, gnān, chāritra (ā gayā). usamen visheṣh līnatākā prayatna bhī karatā hai. ataḥ usamen darshan, gnān, chāritrake bhed bhī usamen ā jāte haĩn. use nām nahīn āte. kitane hī tiryañch pān̐chaven guṇasthānako pragaṭ karate haĩn. isaliye usakī visheṣh līnatāko bhī pragaṭ karate haĩn. usamen chāritrakī dashā (ā jātī hai). darshan, gnān, chāritrake bhed bhī ā jāte haĩn. ataḥ bhed kyā, abhed kyā, sādhya-sādhakakā jo panth hai vah use binā nām bhī usamen ā jātā hai.

isaliye amuk prayojanabhūt gnān honā chāhiye. dhruvako jāne, dhruvako yathārtha jānā kab kahanen āye? ki dhruvako yathārtha jāne usake sāth usake sab pahalū ā jāy, to usane yathārtha dhruvako jānā hai. main gnāyak dhruv hūn̐ aur yah vibhāv main nahīn hū̃n. aise usake prayojanabhūt pahalū ā jāne chāhiye. akelā dhruv yānī us dhruvamen shuṣhkatāse akelā dhruv (ātā ho ki) meremen kuchh hai hī nahī̃n. nahīn hai yānī usakī paryāyamen bhī nahīn hai aur puruṣhārthakī mandatāse hotā hai, usakā koī vivek na ho to usane dhruvako yathārtha grahaṇ nahīn kiyā hai. dhruvamen sab pahalū ā jāne chāhiye.

dhruv, ek gnāyak dhruvamen sab ā jātā hai. parantu vah yathārthapane kab grahaṇ hotā hai? ki usamen sab ā jānā chāhiye. to yathārtha grahaṇ kiyā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi, main gnāyak hūn̐ aisī dr̥uṣhṭi samyak kab kahī jāy? ki usake sāth gnān bhī samyak (hotā hai). gnān jo vivek karatā hai vah gnānakā vivek aur dr̥uṣhṭi, donon samyak ho to use samyak kahate haĩn. parantu gnān samyak nahīn ho to dr̥uṣhṭi samyak nahīn hotī. aur dr̥uṣhṭi samyak na ho to gnān bhī samyak nahīn hotā. isaliye usamen samyak ho to ek dhruvako grahaṇ kare to bhī usamen sab ā jātā hai. parantu usamen saṅkṣhepamen sva-parakā bhedagnān, dravyadr̥uṣhṭipūrvakakā sva-parakā bhedagnān (hotā hai). parantu vah bhedavignān akelā nahīn hotā.

bhedagnān kise kahate hain? ki dravyadr̥uṣhṭipūrvak ho to hī bhedagnān (kahalātā hai). bhed kisase kare? svayam svayaṅko grahaṇ kare to bhed paḍe. svayaṅko grahaṇ kiye binā bhed hogā kaise? main yah chaitanya hūn̐ aur yah nahīn hūn̐, aise svayaṅko grahaṇ kiye binā bhed hogā hī kaise? yathārtha bhedavignān hotā hai usamen dravyadr̥uṣhṭi bhī ā jātī hai.

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jo bhagavānako jāne vah svayaṅko jānatā hai. aisā sambandha hai. bhagavānake dravya- guṇ-paryāyako jāne, vah svayaṅke dravya-guṇ-paryāyako jānatā hai. svayaṅko dravya-guṇ-paryāyako jāne vah bhagavānake dravya-guṇ-paryāyako jānatā hai. aisā nimitta-upādānakā sambandha hai. lekin dravya-guṇ-paryāyamen sab saṅkṣhepamen ā jātā hai.

anādi kālase mārga nahīn jānā hai, usamen nimitta-upādānakā aisā sambandha hai ki pahale ek bār bhagavānakī vāṇī athavā koī gurukī vāṇī pratyakṣhapane mil tab use antaramen apūrvatā lagatī hai. karatā hai svayanse, parantu usamen aisā nimitta-upādānakā sambandha rahā hai.

is prakār ek dhruv gnāyakamen ā jātā hai, parantu vah kab? ki sab pahalū, prayojanabhūt pahalū ā jāne chāhiye. pahalū ā jāte haĩn. akelā dhruv, rukhā dhruv ho jāy to vah yathārtha nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sab pahalū jāne binā sīdhā dhruv par jāyā bhī nahīn jātā.

samādhānaḥ- aise sīdhā nahīn jā sakatā. pahalū bhī, jyādā gnān ho athavā jyādā shāstra jāne, jāne to adhik lābhakā kāraṇ hai, phir bhī na jāne to saṅkṣhepamen sva- par bhedavignānako jāne to bhī usamen ā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- pratham dhruv svabhāv par dr̥uṣhṭi karanī, usake bād pahalū jānanā, aisā kuchh nahīn?

samādhānaḥ- lekin vah pratham dhruv par jāy, use sab pahalū ā jāte haĩn. lekin dhruvako jānā nahīn hai, andar vichārase nakkī kiye binā, gnānakā vyavahār bīchamen āye binā nahīn rahatā. gnānase vichār kare, main kaun? par kaun? aise vichār kiye binā gnānase vivek kiye binā vah āge nahīn baḍh sakatā. main dhruv hī hūn̐, aisā vichār kiyā, gnānase nakkī kiyā to bhī bīchamen gnān to ā hī jātā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi evan gnān donon sāthamen hī rahe haĩn. dr̥uṣhṭi rakhūn̐, gnānako nikāl dūn̐ to aise nahīn nikalegā. gnānako nikāl dūn̐ to akelī dr̥uṣhṭi nahīn rahatī.

ātmā ananta guṇase bharā, ananta dhamāse bharā hai. usamense ekako grahaṇ karun̐, ekako nikāl do to vastuko sādh nahīn sakate. usamen donon prakārakā lakṣhya rahanā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- (dr̥uṣhṭi) trikālī dravyake sivā kisīko svīkāratī nahī̃n. dr̥uṣhṭi paryāy hai aur paryāyamen to rāg-dveṣh hote haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- dr̥uṣhṭi paryāy hai, parantu vah grahaṇ karatī hai akhaṇḍako. dr̥uṣhṭikī paryāyamen rāg-dveṣh hote hain, aisā nahīn hai. dr̥uṣhṭikī paryāyamen rāg (nahīn hotā hai). paryāy grahaṇ karatī hai akhaṇḍa dravyako. dr̥uṣhṭi paryāy hai, parantu usakā viṣhay pūrṇa dravya hai. vah dravyako

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grahaṇ karatī hai. shāshvat dravyako grahaṇ karatī hai. rāg-dveṣh to vibhāv paryāy hotī hai usamen rāg-dveṣh hote haĩn. dr̥uṣhṭikī paryāyamen rāg-dveṣh nahīn hote haĩn. dr̥uṣhṭikī paryāy bhinna hai aur yah vibhāvaparyāy hotī hai vah bhinna paryāy hai. dr̥uṣhṭikī paryāy to nirmal hai. chaitanya par dr̥uṣhṭi gayī vah paryāy nirmal hai. vah to akhaṇḍa dhruv gnāyakako grahaṇ karatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ek prashna hai ki samyagdarshanamen jaisī bhedagnānakī dhārā vartatī hai, usī mārgase kevalagnān hotā hai? aur kevalagnānakā svarūp kyā hai, yah samajhānekī kr̥upā kījiye.

samādhānaḥ- jo mārga samyagdr̥uṣhṭikā hai, jo bhedagnān pragaṭ huā, vahī mārga ākhir tak rahatā hai. pahale jo jignāsāmen bhāvanā karake, prayatna karake, puruṣhārtha karake jo samyagdarshan pragaṭ huā vah use anādikālase jo durlabh thā, use puruṣhārtha karake (pragaṭ kiyā). svabhāv to sulabh hai, parantu use anādikālase ekatvabuddhike kāraṇ durlabh ho gayā thā. vah jisane puruṣhārthakī bhāvanā aur puruṣhārtha gnāyak orakā bārambār abhyās karake aur dev-guru-shāstrake koī apūrva nimittase, dev-guru-shāstrakā nimitta to koī apūrva hai, usase svayam puruṣhārtha karake samyagdarshan pragaṭ huā aur jo gnāyakako grahaṇ kiyā, vah mārga jo hai vahī mārga ākhir tak hai. bādamen use mārga sahaj aur sugam ho jātā hai. aisā durghaṭ nahīn hai.

jo gnāyak grahaṇ huā, vah gnāyak grahaṇ huā usamen līnatākī kamī hai. līnatā kam hai. bākī jo gnāyak grahaṇ kiyā vahī gnāyak, vah gnāyak jo samyagdarshanamen hai, vahī gnāyak munidashāmen hai, vahī gnāyak, pūrṇa dashāmen bhī vahī gnāyak hai. gnāyak koī dūsarā nahīn hai. gnāyak jo grahaṇ kiyā, gnāyakakī pariṇati jo dr̥uṣhṭimen āyī vahī gnāyak, vahīkā vahī hai. parantu usamen usakī pariṇatikī līnatākī kamī hai, vah līnatā baḍhātā jātā hai. shuddhātmapravr̥uttilakṣhaṇ, jo shuddhātmākī pariṇati pragaṭ kī vahī muktikā mārga hai. jo shuddhātmāko grahaṇ kiyā, samyagdr̥uṣhṭi gr̥uhasthāshramamen hai use līnatākī (kamī hai), jaise muni līn hote hain, utane ve līn nahīn sakate haĩn. samyagdr̥uṣhṭi anek prakārake vikalpa, anek prakārakī pravr̥uttimen paḍe hote hain aur mārga to ek hī hai.

munidashāmen, jo mārga samyagdarshanamen pragaṭ huā vahī mārga munidashāmen hai. muni bārambār svarūpamen līn ho jāte haĩn. jo gnāyak grahaṇ kiyā, jo chaitanyakā ghar grahaṇ kiyā thā, us gharamen bārambār līn ho jāte hain, samā jāte haĩn. aur samyagdr̥uṣhṭine gnāyakako grahaṇ kiyā hai, bārambār līn nahīn jāte hain, bāhar jyādā rahate haĩn. muni bārambār svarūpamen līn ho jāte hain, jam jāte haĩn. antarmuhūrta-antarmuhūrtamen svarūpamen līn ho jāte haĩn. bārambār svarūpamense unhen bāhar ānā bhī mushkil paḍatā hai. ek antarmuhūrtamen bāhar āte hain

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aur phirase andar chale jāte haĩn. aisī dashā munioṅko pragaṭ hotī hai.

mārga to ek hī hai, dūsarā koī mārga nahīn hai. kevalagnān bhī usī mārgase pragaṭ hotā hai. mārga saral hai. use mārga sahaj aur sugam ho gayā hai. shramaṇo, jino, tīrthaṅkaro ā rīte sevī mārgane, siddhi varyā ... nirvāṇanāth.. bas, isī mārgase mokṣha hai. ākhir tak ek hī mārga hai, dūsarā koī mārga nahīn hai. kevalagnān hotā hai, us kevalagnānakī to kyā bāt karanī. jaisā chaitanyadravya anādiananta shāshvat hai, aisā chaitanyadravya use pariṇatirūpamen pragaṭ ho gayā. jo chaitanyadravya anādiananta shāshvat, usake ananta guṇ pariṇamanarūp (ho gaye), jo shaktimen the, kitane hī guṇ shaktimen the vah sab pragaṭ ho gaye. sab khil gaye. isaliye jaisā chaitanyadravya thā, vaisī usakī sab paryāyen khīl gayī.

kevalagnān ek samayamen lokālokako (jānatā hai). vah gnānasāgar, svayam apane svarūpamen līn ho gaye haĩn. gnāyakamen līn ho gaye, ānandasāgaramen līn ho gaye. ananta guṇ khīl gaye. parantu us gnānakī dishā svarūp or ho gayī. pūrṇa dishā. aur samyagdr̥uṣhṭiko amuk prakārase gnāyak sanmukh (dishā ho gayī hai). ye to pūrṇa svarūp sanmukh hī līn ho gaye. līn ho gaye bādamen sahajapane kṣhayopasham, gnān jo kṣhayopasharūp thā, antarmuhūrtamen kām karatā thā, vah kevalagnānīkā gnān ek samayamen binā vichār kiye, gneyako jānanekī ichchhā binā, use ichchhā bhī nahīn, nirichchhikapane gnānakī aisī shakti hai, gnān aisā sarvagna svabhāv ātmākā ek samayamen pūre lokālokako (jānatā hai).

ananta dravyakā bhūtakāl, vartamān, bhaviṣhya aise ananta-ananta dravyoṅke guṇ-paryāyoṅko usake bhinna-bhinna ananta kāl sab ek samayamen usake gnānamen ā jātā hai. phir bhī aṇureṇavat hai. use bojh nahīn hotā. gnānamen aṇu kaise paḍā ho, usakī bhān̐ti. svayam apanemen ḍūbe hue rahate haĩn. aisā svaparaprakāshak gnān use khīl jātā hai. vah kevalagnāna. unhen ichchhā bhī nahīn hai. svaparaprakāshakagnānamen... pahale nāsh nahīn ho jātā hai, shaktimen hotā hai, vah sab pragaṭ hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahinashrī! prashna hai ki āp vachanāmr̥utamen pharamāte ho ki shuddha dravya svabhāvakī dr̥uṣhṭi karake paryāyakī ashuddhatāko khyālamen rakhakar puruṣhārtha karanā. to ashuddhatākā paryāyamen anādise pakṣha to kiyā hī hai, to āp usakā khyāl na chhūṭ jāy, aisā kyon pharamāte ho?

samādhānaḥ- vah to anādikālase jo kiyā hai vah to pakṣha kiyā hai ki main to ashuddha hī hū̃n. dravyako bhūl gayā hai. aur jo ashuddhatākī paryāy hai, ashuddhatākī paryāy ki main ashuddha ho gayā, rāgī ho gayā, dveṣhī ho gayā, ātmā to kahīn dikhāī nahīn detā. isaliye dravya svarūpako bhūl gayā aur ekānta jo paryāy pariṇamatī hai,

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us paryāy par hī usakī dr̥uṣhṭi hai. aur ekāntarūpase ātmāko bhūl gayā hai. aur sirpha ashuddhatā-ashuddhatāko dekhatā rahatā hai, ashuddhatākī anubhūti karatā hai. ashuddhatākā pakṣha karatā rahatā hai. ātmā dikhatā nahīn hai. yah sab rāg-dveṣh ṭāl dū̃n. kaise ṭālanā usakā use koī khyāl nahīn hai. dravyako bhūl gayā hai aur akelī paryāyamen dr̥uṣhṭi ho gayī hai aur ekānta ho gayā hai. isaliye vah pakṣha chhoḍ denekā āchāryadev kahate haĩn.

ashuddhatākā pakṣha anādikālase kiyā. ek shuddha svarūpakā pakṣha kabhī nahīn kiyā hai. isaliye us apekṣhāse hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ekānta..

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, ekāntakī apekṣhāse hai. arthāt aisā nahīn kahanā hai ki terī ashuddhatā paryāyamen bhī nahīn hai, aisā āchāryadevako nahīn kahanā hai. āchāryadev (kahate hain), dravyadr̥uṣhṭise tū shuddha hai, use tū dekha. terī shuddhatā teremen bharī hai. ashuddhatā teremen ghus nahīn gayī hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! kahān gurudevanun hārda samajāvanār bhagavatī

mātano jay ho! janma jayanti maṅgal mahotsavano jay ho!

 

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