Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 124.

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સમ્યગ્દર્શનપૂર્વક જ્ઞાન અને સમ્યગ્દર્શનપૂર્વક ચારિત્ર પ્રગટ કરી આરાધના કરવા જેવી છે તે વિષે....    0   Play
samyagdarshanapūrvak gnān ane samyagdarshanapūrvak chāritra pragaṭ karī ārādhanā karavā jevī chhe te viṣhe....    0   Play

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sākṣhāt bhagavān na hoy to pratimānī pūjā karavāmān āve chhe    5:40   Play

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rāg ane gnānano ughāḍ chhe, paṇ rāg jeṭalo spaṣhṭa gney thāy chhe tevī rīte gnānano ughāḍ spaṣhṭa thato nathī?    8:50   Play

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gnān ja ātmānun asādhāraṇ lakṣhaṇ chhe te viṣhe.....    11:10   Play

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gnānīne pariṇatī vyāpārarūp chhe tevun āp pharamāvo chho teno artha samajāvasho?    13:45   Play

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vadhumān vadhun keṭalī jhaḍapathī nirvikalpadashā thaī shake?    15:30   Play

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gnānīne kevī rīte khabar paḍe ke pāñchamun guṇasthān āvyun?    17:30   Play

samādhānaḥ- .. samyagdarshanapūrvak gnān aur samyagdarshanapūrvakakā chāritra vah satya hai, vah satya chāritra hai.

.. rāg-dveṣh ṭālanekā ek vyavahārakā prakār hai. yathārthamen to antaramense ṭālanā hai. vah to vibhāv hai.

.. prāpta karanā vahī bhavake abhāvakā upāy hai. gnān, darshan, chāritrakī ārādhanā karanā vah hai. ratnatraya. ātmā gnānasvarūp hai, ananta guṇase bharapūr hai. dasalakṣhaṇ munikā ārādhanā parva hai. munike dharma haĩn. shrāvakoṅko bhī karane jaisā hai. gnān, darshan, chāritra ratnatrayakī ārādhanā karane jaisī hai.

gurudevane samyagdarshan kaise prāpta ho, usakā upāy batāyā, vah karanā hai. bākī bāharakā to anek bār kiyā hī hai. sab kriyāen̐ kī, shubh pariṇām (kiye), puṇya bandhan (huā), parantu bhedagnān karake jo antaramense ratnatrayakī prāpti ho vahī mokṣhakā upāy hai. sharīk kahān̐ apanā hai, vedanā kahān̐ ātmāmen hai, ātmā to nirālā chaitanya tattva hai. usamen koī chīj pravesh nahīn kar sakatī. ratnatrayakī ārādhanā karanī, vah karanekā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- (āp to) ārādhanā karake pariṇamit ho gaye ho, hamen...

samādhānaḥ- samyagdarshan, gnān aur chāritra alag hai. sab mān rahe hain vyavahārakā vah alag hai. vah sab to vikalparūp hai. kitane to kriyāmen mānate hain, koī shubhabhāvamen mānate haĩn. gnān, darshan, chāritrakā bhed paḍā vah bhī shubhabhāv hai, andar ratnatrayakī ārādhanā karanī. gnān ātmāmen (hai), darshan ātmāmen (hai).

.. bhedagnān karanā hai. svayam bhinna (hai). sab dekhatā hai parantu usase bhinnatākī shraddhā kare ki main isase bhinna hū̃n.

... shuddha svabhāvakī pariṇatirūp kriyā, vah antarakī kriyā antaramen hai. chaitanyasvabhāv par dr̥uṣhṭi karake andar svabhāvarūp pariṇati pragaṭ ho, vah svabhāvakriyā hai. .. shraddhā bhinna honī chāhiye ki main bhinna hū̃n.

.. kṣhamā, mārdav, ārjav ādi shrāvakoṅko bhī karane jaisā hai, samyagdarshanapūrvaka.

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vah pragaṭ nahīn to tabatak usakī ārādhanā karanī, usakā abhyās karane jaisā hai. usake sāth yah sab dharma āte haĩn. kṣhamā, ārjav, mārdav vah sab ārādhanā karane jaisī hai. ratnatrayakī ārādhanā.

.. ārādhanā karanese usamen gnāyakakī ārādhanā karanese ... ātmā chaitanyadevakī prāpti hotī hai. bākī dev-guru-shāstrakī virādhanā karanese usakā phal achchhā nahīn ātā. ārādhanā karanese phal achchhā ātā hai. .. ārādhanāmen ātmākī ārādhanā samā jātī hai. ātmākī ārādhanāpūrvak vah sab hotā hai. vah karanese usamen ātmā ūpar ātā hai aur usakī yadi virādhanā kī to dūr ho jātā hai. vaise ātmāse bhī dūr jātā hai, aisā usakā āshay hai. virādhanā karanese usakā phal achchhā nahīn ātā hai aur ārādhanā karanese phal achchhā ātā hai.

puṇyakī ichchhā karane jaisā nahīn hai. andar ātmā-shuddhātmākā phal āye, shuddhātmākī pariṇati prāpta ho vah karane jaisā hai. dev-guru-shāstrakī ārādhanāmen vah samāyā hai. usamen shubh to bīchamen hotā hī hai. jahān̐ anāj pakatā hai, vahān̐ ḍaṇṭhal sāthamen hotā hī hai. ḍaṇṭhal par dr̥uṣhṭi nahīn hai, dāne par dr̥uṣhṭi hai. shuddhātmākā phal āve usamen puṇyakā ḍaṇṭhal to sāthamen hotā hī hai. puṇya to sāthamen hotā hī hai.

.. to samīp āve hī. jisakī shuddhātmā par dr̥uṣhṭi ho. .. gurudev kahate hain na? ... shuddhātmā par dr̥uṣhṭi... jinendra mahimā koī alag vastu hai, usamen ātmākī mahimā samāviṣhṭa hai. jagatamen sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa tīrthaṅkaradev haĩn. unakī mahimā yānī antaraṅgase āyī huyī mahimā, usamen chaitanyadevakī mahimā samāviṣhṭa hai. sachchā, yathārtha ho to. yathārtha bhedapūrvak ho to. .. ātmākī ārādhanā karane jaisā hai.

.. pahale to kahān̐ mandir jānā ādi kuchh thā nahī̃n. shāstramen ātā hai na? jin pratimā jin sārakhī. gurudevane sab batāyā hai. sākṣhāt jinendra dev to abhī is bharatakṣhetramen nahīn hai. to unakī pratimājīkī sthāpanā karake pūjā karanekā ātā hai. sākṣhāt bhagavān virājate hon, unakī to indron pūjā karate haĩn. pratimāoṅkī bhī chaturtha kālamen pūjā karate hain, to vah mārga hī hai. pratimāoṅkā sthāpan karate hain, pūjā karate hain, shāshvat pratimāen̐ jagatamen haĩn. jagatamen sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa tīrthaṅkaradev hain to jagatake paramāṇu bhī shāshvat ratnakī pratimārūp pariṇamit ho gaye haĩn. jagatake pudagal bhī. ratnakī shāshvat pratimāen̐ haĩn. ūrdhvalok, madhyalokamen shāshvat pratimāen̐ haĩn. merumen, nandīshvaramen ratnakī pān̐chasau-pān̐chasau dhanuṣhakī, jaise bhagavān samavasaraṇamen virājate hain, vaisī pratimāen̐ hain, ekamātra dhvani-divyadhvani nahīn hai.

jagatamen sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa bhagavān tīrthaṅkaradev haĩn. ve sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa hain to jagatake paramāṇu bhī ratnamay pratimārūp shāshvat pariṇamit ho gaye haĩn. yah batātā hai ki jagatamen sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa

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jinendra dev haĩn. dev unakī pūjā karate hain ki yah bhagavān ādaraṇīy haĩn. akr̥utrim hai parantu kudarat pariṇamit huyī hai. akr̥utrim shāshvat pratimāen̐, us rūp kudarat pariṇamit ho gayī hai. ataḥ shrāvak bhī us tarah pratimāoṅkī sthāpanā karate haĩn. chaturtha kālamen bhī pratimāoṅkī sthāpanā hotī hai aur pañchamakālamen (bhī karate hain), vah mārga hī hai.

baḍe rājā, chakravartī bhī pratimāoṅkī sthāpanā karate haĩn. mandir banavāte hain, pratimāoṅkī sthāpanā karate haĩn. antaramen gnāyakadev samajhamen nahīn āyā hai, pūrṇatā prāpta nahīn huyī hai tabatak bāharamen shubhabhāvamen jinendra dev, guru evan shāstrake shubhabhāv āye binā nahīn rahate. ... muni hon, ve bhagavānake darshan to karate hī haĩn. pūjā to shrāvak karate hain aur muni darshan to karate hī haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. aur gnānakā ughāḍ bhī hai, parantu rāg jitanā spaṣhṭa gney hotā hai, us tarah ughāḍ gney nahīn hotā hai.

samādhānaḥ- rāg dikhatā hai. rāg anādikā.. (vastuko) dekhatā nahīn hai aur svayam rāgako dekhatā hai. rāgamen ekatvabuddhi hai isaliye. .. to svayam hī hai. apanī or dr̥uṣhṭi kare to gnān bhī dikhāī de. parantu dr̥uṣhṭi apanī or nahīn hai aur rāg or dr̥uṣhṭi hai. rāgakā vedan hai. gnānakī or dr̥uṣhṭi nahīn karatā hai, gnānakā vedan nahīn karatā hai. dikhāī nahīn detā hai. anādikā abhyās rāgakī orakā hai isaliye.

.. jānanevālā kaun hai? svayam hī hai. rāg hai use jānā kisane? svayanne. svayam svayaṅko nahīn dekhatā hai. anādikī aisī bhram buddhi ho gayī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- pahale to jis gnānakā grahaṇ hotā hai vah to paryāy hai na?

samādhānaḥ- gnānakā grahaṇ hotā hai vah paryāy hai, lekin vah grahaṇ kise karatī hai? gnān svayam svayaṅko grahaṇ karatā hai, shāshvat dravyako grahaṇ karatī hai. grahaṇ karanevālī bhale paryāy hai, parantu shāshvat dravyako grahaṇ karatī hai. vah paryāyako dekhatā nahīn hai, vah dekhatā hai shāshvat dravyako dekhatā hai. paryāy to bīchamen ātī hai. paryāy to grahaṇ karatī hai, parantu grahaṇ karanā kise hai? ki shāshvat dravyako grahaṇ karanā hai.

.. paryāy is or āye, parantu svakī or paryāy jātī hai, lekin grahaṇ akhaṇḍa evan shāshvatako grahaṇ karanekā hai. ansh bhī anshīko grahaṇ karatā hai, pūrṇako. to hī yathārthatāse grahaṇ kiyā hai. ek ansh grahaṇ hotā ho to grahaṇ nahīn kiyā hai. anshī grahaṇ ho to hī usane yathārtha grahaṇ kiyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. jisake dvārā grahaṇ hotā hai.

samādhānaḥ- gnān hī asādhāraṇ lakṣhaṇ hai. mukhya lakṣhaṇ gnān hī hai. ... to bādamen pragaṭ hotā hai, pahale to use gnānase grahaṇ hotā hai. gnān hī asādhāraṇ lakṣhaṇ

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hai. use bhedagnān ho to shānti pragaṭ ho, bākī shāntikā lakṣhaṇ pahale (grahaṇ nahīn hotā hai), pahale gnānakā lakṣhaṇ asādhāraṇ hai. ananta guṇ hai, parantu asādhāraṇ visheṣh lakṣhaṇ ho to gnān hī hai. gnān kaho, chetanā kaho, jo bhī kaho, upayog kaho. sab ek hī hai. upayog yānī pūrā le lenā, pūrā gnān ātmā. koī jagah upayogako paryāy kahā ho, upayog pūrā bhī lete hain, upayogamen upayog yānī pūrā le lenā. lekin vah ek hī hai. gnānamen sab ā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. usakā lakṣhaṇ shānti aur ānanda bane ki usakā lakṣhaṇ bhī gnān hī rahe?

samādhānaḥ- use kahān̐ phir lakṣhaṇase grahaṇ karanekā hai? use to grahaṇ ho gayā hai, use grahaṇ nahīn karanekā hai. use gnāyak grahaṇ ho gayā hai. gnāyak use hājarāhajūr sab lakṣhaṇ hī hai. gnāyak hai, shānti, ānanda sab hai. use grahaṇ karanekā nahīn hai, use grahaṇ ho gayā hai. pūrā gnāyak grahaṇ karatā hai, usamen use shānti, gnāyakatā sab ā jātā hai. vedakatā, chaitanyatā ye sab jīv vilāsa. sab usamen ā jātā hai. samatā, ramatā, ūrdhvatā, gnāyakatā, sukhabhāsa. vedakatā, chaitanyatā ye sab jīv vilāsa. samatā, ramatā. ramya svabhāv hai, ūrdhvatā, gnāyakatā, sukhabhās sab gnāyakamen ā jātā hai. vedakatā, chaitanyatā vah sab jīvake lakṣhaṇ hai. vah jise grahaṇ huā usamen sab ā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānīko pariṇati vyāpārarūp hotī hai aisā āp pharamāte ho. parantu usakā artha samajhamen nahīn ātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- vyāpārarūp arthāt gnāyakatā aur bhedavignānakī pariṇati savikalpa dashāmen gnānīko jo svānubhūti huyī, usake bād jo savikalpa dashā hotī hai, usamen gnāyakakī dhārā use vartatī hai. jitane anshamen use gnāyakatā pragaṭ huyī hai, pūrī dr̥uṣhṭine to dravyako grahaṇ kiyā. usamen gnān us or jhukā hai aur ānshik pariṇati jhukī hai. isaliye usakī gnāyakatākī dhārā vartatī hī rahatī hai. use visheṣh-visheṣh puruṣhārthakī dhārā, bhedagnānakī dhārā vartatī rahatī hai. usakā puruṣhārthakā vyāpār chalatā rahatā hai.

kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇameen use bhedagnānakī dhārā vartatī hī rahatī hai. chāhe jaise shubh vikalpa ho to bhī use bhedagnānakī dhārā, gnātākī dhārā vartatī hī rahatī hai. vah vartatī hai, use kabhī svānubhūti hotī hai, kabhī vah savikalpatāmen ho, lekin bhedagnānakī dhārā use kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen chalatī hai. chāhe jo bhī kāryamen ho, vikalpamen ho, bhedagnānakī dhārā gnāyakakī dhārā, use ānshik shāntikā vedan, gnāyakatā vah sab use chhūṭatā nahīn hai. sabase urdhva bhinna rahatā hai. vah use chhūṭatā nahī̃n. jāgate, sote, svapnamen bhī use gnāyakatākī dhārā aise hī chalatī rahatī hai.

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mumukṣhuḥ- jyādāse jyādā kitanī shīghratāse nirvikalpa dashā ho sakatī hai?

samādhānaḥ- usake puruṣhārthakī yogyatā ho us anusār hotī hai. chhaṭhṭhe-sātaven guṇasthānamen kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen hotī hai, vaisā use nahīn hotā. chauthese pān̐chavemen visheṣh hotī hai. chautheke yogya ho utanā use hotā hai. chhaṭhṭhe-sātaven guṇasthānamen antarmuhūrta-antarmuhūrtamen hotī hai, aisā use chaturtha guṇasthānamen utanī shīghratāse nahīn hotī. bākī jaisī usakī puruṣhārthakī gati ho, us anusār hotā hai. usakā niyamit kāl nahīn hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- koī jīv tīvra puruṣhārthī ho to?

samādhānaḥ- to usakī pariṇati andar ugratāse, gnāyakakī ugra pariṇati ho to use visheṣh hotī hai. kisīko amuk hotī hai, kisīko amuk hotī hai, parantu usakī bhūmikākā ullaṅghan karake nahīn hotī, bhūmikā anusār hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ek dinamen pachās-sān̐ṭh bār nirvikalpa dashā ho, aisā hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- pachās-sān̐ṭh bār ho aisī dashā chaturtha guṇasthānamen nahīn hotī.

mumukṣhuḥ- tīn-chār bār hotī ho, aisā hai?

samādhānaḥ- aisā koī niyam nahīn hai. ... aisā nahīn hotā. svānubhūti karanevāleko svānubhūtikī ginatī par lakṣhya nahīn hai. use svabhāvakī shuddhi vr̥uddhigat karane par (lakṣhya) hotā hai. usamen usakī svānubhūtikī dashā vardhamān hotī jātī hai. usake svabhāvakī nirmalatā, chāritrakī pariṇati visheṣh-visheṣh nirmal hotī jātī hai. us par usakī pariṇati hotī hai, usamen use svānubhūtikī dashā vardhamān hotī jātī hai. aisā karate-karate usakā ugra kāl hotā hai to munidashā ātī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. to gnānīko kaise mālūm paḍe ki yah pān̐chavā āyā?

samādhānaḥ- usakī pariṇati nirmalatāke samay jo hai, usakī svānubhūtikī dashā baḍhatī jātī hai, antaramen pariṇatikī nirmalatā baḍhatī jātī hai. virakti baḍhatī jātī hai. gr̥uhasthāshramake yogya jo pariṇām hote hain, usase viraktike pariṇām visheṣh vardhamān hote jāte haĩn. isaliye vah pakaḍ sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- nirvikalpa dashā ..

samādhānaḥ- nirvikalpa dashā baḍhatī jātī hai. savikalpa dashāmen virakti baḍhatī jātī hai. nirvikalpa dashā bhī baḍhatī hai aur savikalpatāmen virakti jyādā hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- chauthemen bhī us prakārase pharka paḍatā hai? samādhānaḥ- chauthekī bhūmikā ek hotī hai, parantu usakī pariṇatikī tāratamyatāmen pharka hotā hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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