Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 129.

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આત્મા જ્ઞાનસ્વભાવી હૈ તો વિભાવ ક્યોં હો રહા હૈ?    0   Play
ātmā gnānasvabhāvī hai to vibhāv kyon ho rahā hai?    0   Play

કુન્દકુન્દાચાર્ય સીમંધર ભગવાનકે પાસ ગયે થે તબ આપકા આત્મા વહાઁ થા?    1:00   Play
kundakundāchārya sīmandhar bhagavānake pās gaye the tab āpakā ātmā vahān̐ thā?    1:00   Play

રામચંદ્રજી લક્ષ્મણને લઈને ફરતા હતા તે વિષે...    1:50   Play
rāmachandrajī lakṣhmaṇane laīne pharatā hatā te viṣhe...    1:50   Play

માતાજી! ક્રમબદ્ધપર્યાયમેં શુદ્ધ એવં અશુદ્ધ દોનોં પર્યાય ક્યા નિકલતી હૈ?    3:40   Play
mātājī! kramabaddhaparyāyamen shuddha evan ashuddha donon paryāy kyā nikalatī hai?    3:40   Play

લક્ષ્ય હોવા છતાં સ્વભાવમાં કેમ ટકાતું નથી?    5:45   Play
lakṣhya hovā chhatān svabhāvamān kem ṭakātun nathī?    5:45   Play

.....જણાય છે તેને જાણનાર હું છું તેમ પરિણતિ વાળવી પડે છે કે એમને એમ....    6:50   Play
.....jaṇāy chhe tene jāṇanār hun chhun tem pariṇati vāḷavī paḍe chhe ke emane em....    6:50   Play

પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીને શ્રુતની લબ્ધિ હતી પણ શ્રુતકેવળી સાક્ષાત ન હતા પણ અપેક્ષાએ કહેવાય છે    13:10   Play
pūjya gurudevashrīne shrutanī labdhi hatī paṇ shrutakevaḷī sākṣhāt na hatā paṇ apekṣhāe kahevāy chhe    13:10   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! main gnānasvabhāvī hūn̐, to hamārā yah vibhāv pariṇaman kyon hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- anādikā ho rahā hai. gnānasvabhāv to hai. anādikā ho to rahā hai, vibhāvakā vedan to hotā hai. aur jab ho rahā hai, use toḍanā kaise? yah karanā hai, vah upāy karanā hai. ho to rahā hai anādikā.

ātmā shuddha svabhāv dravyase hai aur paryāyamen anādise ho rahā hai. jisako usakī ākulatā lage, duḥkh lage to toḍanekā upāy karanā. ho to rahā hai, kyon ho rahā hai kyā? ho rahā hai. vah to dikhanemen ātā hai. paryāyamen karma aur ātmā anādise aise hī chale āte hain, anādi sambandhase. dravyamen to shuddhatā hai, paryāyamen aisā ho rahā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhagavān kundakundasvāmī jab sīmandhar bhagavānake pās gaye, us vakta kyā āpakī ātmā vahān̐ thī?

samādhānaḥ- sab log bahut pūchhane āte hain to mujhe bahut pravr̥utti ho jātī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- hamārā to kabhī.. bāharase āye hain ham loga.

samādhānaḥ- gurudevane bahut batāyā hai, gurudevane to bahut batāyā hai. gurudev kahate the, ham sab the, aisā gurudev kahate the. gurudev svayam kahate the. ham sab the, aisā kahate the.

mumukṣhuḥ- ..

samādhānaḥ- aisā usako rāg thā. samyagdr̥uṣhṭi the, lekin unako vītarāgatā nahīn huyī thī. vītarāgatā pūrṇa nahīn huyī. chāritradashā, svarūpamen līnatā aisī visheṣh nahīn huyī thī. rāg thā nā, rāg thā isaliye rāgake kāraṇ aisā huā. rāgake kāraṇase aisā hotā hai. bhītaramen jānate hain, bhedagnān hai, yah sab bhinna hai. yah merā svabhāv nahīn hai, aisā jānatā hai, to bhī rāg aisā kārya karatā hai ki rāgake kāraṇase lakṣhmaṇakā rāg nahīn chhūṭatā hai, isaliye usako lekar phirate haiaĩn. main isako chhoḍ nahīn sakatā. lakṣhmaṇako main kaise chhoḍ dūn̐? vah rāg nahīn chhoḍ sakate. bhītaramen mānate bhī the ki

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isamen jīv nahīn hai, to bhī usakā rāg nahīn chhūṭatā thā, isaliye phirate the.

balabhadra the nā, vāsudev the. isaliye usakā rāg, bhāīke ūpar aisā bahut rāg hotā hai, isaliye chhoḍ nahīn sakate the. bādamen jab rāg (khatma) ho gayā, bādamen hotā hai, bādamen palaṭ jāte haĩn. rāg nahīn chhūṭatā hai. bhedagnān honepar bhī rāg nahīn chhūṭatā hai. jānate hain to bhī rāg nahīn chhūṭatā hai. isaliye phirate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! kramabaddha paryāy jo nikalatī hai, vah shuddha-shuddha nikalatī hai yā shuddha aur ashuddha donon nikalatī hai?

samādhānaḥ- shuddha aur ashuddha donon kramabaddha hī hotī hai, parantu apane puruṣhārthakī or dr̥uṣhṭi rakhanī chāhiye. puruṣhārtha usamen sāthamen rahatā hai. apanī kamajorīse ashuddha hotā hai, puruṣhārtha kare tab shuddhakī paryāy hotī hai. vah sāthamen kramabaddha chalatā hai. puruṣhārthake sāthamen kramabaddha lenā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- hamārī jo paryāy nikalatī hai, andarase jo paryāy nikalatī hai, vah shuddha nikalatī hai yā shuddha-ashuddha donon nikalatī hai? bāhar ākar ashuddha ho jātī hai yā andarase ashuddha ātī hai?

samādhānaḥ- andarase ashuddha hotī nahī̃n. ashuddha to karmakā nimitta hai, isaliye us or dr̥uṣhṭi karatā hai, isaliye ashuddha hotī hai. dravya to shuddha hai. ... hotā hai, jab vah nimitta hotā hai, tab usakā lāl-pīlā pariṇaman hotā hai. sphaṭikamen bhītaramense lāl nahīn ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ...

samādhānaḥ- sphaṭikamen to nirmal paryāy hotī hai. sphaṭik to saphed hai. usamen jab lāl dikhatā hai, vah nimittake kāraṇ, upādān apanā, lāl hotā hai vah sphaṭikakā mūl svabhāv nahīn hai. vah mūl svabhāv nahīn hai. pariṇaman sphaṭikakā hai, lāl jo hotā hai vah usakā mūl svabhāv nahīn hai, vah vibhāvaparyāy hai. isaliye usakā mūl svabhāv nahīn hai, bhītaramense lāl raṅg nahīn ātā hai. paryāyakā palaṭan hotā hai. nimitta sāthamen rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. bhāv bhī hai, parantu ṭikatā nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- apanī mandatā hai. nahīn ṭikatā hai, usamen bhī apanā kāraṇ hai. apane pramādake kāraṇ ṭikatā nahīn hai. svayam puruṣhārtha kare to hotā hai. nahīn ṭikanekā kāraṇ svayaṅkā hī hai. pramād apanā hai. bhedagnān nahīn honekā kāraṇ apanā hai. anādi kālase nahīn karatā hai isaliye nahīn hotā hai. svayam kare to hotā hai. apanī kṣhati hai. lakṣhya ho to bhī puruṣhārtha karanekā bākī rahatā hai. yathārtha lakṣhya, yathārtha gnāyakakī pratitī,

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bhedagnān sabakā puruṣhārtha svayaṅko karanekā hai. lakṣhya ho, vichār kiyā ki satya yahī hai, parantu us prakārakā puruṣhārtha karanā usakī kṣhati hotī hai. vah kṣhati hai, vaisī svayaṅkī kṣhati hai. kṣhati hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānalakṣhaṇ dvārā dikhatā hai, gnāt hotā hai, vedanamen ātā hai. to us vedanamen yah jo gnāt hotā hai, usakā main jānanevālā hū̃n. is prakārase usakā avalokan karake us or moḍ lenā. yah jo chīj jānanemen ātī hai, us chījako jānanevālā main hūn̐, is prakār apanā avalokan shaktiko us or moḍanī paḍatī hai ki usake khyālamen sīdhā ā jātā hai?

samādhānaḥ- yah jānanemen ātā hai, use jānanevālā main, aise nahīn, main svayam jānanevālā hū̃n. svayam jānanevālā gnāyak hū̃n. yah bāharakā gnāt ho use jānanevālā main, aise nahī̃n. main svayam jānanevālā hū̃n. ab tak bachapanase lekar abhī tak jo-jo bhāv āye, usako svayam jānanevālā (hūn̐), vah jānanevālā vaisā hī hai. vah sab paryāyen chalī gayī, sab saṅkalpa-vikalpa chale gaye to bhī jānanevālā to vaisā hī hai. jānanevālā svayam sab lakṣhyamen le sakatā hai.

gurudevake pās kyā sunā? kyā jignāsā, kyā bhāvanā (thī)? vah sab jānanevālā to jānanevālā hī hai. svayam jo jānanevālā hai, vah jānanevālā main hū̃n. yah gnāt hotā hai vah main, aise nahī̃n. svayam jānanevālā svayam gnāyak svataḥsiddha merī shakti jānanekī anādiananta hai. gneyako jānatā hūn̐, isaliye jānanevālā, aise nahī̃n. main svayam jānanevālā hī hū̃n. svayam jānanevālā chaitanyashakti, merī svayam jānanekī shakti hai, svayam jānanevālā hū̃n. aise gnānalakṣhaṇase svayaṅko (pahachānanā). ek gnānalakṣhaṇ dvārā pūrā gnāyak pakaḍ letā hai. gnānalakṣhaṇase ek guṇ jānatā hai, aisā nahīn, parantu svayam gnāyak hū̃n. svayam pūrṇa jānanevālā dravya, main jānanevālā hī hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah svayam gnānadashā parase yah svayam meremense utpanna huyī hai aur main aisī vastu hūn̐, vahān̐ tak usakā gnān chalā jātā hai?

samādhānaḥ- vahān̐ chalā jātā hai. main svayam gnāyak vastu hī hū̃n. ek jānanevālā akhaṇḍa gnāyak jānanevālā hī hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānalakṣhaṇase gnāt hotā hai, phir dūsare jo lakṣhaṇ kahanemen āte hain ki main ānandamay hūn̐, main nirvikalpa hūn̐, akhaṇḍa hūn̐, main dhruv hūn̐, paripūrṇa hūn̐, to yah sab lakṣhaṇ use kab pramāṇarūpase khyālamen āte hain?

samādhānaḥ- gnāyakalakṣhaṇ tattva hū̃n. jo tattva ho, vah pūrṇa hī hotā hai. tattva aisā koī adhūrā nahīn hotā. main paripūrṇa hū̃n. usamen use sab sāthamen samajhamen ā jātā

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hai. jo svayam sukhako ichchhatā hai, vah sukh kahīn bāhar nahīn hai. sukhasvarūp main hū̃n. yah sab use ā jātā hai. main sukhasvarūp hūn̐, shāntisvarūp hū̃n. yah vikalpa hai vah sab ākulatā hai. main nirvikalpa tattva hū̃n.

jo shāstramen kahā hai, aise nahīn, apitu main svayam nirvikalpa tattva hū̃n. vikalpa binākī jo shānti ho, is vikalpakī jālamen ākulatā hai, sab ākulatāse bhinna main gnāyak hū̃n. ākulatā binā nirākulasvarūp aise nahīn, parantu mujhamen ānanda guṇ hai. ānanda guṇ use dikhāī nahīn detā. vah to use amuk prakārase nakkī karatā hai. gnānalakṣhaṇ aisā hai ki vah use grahaṇ ho sakatā hai. isaliye ātmāko gnānase jānanā, aisā kahanekā kāraṇ vahī hai. ānanda use dikhāī nahīn detā. ākulatā binākā main nirākul, aisā use grahaṇ ho sakatā hai. parantu main ānanda lakṣhaṇ hūn̐, vah ānanda use dikhatā nahī̃n. to bhī vah amuk prakārase yathārtha pramāṇase, yathārtha gnānase jān sakatā hai. sachche gnānase nakkī kar sakatā hai. parantu gnānalakṣhaṇ to aisā hai ki usake anubhavamen ā sake aisā hai. anubhav yānī svānubhūtikā anubhav nahīn, parantu gnānalakṣhaṇ use gnāt ho sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- use prasiddha hai. apane vedanamen..

samādhānaḥ- gnānalakṣhaṇ vedanamen prasiddha hai aur ānanda use vedanamen us vakta anubhavamen nahīn ātā hai. lekin amuk prakārakī yuktiyonse nakkī (karatā hai). lekin vah aisā nakkī kar sakatā hai ki usamen pharka nahīn paḍatā. aisā vah nakkī kar sakatā hai. main paripūrṇa hūn̐, vah sab yukti dvārā, sarva prakārase nakkī kar sakatā hai. jo vastu ho, vah svataḥsiddha (hotī hai), vah adhūrī hotī nahī̃n. usakā kabhī nāsh ho to use vastu hī nahīn kahate. vastu ho vah paripūrṇa gnānalakṣhaṇase bharapūr hai. usakā kabhī ghāt nahīn hotā. to use vastu kahen? yadi vastukā nāsh hotā ho to. pūrṇa na ho vah vastu hī nahīn hai. yathārtha prakārase nakkī kar sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jahān̐ gnānamay hūn̐, aisā bhāv khyālamen āye to sāthamen use apanī akhaṇḍatā, paripūrṇatā ādi sab..

samādhānaḥ- vah sab yuktise nakkī kare, sachchī pratīt kar sakatā hai. lekin mukhya usamen gnān hai. vah use prasiddhimen ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jise anubhav ho gayā, use bhī jab-jab punaḥ nirvikalpatā utpanna hotī hai, us vakta bhī usī lakṣhaṇase phirase hotā hogā? yā usamense koī bhī lakṣhaṇ dvārā (anubhav hotā hai)?

samādhānaḥ- vah to gnāyakakā astitva grahaṇ kiyā, vah to use sahaj hai. use koī vichārakī kalpanā nahīn karanī paḍatī ki main ānanda hūn̐ yā akhaṇḍa hū̃n. use

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to jo apanā gnāyak astitva grahaṇ kiyā so kiyā hai. use sahaj dhārārūp hai. use sahaj bhedagnānakī dhārāmen sahaj gnātākī dhārā vartatī hai. usamense use nirvikalpa svānubhūtikī dashā sahaj pariṇatirūp hotī hai. aur usakī gnāyakakī dhārā aise hī sahaj (chalatī hai). use vikalpase raṭanā nahīn paḍatā ki main yah gnāyak hūn̐ yā ānanda hūn̐ yā paripūrṇa hūn̐, vah to use gnāyakakī dhārā vedanarūp usakī amuk dashā anusār pariṇamatā hai, usamen sahaj rahatā hai. use raṭan nahīn karanā paḍatā.

mumukṣhuḥ- usakī samvedanashaktimen hī vah sab gnāt hone lagatā hai athavā vedan hone lagatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, vedan hone lagatā hai. svānubhūtikā ānanda vah ek alag bāt hai, parantu usakī bīchavālī dashāmen savikalpatāmen bhī use vedanamen gnāyakakā vedan amuk anshamen rahatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- .. unhen to shrutakī labdhi (thī). shrutakevalī koī dūsarī apekṣhāse gurudevako kahā thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- shrutakā bhāv..

samādhānaḥ- shrutakā bhāv pragaṭ huā. samyagdarshanapūrvak unhen shrutakī visheṣhatā thī. us apekṣhāse. .. shrutakevalī vah to unhen amuk prakārakā shrut...

samādhānaḥ- .. gurudevakā jitanā karen utanā kam hī hai. bhaktoṅko jo bhāv āte hain, vah gurudevako kahate haĩn. unhen shrutakī labdhi koī apūrva thī. bhāvase shrutakevalī kahate haĩn. bhadrabāhū shrutakevalī the vah dūsarī apekṣhā hai. gurudevamen to koī atishayatāyukta shrutagnān thā. tīrthaṅkarakā dravya thā to unakā prabhāvanā uday alag thā, unakī vāṇī atishayatāyukta thī, unakā ātmā alag thā, sab alag thā. gurudevako jitanī upamā den, utanī kam hī haĩn. bhadrabāhusvāmī..

mumukṣhuḥ- naumvī gāthāmen paribhāṣhā karate hain, shrutase jo ātmāko jāne...

samādhānaḥ- unakī shrutagnānakī dhārā... hajāron jīvoṅko .. kiyā.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. usakī paribhāṣhā karate samay kahā thā ki, jo bhāvashrutagnānase keval ātmākā anubhav kare vah shrutakevalī hai. aisā r̥uṣhishvaro tathā tīrthaṅkaronne ghoṣhaṇā kī hai. aur aise pravachanasārakī 33vīn gāthā. isase yah siddha hotā hai ki svānubhūti pariṇat param pūjya gurudev tathā pūjya bahinashrī, svayaṅke bhāvashrutagnānase keval ātmānubhavayukta honese ham mumukṣhu samājake mahān upakārī donon mahātmā shrutakevalī haĩn. kyoṅki r̥uṣhishvaronnen unhen shrutakevalī kahā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sogānījīke bād pravāh kuchh manda ho gayā hai, aisā lagatā hai. kālakā

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kāraṇ hogā?

samādhānaḥ- koī pravāh manda nahīn paḍā hai. gurudevake pratāpase pravāh chalatā hī hai. kuchh manda nahīn paḍā. gurudevakā prabhāv chāron or vartatā hai. ātmā kaise prāpta ho? ātmā kaise prāpta ho? pūre hindustānamen ho gayā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- abhī to aur bhī baḍhegā.

samādhānaḥ- kuchh manda nahīn huā hai. gurudevakā prabhāv chāron or gun̐j rahā hai. gurudevane kitane jīvoṅko jāgr̥ut kar diye haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. mandatā nahīn āyī hai, parantu prāptimen mandatā ā gayī. samādhānaḥ- kuchh mandatā nahīn āyī hai. ātmākī or hī kaise prāpta ho? kaise prāpta ho? kitane hī jīv jāgr̥ut ho gaye haĩn. kriyāmen dharma mānate the, to ab ātmā.. ātmā.. chāron or hindībhāṣhī kṣhetramen sab or ho gayā hai. adhyātmakā prem chāron or ho gayā hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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