Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 130.

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બાહ્ય પદાર્થનો આશ્રય છૂટે અને અંદરમાં મહિમા આવે પછી ‘હું જ્ઞાન છું’ એમ પકડવાની શું રીત છે? (પ્રશ્નનો સારાંશ)    0   Play
bāhya padārthano āshray chhūṭe ane andaramān mahimā āve pachhī ‘hun gnān chhun’ em pakaḍavānī shun rīt chhe? (prashnano sārānsh)    0   Play

‘‘જાણનાર તે જ હું છું’’ તેના સંબંધી પ્રશ્ન    3:00   Play
‘‘jāṇanār te ja hun chhun’’ tenā sambandhī prashna    3:00   Play

આત્માને ઓળખવા માટે ગુરુનું કે કોઈ અન્યનું અવલંબન તો જોઈએ ને?    6:00   Play
ātmāne oḷakhavā māṭe gurunun ke koī anyanun avalamban to joīe ne?    6:00   Play

ભેદજ્ઞાનની પ્રક્રિયાનો અભ્યાસ કરે તો માર્ગ સરળપણે પ્રાપ્ત થાય....    8:35   Play
bhedagnānanī prakriyāno abhyās kare to mārga saraḷapaṇe prāpta thāy....    8:35   Play

જ્ઞાન અને રાગ જુદા તેની પ્રકૃતિ પરથી ઓળખાઈ જાય છે પછી તેને જ્ઞાન જુદા અને રાગ જુદા તેમ કરવું પડે છે?    10:40   Play
gnān ane rāg judā tenī prakr̥iti parathī oḷakhāī jāy chhe pachhī tene gnān judā ane rāg judā tem karavun paḍe chhe?    10:40   Play

(સમયસાર ગાથા ૧૭-૧૮) અનુભૂતિ સ્વરૂપ આત્મા આબાલ-ગોપાલ દરેક જીવને તેની દરેક દશામાં હોય છે.    16:10   Play
(samayasār gāthā 17-18) anubhūti svarūp ātmā ābāl-gopāl darek jīvane tenī darek dashāmān hoy chhe.    16:10   Play

આત્માને ઓળખવા માટે પુરુષાર્થ કેવી રીતે કરવો?    18:10   Play
ātmāne oḷakhavā māṭe puruṣhārtha kevī rīte karavo?    18:10   Play

samādhānaḥ- ... samyagdarshan to ātmākī svānubhūti hai, puruṣhārtha kare to hotā hai. bhedagnān karake ātmāko prāpta kare to hotā hai, bhedagnān prāpta kare to hotā hai. ātmā chaitanya shāshvat dravya hai, us par dr̥uṣhṭi karake, usakā gnān karake, usamen līnatā karake bārambār kare to hotā hai. bāhar jo upayog dauḍ jātā hai, upayogako svasanmukh kare. pahale dr̥uṣhṭi kare. upayogako bārambār chaitanyakī or lāye to vikalpa chhūṭakar svānubhūti hotī hai. usakī jignāsā, usakī mahimā, bārambār usakī lagan lage to ho sakatā hai.

... yahī hai, main ātmā hī hū̃n. in sabase bhinna chaitanya hai. yah sharīrādi paradravya (hai), vibhāvabhāv ātmākā svabhāv nahīn hai, main usase bhinna hū̃n. antaramense nishchay-nakkī karake, us or pariṇati (kare), bārambār bhedagnānakā abhyās kare to vikalpa ṭūṭakar svānubhūti hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- yah nakkī karaneke liye bāhya padāthāke āshcharyako banda kare aur andaramen chaitanya hai usakī mahimā pahale to bāharase ūpar-ūparase āye, khyālamen āye ki andar aisī ek chīj hai ki jo mere sukhake liye atyant upayogī hai aur vahī mujhe prāpta karane yogya hai. aisā vichār, bhāvanā honeke bād, main gnān hūn̐, yah use antar samvedanamen pakaḍanekī paddhati kaisī hai?

samādhānaḥ- usakā svabhāv pahachānakar pakaḍe. bāhya dr̥uṣhṭi jātī hai. main chaitanya hūn̐, usakā svabhāv pahachān le ki main yah jo gnān hai-gnāyak main hū̃n. bāhar jānatā hūn̐ isaliye nahīn, parantu main antar svayam gnāyak hū̃n. gnāyak svabhāv hī merā hai, aise svayam apaneāpako apane svabhāvase pahachāne. usakā svabhāv asādhāraṇ gnāyak svabhāv hai, use svabhāvase grahaṇ kare. svabhāv aisā visheṣh guṇ hai ki jo grahaṇ hotā hai. us guṇ dvārā pūrā gnāyak grahaṇ kar le. jo apanā svabhāv ho, vah sukharūp hī hotā hai. use svayam apanī antar dr̥uṣhṭise grahaṇ kare. antarakī or jāya. vah svayam hī hai, koī gupta nahīn hai, anya nahīn hai ki jise khojane jānā paḍe, svayam hī hai, svayaṅko svabhāv dvārā pahachān le.

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mumukṣhuḥ- isake pahale āpane kahā thā, jab pūchhā thā ki par dikhatā hai parantu svayam nahīn dikhāī nahīn detā, tab āpane kahā thā ki vah svayam hī hai. arthāt jo dekhanā hotā hai, vah svayam hī honeke bāvajūd mānon anya dikhāī detā hai, aisā use abhyās rahā karatā hai, isaliye svayam svayaṅko dekhatā nahīn, aisī paristhiti vahān̐ utpanna ho jātī hai. vahān̐ use avalokan kālamen usakī jāgr̥uti honī chāhiye ki yah dekhanevālā main hūn̐, is tarah svayaṅko apaneāp bhāsit honā chāhiye. to usamen usakā sattva kaisā hai? usakī hayātī kaisī hai? usakī sātatyatā kaisī hai? vah sab use khyālamen āne lage. to us parase svayaṅkā astitva grahaṇ ho.

samādhānaḥ- main dekhanevāleko hī dekhatā hūn̐, shāstramen ātā hai nā? dekhanevālā hī main hūn̐, dekhanevāle dvārā hī dekhatā hū̃n. main svayam dekhanevālā hī hūn̐, main svayam jānanevālā hī hū̃n. anyako dekhanevālā hūn̐, aise nahīn, main svayam dekhanevālā hū̃n. main darshan svabhāvase bharapūr hūn̐, main gnānasvabhāvase bharapūr hū̃n. uṣhṇatā, dūsareko uṣhṇa karatī hai isaliye agni uṣhṇa hai, aisā nahīn, svayam uṣhṇatāse bharī huyī agni hī hai. barpha dūsareko ṭhaṇḍā kare isaliye barpha ṭhaṇḍā hai aisā nahīn, svayam barphakā svabhāv ṭhaṇḍā hai. aise main svayam dūsareko dekhūn̐ aur jānūn̐ isaliye main jānanevālā hūn̐, aisā nahīn, parantu main svayam jānanevālā hī hū̃n. main jānanevālā ananta shaktise bharapūr jānanevālā hū̃n. usamen koī ansh aisā nahīn hai ki jo nahīn jānatā. svayam gnāyak shaktise bharā huā, svayam dekhanekī shaktise bharā huā, svayam vastu svataḥsiddha anādiananta vastu hū̃n. jise kisīne banāyī nahīn hai, vah svayam hai.

jaise yah parapadārtha jaḍ ādi svayam padārtha hai, vaise main ek chaitanya svayam jānanevālā svayansiddha vastu jānanatattva, jānanaguṇase, jānanasvabhāvase bharā hū̃n. jānanevālemen shānti, jānanevālemen ānanda, jānanevālemen ananta guṇ bhare haĩn. ek uṣhṇatā dekho to jaḍ padārtha (hai), usamen dūsare ananta guṇ haĩn. vaise ek svayam jānanevālemen dūsare ananta guṇ haĩn. parantu vah jānanasvabhāv aisā hai ki vah anantatāse bharā svayam jānanevālā hai. vah svayam jānanevāleko jān lenā. dūsareko jāne isaliye main jānanevālā, dūsareko dekhatā hai isaliye main dekhanevālā, aisā nahīn, main svayam jānanevālā, svayam dekhanevālā hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- arthāt usakā svayaṅkā antaraṅg hī aisī pukār karatā hai ki main jānanevālā hūn̐, is tarah svayam apaneāpase khyālamen ātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- svayam apaneāpase andar svayam jānanevālā, svayam dekhanevālā (hai). svayansiddha astitva apanā us tarah grahaṇ kar letā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gurukā avalamban to chāhiye na? ātmākī ... pahale gurukā avalamban

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to chāhiye na?

samādhānaḥ- dev-guru-shāstra mārga darshāte haĩn. gurudev mārga darshāye ki vastu yah hai, tū use pahachāna. phir karanā svayaṅko hai. upādān puruṣhārtha svayaṅko karanā hai. gurudev mārga batāye, parantu mārga (svayaṅko) grahaṇ karanā hai. dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimā use sāthamen hotī hai. parantu puruṣhārtha svayaṅko karanā paḍatā hai. gurune kyā batāyā hai? gurune kaisā mārga batāyā hai? ki ātmā sarvase bhinna tū nirvikalpa tattva anādiananta hai, aisā jo gurudevane batāyā, use grahaṇ svayaṅko karanā paḍatā hai.

anādi kālakā anajānā mārga gurudevane spaṣhṭa karake batāyā hai. vah svayam grahaṇ karanā hai. isaliye usamen gurukā avalamban ā jātā hai ki gurune jo mārga batāyā vah yathārtha hai. parantu mujhe kaise samajhamen āye, aise puruṣhārtha karake svayam svayanse jānatā hai. anādi kālakā anajānā mārga hai. anādi kālase yā to jinendra devakā vākya yā koī gurukā vākya sākṣhāt use shravaṇ ho, tab use antaramen upādān jāgr̥ut ho aur deshanālabdhi pragaṭ ho, aisā upādān-nimittakā sambandha hai, lekin vah grahaṇ svayanse hotā hai, koī use kar nahīn detā, svayanse hotā hai. upādān-nimittakā aisā sambandha hai. parantu koī kar nahīn detā, svayaṅke dvārā hotā hai, usamen nimitta sāthamen hotā hai. abhī yah mārga gurudevake pratāpase, gurudevane mārga batāyā aur yah mārga bahut logoṅko antaramen jignāsāvr̥utti, mahimā gurudevake pratāpase huā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- yah bāt hī kahān̐ thī.

samādhānaḥ- bāt hī kahān̐ thī. aisā prakār hai, upādān-nimittakā aisā svabhāv hai. sākṣhāt vāṇī shravaṇ hotī hai, anādi kāl huā. shāstramen kahā hai, lekin chaitanya sākṣhāt guru evan dev mile, tab antar upādān-nimittakā sambandha hotā hai. koī shāstramense svayam jāne ki shāstramen... isamen ātā hai na? gurune usakā rahasya batāyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. isī prakriyākā abhyās jaise visheṣh-visheṣh gaharāīse ho, vaisā use sahajarūpase..

samādhānaḥ- antaramen abhyās kare, main svayam gnāyak hū̃n. yah sab bhāv dikhate hain, vah main nahīn hū̃n. main svayam gnāyak sabase bhinna tattva, nirālā tattva hūn̐, is tarah bārambār usakā abhyās kare, bārambār antarase abhyās kare. apane astitvako (grahaṇ kare). use shūnyatārūp mātra nahīn, parantu mahimāse (grahaṇ kare). main anādiananta sirpha nirmūlya tattva hūn̐, aise nahī̃n. ananta shaktise bharapūr aisī chaitanyashakti, chaitanya astitva so main hūn̐, aise use mahimā ātī hai. parapadārthakī mahimā chhūṭ jātī hai. is prakār vah mahimāpūrvak abhyās karatā hai to āge baḍhatā hai. vikalpa chhūṭakar main shūnya ho jātā hūn̐, aise nahī̃n.

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main ananta shaktionse bharapūr hū̃n. yah vikalpa merā svabhāv nahīn hai. main nirvikalpa tattva hūn̐, parantu anantatāse bharapūr hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- kuchh hūn̐, parantu yahī main hūn̐, aisā use bhāsit honā chāhiye.

samādhānaḥ- kuchh hūn̐, aisā nahīn, yahī hū̃n. main yah gnāyak hū̃n. ananta mahimāse bharapūr hū̃n. aisī use andarase mahimā ātī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- svayaṅkī sattā, jaise svatantrarūpase rah sake aisī (sattā) svayaṅko mālūm paḍe aur usake ādhārase us rūp kāyam jīvit rahanevālā ho..

samādhānaḥ- svayam apanī chaitanyasattāse jīnevālā hai. parasattāse main jīnevālā nahīn hū̃n. chaitanyakī sattā, merī gnāyakasattā, aisī chaitanyasattāmen hī merā astitva, usamen hī pariṇati, us rūp hī ṭikanevālā main anādiananta vastu hū̃n. anādiananta shāshvat vastu hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnān bhinna aur rāg bhinna, vah to pahale rāgakī prakr̥iti pahachānamen ā jātī hai, phir to gnānakī prakr̥iti (-svabhāv)kī pahachān honese us or hī usakā jhukāv rahatā hai. phir use gnān bhinna aur rāg bhinna, aisā karanekī jarūrat paḍatī hai?

samādhānaḥ- gnān bhinna aur rāg bhinna, donon sāthamen hī pahachāne jāte haĩn. jise yathārtha pahachān hotī hai, use yah gnān bhinna aur rāg bhinna, phir to use sahaj hotā hai. jisakī sahaj dashā hotī hai, use gnān bhinna aur rāg bhinna sahaj use gnātādhārā vartatī rahatī hai. udayadhārā aur gnānadhārā bhinna hai. jise svānubhūti honeke bād jo bhedagnānakī dhārā vartatī hai, usamen karanekī jarūrat nahīn paḍatī, sahaj bhedagnān chalatā hī rahatā hai. jo-jo uday, abhī asthiratā hai tabatak jo vikalpa utpanna ho, usake sāth main gnāyak hūn̐, aisī gnātākī dhārā use sahaj rahatī hai. karanekī jarūrat nahīn paḍatī. lekin use sahaj rahatā hai ki yah bhinna hai aur main bhinna hū̃n. main chaitanyatattva bhinna hūn̐, gnāyak bhinna hūn̐ aur yah bhinna hai. puruṣhārthakī mandatāse usamen alpa juḍatā hai, nahīn juḍatā ho to vītarāgatā ho jāya. alpa juḍatā hai, parantu use ekadam gnāyakakī dr̥uḍhatā rahatī hai ki main bhinna hū̃n. main chaitanyatattva bhinna hū̃n. yah tattva main nahīn hū̃n. yah to vibhāvabhāv hai. aisī sahaj dhārā, bhedagnānakī dhārā vartatī hī rahatī hai. karanekī jarūrat nahīn paḍatī. aise use sahaj bhinna (rahatī hai).

bhedagnānakī tīvratā rahā karatī hai. jaise-jaise dashā baḍhatī jātī hai, munidashā ātī hai to adhik tīvrat hotī jātī hai. gnāyakakī dhārā, dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi ādi sab balavān hote-hote munidashāmen ugratā hotī jātī hai. jab tak vītarāgatā pūrṇa nahīn ho jātī,

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kevalagnān (nahīn ho jātā), tab tak rahā karatī hai. use bhedagnānakī dhārā samyagdarshanamen amuk prakārase (hotī hai), bādamen āshiṅk svarūp līnatā baḍhatī jāy, vaise-vaise usakī ugratā baḍhatī jātī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- arthāt svarūpakā aham bhāv baḍhatā jāy aur rāgādi athavā vikalpādikī upekṣhā use sahajapane rahe, aisī usakī sthiti (hotī hai)?

samādhānaḥ- gnāyak orakī pariṇatikī dr̥uḍhatā, main gnāyak hūn̐ aur yah bhedagnānakī ugratā baḍhatī jātī hai. svarūp līnatākī visheṣhatā aur asthiratākī alpatā hotī jātī hai. main yah chaitanya hūn̐, aham bhāv yānī main yah chaitanya hūn̐, chaitanyakī visheṣh pariṇati, chaitanya orakī (ugra hotī hai aur) vibhāv orakī pariṇati alpa hotī jātī hai. bhedagnānakī dhārā (chalatī hai). use svānubhūti bhī munidashāmen antarmuhūrta-antarmuhūrtamen baḍhatī jātī hai. aisā karate-karate jab vah shreṇi lagātā hai, tab kevalagnān prāpta hotā hai. tab to abuddhipūrvak ho jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- astitvakī khumarī bahut ā jātī hogī ki ab main kisī bhī vastuke binā rah sakūn̐ aisā padārtha hū̃n. aise bhāvakā vedan to use hotā hogā?

samādhānaḥ- jahān̐ tattvakī dr̥uṣhṭi huyī, vahān̐ kisī bhāvake binā ṭik sake, svataḥsiddha vastu koī padārthake binā main ṭikanevālā hūn̐, jahān̐ use dravyakī pratīt hotī hai, us pratītamen to pūrā bal sāthamen ātā hai. pratīt to use dr̥uḍh hī hai. koī padārthake āshrayase main ṭikūn̐ aisā tattva nahīn hūn̐, main svayam ṭikanevālā, svayam vastu hī hū̃n. aisī pratīt to use pratham samyagdarshanamen ā jātī hai. bādamen to use līnatā baḍhatī jātī hai, svarūpakā vedan baḍhatā jātā hai. svānubhūti baḍhatī jātī hai aur bīchamen savikalpa dashāmen use ānshik gnāyakakī dhārā, līnatā, shāntikā vedan vah sab baḍhatā jātā hai.

apanā astitva, main svayam ṭikanevālā hūn̐, yah to use pratītamen ā gayā hai. parantu svarūpamen hī rahūn̐, bāhar nahīn jāūn̐. svarūpamen hī ānanda, svarūpamen hī shānti, svarūpase bāhar jānā use mushkil lage, aisī usakī dashā baḍhatī jātī hai. alpa asthiratāke kāraṇ jātā hai, parantu usakī ugratā hotī jātī hai. bhedagnānakī dhārā, dravyakī pratītikā bal baḍhatā jātā hai. līnatā visheṣh baḍhatī jātī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- nij svabhāvakī or muḍatā ho us prakārakī khaṭak kahanekā vahān̐ āshay hai?

samādhānaḥ- svādhyāy, manan, chintavan ādi sabakā hetu kyā hai? mujhe ātmākā svarūp pragaṭ karanā hai, mujhe ātmāko pahachānanā hai. svādhyāyake khātir svādhyāy yā manan, chintavan nahīn, parantu isakā hetu kyā hai? dhyey ek chaitanya orakā hai. mujhe chaitanya svabhāv pragaṭ karanā hai. sirpha ek shubhabhāvake liye svādhyāy, manan nahīn, parantu

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isakā hetu mujhe chaitanya kaise prāpta ho, aisī khaṭak honī chāhiye. merā svabhāv kaise pahachānūn̐, mujhe bhedagnān kaise pragaṭ ho? mere chaitanyadravyakā astitva, main chaitanya hūn̐, yah mujhe kaise grahaṇ ho? aisī khaṭak honī chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. vah bhāv pratyek jīvoṅko, prati samay usakī dashāmen hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- vah anubhūti arthāt svānubhūtikī apekṣhā nahīn hai. vah to ābālagopālako svayaṅkā vedan ho rahā hai arthāt vah gnānasvabhāv svayam use anubhavamen ā rahā hai. vah jāne to chaitanyadravya svayam apane gnānasvabhāvase pahachānamen āye us prakārase anubhavamen ā rahā hai. kyoṅki vah jānanevālā dravya hai. vah jānanevālā dravya gnāt ho rahā hai, svayam dekhe to. yathārtharūpase gnāt ho rahā hai, aise nahīn, parantu usakā jānanasvabhāv sabako anubhavamen ā sake aisā hai, anubhavamen ā rahā hai. jaḍatā anubhavamen nahīn ātī. jaḍatārūp ātmā nahīn hai, parantu chaitanyarūp jānanevālā sabako gnāt ho rahā hai ki yah vikalpa hai, yah par hai, yah yah hai, yah hai, aisā vichār kare to jānanevālā anubhūtimen sabako ā rahā hai, parantu svayam lakṣhya dekar yathārthatayā jānatā nahīn hai.

svayam apane svabhāvamen gnānarūpase anubhavamen ā rahā hai. visheṣh svabhāv hai gnāyak jānanasvarūpa. ... sabako usakī chaitanyatā anubhavamen ā rahī hai. jānanatattva hai vah anubhavamen āye aisā hai. ābālagopāl sabako anubhavamen ā rahā hai. yathārthapane nahīn, parantu usake svabhāvarūpase anubhavamen ā rahā hai. jaise yah jaḍ varṇa, gandha, ras, sparsha ādi jisamen jaḍatā dikhatī hai, vaise usamen chaitanyatā dikhatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- chaitanyatā itanī spaṣhṭa hai ki use pahachānanī ho to pahachānī jāy itanī spaṣhṭa hai.

samādhānaḥ- pahachānī jāy aisī chaitanyatā spaṣhṭarūpase hai. svayam pahachānatā nahīn hai. aisī chaitanyatā spaṣhṭa hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. usake liye puruṣhārtha kyā karanā? pahachānaneke liye puruṣhārtha kaise karanā? kyā karanā?

samādhānaḥ- bārambār vichār karanā, us prakārakā svādhyāy, manan karanā. antaramen jignāsā karanī, mahimā karanī ki ātmā kaisā apūrva hogā? mujhe kaise pragaṭ ho? vibhāvakī mahimā gauṇ karake svabhāvakī mahimā pragaṭ karanī. main chaitanya hūn̐, aisā abhyās bārambār karanā. chaitanyasvabhāvakā ātā hai na? samatā, ramatā, ūrdhvatā, gnāyakatā, sukhabhās, vedakatā, chaitanyatā ye sab jīvavilāsa. aise chaitanya sabako khyālamen ā sake aisā hai. gnāyakatā, sukhabhāsa. gnāyakatā hai, samatā, ramatā-ramya svabhāv hai, vedakatā-vedanamen ātā

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hūn̐, chaitanyatā ye sab jīvavilāsa. vah chaitanyatā aisī hai ki sabako grahaṇ ho aisī hai. parantu svayam grahaṇ nahīn karatā hai. puruṣhārtha kare to grahaṇ hotā hai. parantu anādise parake abhyāsamen paḍā hai isaliye grahaṇ nahīn hotā. svayaṅkī orakā abhyās kare to apane samīp hī hai, dūr nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- shuddha buddha chaitanyaghan svayam jyoti sukhadhām, bījun kahīe keṭalun kar vichār to pāma. vichār karanekā abhī bhān nahīn hai, bol diyā.

samādhānaḥ- shuddha buddha chaitanyaghan svayam jyoti sukhadhāma. shuddhatāse, buddhatāse chaitanyaghan hai. shuddha buddha chaitanyaghan svayam jyoti sukhadhām-sukhakā dhām hai. svayam jyoti sukhadhām, bījun kahīe keṭalun, kar vichār to pāma. vichār kar to prāpti hogī. svayam vichār nahīn karatā hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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