Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 140.

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પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીને પારિણામિક ભાવ બતલાયા હૈ ઉસકા આશ્રય કરના?    0   Play
pūjya gurudevashrīne pāriṇāmik bhāv batalāyā hai usakā āshray karanā?    0   Play

જો જાણનક્રિયામેં આત્મા જાનનેમેં આતા હૈ વહ જાનનક્રિયા કિસકે આધારસે પ્રગટ હોતી હૈ?    1:45   Play
jo jāṇanakriyāmen ātmā jānanemen ātā hai vah jānanakriyā kisake ādhārase pragaṭ hotī hai?    1:45   Play

સ્વાનુભૂતિમેં મુખ્યતા સુખકી હૈ?    3:15   Play
svānubhūtimen mukhyatā sukhakī hai?    3:15   Play

માતાજી! જાનનક્રિયામેં આત્મા જાનને મેં આતા હૈ વહ જાનનક્રિયા વિભાવકો પરજ્ઞેયરૂસે જાનતી હૈ જૈસે દિવાર પૃથક્ હૈ વૈસે જાનતી હૈ ?    3:50   Play
mātājī! jānanakriyāmen ātmā jānane men ātā hai vah jānanakriyā vibhāvako paragneyarūse jānatī hai jaise divār pr̥uthak hai vaise jānatī hai ?    3:50   Play

કભી કહનેમેં આતા હૈ કિ વેદનમેં આયે વહ આત્મા ઔર કભી ત્રિકાલી દ્રવ્ય વહ આત્મા કુછ સમઝમેં નહીં આતા?    7:15   Play
kabhī kahanemen ātā hai ki vedanamen āye vah ātmā aur kabhī trikālī dravya vah ātmā kuchh samajhamen nahīn ātā?    7:15   Play

સમ્યગ્દર્શન-જ્ઞાન-ચારિત્ર મોક્ષમાર્ગ હૈ, જ્ઞાનકે બાદ ચારિત્ર...?    8:10   Play
samyagdarshan-gnān-chāritra mokṣhamārga hai, gnānake bād chāritra...?    8:10   Play

કાનજીસ્વામીકો કબ માલૂમ હુઆ કિ વહ મોક્ષગામી હૈ?    9:10   Play
kānajīsvāmīko kab mālūm huā ki vah mokṣhagāmī hai?    9:10   Play

એક જગહ કહનેમેં આતા હૈ કિ પર્યાય અપને ષટ્કારકસે ઉત્પન્ન હોતી હૈ? ઔર એક જગહ કહનેમેં આતા હૈ કિ પર્યાય દ્રવ્યકે આધારસે ઉત્પન્ન હોતી હૈ ઉન દો નિર્ણયમેં કૌનસા નિર્ણય જોરદાર હૈ કિ જિસસે હમ આત્માકા લક્ષ કર સકે ?    13:45   Play
ek jagah kahanemen ātā hai ki paryāy apane ṣhaṭkārakase utpanna hotī hai? aur ek jagah kahanemen ātā hai ki paryāy dravyake ādhārase utpanna hotī hai un do nirṇayamen kaunasā nirṇay joradār hai ki jisase ham ātmākā lakṣha kar sake ?    13:45   Play

સિદ્ધ ભગવાન કો અવ્યાબાધ આનંદ હુઆ વૈસા આનંદ ચૌથે ગુણસ્થાનમેં હોતા હૈ?    17:35   Play
siddha bhagavān ko avyābādh ānand huā vaisā ānand chauthe guṇasthānamen hotā hai?    17:35   Play

samādhānaḥ- .. bhedagnān karanā, mahimā karanī. gnāyakamen sab bharapūr bharā hai, usako pahachānanā. bāharamen kuchh nahīn hai, bhītaramen sab kuchh hai. gnāyak ananta guṇase bharapūr ananta- ananta khajānā, ananta shaktiyān̐ gnāyakamen bharī hai. us par dr̥uṣhṭi karanese, gnān karanese, pariṇatikī līnatā karanā vahī karanā hai. vahī jīvanakā kartavya hai. shāstra abhyās, tattva vichār ye sab karake apane ātmāko pīchhānanā. dhyey vah rakhanā, vahī karanekā. āchāryadevakī kyā bāt! gurudevane upakār kiyā hai, apūrva mārga batāyā. sab shāstrake rahasya gurudevane khulle kiye haĩn. pāriṇāmikabhāv ādi sabakā svarūp gurudevane batāyā hai. anādiananta ātmā pāriṇāmikabhāv svarūp hai, usamen gnāyakatā bharī hai. gnāyakatā bhī pāriṇāmikabhāvasvarūp (hai).

anādiananta .. svarūp shuddhātmā, pāriṇāmikabhāvasvarūp, vahī lakṣhyamen lene yogya, vah pūjanīy aur mahimāyogya svarūp hai. jisane ātmāke svarūpako pragaṭ kiyā hai, vah dev-guru-shāstra bhī pūjanīy hai. aur shubhabhāvamen dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimā, bhītaramen gnāyak bhagavān paramapāriṇāmikabhāvasvarūp pūjanīy hai, usako pahachānanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! jis jānanakriyāmen ātmā jānanemen ātī hai, vah jānanakriyā kisake ādhārase pragaṭ hotī hai?

samādhānaḥ- vah jānanakriyā ātmāke-gnāyak-gnātāke-ādhārase jānanakri/yā hotī hai, koī parake ādhārase nahīn hotī hai. jo gnāyak gnātā hai, is gnātāmense gnānakī kriyā pragaṭ hotī hai. jānanakriyā. ananta kālase kartr̥utvabuddhi, parakā main kartā hūn̐, par merā kārya hai, vibhāvakā kartā hū̃n. svabhāvakā kartā hove, gnāyakatā pragaṭ hove to usamen jānan kriyā pragaṭ hotī hai. main jānanevālā ātmā hū̃n. usakī jānanakriyā, jānanakriyārūp pariṇati ātmā gnāyakake ādhārase pragaṭ hotī hai. kartr̥utvabuddhi... asthiratā alpa rahatī hai, usakī kartr̥utvabuddhi svāmītvabuddhi chhūṭ jātī hai aur gnāyakatā pragaṭ hotī hai. gnātādhārā jānanakriyā pragaṭ hotī hai. svarūp pariṇati, svarūpakī svānubhūti pragaṭ hotī hai. usamen jānanakriyā nirantar chalatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- svānubhūtikī mukhyatā to sukhakī...?

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samādhānaḥ- usamen ānanda guṇakī mukhyatā hai. ananta guṇ, sarvaguṇānsh so samyagdarshana. sarva guṇakā ansh shuddharūp pariṇamit hotā hai. ānandakī mukhyatā hove to bhī anantāse bharā huā ātmā, usakā vedan usamen ā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! jis jānanakriyāmen ātmā jānanemen ātā hai, vah jānanakriyā vibhāvako kyā paragney tarīke jānatī hai? jaise bhīn̐t judī hai, aisā rāg judā hai, aise vah gnaptikriyā jānatī hai?

samādhānaḥ- bhīn̐t to paradravya hai. rāg to apanī vibhāvik pariṇati hai. vibhāv pariṇati hai, vah koī apekṣhāse par hai. aur vibhāvakī pariṇati apane puruṣhārthakī mandatāse hotī hai. isaliye vah to svabhāvabhed hai. vah main nahīn hū̃n. bhīn̐t main nahīn hūn̐, aise rāg main nahīn hū̃n. svabhāvakā bhed karatī hai. parantu rāg hotā hai apane puruṣhārthakī mandatāse. vah jānatā hai ki puruṣhārthakī mandatāse vah rāg hotā hai. parantu jānatā hai ki vah svabhāv nahīn hai, bhedagnān karatā hai. jaise yah par hai, vaise yah bhī par hai. parantu vah puruṣhārthakī mandatāse ashuddha pariṇati hotī hai, aise jānatā hai.

jisakā jaisā kārya hai, vaisā vah jānatā hai. jānanakriyā jānatī hai ki yah par hai, merā svabhāv nahīn hai. aisā gnānamen rahatā hai, mere puruṣhārthakī mandatāse (hotā hai). sampūrṇa vītarāgatā ho jāy, vītarāg dashā ho jāy to rāgakī kriyā bhī chhūṭ jātī hai. rāgakā main kartā nahīn hūn̐ to bhī asthiratā hotī hai, puruṣhārthakī kamajorīse hotī hai. vah koī kar nahīn detā hai. hotā hai, apanī mandatāse hotā hai, aise jānatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- hai to apanī paryāyamen pariṇaman, par antarmukh huā gnān usamen vyāpatā nahīn hai, avagāhan karatā nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- ... nahīn hai, isaliye usakā bhed karatā hai ki rāg main nahīn hūn̐, gnān main hūn̐, rāg main nahīn hūn̐, aisā bhed karatā hai. parantu jānatā hai, vah hotā hai puruṣhārthakī mandatāse. vah merā svabhāv nahīn hai, isaliye vah par hai. puruṣhārthakī mandatāse hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- antarmukh gnānamen anākul gnānakā svād aur ākulit vibhāvakā svād ek samayamen .... se bhāsit hotā hai? judā-judā.

samādhānaḥ- judā-judā. jitane anshamen anākulatā pragaṭ huyī, savikalpa dashāmen, svānubhūtike bād jo savikalpa dhārā rahatī hai, usamen ānshik anākulatā rahatī hai aur ākulatā, aspa asthiratā ākulatā bhī rahatī hai. donoṅko jānatā hai. donon vedan hote haĩn. anākulatā aur ākulatā. jitane anshamen nirākulatā hai, shāntikā vedan hai, usako shānti, samādhi, nirākulatā usako bhī vedan karatā hai aur alpa rāg hai usako

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bhī jānatā hai. donon-gnānadhārā aur udayadhārā ekasāth chalatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- kabhī kahate hain ki mātājī! vedanamen āye vahī ātmā hai, kabhī kahate hain, trikālī dravya vahī ātmā hai. vedanamen āye vah ātmā, dravya vah ātmā nahī̃n.

samādhānaḥ- vah to apekṣhāse kahate haĩn. vedanamen ātā hai isaliye vah jaisā hai vaisā vedanamen ātā hai. aise paryāy apekṣhāse (kahanemen ātā hai). bākī anādiananta jo gnāyak svabhāv hai vahī ātmā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vyavahāranayase kathanī kahī?

samādhānaḥ- paryāyakā vedan aur dravya (kahā vah) dūsarī apekṣhāse (kahanemen ātā hai) ki anādiananta ātmā hai vah dravya.

mumukṣhuḥ- samyagdarshan-gnān-chāritrāṇi mokṣhamārgaḥ matalab usamen ... kyā hono chāhiye?

samādhānaḥ- usamen ramaṇatā nahīn huī na. gnāyakakī dr̥uṣhṭi kī, gnān kī. usakī ramaṇatā, usakī chāritrakī dashā-vītarāgatā pragaṭ honī chāhiye. samyagdarshan pragaṭ huā, gnān kiyā bādamen ramaṇatā pragaṭ hotī hai, svarūp ramaṇatā. vītarāg dashā pragaṭ hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- samyagdarshan, samyaggnān aur samyakachāritra prāpta karaneke bād bhī yah jarūrī hai ki ...

samādhānaḥ- pūrṇa prāpti ho jāy bādamen to kuchh nahīn rahatā. bādamen nahīn rahatā. alpa chāritra hai, alpa svarūp ramaṇatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- abhī svāmījī to hamāre sāmane nahīn hai, lekin kahate hain ki jab koī tīrthaṅkar hon yā ... jaise ki ham log bolate hain ki kānajīsvāmī mokṣhagāmī jīv the. kānajīsvāmīko kaise mālūm paḍā ki vah mokṣhagāmī jīv hain? jaise apane purāṇamen āyā ki unhonne darpaṇake sāmane dekhā to unako apane pūrva bhavakā janma dikhāyī diyā. vaise kānajīsvāmīko kab anubhav huā ki vah mokṣhagāmī jīv hai?

samādhānaḥ- kānajīsvāmīko antar svānubhūti huī.

mumukṣhuḥ- magar kabhī usakā ek paryāyārthik samay ātā hai, abhī jaise koī bhī mokṣhagāmī jīv to ho sakatā hai, koī bhī ho sakatā hai, ham bhī ho sakate hain, ye bhī ho sakate hain, ye bhī ho sakate hain, magar unakā ek kāl āyagā-ak samay āyagā tabhī unako mahesūs hogā, nahīn to aise nahīn ho sakatā.

samādhānaḥ- puruṣhārtha karake usako svānubhūti hotī hai, vah jān sakatā hai ki main mokṣhagāmī hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- ye to nishchit hai ki kānajīsvāmī gurudev mokṣhagāmī jīv the. ye to

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nishchit hai. unake jāneke bād unhonne kabhī koī mārgadarshan diyā. unake jāneke bād, matalab ve hamāre bīchamen nahīn hai, usake bāda. ... usake bād kabhī unhonne kuchh bhī chāhe vah pojhiṭi sāīḍ ho yā negeṭiv sāīḍ ho, vah pūchhanā hai, vah jānanekā..

samādhānaḥ- paramparākī kyā bāt hai? upadesh unhonne diyā, unhen jānā..

mumukṣhuḥ- magar mātājī! āp logoṅke sambandha to purāne bhī hai to ho sakatā hai ki har insānase galatī hotī hai, chāhe vah tīrthaṅkar ho, aur mārgadarshan unako guruonse milatā hai. ..

samādhānaḥ- gurudev tīrthaṅkarakā dravya thā. unhonne sabako mārga batāyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- main āpako yah batā rahā hūn̐ ki unake jāneke bād koī chījamen aisā..?

samādhānaḥ- .. unako koī ichchhā hī nahīn thī. gurudevako koī ichchhā nahīn thī.

mumukṣhuḥ- unake anusār unakā bhī ek vākya hai, yah unhonne bolā ki main dīkṣhā isaliye nahīn dilātā hūn̐ ki main is rūpamen nahīn āyā hūn̐, matalab tīrthaṅkar rūpamen nahīn āyā hū̃n. matalab unakā vah pārṭa to bākī hai na?

samādhānaḥ- unako koī ichchhā bākī nahīn thī. ve to apanā kārya karate the. vāṇī chhūṭatī thī, sabako lābh milatā thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- phir unhonne āpake liye..

samādhānaḥ- unako koī ichchhā nahīn thī, bāhar koī ichchhā nahīn thī. sab jīv mokṣha prāpta kare, aisā prashasta rāg ātā hai to vāṇī chhūṭ jātī hai. bādamen unako vah vichār nahīn ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āpake pās usake bād kabhī nahīn āye? kisī bhī rūpamen-sapaneke rūpamen, sākṣhāt rūpamen, kisī bhī rūpamẽn.

samādhānaḥ- svapna āye to usamen kyā hai?

mumukṣhuḥ- mokṣhagāmī jīvakā svapna āye to usamen bahut .. in logoṅko svapnamen hī bolate the. unako koī sāmāne ākar nahīn bolatā thā. sapanemen bolate the. mātāko solah svapna āye, usake bād trishalā mātā..

samādhānaḥ- vah to ek āgāhī hotī hai ki sapanā dekhakar yah tīrthaṅkarakā jīv āyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vahī matalab hai merā.

samādhānaḥ- yah pūchhanekā kyā matalab hai?

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut lābh hai. apaneko yah lābh hai ki apanī paripāṭī kīdhar chalanevālī hai. kyoṅki isake bād jo main ... vah ye hai ki āj jo ham sthiti dekhate hain,

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vāstavik sthiti dekhate hain, main digambar hūn̐, magar main...

mumukṣhuḥ- .. sapanā āyegā vah māneṅge? ... āp bhī nahīn mānate haĩn. sapanā to manokalpanā hai, aisā kaheṅge. usamen kuchh nahīn hai. ātmākī karo, aisī koī jhañjhaṭamen mat paḍo.

samādhānaḥ- gurudevane jo kiyā, bahutoṅko jāgr̥ut kiye haĩn. hindustānake logoṅko adhyātmakī ... pariṇati bahut logoṅkī ho gayī hai. (jisakī) nahīn huyī, usakī yogyatā. bākī jisakī lāyakāt thī, to bahut logoṅko adhyātma, ātmākā vichār karanevāle bahut ho gaye. bahut sāl pahale to sab kriyākāṇḍamen the. aisā thoḍā kar liyā, shuddhi kar lī, ashuddhi kar lī, itanā pāṭh paḍh liyā, aisā kar liyā, isamen sab paḍe the. gurudevake pratāpase adhyātmake shāstra, adhyātmakā vāñchan, adhyātma svarūp.. aisā bahut karane lag gaye. bahut logoṅkā parivartan ho gayā.

mumukṣhuḥ- ek jagah kahanemen ātā hai ki, paryāy apane ṣhaṭakārakase utpanna hotī hai aur ek jagah kahanemen ātā hai ki, apane dravyake ādhārase utpanna hotī hai. to in do nirṇayamen kaun-sā nirṇay joradār hai jisamen ham ātmākā lakṣhya kar sake?

samādhānaḥ- ātmākā lakṣhya karanā. to paryāy us or ā jātī hai. ātmākī dravyadr̥uṣhṭike āshrayase paryāy usamen ā jātī hai. shuddha paryāy usamen pragaṭ hotī hai. vah paryāy svatantra, amuk apekṣhāse svatantra hai. bākī dravya to ananta sāmarthyase bharā hai to jitanā vah dravya svatantra hai, utanī hī paryāyako svatantra kahanā vah to apane svabhāvase hai athavā amuk apekṣhāse usake ṣhaṭakārak kahanemen āte hain, to bhī paryāyako dravyakā āshray to rahatā hai. paryāyako dravyakā āshray to hai. jis or dravyakī pariṇati hotī hai us or paryāy palaṭ jātī hai. dr̥uṣhṭi bāhar jātī ho to us or paryāy jātī hai. dr̥uṣhṭi shuddhātmāmen jātī hai to us or paryāy jātī hai. isaliye dravyakā āshray to paryāyamen rahatā hai. jitanā dravya svatantra hai, paryāyamen utanā pharka hai ki ṣhaṭakārak hai to bhī dravyakā āshray paryāyamen rahatā hai. paryāyako dravyakā āshray to rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- lakṣhya dravyakā hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- lakṣhya to dravyakā hotā hai, paryāyakā lakṣhya nahīn hotā.

mumukṣhuḥ- aur utpattikī apekṣhāse dravyake sāth paryāyakī utpatti hotī hai?

samādhānaḥ- jis or dravyakī dr̥uṣhṭi, us or paryāy hotī hai. paryāy svatantra us apekṣhāse (kahate hain ki), paryāyakā svarūp svatantra hai. isaliye paryāy svatantra hai. bākī paryāyamen āshray to dravyakā rahatā hai. ūparase paryāy hotī hai kiyā? gnānakī paryāy, darshanakī paryāy, chaitanyakī chaitanyarūp paryāy, vah paryāy ūparase utpanna nahīn hotī.

Paryay Dravya se Utpan hoti Hai To Jis Tarah Se Dravya SWATANTRA hai
usi Tarah PARYAY bhi SWATANTRA hai (Dravya se Utpan Hone Ke Kaaran).

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use dravyakā āshray hai.

isaliye dravyakī svatantratā aur paryāyakī svatantratāmen pharka hai. usake ṣhaṭakārak aur isake ṣhaṭakārakamen pharka hai. dravya svatantra svataḥse hai. vaise paryāyako to dravyakā āshray hai. usake ṣhaṭakārak samajhanā hai to us prakārase samajhanā ki dravyake āshray binā paryāy ūparase nahīn hotī.

mumukṣhuḥ- chandubhāīne kahā ki ūparase rāg hotā hai. mumukṣhuḥ- .. ātmākā bhī nahīn sakate aur pudagalakā bhī nahīn kah sakate, svayanne nayā khaḍā kiyā hai.

samādhānaḥ- svayam nayā hai. apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. svayam juḍatā hai. ākāshake phūlako koī āshray nahīn hai, aise nahī̃n. ... puruṣhārthakī mandatāse hotā hai. pharka hai. paryāy hai (usako) dravyakā āshray hotā hai. rāgakī bāt alag hai. apanā svabhāv nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- paryāyakā vedan hotā hai, ālamban nahīn hotā. aur dhruvakā ālamban hotā hai, dravyakā vedan nahīn hotā.

samādhānaḥ- usakā ālamban hai, paryāyakā vedan hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sab vidvānoṅko, paṇḍitoṅko sabako bahut saral bhāṣhāmen bol diyā. upakār hai, mātājī! ananta upakār hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- siddha bhagavānako jo avyābādh ānanda pragaṭ huā, chauthe guṇasthānamen kyā siddha jaisā hī sukh pragaṭ hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- chaturtha guṇasthānamen siddha bhagavān jaisā hī sukh (pragaṭ hotā hai). ānshik siddha bhagavān jaisā. jāti to ek hai. siddha bhagavānako pūrṇa pragaṭ huā hai, vah ansh hai. jāti to jaisā siddha bhagavānakā svarūp hai, vaisā ansh pragaṭ hotā hai. dravya to siddha bhagavān jaisā hai. siddha bhagavānakā jo svabhāv hai, vaisā hī svabhāv ātmākā hai. parantu pragaṭ hotā hai vah ansh pragaṭ hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ānandakā svād ānshik rūpamen ātā hai. samādhānaḥ- ansh ātā hai, parantu siddha bhagavān jaisā hī hai. bhedagnānakī dhārā bhītaramen pragaṭ kar kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen main gnāyak chaitanya hūn̐, ye main nahīn hūn̐, aisī dhārā pragaṭ karate-karate vikalpa ṭūṭakar svānubhūti hotī hai. (usamen) siddha bhagavānakī jātikā ansh pragaṭ hotā hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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