Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 141.

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આત્મા કેવલ જ્ઞાયક હી હૈ?    0   Play
ātmā keval gnāyak hī hai?    0   Play

આત્માનું ઘ્યેય રાખવું તે વિષે    3:45   Play
ātmānun ghyey rākhavun te viṣhe    3:45   Play

જેમ સૂર્યમાં મલિનતા નથી તેમ શું આત્મામાં મલિનતા નથી?    5:00   Play
jem sūryamān malinatā nathī tem shun ātmāmān malinatā nathī?    5:00   Play

આત્માનો સ્વભાવ મલિન થયો નથી તે વિષે....    5:50   Play
ātmāno svabhāv malin thayo nathī te viṣhe....    5:50   Play

આવો આત્મા આ કાળે પામી શકાય?    7:10   Play
āvo ātmā ā kāḷe pāmī shakāy?    7:10   Play

પૂર્વભવના સંસ્કાર રહી ગયા છે તે વિષે    8:30   Play
pūrvabhavanā sanskār rahī gayā chhe te viṣhe    8:30   Play

જ્ઞાનીને બહિરલક્ષી જ્ઞાન ઉપયોગ હોય અને અજ્ઞાનીને બહિરલક્ષી જ્ઞાન ઉપયોગ હોય તેમાં શું કંઈ ફરક રહેતો હશે?    11:10   Play
gnānīne bahiralakṣhī gnān upayog hoy ane agnānīne bahiralakṣhī gnān upayog hoy temān shun kāī pharak raheto hashe?    11:10   Play

સ્વાનુભૂતિમાં આત્મા નારિયેળના ગોળાની જેમ શું જુદો પડી જાય છે?    12:30   Play
svānubhūtimān ātmā nāriyeḷanā goḷānī jem shun judo paḍī jāy chhe?    12:30   Play

કોઈનું મરણ જોઈએ ત્યારે આપણને એમ નથી લાગતું કે આપણું પણ મરણ થવાનું છે? તેમાં શું એકત્વબુદ્ધિનો દોષ છે?    14:00   Play
koīnun maraṇ joīe tyāre āpaṇane em nathī lāgatun ke āpaṇun paṇ maraṇ thavānun chhe? temān shun ekatvabuddhino doṣh chhe?    14:00   Play

શું પૂર્વભવના સંબંધને લીધે બધા ભેગા થાય છે?    15:45   Play
shun pūrvabhavanā sambandhane līdhe badhā bhegā thāy chhe?    15:45   Play

બધા વાડામાં હતા–ક્રિયામાં પડયા હતા પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રી બહાર લાવ્યા    15:55   Play
badhā vāḍāmān hatā–kriyāmān paḍayā hatā pūjya gurudevashrī bahār lāvyā    15:55   Play

આપે આત્મા સહજ રીતે પ્રાપ્ત કરી લીધો તો શું આત્મસ્વરૂપ પ્રાપ્ત કરવું સહજ છે?    17:35   Play
āpe ātmā sahaj rīte prāpta karī līdho to shun ātmasvarūp prāpta karavun sahaj chhe?    17:35   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- gnāyak gnāyakī hī hai ātmā.

samādhānaḥ- gnāyak svarūp hī hai. gnāyakatāse bharā hai. koī parakā kartā nahīn ho sakatā. apanā svabhāv gnāyak svabhāv hai. gnāyakakā svabhāv pahachāne, usakī shraddhā kare, usamen līnatā kare to koī navīnatā, anādi kālase jo vibhāvaparyāy ho rahī hai, usase (bhinna) koī navīn paryāy pragaṭ hotī hai. navīn hove vah navīnatā satyārtha rūpamen navīnatā hai. nūtan varṣha to vyavahār hai, parantu antaramense navīnatā, koī navīn paryāy pragaṭ hove to vāstavik navīnatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sabako jānatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- jānanevālā hai. svaparaprakāsha. svayaṅko jānatā huā sabako jānatā hai. svako jānanemen par sahaj hī jānanemen ā jātā hai. jo svako jāne vah parako yathārtha jānatā hai. anādi kālase mātra parako jānatā hai vah svako bhī nahīn jānatā hai aur parako bhī nahīn jānatā hai. jo svayaṅko jānatā hai vah parako jānatā hai. jo svayaṅko nahīn jānatā hai, vah parako bhī nahīn jānatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- usamen āyā thā, jo gnāt hotā hai, parantu jānatā nahī̃n.

samādhānaḥ- gnāt hotā hai. vikalpa karake jānane nahīn jātā, ekatvabuddhise. svako jānate hue par gnāt hotā hai. parantu svaparaprakāshak svabhāv hai. vikalpa karake parakā kartā nahīn hotā, usamen ekatvabuddhi nahīn karatā hai. svako jānate hue par gnāt ho jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhūtakālakī paryāy aur bhaviṣhya kālakī paryāy apanī gnānakī apekṣhāse avidyamān hone par bhī sabako jānatā hai, aisā svabhāv hai.

samādhānaḥ- aisā svabhāv hai. vidyamān nahīn hai to bhī jānatā hai. aisā gnānakā koī achintya svabhāv hai. ananta-ananta agādh gnānashakti koī apūrva achintya hai. jo bhūtakālamen bīt gaī aur bhaviṣhyamen honevālī hai, un sabhī paryāyoṅko ātmā pratyakṣha jāne aisā usakā svabhāv hai. kevalagnānamen pratyakṣha jānatā hai. kevalagnānī sab pratyakṣha jānate haĩn. apane ātmākī ananta paryāy aur parakī ananta paryāy, sab jānatā hai.

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svayam apanemen rahakar jānatā hai. svabhāvamen rahakar jānatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jo paryāy pragaṭ nahīn huī hai, use bhī yogyatārūp jānate hain yā pratyakṣha jānate hain?

samādhānaḥ- pratyakṣha jānate haĩn. yah pragaṭ honevālī hai, aise pratyakṣha jānate haĩn. kis prakār, kab pragaṭ hogī sab pratyakṣha jānate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhagavān mahāvīrako terahaven guṇasthānamen kevalagnān thā aur siddha ho gaye, to unakī siddhaparyāyako bhī jānate hain?

samādhānaḥ- siddhaparyāyako bhī jānate hain aur svayam kevalagnānī the vah bhī jānate haiain, siddhaparyāyako bhī jānate hain, sab jānate haĩn. bhaviṣhyamen aisā honevālā hai, yah huā hai, aise vartamān, bhaviṣhya sab jaisā hai vaisā jānate haiaĩn. aisā koī gnānakā apūrva agādh svabhāv hai. svabhāv koī apūrva hai. ananta.. ananta.. ananta lokālok jāne to bhī usamen koī vajan yā dūsarā kuchh hotā nahīn, parantu ananta sahaj jānatā hai. shāstramen ātā hai na? aṇureṇuvata. mānon ek aṇu ho vaise. usase bhī ananta lokālok ho to bhī jāne, aisī ātmāmen jānanekī shakti hai.

... usakī bhāvanā kare, usakī jignāsā kare. dev-guru-shāstra, jinhonne vah svānubhūti pragaṭ kī, jo usakī sādhanā karate hain usakī mahimā kare. use dhyey ek ātmākā hai ki mujhe gnāyak kaise pragaṭ ho? ek ātmākā dhyey hai aur dhyeyapūrvak shubhabhāvamen dev-guru-shāstra, antaramen gnāyaka. shubhāshubh vikalpa merā svabhāv nahīn hai. aisī gnāyakakī bhāvanāpūrvak ek ansh pragaṭ karake svānubhūti... vah ansh svānubhūtimen pragaṭ hotā hai, bādamen kevalagnān pragaṭ hotā hai. jīvako karanā vahī hai aur vahī satya suprabhāt hai. vah prabhāt pragaṭ honese kevalagnān utpanna hotā hai, pūrā sūrya pragaṭ hotā hai.

... dr̥uṣhṭi kare. sab jānane jāy, parantu jo svayaṅko nahīn jānatā hai, vah vāstavikarūpase dūsareko satya nahīn jānatā hai. svayaṅko jānane par anya sahaj gnāt ho jātā hai. svayaṅko jāne usamen dūsarā sahaj ā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jaisā sūrya hai vaisā ātmākā svarūp hai? jaise sūryamen malinatā nahīn hai, vaise ātmāmen bhī malinatā nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- sūryamen malinatā nahīn hai, vaise ātmāmen nahīn hai. vah to dr̥uṣhṭānta hai. jaise sūrya malinatā rahit hai, vaise ātmākā nirmal svabhāv hai, usamen koī malinatā nahīn hai. vastumen malinatā nahīn hai, paryāyamen (hai). paryāyakī shuddhi, dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi kare to paryāy nirmal hotī hai.

... jaise ek hajār kiraṇonse prakāshit hotā hai, vaise ātmā to ananta kiraṇomvālā

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hai, parantu shaktirūp hai. usakā lakṣhya kare to pragaṭ hotā hai, usakī dr̥uṣhṭi kare, gnān kare to pragaṭ hotā hai. aisā shakti-svabhāv hai.

... usamen vibhāv nahīn hai. shuddha svarūp anādiananta (hai). vah shuddhātmā hai. vah anādiananta svataḥsiddha ek tattva hai. muktikā mārga hai. shuddhātmāko anādi kālase pahichānā nahīn hai. dr̥uṣhṭi bāhar vibhāv par hai. mānon mujhe parase lābh hotā hai aur par ūpar dr̥uṣhṭi hai. shuddhātmāko pahichānanā. shuddhātmā anādiananta, ananta guṇaonse bharapūr, anante shaktionse bharapūr hai. usamen vibhāvakā andar pravesh nahīn huā hai. parantu main vibhāvayukta ho gayā, main vibhāvavālā, duḥkhavālā, malinatāvālā aisā ho gayā, aisī mānyatā hai. bākī anādiananta shuddhātmā mūl svabhāvase jaisā hai vaisā hai. use pahachāne to bhavakā abhāv ho, to svānubhūti ho, usamen puruṣhārtha kare, usamen līnatā kare, usameen pariṇaman kare vahī muktikā mārga hai. aur gurudevane vah batāyā hai, vahī karanekā hai. usamen ānanda hai. ānandase bharapūr hai ātmā to.

mumukṣhuḥ- ...

samādhānaḥ- kaṭhin kāl koī āḍe nahīn ātā, svayam puruṣhārtha kare to pragaṭ ho aisā hai. kāl usamen āḍe nahīn ātā. apane puruṣhārthakī mandatāse kārya pragaṭ nahīn hotā hai. is kālamen kevalagnān pragaṭ nahīn hotā hai, parantu ātmākī svānubhūti to pragaṭ hotī hai, parantu svayam puruṣhārtha nahīn karatā hai. antaramen main gnāyak hūn̐, main chaitanya hūn̐, yah vibhāv main nahīn hūn̐, aisā bhedagnān (kare). svayam apanemen ekatvabuddhi aur parase vibhaktatā kare to svānubhūti pragaṭ ho aisī hai.

āchāyā, munivaron sab is kālamen ho gaye haĩn. nirantar jharatā āsvādamen ātā aisā chaitanyadev pragaṭ huā hai, aisā āchārya kahate haĩn. svayam antaramen apanī yogyatā taiyār kare.

... gahare sanskār vah pragaṭ hote haĩn. svayanne jo taiyārī kī ho us jātakī yogyatā chaitanyamen hotī hai. is prakār sanskār rah jāte haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... paryāyake sāth aisā koī juḍān rahatā hogā? paryāy paryāyake bīch?

samādhānaḥ- juḍān nahīn, parantu aisī chaitanyamen yogyatā hotī hai ki jo yogyatā andar yathārthapane ho, vah pūrva bhavamen use naisargikarūpase pragaṭ hote hain, us jātakā puruṣhārtha kare.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahinashrī! is bhavamen jo yah dharma prāpta kiyā, usamen gat bhavake koī sanskār hoṅge? pūrva bhavamen koī sanskār ḍāle hoṅge?

samādhānaḥ- sanskār to hote hain pūrvake, parantu sabako ho hī aisā nahīn hotā.

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bahutoṅko pūrva bhavake sanskār hote haĩn. bahutoṅko nahīn hote haĩn. jab karatā hai tab sarvapratham hotā hai. pūrvamen jab taiyārī kī tab sarvapratham hī thā. usamen koī kamī rahe to dūsare bhavamen āye to pūrvake sanskārase pragaṭ huā aisā kahanemen ātā hai. parantu jab kare tab to sarvapratham hī hotā hai. jab kare tab pahalā hotā hai. pūrvamen pūrā nahīn huā isaliye dūsare bhavamen ātā hai to use puruṣhārtha shīghratāse hotā hai ataḥ pūrvake sanskār hain, aisā kahanemen ātā hai. shīghratāse hotā hai isaliye aisā kahanemen ātā hai ki pūrvake sanskār haĩn.

jise karanā ho use to pahalī taiyārī hotī hai. pratham jīv anādi kālase janma- maraṇ karatā ā rahā hai, usamen koī dev athavā gurukī vāṇī mile, parantu jab taiyārī karanī ho to pratham hī taiyārī (hotī hai), kahīn bhī kare tab pahalī taiyārī hotī hai. is bhavamen kī huyī taiyārī... pūrvabhavamen use visheṣh taiyārī ho to pūrvake sanskār hai, aisā kahanemen ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ātmāke pās sādhan hai aisā nahīn hai?

samādhānaḥ- sādhan koī nahīn hai, svayam hī hai, ātmā svayam hī hai, svayam hī apanā sādhan hai. svayam apanī taiyārī (kare). apanemen jis prakārakī yogyatā hotī hai us prakārakī paryāyen pragaṭ hotī hai. svayam hī svayaṅkā sādhan hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahirlakṣhī gnānopayog ho aur agnānīkā bahirlakṣhakī gnānopayog ho, usamen koī antar hotā hogā?

samādhānaḥ- usamen pharka hai. agnānīko ekatvabuddhi hai bāhya upayogamẽn. ātmākā gnān nahīn hai aur ekatvabuddhi hai. main kaun aur par kaun, yah mālūm nahīn hai. parake sāth ekatvabuddhi ho rahī hai. gnānīko bhedagnān vartatā hai. apanā svapadārtha gnāyakake sāth ekatvabuddhi hai aur parake sāth vibhakta hai ki ye parapadārtha so main nahīn hūn̐, aisī use pariṇati vartatī hai ki main yah chaitanya gnāyak bhinna hūn̐ aur ye paragney bhinna haĩn. aisī bhedagnānakī pariṇati pragaṭ hotī hai aur bhedagnānakī pariṇatike sāth usakā upayog bāhar hotā hai. parantu pariṇati to usakī chalatī hī rahatī hai ki main gnāyak hūn̐ aur yah bhinna hai. usamen usakī dr̥uṣhṭi aur usakī pariṇatimen pūrva aur pashchim jitanā antar hai. svarūp sanmukh hai aur gneyako jānatā hai. aur usakī (-agnānīkī) to dishā hī parasanmukh hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... usamen nāriyalamen jaise golā alag hai, aisā kuchh hotā hogā?

samādhānaḥ- svayam bhinna paḍ jātā hai. chaitanyatattva akelā nirālā svayam apanī svānubhūti karatā hai. svayam apane ānandādi ananta guṇoṅkā vedan karatā hai. ekadam nirālā

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ho jātā hai. chaitanyagolā bhinna paḍakar chaitanya svayam svayaṅko anubhavatā hai. ye anubhav jo vedan hai, vibhāvakā vedan hai vah chhūṭ jātā hai aur chaitanyakā vedan antaramense pragaṭ hotā hai. ekadam nirālā ho jātā hai.

.... main chaitanya hī hū̃n. chaitanyake ānanda svarūpako vedatā hai. upayog bāhar āye tab yah sharīr bhinna aur main gnāyak bhinna hūn̐, aisī bhinnatākī pariṇati vartatī hai. antaramen gayā to sharīr kahān̐ hai usakā bhī khyāl nahīn hai. main chaitanya hī hū̃n. vikalpa bhī chhūṭ jāte haĩn. vikalpakī or upayog nahīn hai. akele chaitanyakā vedan hai. akelī ānandakī dhārā ānandakā svarūp pragaṭ hotā hai. ānandādi ananta guṇoṅkī paryāyen pragaṭ hotī haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- logoṅko marate hue dekhate hain to hamen aisā nahīn lagatā hai ki apanā bhī kabhī bhī aisā maraṇ honevālā hai, to kyā ekatvabuddhikā doṣh hogā?

samādhānaḥ- ekatvabuddhi hai. sharīrake sāth ekatvabuddhi hai. janma-maraṇ to chalate hī rahate haĩn. jisane sharīr dhāraṇ kiyā, isaliye deh aur ātmā bhinna paḍ hī jāte haĩn. ekatvabuddhi, utanā sharīrake sāth ekatvabuddhikā rāg hai. chaitanya to shāshvat hai. chaitanyamen janma-maraṇ lāgū nahīn paḍate. vah to shāshvat hai. jahān̐ jāy vahān̐ shāshvat hai. ek deh chhūṭakar dūsarā deh dhāraṇ karatā hai. ātmā to shāshvat hai. parantu ekatvabuddhike kāraṇ use khyāl nahīn ātā hai.

muumukṣhuḥ- pūrva bhavakī len-denake kāraṇ dūsare bhavamen sab vyakti ikaṭṭhe hote hain, kyā yah bāt sach hai?

samādhānaḥ- kisīko pūrva bhavakā koī sambandha ho aur len-den ho isaliye bhī milate hain, bākī pūrva bhavamen kahīn mile nahīn ho aur kuchh pariṇāmoṅkā aur aise karmake sanyogakā aisā mel baiṭh jāy aur mil jāte haĩn. kabhī koī kahān̐-se āyā ho, koī kahān̐-se āyā ho aur mil jāte haĩn. koī kis gatimense, koī kis gatimense ākar mil jāte haĩn. pariṇām aur karmake udayakā aisā mel khā jāy aur mil jāte haĩn. aur kisīkā pūrva sambandha ho, pūrvamen sāthamen ho aur mil jāy, aisā bhī banatā hai.

samādhānaḥ-.. sab sthūl dr̥uṣhṭimen kriyāmen paḍe the. kahān̐se gurudev sabako ūpar le āye. koī dev-devīko nahīn mānate hon, parantu kriyāmen to paḍe hī the. upavās karen to dharma hogā, aisī sab mānyatā. ... sthānakavāsīmen to sab aisā thā. gnāyakako pahachānanekā mārga kahān̐ thā? kaun jānatā thā? antar dr̥uṣhṭi karanī aur mokṣha antaramen ānshikarūpase hotā hai, vah mokṣha bādamen hotā hai. aur yah mokṣha antaramen hotā hai, yah bāt kahān̐ thī?

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ye sab kahate hain, pañchamakālamen kevalagnān nahīn hai. pañchamakālamen kevalagnān nahīn hai, parantu samyagdarshan hai. samyagdarshan yānī kyā, yah bhī koī samajhatā nahīn thā. mokṣha yahān̐ samyagdarshanamen ānshikarūpase ho jātā hai, yah bhī koī samajhatā nahīn thā.

.. isaliye apane pariṇām hain, vah tīvra kaluṣhitatā athavā kaise tīvra hon, vah apane hāthakī bāt hai. usamen shānti rakhanī, ātmāko pahichānanā, vah sab apane hāthakī bāt hai. bāhya sanyog kaise ho, vah (apane hāthakī bāt nahīn hai). kisīko achchhā lage, kisīko būrā lage, svayam kuchh bhī kare to bhī dūsareko kharāb hī lage. aisā koī uday ho to vah sab udayakī bāt hai. shānti rakhanī apane hāthakī bāt hai. isaliye ātmāko pahichānanā aur shānti rakhanī. bāhya sanyog (apane) hāthakī bāt nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sahajatāse prāpta kar liyā. to ātma-svarūp prāpta karanā aisā sahaj hai?

samādhānaḥ- puruṣhārtha kare to sahaj hai aur puruṣhārtha na kare to kaṭhin hai. ananta kāl gayā, parantu yadi svayam puruṣhārtha nahīn karatā hai to kaṭhin ho jātā hai aur puruṣhārtha kare to sahaj hotā hai. usamen pūrvake sanskār kisīko nimitta banate hain aur koī karatā hai to pratham bār hotā hai.

... hān̐, apane pās hai. ananta shakti (hai). nigodamense nikalakar antarmuhūrtamen jo pragaṭ karate hain, vah shakti kahān̐-se (āyī)? isaliye utanā puruṣhārtha chaitanyamen hai. ananta kālase nigodamen the aur phir ... hue hain, usake bād rājāke kumvar hue hain, aur phir ekadam muni ban gaye. vah shakti kahān̐se (āyī)? apane chaitanyamen hai. pūrvamen kahīn sunane nahīn gaye the. sarva pratham bhagavānake ghar rājakumār hokar dīkṣhā lete haĩn. bhagavānakī vāṇī sunate haĩn. ekadam puruṣhārtha antarmuhūrtamen jāgr̥ut ho. jīvamen svayammen ananta shakti hai. rājakumār kitane... ekadam dīkṣhā lekar chal paḍate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah is shaktikī hī bāt hai na? samādhānaḥ- hān̐, ananta shakti. jaise bhagavān hain, vaisī ananta shakti teremen hai, aisā gurudev kahate the.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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