Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 173.

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પોતે પરીક્ષા કરી નક્કી કરવું જોઈએ.    0   Play
pote parīkṣhā karī nakkī karavun joīe.    0   Play

આમાં સત્સંગનું મહાત્મ્ય શું આવે છે?    0:50   Play
āmān satsaṅganun mahātmya shun āve chhe?    0:50   Play

અમને શું ખબર પડે કે આ વ્યકિતનો સત્સંગ કરવો?    1:50   Play
amane shun khabar paḍe ke ā vyakitano satsaṅg karavo?    1:50   Play

અમને આત્માની અનુભૂતિ થતી હોય અને આપણે સામાન્ય માણસ હોઈએ અને જેને આત્માની અનુભૂતિ થઈ હોય તેના જીવનમાં શું ફર્ક પડે?    2:50   Play
amane ātmānī anubhūti thatī hoy ane āpaṇe sāmānya māṇas hoīe ane jene ātmānī anubhūti thaī hoy tenā jīvanamān shun pharka paḍe?    2:50   Play

વાંચન વિચાર વર્ષોના વર્ષો કરે છતાં જીવ પાછો કેમ પડે છે? (પ્રશ્ન જવાબ ઉપરથી)    4:40   Play
vāñchan vichār varṣhonā varṣho kare chhatān jīv pāchho kem paḍe chhe? (prashna javāb uparathī)    4:40   Play

રુચિ કઈ રીતે થાય?    7:21   Play
ruchi kaī rīte thāy?    7:21   Play

દરેક આત્માને શું આત્મ સાક્ષાત્કાર થાય કે તેમાં પણ કાંઈક કોટિ હશે? બહારના સંયોગ કર્મ અનુસાર મળે છે પણ આત્મામાં કાર્ય તો પુરુષાર્થથી થાય કર્મના કારણે નહીં તે વિષે......    8:40   Play
darek ātmāne shun ātma sākṣhātkār thāy ke temān paṇ kāīk koṭi hashe? bahāranā sanyog karma anusār maḷe chhe paṇ ātmāmān kārya to puruṣhārthathī thāy karmanā kāraṇe nahīn te viṣhe......    8:40   Play

સંસારમાં રહીને આત્મસાક્ષાત્કાર થઈ શકે? આવા નિર્ણય માટે શું બધું છોડવું જોઈએ?    15:30   Play
sansāramān rahīne ātmasākṣhātkār thaī shake? āvā nirṇay māṭe shun badhun chhoḍavun joīe?    15:30   Play

samādhānaḥ- .. vah pratīt svayam andarase vichār karake nirṇay kare ki yah svabhāv so main hūn̐ aur ye svabhāv so main nahīn hū̃n. jaise bāharamen pratīt karanī ho...

mumukṣhuḥ- satat chintan?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, chintan karanā paḍe. koī nirṇay karanā ho, koī manuṣhyakī parīkṣhā karanī ho to svayam vichār karake jaise nakkī karatā hai yā bāharakī jarūrat mahasūs ho ki isamen apaneko lābh hai. to usakī dukān kaisī hai? isamen lābh hai? munāphā hai? vah jaise parīkṣhā karake nakkī karatā hai, vaise parīkṣhā karake nakkī karanā ki yah merā svabhāv hai aur yah merā svabhāv nahīn hai. aise yathārtha pahichān kare, pratīt kare. ākhīr tak pahun̐ch sakatā hai. svayam ātmā hai, ananta shaktise bharā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahin! isamen satsaṅgakā māhātmya kahān̐ ātā hai?

samādhānaḥ- isamen satsaṅgakā māhātmya anādi kālase anajānā mārga hai, svayam kuchh jānatā nahī̃n. to jānate hain aise guru aur aise jo sādharmī hon, unakā satsaṅg kare to svayaṅko jānane milatā hai. svayam apaneāp to kuchh jān nahīn sakatā. isaliye satsaṅg karanekā mahāpuruṣhonne kahā hai ki tū satsaṅg kara.

sansāramen jo anek jātake parichayamen rahatā hai, to us jātake use vichār sphurit hote haĩn. isaliye satsaṅgamen yathārtha mārga prāpta honekā (kāraṇ banatā hai). satsaṅgamen jo- jo jīv sādharmī hon,.. guruse to koī apūrva mārga prāpta hotā hai. isaliye guru ho to gurukī vāṇī sunanī. svayaṅko mārga milatā hai. ātmākī ruchi palaṭatī hai ki yahī satya hai. ātmāmen hī koī apūrvatā anupamatā bharī hai. aisī gurukī vāṇīse antaramen shraddhā pragaṭ honekā, ruchi pragaṭ honekā kāraṇ banatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- apaneāp tathya prāpta ho sakatā hai? apaneāp mālūm paḍe ki yahī ātmākā svarūp hai?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, mālūm paḍe. parantu jo mahāpuruṣh kah gaye hain, usake sāth svayam milān kare, vichār kare. apaneāp mālūm paḍ sakatā hai. svayam svatantra ātmā hai, kahīn parādhīn nahīn hai. koī use karavā nahīn detā. apaneāp mālūm paḍatā hai. parīkṣhā

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karake svayaṅko nakkī karanā hai. satpuruṣhako pahichānanā ho to svayam hī nakkī karanā hai.

jise satakī ruchi jāgr̥ut huyī, us ruchivāleke hr̥udayake netra hī aise ho jāte hain ki vah satpuruṣhako pahichān letā hai ki ye satpuruṣh hai. is prakār usake hr̥udayake netra hī nirmal ho jāte haĩn.

vaise svayam apaneāp ātmākā svabhāv nishchit kar sakatā hai ki yah merā svabhāv hai aur yah main nahīn hū̃n. koī apūrvatā meremen bharī hai, aisā svayam nakkī kar sakatā hai. aisā koī ātmākā nakkī karanekā svabhāv hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jise ātmākī anubhūti hotī hai, aur ham sāmānya manuṣhya ho aur jise ātmākī anubhūti huyī ho, unake jīvanamen kyā pharka paḍatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- unakā jīvan bāharase dekhanā bahut mushkil hai. antaramen use ātmā bhinna hī rahatā ho. jo antaramen vikalpa hote hain, usase bhinna, usakā ātmā bhinna (rahatā hai). use ekatvabuddhi nahīn hotī. sharīrake sāth, vikalpake sāth ekatvabuddhi (nahīn hotī). usakā ātmā bhinna hī (rahatā hai). use kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen main jānanevālā gnāyak hūn̐, gnāyak hūn̐, gnāyak hūn̐, aisī usakī sahaj dhārā chalatī ho. gnāyakakī dhārā. aur koī bār use vikalpa ṭūṭakar svānubhūti (hotī hai). ātmāmen aisā ekāgra ho jāy ki bāharamen kyā ho rahā hai, vah use mālūm nahīn paḍe. vah ātmāmen aisā līn ho jātā hai aur aisā anupam ānanda use ātā hai ki jagatamen koī vastumen aisā ānanda nahīn hai. aisā anupam ānanda use pragaṭ hotā hai.

usakā ātmā bhinna hī bhinna antaramen kām karatā hai. use bhedagnānakī dhārā rahatī hai. lekin vah usake bolanemen, usake parichayase khyālamen ātā hai ki antaramen inakā hr̥uday bhinna hai. usakī dr̥uṣhṭi koī alag kām karatī hai, usakī pariṇati koī alag kām karatī hai.

ātmākī anubhūti koī jagatamen jān na sake, aisā anupam ātmā hai, usakī anubhūti use hotī hai. aisī shānti aur ānanda. ākulatāse chhūṭakar aisā gnān aur aisā ānanda (anubhavamen ātā hai). ananta guṇonse bharā, ananta shaktiyonse bharā aisā chaitanyadev virājatā hai, usakī use anubhūti hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āp kahate ho na ki vāñchan aur koī gnānīpuruṣhako sunanā. aise barason bīt jāte haĩn. jahān̐ koī mile vahān̐ sunane jāte haĩn. yahān̐ bahinashrī achchhā bolatī hain to yahān̐ chalate haĩn. lekin merā aisā anubhav hai ki aise sunanese sirpha jānane milatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- ruchi hī nahīn lagī hai, isaliye aisā ho jātā hai. kharī ruchi aur shraddhā nahīn hai ki antaramen hī sabakuchh hai. utanī shraddhā nahīn hai. isaliye vāpas muḍ

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jātā hai. apane puruṣhārthakī kṣhati hai. antaramen koī apūrvatā bharī hai. ātmāmen koī anupamatā bharī hai, vah pragaṭ karane jaisā hai. ye sab niḥsār hai, sārabhūt nahīn hai. vibhāvake sāth ekatvabuddhi karane jaisī nahīn hai. utanī jo antaramen svayaṅkī ruchi honī chāhiye, us ruchikī kṣhati hai. isaliye vah vāpas ā jātā hai. vāpas ānekā kāraṇ apanā hī hai. kuchh paḍhe, vichār kare, parichay kare to bhī koī pharka na paḍe to apanī hī kṣhati hai.

yathārtha ruchi jise antarase ho ki ātmāmen koī apūrvatā bharī hī hai aur yah nishchit hai, itanā yadi vishvās ho to use dev-guru-shāstra jo kahate hain, sachche dev, sachche guru... gurune aisī sādhanā pragaṭ kī, bhagavānane aisī pūrṇatā pragaṭ kī, aise ātmāko prāpta kiyā. un par use koī apūrva mahimā āye. āchāyāne shāstramen (aisā kahā hai), use koī apūrva mahimā un par ātī hai. apane svabhāvakī mahimā āye. isaliye usake jīvanamen amuk prakārase parivartan to usakī ruchike kāraṇ ho hī jātā hai, nahīn honekā kāraṇ apanī ruchikī kṣhati aur apane vishvāsakī kṣhati hai. use bāharakā vishvās āyā hai, parantu antarakā vishvās hī nahīn āyā hai. isaliye vah palaṭ jātā hai.

bhale use svānubhūti honemen der lage, lekin antaramen yathārtha ruchi jāgr̥ut ho ki karanā to yahī hai, to usakā jīvan palaṭ jāy, to use kahīn chain nahīn paḍatā. use koī laukik kāyāmen khaḍā ho to bhī mujhe kuchh alag hī karanekā hai, mujhe antaramen jānā hai, isamen mujhe kahīn nahīn ras nahīn hai. use ras nahīn lagatā hai, use ātmāmen ras lage, ātmākī bātommen ras lage, aise gnānīpuruṣhoṅko dekhakar use ras lage. aisā sab use ātmākī ruchi palaṭe to use har jagah ras lage. ātmā-orakī bātommen ras lage, dūsarī sab bāten use rasayukta nahīn lagatī. is prakār use jīvanamen parivartan ho jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. ruchi kaise ho?

samādhānaḥ- ruchi, andar yathārtha vishvās karanā ki isīmen sabakuchh hai, kahīn aur nahīn hai. itanā svayam vishvās karake nakkī kare to parivartan hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- buddhise samajhakar ruchi utpanna ho, aisā nahīn parantu jise aisā kahen ki turanta ekadam utpanna ho jāy, bechain kar de, kahīn chain na paḍe, aisī tīvratā kaise ho?

samādhānaḥ- antarase svayaṅko puruṣhārtha karanā paḍatā hai. vāstavamen isamen kuchh nahīn hai, ye niḥsār hī hai, aisī taiyārī svayaṅko hī karanī paḍatī hai, koī kar nahīn detā. yadi koī kar detā ho to svayam parādhīn ho gayā. to koī kar de aur koī le le. parādhīn nahīn hai, svayam svādhīn hai. jagatamen rakhaḍanā aur janma-maraṇ karanā apane

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hāthakī bāt hai, usase chhūṭanā vah bhī apane hāthakī bāt hai. janma-maraṇ karanevālā svayam svatantra aur mokṣha karanevālā bhī svayam svatantra hai. aisī svatantratā ātmākī hai. apanī svatantratāse svayam palaṭatā hai. usamen guru nimitta hote hain, dev nimitta hon, shāstra nimitta hon, parantu palaṭanekā mūl kāraṇ to svayaṅkā hī hai. rakhaḍanevālā bhī svayam aur mokṣha karanevālā bhī svayam hī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sab ātmāko sākṣhātkār ho, aisā kuchh hai? athavā usamen bhī koī bhinna-bhinna star hogā?

samādhānaḥ- ātmākā svabhāv to aisā hī hai ki ātma sākṣhātkār kar sake.

mumukṣhuḥ- kar sake, koī bhī ātmā kar sakatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- koī bhī ātmā kar sakatā hai. parantu usakā puruṣhārtha svayaṅko karanā paḍatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- usamen bhī koī bhūmikā hai ki yah pratham bhūmikā hai, dūsarī bhūmikā hai, ek usase ūn̐chā hai. koī thoḍe puruṣhārthase ūpar ā jāy, kisīko ājīvan, dūsare janmamen bhī puruṣhārtha karanā paḍe?

samādhānaḥ- jisake puruṣhārthakī mandatā hotī hai vah lambe samay tak puruṣhārtha karatā rahe. thoḍā-thoḍā, thoḍā-thoḍā puruṣhārtha karatā rahe, ugratā na ho to lambe kāl tak chalatā hai. koī jīvako aisī ugratā ho jāy to kṣhaṇamātramen svayam palaṭ jātā hai, to jaldī kare. jisakā puruṣhārtha dhīre-dhīre, dhīre-dhīre chalatā ho to lambā kāl chalatā rahe. aur ugratā āye to turanta ho jāya.

mumukṣhuḥ- nahīn, jaise hamāre dharmamen kahate hain ki karmakī thīyarī gine. āpake karma hī amuk prakārase khatma hote jāy, aise tumhe ātmāke sāth...?

samādhānaḥ- nahī̃n. karma hai na vah karma to mātra nimitta hai. karmake kāraṇ jīv rakhaḍatā hai (aisā nahīn hai).

mumukṣhuḥ- to phir apanemen ek gharakī do bahanen hon, unakā byāh huā ho, ek hī gharamen baḍī huī hain, to koī ek sādhāraṇ gharamen jātī hai, ek baḍe gharamen jātī hai, to vah usake karma anusār hai?

samādhānaḥ- vah karma anusār hai. vah to puṇya-pāpakā kāraṇ hai. puṇya-pāpakā kāraṇ hai. pūrvamen svayanne...

mumukṣhuḥ- usī tarah ātmāko bhī ḍigrī anusār koī pharka hotā hogā na?

samādhānaḥ- bāhya sanyog prāpta honā vah sab puṇya-pāpakā kāraṇ hai. lekin andar ātmākā parivartan karanā vah apane puruṣhārthakī bāt hai.

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mumukṣhuḥ- vahī kahatī hūn̐ ki puruṣhārtha aur karma. hamāremen puruṣhārtha aur karma donoṅko karīb ek sthānamen rakhate hain ki āpane āpake karma kaise bān̐dhate ho aur kaise chhoḍate ho, us par āpake ātmākī unnati ginī jātī hai.

samādhānaḥ- bāhya sanyog prāpta karanā, paise milanā, ye milanā, dūsarā sab milanā vah puṇya-pāpake kāraṇ hai. parantu andaramen jo rāg-dveṣh hote hain, saṅkalpa-vikalpa (hote hain), vah karma nahīn karavāte. yadi karma hī karavāte hon... usamen karma nimitta hai. yadi rāg-dveṣh karma kare aisā ho to svayam parādhīn ho gayā. to kisīko ham aisā nahīn kah sakate ki tū rāg mat karanā, tū dveṣh mat karanā. to upadesh kaise diyā jāy ki tū aise doṣh mat kara. tū yahān̐se vāpas muḍ jā, tū aisā mat kara. aisā kyon kahanemen ātā hai? ki svayam kar sakatā hai aur vāpas muḍatā hai. isaliye puruṣhārthamen svayam svatantra hai. usamen svayaṅke jo pariṇām hote hain, vah pariṇām badalanamen svayam svatantra hai. usamen karma nimitta hai. parantu pariṇām kaise badalanā vah apane hāthakī bāt hai.

parantu bāhya uday jo āye, sharīramen rog āyā, koī ashātā vedanīy āyī, dhan mile, na mile, vah sab svayam badal nahīn sakatā. kisīko achchhā dhandhā mile, kisīko na mile, vah sab svayam badal nahīn sakatā. parantu apane bhāvako svayam badal sakatā hai. rāg-dveṣh kitanā karanā aur kaise karanā, vah svayam badal sakatā hai. rāg-dveṣhako jaise badal sakatā hai ki svayam shānti rakhanī, chāhe jaise sanyog āye to ākulatā nahīn karanī, khed nahīn karanā, vah jaise badal sakatā hai, vaise svayam apane svabhāvako pahichānanā, parase bhinnatā karanī, ātmāmen jānā, vah sab svatantrarūpase svayam kar sakatā hai. bhāv badal sakatā hai. parantu bāharakī nahīn kar sakatā. bāharakā sab puṇyādhīn hai. lekin rāg-dveṣh palaṭakar antaramen jānā, vah (karanemen) svayam svādhīn hai.

yadi rāg-dveṣh bhī palaṭ na sake to-to jīv ekadam parādhīn ho gayā. rāg karma karāve, dveṣh karma karāve, ab main kyā karun̐? mujhase kuchh nahīn ho sakatā. to upadesh vyartha jātā hai. āchārya aisā kahate hain, tū rāg-dveṣh mat kar, tū vikalpa mat kar, tū shānti rakha. vah sab upadesh vyartha hai. svayam badal sakatā hai, shānti rakh sakatā hai. karma hī karavātā ho to upadesh kyon? isaliye karma apane bhāvako nahīn kar sakatā. rāg-dveṣhamen svayam juḍatā hai aur badalatā bhī svayam hai. vah apane hāthakī bāt hai. svabhāvako pahichānanā, usakā puruṣhārtha karanā usake liye ātmā svatantra hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- matalab karmakā bandhan ātmāko us jātakā hai hī nahīn?

samādhānaḥ- karmakā bandhan to hai, bandhan hai. use karmakā bandhan, āṭh prakārake karma jīvako bandhate haĩn. gnānako rokanevāle, darshanako rokanevāle, mohanīyamen nimitta ho,

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mohamen nimitta ho, ye rog āye, paise mile aise āṭh prakārake karma haĩn. parantu vah apane bhāvako nahīn badalate. apane bhāv jo rāg-dveṣh ho, usamen nimitta haĩn. lekin bhāv karatā hai svayam. puruṣhārthase badal sakatā hai. utanā jīv usamen svatantra hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ho sake tab tak karma nahīn bāndhanā aisā jo kahate hain, vah vastu...?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, karmakā bandhan jab tak svayam rāg aur dveṣh, kaṣhāy hote hain, tab tak karmakā bandhan khaḍā hī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- utanā apane ātmāko sākṣhāt karanemen samay lagatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, bīchamen samay lagatā hai. jab tak usamen rukā hai, tab tak samay lagatā hai. isīliye guru aur āchārya kahate hain ki tū puruṣhārtha karake terī or jā, tū usakā bhedagnān kara. ye rāg terā svarūp nahīn hai, ye dveṣh terā svarūp nahīn hai. tū usase bhinna hai. tū jānanevālā hai. usakā tū gnātā ho jā, sākṣhī ho jā. vah terā svarūp nahīn hai. tu puruṣhārtha kara. isaliye usake jo vikalpa hain, vah shānta hote haĩn. usakā bhedagnān karake āge baḍhe. abhī chhūṭ nahīn sakate. pahale usase bhedagnān karatā hai, svabhāv pahichānatā hai ki yah merā svabhāv hai aur ye sab kaṣhāy-krodh, mānādi vah bhinna haĩn. main unase bhinna hū̃n. aise bhedagnān karatā hai.

phir dhīre-dhīre puruṣhārtha karatā huā, usamen līnatā karate-karate svānubhūtikī ugratā karatā hai. ataḥ dhīre-dhīre pahale to use samyagdarshan hotā hai. phir use munidashā ātī hai. svānubhūti baḍhatī hai isaliye munidashā ātī hai. gharabār chhoḍakar akele ātmāmen rahatā hai. kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen ātmākī svānubhūtimen rahatā hai. aisā karate-karate jab use kevalagnān hotā hai tab pūrṇatā hotī hai. phir sarva kamākā kṣhay ho jātā hai, vītarāgī dashā hotī hai.

lekin abhī gr̥uhasthāshramamen to vah bhedagnān karatā hai. ye jo kaṣhāy hain, vah merā svarūp nahīn hai. main usase bhinna chaitanya hū̃n. main nirmal svabhāvī shuddhātmā hū̃n. aisā karake svayam apanā gnān karake us or jhukatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sansāramen rahakar is prakārakā ātma sākṣhātkār athavā is orakī mehanat ho sakatī hai?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, ho sakatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- usake liye ye sab chhoḍanā chāhiye?

samādhānaḥ- nahīn, bāharakā chhoḍanā chāhiye, aisā nahīn hai. bāharakā kab chhūṭ jāy? ki jab use munidashā ātī hai na, yathārtha munidashā āye tab chhūṭ jāya. pahale use yathārtha gnān ho, ātmāko pahichāne, usamen ekāgratā ho, vah sab gr̥uhasthāshramamen ho sakatā hai. usakī ruchi badal sakatā hai. bhāv palaṭanā apane hāthakī bāt hai. bāharakā gr̥uhasthāshram

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ho to bhī antarakī ruchi badal denī ki ye jo rāg aur dveṣh aur anek jātake jo vikalpa āte hain, vah ākulatā merā svarūp nahīn hai, main usase bhinna hū̃n. aise gr̥uhasthāshramamen itanā karake apane svabhāvako pahichāne. main yah chaitanya hūn̐, isamen ānanda hai, isamen nahīn hai. usakā bhedagnān karake vikalpa toḍakar svānubhūti kar sake aisā gr̥uhasthāshramamen kar sakatā hai.

phir svānubhūti baḍhate-baḍhate use tyāg ho jātā hai. svānubhūti gr̥uhasthāshramamen kar sakatā hai. antarase nyārā ho jātā hai. chakravartī the to gr̥uhasthāshramamen rahakar ātmākī svānubhūti karate the. kṣhaṇamātra ātmākā dhyān ho jāy aisā gr̥uhasthāshramamen usako ho sakatā hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!

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