Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 280.

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રુચિ બદલાય તો ઉપયોગ બદલાય તે વિષે...    0   Play
ruchi badalāy to upayog badalāy te viṣhe...    0   Play

ભેદજ્ઞાન કેવી રીતે થાય?    4:40   Play
bhedagnān kevī rīte thāy?    4:40   Play

વસ્તુના બંધારણની સમજણમાં કાંઈક ખોટ હોય તો જ્ઞાયકને પકડવો મુશ્કેલ પડે છે કે જ્ઞાયકના વલણમાં, એ ખોટ સુધરી જાય છે?    6:10   Play
vastunā bandhāraṇanī samajaṇamān kāīk khoṭ hoy to gnāyakane pakaḍavo mushkel paḍe chhe ke gnāyakanā valaṇamān, e khoṭ sudharī jāy chhe?    6:10   Play

બહારથી બધુ ગોતે છે તે વિષે    6:55   Play
bahārathī badhu gote chhe te viṣhe    6:55   Play

આત્મા પ્રાપ્ત કરવાથી આનંદ થાય ? તેનું શું શબ્દોમાં વર્ણન થઈ શકે?    8:05   Play
ātmā prāpta karavāthī ānand thāy ? tenun shun shabdomān varṇan thaī shake?    8:05   Play

આપણા કરતાં તિર્ચંયમાં શું વધારે પુરુષાર્થ હશે ત્યારે તેને આનંદની અનુભૂતિ થતી હશે ને?    10:00   Play
āpaṇā karatān tirchanyamān shun vadhāre puruṣhārtha hashe tyāre tene ānandanī anubhūti thatī hashe ne?    10:00   Play

સોનગઢ શું છે તે આપ બતાવશો?    12:30   Play
sonagaḍh shun chhe te āp batāvasho?    12:30   Play

ભગવાનને બાહ્ય દ્રષ્ટિથી જુએ છે......    17:30   Play
bhagavānane bāhya draṣhṭithī jue chhe......    17:30   Play

શેના વડે ભેદજ્ઞાન કરવું?    18:35   Play
shenā vaḍe bhedagnān karavun?    18:35   Play

samādhānaḥ- ruchi badale to upayog badale. ruchi ho to hī upayog bāhar jātā ho vah (andar ātā hai). ruchi badalanī. sab asār hai. sārabhūt tattva ho to ek chaitanya hī hai. sārabhūt tattvako grahaṇ karanekī ruchi utpanna ho to upayog palaṭatā hai. ananta kāl-se sab kiyā hai bāharakā, parantu antaramen dr̥uṣhṭi nahīn kī hai. antar dr̥uṣhṭi kare, antarakī ruchi kare to hī upayog apanī or jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- usake pahale sirpha pāpamen paḍe ho to kaṣhāyakī mandatā karanī, aisā hotā hai yā sīdhī ruchi palaṭ jātī hai?

samādhānaḥ- ruchi palaṭe to hī kaṣhāyakī mandatā hotī hai. kaṣhāyakī mandatā to bīchamen (ho jātī hai). jise ātmā taraphakī ruchi ho, use tīvra kaṣhāy nahīn hote. usake kaṣhāy manda paḍ jāte haĩn. use jo andar ātmā taraph ruchi jāge, use sarva kaṣhāy, rāg-dveṣh ākulatā sab phikā paḍ jātā hai.

jise antarakī ruchi nahīn hai, vah bāhar-se kaṣhāy kadāchit manda kare yā yah achchhā nahīn hai, ye hitarūp nahīn hai, aise oghe oghe kare, kaṣhāy phike paḍe aisā to jīvane ananta kālamen bahut kiyā hai. shubhabhāv kiye haĩn. kaṣhāy phike kiye, tyāg kiyā, upavās kiye, munipanā liyā. sab ātmāke lakṣhya vihīn bahut kriyāen̐ kī, shubhabhāv kiye, sab kiyā, parantu vah sab binā ek aṅkake shūnya jaisā huā hai. kyoṅki ātmā kyā hai, us taraphakī ruchi binā kaṣhāy manda kare to use kahīn dharmakā lābh yā svabhāv pragaṭ nahīn hotā. mātra ban̐dhatā hai, puṇya-se devalok mile. to devalok-se kahīn bhavakā abhāv nahīn hotā. vaise devake bhav jīvane ananta kiye haĩn. usamen kahīn ātmā nahīn hai. devalokamen bhī ākulatā hai.

isaliye samajhe binā kaṣhāy manda karanā, (usase) puṇyabandha hotā hai. usamen-se kahīn ātmākī prāpti nahīn hotī. ātmākī prāpti to svabhāvake lakṣhya-se main kaun hūn̐? merā kyā svarūp hai? dharma kahān̐ rahā hai? vah sab vichār karake nirṇay kare, antarakī ruchi kare to dharma hotā hai. bāharake kaṣhāy mātra manda karane-se dharma hotā nahī̃n. aisā to jīvane ananta kālamen kaṣhāy manda kiye, tyāg kiyā, sab bahut kiyā hai. isamen sukh

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nahīn hai, yah hit nahīn hai, yah dharma nahīn hai, aisā karake kaṣhāy phike kiye.

jise ātmākī ruchi ho usake kaṣhāy sahaj hī phike paḍ jāte haĩn. jise ātmā hī ruchatā hai, dūsarā kuchh ruchatā nahīn, ātmā hī jise iṣhṭa hai, use bāhya kaṣhāy sukharūp nahīn lagate. vah to use phik paḍ hī jāte haĩn. jo ātmārthī huā, jise ātmākā prayojan hai use kaṣhāyommenn tīvratā nahīn rahatī, mandatā ho jātī hai. vah usase pīchhe haṭ jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- arthāt pahale-se hī gnāyakake lakṣhyakī shurūāt...?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, gnāyakake lakṣhya-se shurūāt hotī hai. vahī shurūāt hai. usamen sab samā jātā hai. ruchi, kaṣhāyakī mandatā, sab usamen samā jātā hai. gnāyakake lakṣhya- se shurūāt karanī hai. main kaun hūn̐? main tattva kaun hūn̐? us tattvakā nirṇay karanā. vichār karake usakā nirṇay kare. gnāyakake lakṣhya binā ananta kālamen bahut kuchh kiyā, parantu mūl tattva grahaṇ kiye binā binā aṅkake shūnya jaisā huā. kisake liye karatā hūn̐? chaitanyatattvakā astitva grahaṇ nahīn kiyā, mātra shubhabhāv hue haĩn.

.. lakṣhya kare to antaramen ānanda bharā hai. ananta gnān antaramen hai. svānubhūti sab antaramen rahī hai. bhedagnān kare. vikalpa ṭūṭakar ātmā nirvikalpa tattva hai, usakī svānubhūti antar dr̥uṣhṭi karane-se hotī hai, bāhar-se nahīn hotā. bāhar-se sab kiyā. sab raṭ liyā, paḍh liyā, samajhe binā dhyān kiyā, sab kiyā. parantu ātmākā astitva grahaṇ kiye binākā vah sab mātra shubhabhāvarūp huā.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhedagnān kaise karanā?

samādhānaḥ- bhedagnān chaitanyako pahachānane-se hotā hai. main yah chaitanya (hūn̐). apanā astitva grahaṇ kare ki main yah gnāyak gnānasvarūp ātmā hū̃n. yah sab mujh-se bhinna hai. ye sharīr aur vibhāvabhāv jo antaramen bhāv hote hain, vah svabhāv bhī merā nahīn hai, main usase bhinna hū̃n. aise gnāyak, main chaitanya gnāyak hī hūn̐, aisā nirṇay karake usakā astitva grahaṇ kare. phir usakā abhyās kare. pahale to abhyāsarūp hotā hai. sahaj dashā to bādamen hotī hai.

abhyās kare ki main gnāyak hū̃n. gnāyakakī hī use mahimā āye, bākī sab mahimā chhūṭ jāya. gnāyakamen sab bharā hai. use anubhūtike pahale vah vedanamen nahīn ātā, parantu vah nirṇay karatā hai ki gnāyakamen hī sab hai. gnān-gnāyak padārtha pūrā mahimāvant hai. gnāyakakā abhyās kare ki main sarvase bhinna, bhinna, bhinna aisā kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen usīkā abhyās kare. to usamen use bhedagnān hotā hai. usakā abhyās kare. aur shubhabhāvamen sachche dev- guru aur shāstra use shubhabhāvanāmen hote haĩn. antaramen gnāyakakā bhedagnān kaise ho? bārambār

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gnāyakakā abhyās kare. .. paradravyakā kyā? sab nakkī karake phir gnāyakakā abhyās kare.

mumukṣhuḥ- vastukā bandhāraṇ samajhanemen kuchh kṣhati rah jāy to gnāyakako pakaḍanā mushkil paḍe yā gnāyakake jhukāvamen vah kṣhati sudhar jātī hai?

samādhānaḥ- usakī gnānamen bhūl ho to ... parantu ruchi yadi use barābar ho ki mujhe gnāyak hī grahaṇ karanā hai. vichār karake bhī usakī gnānamen bhūl ho to gnānakī bhūl nikal jātī hai, usakī ruchi yathārtha ho to.

mujhe chaitanya kyā padārtha hai, yah nakkī karanā hai. bāhar kahīn use ruchi lage nahīn, svabhāvakī hī ruchi lage. to vichār karake gnānamen bhūl ho to bhī nikal jātī hai, yadi use yathārtha lagan lagī ho to. gnānamen bhūl ho to nikal jātī hai.

.. bāhar-se milegā, bāhar-se khojatā hai. antaramen sab hai. usakī use pratīti nahīn hai, ruchi nahīn hai, isaliye bāhar-se khojatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ...

samādhānaḥ- (kyā) padārtha hai, kyā vastu hai? kisamen dharma hai? kisamen gnān hai? kisamen darshan hai? samyagdarshan kisamen hai? chāritra kisamen hai? sab nakkī kare. chāritra mātra bāhar-se nahīn ātā. chāritra chaitanyake svabhāvamen hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- chaitanyamen yadi ruchi ho to āge baḍhe.

samādhānaḥ- to āge baḍhe. gnān, darshan, chāritra sab ātmāmen bharā hai. bāhar to mātra shubhabhāv hote haĩn. vah to puṇyabandhakā kāraṇ hai. andar svabhāvamen-se sab pragaṭ hotā hai, gnān, darshan, chāritra ādi saba.

samādhānaḥ- .. ruchi lagāne jaisī hai, puruṣhārtha vah karane jaisā hai, sab karane jaisā hai. parantu svayam bāharamen ruk jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ātmā prāpta karane-se jo ānanda ho, usakā shabdamen varṇan ho sake aisā ānanda hai?

samādhānaḥ- shabdamen varṇan nahīn hotā. ātmākā svabhāvakā ānanda to anupam hai. use koī upamā lāgū nahīn paḍatī, jagatake koī padārthakī. kyoṅki ye bāharakā hai vah to rāgamishrit jaḍ padārtha najar āte haĩn. ātmākā jo svabhāv chaitanyamūrti, usamen jo chaitanyakā ānanda hai aur chaitanyakā ānanda jo antaramen ānanda sāgar svataḥ svabhāv hī usakā bharā hai. us par dr̥uṣhṭi karake, usakā bhedagnān vibhāv-se bhinna hokar, vikalpa chhūṭakar andar jo nirvikalpa tattva pragaṭ ho, usakī koī upamā bāharamen nahīn hai. vah anupam hai. usakī koī upamā nahīn hai.

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jagat-se jātyāntar alag hī ānanda hai. usakī jāt kisīke sāth milatī nahī̃n. koī devalokakā sukh yā chakravartīkā rāj yā kisīke sāth usakā mel nahīn hai. vah sab vibhāvik hai, sab rāgamishrit hai. jisake sāth rāg rahā hai, usake sāth mel nahīn hai. andar ūchchase ūchcha shubhabhāv ho to bhī vah shubhabhāv hai. shubhabhāvake sāth bhī usakā mel nahīn hai. shubhabhāv-se bhī bhinna shuddhātmā hai.

manda kaṣhāy ho. main gnān hūn̐, main darshan hūn̐, main chāritra hū̃n. pahale shurūātamen vah sab vikalpa āte haiain, ātma svabhāvako pahichānaneke liye, to bhī vah vikalpa mishrit jo rāg hai, usake sāth ātmāke ānandakā mel nahīn hai. ātmākā ānanda to usase alag hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- apane-se tiryañchakā kuchh jyādā puruṣhārtha hogā tabhī use anubhūti hotī hogī.

samādhānaḥ- us apekṣhā-se, anubhūti usane prāpta kī us apekṣhā-se usakā puruṣhārtha jyādā hai aisā kah sakate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- use to kṣhayopashamakā utanā ughāḍ bhī nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- ughāḍake sāth use sambandha nahīn hai. prayojanabhūt tattvako jāne isaliye ātmākī svānubhūti pragaṭ hotī hai. jyādā shāstrakā gnān ho yā jyādā shāstra paḍhe ho, usake sāth (sambandha nahīn hai).

.. ātmākā svarūp main chaitanya padārtha, apane dravya-guṇ-paryāy aur parapadārthake, utanā mūl prayojanabhūt jāne to usamen svānubhūti hotī hai. usakā bhedagnān kare ki yah sharīr so main nahīn hūn̐, ye vibhāv shubhāshubhabhāv bhī merā svarūp nahīn hai. main usase bhinna, ananta guṇ-se bharapūr, ananta shaktiyon-se bharā ātmatattva hū̃n. aisā vikalpa nahīn, parantu aise apane astitvako grahaṇ karake usakā bhedagnān kare. us bhedakī sahaj dashā pragaṭ karake andar vikalpa chhūṭakar sthir ho jāy, usakī shraddhā-pratīt karake, gnān karake usamen sthir ho jāy to use bhedagnān nirvikalpa svānubhūti hotī hai. usamen jyādā shāstra abhyāsakī jarūrat nahīn hai.

vah to nahīn ho tabatak use shubhabhāvamen rahaneke liye visheṣh gnānakī nirmalatā ho, isaliye shāstrakā abhyās kare. parantu jyādā jāne to hī ho, aisā sambandha nahīn hai. use kṣhayopashamake sāth koī sambandha nahīn hai. use apanī antar pariṇati palaṭaneke liye prayojanabhūt tattvako jāne, usakī shraddhā kare aur usamen sthir ho to use hotā hai.

shivabhūti muni kuchh nahīn jānate the. gurune kahā ki mātuṣh aur māruṣha. rāg-dveṣh mat kara. vah shabda bhūl gaye. gurune kyā kahā thā vah shabda bhūl gaye. phir ek bāī

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dāl dho rahī thī. mere gurune yah kahā thā. ye chhilakā alag aur dāl alaga. vaise ātmā bhinna hai aur ye vibhāv bhinna hai. aise gurukā āshay pakaḍakar andar bhedagnān karake antaramen sthir ho gaye to svānubhūti to huyī, apitu itane āge baḍh gaye ki unhen kevalagnān pragaṭ ho gayā. mūl prayojanabhūt tattva jāne, isaliye āge nikal jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- main talod hameshā jātā hū̃n. ek bhāī kahate hain, sonagaḍhamen kuchh nahīn hai. isaliye mainne kahā, chaliye sonagaḍhamẽn. kyā hai, kyā nahīn hai. āp kuchh batāīye ki sonagaḍhamen kyā hai?

samādhānaḥ- sonagaḍhamen gurudev barason tak rahe. gurudevakī pāvan bhūmi hai. gurudev jab virājate the tab to kuchh alag hī thā. ye gurudevakī bhūmi hai. yahān̐ dev-guru- shāstrakā sānnidhya hai. aur chaitanyako jo pahichāne, usakī ruchi kare to vah ruchi ho sake aisā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- yahān̐ anubhūti puruṣh svayam hī virājamān hai. mātājī svayam hī hai. usase visheṣh kyā hogā. log virodh karate hain, to vāstavamen use anubhūtikā jor nahīn hai, yah nakkī hotā hai.

samādhānaḥ- sabake bhāv svatantra hai. pratyek ātmā svatantra hai. sabake bhāv sabake pāsa.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. aur paṇḍitonne..

samādhānaḥ- sab shiṣhyonne sunā hai, sabane svīkār kiyā hai. sabane pramod-se svīkr̥ut kiyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- phūlachandajī ekabār airoplenakī bāt karate the ki main airoplenamen baiṭhā thā. phir jab hilane lagā to mere pās gurudevakā phoṭo thā. mainne kasakar gurudevakā phoṭo pakaḍ liyā, utanemen to plen ekadam sthir ho gayā. phūlachandajī svayam kahate the.

samādhānaḥ- jāt-jātakā kahe.

mumukṣhuḥ- jab gurudev yahān̐ virājate the taba.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, virājate the taba. prabhāvanā yog, gurudevakī vāṇī aur unakā gnān aisā thā ki use dekhakar logoṅko āshcharya hotā thā ki ye koī tīrthaṅkarakā jīv hī hai. aisā hotā thā.

muumukṣhuḥ- upādān-nimittakī bāt gurudevane jo antaramen-se prakāshit kī, vah bāt hī kahān̐ thī.

samādhānaḥ- kahān̐ thī. sab bāt spaṣhṭa kī. upādān-nimitta, dravya, guṇ, paryāy,

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ātmā bhinna, dharma kriyā-se nahīn hai, dharma antaramen hai, shubhabhāv puṇyabandha hai. andar shuddhātmāmen pariṇati pragaṭ hone-se dharma hotā hai. sab unhonne prakāshit kiyā hai. samayasārakā artha kaun samajhatā thā? ek-ek shabdakā artha karanevālā kaun thā? koī bhī shāstra le, usake ek-ek shabdakā artha kholanevālā thā kaun? koī khol nahīn sakatā thā.

abhī gurudevake pratāp-se sab shāstra paḍhane lage. ek shabdakā artha kholakar, ek- ek shabdakā artha kholakar kitanā samay, usamen kitanā vistār karate the. vah kisīmen shakti nahīn hai. abhī koī paṇḍit aisā kar nahīn sakate haĩn. samayasār yā adhyātma shāstroṅko kaun jānatā thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- digambar to aisā samajhate the ki ham to janma-se hī samyagdr̥uṣhṭi hai. phir to bāt hī kahān̐ rahī.

samādhānaḥ- janma-se ho sakatā hai? vāḍā mātra kahīn samyagdarshan detā nahī̃n. samyagdarshan to ātmāmen pragaṭ hotā hai. ananta kāl-se jīvane.. kahate hain na ki pañchamakālamen tīrthaṅkarakā jīv āye to bhī māne nahī̃n. ananta kālamen samavasaraṇamen-se jīv aise hī vāpas ātā hai. samavasaraṇamen bhagavān mile to bhī svany apanī ichchhānusār pariṇati pragaṭ karatā hai. sab svatantra hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gurudevane prakāshamen rakhā to yahī paṇḍit log chūn̐.. chūn̐.. karate the. yehī paṇḍit the. gurudevane tattva prakāshit kiyā tab bhī itanā hī uhāpoh karate the. jahān̐- tahān̐ pempaleṭ pheṅkate the. unake virūddhamen likhate the, aise hai, vaise hai, kitanā likhate the.

samādhānaḥ- svayaṅko sudharanā hai (aur) dūsareko sudhāranā hai. pahale apane ātmākā kalyāṇ kare. dūsareko sudhāraneke liye mānon koī mārga nahīn jānate hain, ham hī jānate haĩn. aisā un logoṅko ho gayā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āpake āshīrvād-se pañch kalyāṇak bahut achchhī tarah ujavāye. sab tan-man-se aise juḍ jāy ki sonagaḍhamen ronak ho jāya.

samādhānaḥ- sabakī bhāvanā hai, bhāvanā-se sab kiyā hai aur gurudevakā pratāp hai. samādhānaḥ- jīv vāpas ātā hai. mātra bāhya dr̥uṣhṭi-se dekhatā hai. antar dr̥uṣhṭi- se dekhā nahīn hai, bhagavānako pahachānā nahīn hai. tere ātmāmen hī sab hai. andar gaharāīmen ūtarakar dekha. samavasaraṇamen jaise bhagavān hon, vaise shāshvat nandīshvaramen shāshvat bhagavān haĩn. kudaratakī rachanā aisī banī hai. paramāṇukī rachanā bhagavānarūp ho gayī hai. jinendra devakī jagatamen aisī mahimā hai ki paramāṇu bhī jinendra devarūp pariṇamit ho gaye hain, tīrthaṅkararūp paramāṇu pariṇamit ho jāte haĩn. ratnake rajakaṇ vaise pariṇamit ho jāte haĩn.

.. shāstramen ātā hai na? bhagavānake dravya-guṇ-paryāyako pahichāne to apane dravya-

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guṇ-paryāyako pahachānatā hai. apane dravya-guṇ-paryāyako pahachāne to bhagavānako pahichānatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhedagnān kisase karanā?

samādhānaḥ- antaramen gnān-se bhedagnān karanā. shāstramen ātā hai, pragnā-se grahaṇ karanā, pragnā-se bhinna karanā, sab pragnā-se karanā. parantu vah pragnā kām kab kare? antaramen svayaṅko utanī lage to ho. mātra bolanerūp yā nakkī karanerūp yā vikalparūp ho to vah pragnā andar kām nahīn karatī hai. parantu antaramen svayaṅko lagī ho ki bhinna hī paḍ jānā hai. ekatvabuddhi merā svabhāv nahīn hai, ye ekatvabuddhi jūṭhī hai. main chaitanya bhinna- nyārā hī hū̃n. us nyāreko nyārārūp grahaṇ karanā hai. utanī antar-se laganī lage to usakī pragnā kām kare. mātra buddhi-se jāne to vah gnān gnānarūp pariṇamatā nahī̃n.

gnān gnānarūp kārya kab kare? ki svayaṅko antaramen utanī apanī or ānekī tīkṣhṇatā jāge ki ye chaitanya hī mahimārūp hai aur ye ekatvabuddhi aur ye vibhāv ākulatārūp hai, utanā yadi use antaramen ho to vah antaramen-se vāpas muḍe. parantu usakā sādhan gnān (hai). gnān-se grahaṇ hotā hai, gnān-se bhinna paḍatā hai. sab gnān-se hotā hai. parantu pariṇati palaṭe kab? antaramen svayaṅko utanī thakān lagī ho, andar-se svayaṅko svabhāv grahaṇ karanekī utanī tamanna lagī ho to ho. nahīn to buddhi-se grahaṇ kar le ki main bhinna, yah bhinna. parantu usakā tīvra abhyās kab ho? yadi svayaṅko lage to ho.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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