Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 54.

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mumukṣhuḥ- pravachanasār shāstramen bhī hai ki arihantake dravya-guṇ-paryāyako jo jāne, vah ātmāko jāne.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, usamen ātā hai. arihantake dravya-guṇ-paryāyako jānatā hai vah ātmāke jānatā hai. svayaṅko jāne, vah bhagavānako jāne. bhagavānako jāne, vah svayaṅko jānatā hai. svayaṅko svany dekh nahīn sakatā. bhagavānake darshan kare, bhagavānakī use mahimā āye. guruke darshan kare, gurukī vāṇī sune isaliye guru par, bhagavān par use mahimā ātī hai. usamense use vichār āte hain ki bhagavān māne kyā? bhagavānakā dravya kyā? unakā ātmā kyā kām karatā hai? unako kaun-se guṇ pragaṭ hue hain? aise vichār karatā hai.

bhagavānake dravya-guṇ-paryāyakā jo yathārtharūpase vichār karatā hai, vahān̐ apane dravya- guṇ-paryāyakā vichār ātā hai ki bhagavān ātmā hai. ātmāmen ananta guṇ haĩn. unhonne puruṣhārtha karake pragaṭ kiye haĩn. bhagavānakā ātmā hai vaisā merā ātmā hai. aise bhagavānako pahachānakar bhī apanī or jātā hai. yadi yathārtha pahachāne to svayaṅko pahachānatā hai. yathārtharūpase pahachāne to.

guru sādhan kar rahe haĩn. koī vāṇī apūrva barasāte haĩn. unakā ātmā kyā kām karatā hai? aise vichār karate-karate apane ātmākā vichār ātā hai. shāstrake vichār (karatā hai). shāstramen tattvakī bāt ātī hai. usamen use āshcharya lagatā hai. vichār kare ki shāstramen yah bāt ātī hai. usamense apane vichār āte haĩn.

lekin pratyakṣha jo hai vah pariṇati palaṭanekā kāraṇ banatā hai. ek bār pratyakṣha dev aur pratyakṣha guru mile to apanī pariṇati-samyagdarshan prāpta honekā kāraṇ banatā hai. phir shāstra, ek bār sunaneke bād shāstra paḍhe vah alag bāt hai. parantu pratyakṣha hote hain vah use pariṇati palaṭanekā kāraṇ banatā hai. aisā nimitta-naimittik sambandha hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- antaranā bhāve vadhāvie..

samādhānaḥ- antaranā bhāve vadhāvie.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah bhakti dekhakar aisā lagatā hai ki gnānīko kis prakār yah shubharāg

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heyabuddhise āyā hai? vah kaise banatā hogā? āpane das minaṭ hī vahān̐ bhakti karavāyī thī, is vakta sabake bīch utane bhāvase nahīn batā sakatā, lekin āpake bhāvapūrvak jab bhakti ātī ho...

samādhānaḥ- antaramen donon rahatā hai. ekatva pariṇati ho nahīn aur bhāv ekadam joradār āye. dūsareko aisā lage ki aisī kaisī bhāvanā ātī hai? pariṇati ekatva ho nahīn aur bhinna rahakar bhāvanā āye.

mumukṣhuḥ- vahī āshcharya utpanna karatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- gnāyakakī pariṇati bhinna rahe aur bhāvanā bhī aisī āye. āvo āvo padhāro bhāvinā bhagavān, antarathī bhāve vadhāvie.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut sundara. āpane jis bhāvase gāyā thā..

mumukṣhuḥ- jagatakā yah ek āshcharya hai ki ekasāth do kām is prakār hote haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- ek pariṇatimen hai, ek upayogamen hai. parantu bhedagnānakī dhārā vaisī kī vaisī chālū ho to bhī vaise bhāv āte haĩn. usamen use virodh nahīn hotā.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānīkī is sthitikā, mātājī! agnānīko andāj ānā bahut mushkil hai.

samādhānaḥ- shāstramen ātā hai aur gurudev bahut bār kahate the ki gnāyakakī dhārā pragaṭ honeke bād jo bhāvanā ātī hai, usakī sthiti adhik nahīn paḍatī parantu ras adhik paḍatā hai. use dev-shāstra-guru par jo bhāvanā ātī hai ki yah merī jo sādhanā hai, yah gnāyakakī dhārā, chaitanyadev jisane pragaṭ kiyā hai aur usakī jo sādhanā kī hai aur upakārī guru hain, unhonne jo mārga batāyā hai, un par jo bhāv āye, gnāyakakī jo svayaṅko prīti hai, usamen jo nimitta bane, jo upakār kiyā hai, vah jinhonne pragaṭ kiyā hai, un par jo bhāv ātā hai, antaramen jo gnāyakakī mahimā hai, vah bāhar āye to dev-guru-shāstra par bhī use aisī hī mahimā ātī hai. isaliye usakā bahut dikhatā hai ki māno ekatva ho jātā ho.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhāv to mātājī! pratyakṣha dekhe haiain ki kaise bhāv ā sakate haĩn.

nathī kalagī ke hār hem kuṇḍanā, nathī motī māṇek mahā mūlanā,
mātra haiyānā ūn̐ḍā umaḷakā taiyār, antarathī bhāve vadhāvie.
tum sevā taṇī ghaṇī kāmanā, ame jāp japīe tum nāmanā.
kyāthī pagalā panotā bhāvinā bhagavān, antarathī bhāve vadhāvie.
shānt sādā amārā chhe āṅgaṇā, shānt sādā amārā vadhāmaṇā,
mātra

antarathī daiye vadhāī, antarathī bhāve vadhāvie,

āvo āvo padhāro bhāvinā bhagavān, antarathī bhāve vadhāvie.

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lokamen aisā koī gīt hai, us parase banāyā hai. pahale gurudevake liye gāyā thā. kahīn chhapā bhī thā. kahīn par chhapā thā. parantu gnāyakadhārāko koī dikkat nahīn ātī. chāhe jaise bhāv bāharamen dikhāī de, to bhī.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut .. lagatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- ek vikalparūp shraddhā alag bāt hai aur ek sahaj pariṇati alag bāt hai. gnāyakakī sahaj pariṇati vah alag bāt hai. aur vikalpa karake shraddhā rakhe vah ek alag bāt hai. parantu jabatak nahīn hotā hai, tabatak bhāvanā aur prayās mumukṣhuko chālū rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jab vikalparūp bhāv bāhar jāe, tab antaramen bhī pariṇati vr̥uddhigat hotī hogī na?

samādhānaḥ- pariṇati vr̥uddhigat... gnāyakakī dhārā, bhedagnānakī dhārā chālū hai. vr̥uddhigat kis prakārakī, usakā artha karanā paḍe.

gnāyak hai, gnānasvabhāvakā nāsh nahīn huā hai. gnānasvabhāv to usakā hai hī. gnāyak gnāyakarūp to pariṇamit ho hī rahā hai. gnāyak pragaṭarūpase nahīn pariṇamatā hai. lekin gnāyak gnāyakarūp hai, parantu svayam bhrāntimen paḍā hai. isaliye lakṣhya nahīn jātā. usakī dr̥uṣhṭi bāhar hai. jo bāharakā dikhatā hai use apanā mānatā hai, svayaṅko bhūl gayā hai. bākī svayaṅkā nāsh nahīn huā hai. svayam svayanrūp (hī hai). jo anādiananta hai vah pāriṇāmikabhāvarūp pariṇamatā hī hai. parantu usakī dr̥uṣhṭi, svayam bhrāntimen paḍā hai, isaliye jānanemen nahīn ātā. bākī jaisā hai vaisā anādikā hai hī. anādi jo usakā svabhāv hai us svabhāvakā nāsh nahīn huā hai aur pāriṇāmikabhāv aisā hai ki gnāyak gnāyakarūp, gnān gnānarūp (hai). svayam bhagavān ātmā svanyase hī jānanemen ā rahā hai, parantu svayam bhrāntimen paḍā hai, use dekhatā nahīn isaliye jānanemen nahīn ātā. svayam dekhatā hī nahīn, isaliye kahān̐se jānanemen āye? aur dr̥uṣhṭi bāhar hai, parakī shraddhā kar rahā hai, par- orakā gnān kar rahā hai. sab parakī or kar rahā hai.

shraddhā, gnān, ācharaṇ sab bāharakā kar rahā hai. par padārthako apanā mān rahā hai. vibhāv pariṇati hotī hai, vah sab meremen ho rahī hai. dr̥uṣhṭikī dishā palaṭ gayī hai. isaliye svayam svayaṅko dekhatā nahī̃n. svayam hai, phir bhī use dekhatā nahīn aur bhrāntimen paḍā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi bāhar hai, isaliye jānanemen nahīn ā sakatā. svayam hone par bhī svayam svayaṅko dekhatā nahīn, yah ek āshcharyakī bāt hai. dr̥uṣhṭi aise (bāhar) hai.

gurudev dr̥uṣhṭānt dete the, aise bāharase gine ki ek, do, tīn, chār, svayaṅko ginanā bhūl jāya. svayam svayanrūp hī hai. svayam svayaṅko jānanemen ā rahā hai, parantu svayam svayaṅko

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bhūlakar dr̥uṣhṭi bāhar kar rahā hai, svayam hone par bhī.

mumukṣhuḥ- prashna pūchhun? bahut prayatna karaneke bād bhī kisī bhī prakārakā manovāñchhit sāhitya paḍhanekī preraṇā hone par bhī vah sāhitya, dhārmik athavā jo bhī paḍhūn̐, us vakta ekadam nidrāvash ho jātā hūn̐, aisā lagatā hai, usake liye kyā kahanā hai?

samādhānaḥ- svayaṅko us prakārakī ruchi kam hai. svayaṅkī mahimā svayaṅko lagatī nahī̃n. bāharakī pravr̥utti aur bāharakā laukik kāyākā ras lag rahā hai. ātmā koī alag hai, usakā svayaṅko ras nahīn hai, usakī ruchi nahīn hai. isaliye usakā man sthir nahīn ho rahā hai. isaliye yadi svayaṅkī mahimā āye, bāharamen nīrasatā lage, bāharamen chitta lage nahīn aisā ho to svayaṅke andar chitta lage. bāharakā ras ekadam tīvra ho to svayaṅkī or jā nahīn sakatā. bāharakā ras use ṭūṭe, bāharakā ras manda ho, bilakūl to chhūṭatā nahīn, parantu manda ras kare aur ātmākā ras baḍhāye, ātmākī mahimā baḍhāye ki ātmāmen sarvasva hai, ātmā koī anupam vastu hai, ātmā koī alaukik hai. usakī mahimā āye to us or usakī ruchi ho.

ātmākā kyā svarūp hai, us or usakī laganī lage. parantu svayaṅko ras hī kam hai. ras kam hai isaliye pramād hotā hai. bāharamen bāharake prayatna hote hain, isaliye antaramen hotā nahī̃n. ras bāharakā lagā hai. bāharakā ras manda ho aur antarakī or ras jāy ki ātmā kyā vastu hai? sukh ātmāmen hai, bāhar nahīn hai. aise andarase nirṇay honā chāhiye. sachchā nirṇay nahīn ho rahā hai, isaliye bāhar bhaṭakatā rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ...

samādhānaḥ- svayaṅke prayatnase lakṣhya badalanā. dr̥uṣhṭi aur upayog donon sab bāhar hī jā rahe haĩn. use badalāye ki yah gnāyak main hū̃n. yah vikalpa jānanemen ātā hai, yah sharīr dikhatā hai vah bāharakā dikhatā hai. usake pīchhe jo gnān hai gnānalakṣhaṇ, vah gnānalakṣhaṇ hai vahī main hū̃n. us or apanī dr̥uṣhṭiko badal denā. usake liye prayatna kare ki yah gnānalakṣhaṇ hai vah main hū̃n. vah lakṣhaṇ mātra nahīn, parantu vah vastu hī main hū̃n. main gnāyak hū̃n. aise dr̥uṣhṭi badalanekā prayatna kare. bārambār prayatna kare. dr̥uṣhṭiko vahān̐ sthir kare aur usakī shraddhā kare, usakā gnān kare. yahī main hūn̐, aise bārambār, bārambār, bārambār kare to gnāyak lakṣhyamen āye. bārambār kare.

anādikā abhyās hai isaliye bāharakā sab jānanemen ātā hai. antaramen bārambār shraddhā sthir karaneke liye prayatna kare. bārambār kare. yah gnān main hūn̐, yah main nahīn hū̃n. is gnāyakamen hī sab hai. bāharamen nahīn hai, aise bārambār prayās kare to hotā hai. jojo vikalpa āye, usake pīchhe jo gnān rahā hai, jānanevālā hai, vah jānanevālā main hū̃n.

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vah sab paryāyen to chalī jātī hain, vikalpakī, vibhāvakī sab, aur jānanevālā khaḍā rahatā hai. jo-jo banā vah sab jānanevāleko khyāl hai ki yah huā, yah huā. vah jānanevālā jo hai, vah jānanevālā hī main hū̃n. usakā astitva grahaṇ kare, bārambār kare. bārambār prayatna kare. jabatak nahīn ho tabatak usakā prayās karatā rahe, bārambār karatā rahe. nahīn hot tabatak usake vichār, usakā vāñchan ādi sab kare. svādhyāy (kare). ātmā sambandhit jisamen svayaṅko ras āye vah karatā rahe, bārambār karatā rahe. gurune kyā kahā hai, shāstramen kyā ātā hai, vah sab bārambār karatā rahe, dr̥uṣhṭi badalaneke liye.

andarakī ruchi baḍhānī chāhiye. antarakī mahimā āye. kahīn bhī sthir ho jānā vah yogya nahīn hai, parantu satya kyā hai, yah nakkī karanā paḍe. koī bhī sāhitya aur kuchh bhī paḍhanā (aisā nahīn honā chāhiye). ātmā sambandhit ho vahī bhavake abhāvakā kāraṇ hai. dūsarā kuchh bhavake abhāvakā kāraṇ nahīn hotā. bhavakā abhāv karaneke liye satya kyā hai, yah nakkī karake us orakā prayatna kare to bhavakā abhāv hotā hai.

... dr̥uḍhatā ho gayī, parantu usakī visheṣh dr̥uḍhatā, andar gaharāīse visheṣh dr̥uḍhatā (karanī). yah satya hai, lekin vah padārtha kaun hai? gnānasvarūp ātmā gnāyak kaun hai? use pragaṭ karaneke liye usakī shraddhā karake bārambār prayatna kare. satya yah hai, parantu us prakārase andar svayaṅko pahachān honī chāhiye. us prakārase usakī shraddhā, usakī pratīt, usakā gnān, usakī dr̥uḍhatā honī chāhiye. andar gaharāīse kaise pragaṭ ho, aise usakī ruchi laganī chāhiye. shraddhā ho, vikalpase shraddhā kī parantu antaramen svayaṅko laganā chāhiye ki satya yahī hai. usakī mahimā laganī chāhiye. bāharakī sab mahinā chhūṭ jāya. antaramen laganā chāhiye. bārambār shraddhāko dr̥uḍh kare. vastu hai usako pahachānanekā prayatna kare, use khojanekā prayatna kare. bārambār use khoje. yah gnāyak hai, us par dr̥uṣhṭi, usakā gnān, usake bhedagnānakā bārambār prayās kare. main to bhinna hī hūn̐, yah sab bhinna hai. yah vibhāv bhī merā svabhāv nahīn hai. usase bhī main bhinna hū̃n. aise bārambār dr̥uḍhatā karatā rahe.

muktikā mārga, use ātmākā-svabhāvakā ras lagā to vah kaise pragaṭ ho aur kaise mere hāthamen āye, aise bārambār prayatna karatā rahe. shraddhāmātrase, vikalpase jān liyā to vaise pragaṭ nahīn hotā. parantu usakā āge-āge prayās karatā rahe, use pragaṭ karaneke liye. prayojanabhūt barābar yathārtha jānakar usakī shraddhā karake, vah kaise pragaṭ ho usakā bārambār prayatna kare.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnān prakāsh karatā hai aur shraddhā hai vah shaktioṅko pachātī hai, vahān̐ kyā kahanā hai?

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samādhānaḥ- gnān hai vah prakāsh karatā hai (arthāt) sab vastuoṅkā gnān karatā hai ki vastu svarūp yah hai. aur shraddhā hai vah use barābar nakkī karatī hai. pāchak arthāt use pachātī hai. jahān̐ vastu hai, vahān̐ usakī dr̥uṣhṭiko sthir karatā hai, shraddhā karatā hai. ek vastu par sthir ho jātī hai. aur gnān hai vah vastu svarūp hai use chāron orase jānatā hai. aur dr̥uṣhṭi ek par (sthir ho jātī hai).

... svayam apanese kare to hotā hai. vahān̐ paḍhanā. yahān̐ke shāstra ho, gurudevake pravachan jo samajhamen āye vah paḍhanā. paḍhanake liye kuchh samay rakhanā, kuchh paḍhanā. antar ātmāmen ruchi rakhanī ki yah sab to bāharakā sansār to chalatā hī rahatā hai. andar ātmāmen bhavakā abhāv kaise ho, karane jaisā to vah hai. isaliye bhavakā abhāv kaise ho, usakā vichār karanā, vāñchan karanā. jo samajhamen āye vah paḍhanā. jo sunā ho usakā vichār karanā.

ātmā bhinna, yah sharīr bhinna, sab bhinna hai. ātmā shāshvat hai, yah sab ākulatā hotī hai vah ātmākā svarūp nahīn hai. ātmā siddha bhagavān jaisā hai. usakā bhedagnān kaise ho, ātmā kaise pahachānamen āye, usakā bārambār vichār karate rahanā. use samajhaneke liye vāñchan karanā. vahān̐ dūsarā to kyā ho sakatā hai? andar svayam ātmākī ruchi rakhe to hotā hai. andaramen svayam rakhe. vahān̐ bāharake sādhan to koī hai nahīn, dev- guru-shāstrake koī sādhan nahīn hai, mandir nahīn hai, dev, guru (nahīn hai). shāstra samajhaneke liye koī sādharmī ho, aisā milanā bhī mushkil paḍe. apanese jo samajhamen āye vah paḍhanā. koī ho to bhī kitane dūr-dūr rahate haiaĩn.

... sonagaḍhakā māhol to kuchh alag hī hai, parantu yahān̐ to dev-guru-shāstrake kuchh prasaṅg mile, lekin vahān̐ to kuchh mile aisā nahīn hai. ātmākī ruchi rakhanī, bhavakā abhāv kaise ho? manuṣhya janma mushkilase milatā hai. yah manuṣhya janma aise paiseke liye yā dūsareke liye nahīn hai, parantu ātmākā svarūp kaise pahachānamen āye? bhavakā abhāv kaise ho? usakā vichār karanā. andarase nirlep rahanā, jitanā ban sake utanā vairāgya rakhanā aur paḍhanā. dūsarā koī upāy nahīn hai. svayanse jitanā ho utanā karanā.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!

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