Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 76.

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... સ્વાનુભૂતિ પ્રાપ્ત જીવ હી સ્વાનુભૂતિમેં નિમિત્ત બનતા હૈ અજ્ઞાનીકી વાણી સ્વાનુભૂતિમેં નિમિત્ત નહીં હોતી ઉસકે બારેમેં...    0   Play
... svānubhūti prāpta jīv hī svānubhūtimen nimitta banatā hai agnānīkī vāṇī svānubhūtimen nimitta nahīn hotī usake bāremen...    0   Play

ણમોકાર મંત્રમેં દ્રવ્યલિંગી મુનિકો સ્વીકાર કિયા યા નહીં?    6:55   Play
ṇamokār mantramen dravyaliṅgī muniko svīkār kiyā yā nahīn?    6:55   Play

અમારું કાંઈ કલ્યાણ થાય એવું....    8:10   Play
amārun kāī kalyāṇ thāy evun....    8:10   Play

...રુચિ વધારવા જઈએ છીએ ત્યાં બહારના ઔદયિક ભાવો અને બાહ્ય વ્યવહારમાં અટકી જઈએ તે કઈ ભૂમિકા?    9:10   Play
...ruchi vadhāravā jaīe chhīe tyān bahāranā audayik bhāvo ane bāhya vyavahāramān aṭakī jaīe te kaī bhūmikā?    9:10   Play

પાત્રતા માટે વધારે શું હોય? જિન પ્રતિમાના દર્શન કે તત્ત્વનો વિચાર?    11:30   Play
pātratā māṭe vadhāre shun hoy? jin pratimānā darshan ke tattvano vichār?    11:30   Play

માતાજી! આપના જેવા જ્ઞાની મળ્યા તો કેમ કામ થતું નથી? અમારું જ્ઞાયકનું ઘૂંટણ ખોટું છે કે ખાલી બોલવાનું છે?    13:00   Play
mātājī! āpanā jevā gnānī maḷyā to kem kām thatun nathī? amārun gnāyakanun ghūṇṭaṇ khoṭun chhe ke khālī bolavānun chhe?    13:00   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- ... pūjya bhagavatī mātā! vartamān ... jo koī ham jaise pāpī pravachanakār ban jāy aur kahate hain ki yah deshanākā nimitta ban jāy to gurudevashrīke pravachanamen to aisā ātā thā ki jab-jab jisako ātmākī antar dr̥uṣhṭi aur anubhav hogā, us samayamen koī antaradr̥uṣhṭi guru hī nimitta hotā hai. shāstra, agnānī guru digambaramen janmā ho, jo dravyaliṅgapanemen bhī ātā ho, parantu siddhāntamen to anubhūtivālā guru hī us anubhūtivāleke nimitta hogā, aisā...

samādhānaḥ- aisā nahīn ban sakatā. jisako svānubhūti nahīn huyī, usakā vachan dūsareko deshanālabdhikā kāraṇ nahīn ban sakatā. svayam vyākhyān kare, sab kare parantu vah to svādhyāy hai ek prakārakā. parantu usakā nimitta to jisako pratyakṣha svānubhūti huyī ho, svānubhūtikī dashā, bhedagnānakī dashā (pragaṭ huyī ho), usakī deshanālabdhikā kāraṇ banatā hai. dev aur guru, jisako antarakī dashā pragaṭ huyī hai, aise guru deshanālabdhikā nimitta banate haĩn. jise antar chaitanya pragaṭ huā hai, usakī vāṇī nimitta banatī hai. vāṇī mātra sunī ho utanā hī nahīn, svayaṅko antaramen kuchh apūrvatā lage. sunanese sabako deshanālabdhi ho jāy aisā nahīn hai. jisakī pātratā ho use hotī hai.

bahut bār vāṇī to sunī hai, bhagavān mile hain, sab huā hai parantu antaramen svayaṅkī taiyārīke binā kuchh kar nahīn sakā. guru mile, bhagavān mile mātra sunanese (nahīn hotā hai). antarakī taiyārī kare.... nimitta-upādānakā sambandha honā chāhiye. nimitta to prabal hai. bhagavānakī vāṇīkā nimitta prabal hai. gurukī vāṇī...

gurudev yahān̐ pañchamakālamen padhāre. unakī vāṇīkā nimitta prabal thā. parantu jo pātra ho use deshanālabdhi pragaṭ hotī hai. pātratā svayaṅkī chāhiye. nimitta aur upādānakā sambandha (tab hotā hai).

mumukṣhuḥ- us vakta use antaramense kisī bhī prakārakā anya bhāv utpanna nahīn huā, isaliye jo sunā vah use khyālamen ā gayā ho, bādamen us bhāv parase svayam apane bhāvako jāgr̥ut kar sakatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- pratyakṣha vāṇī sunī ho, vah pratyakṣha hai. karanā kyon? svayam taiyārī

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karanī, to deshanālabdhi ho hī gayī hai, aisā mān lenā. svayam jignāsā taiyār kare aur gurudevane jo kahā ki main gnāyak hūn̐, main ātmā hūn̐, yah vibhāv merā svabhāv nahīn hai, main usase bhinna hū̃n. andar aisī dr̥uḍh pratīt karake bhedagnānakī dhārā pragaṭ karake svayam puruṣhārtha kare to samajh lenā ki deshanālabdhi ho gayī hai.

jo apragaṭ hai, use kahān̐ khojane jānā? usakā santoṣh mānanā,... apragaṭako khojanā usake bajāy jo pragaṭ ho sakatā hai use pragaṭ karanā. pahale hamane sunā hai, deshanālabdhi huyī hogī ki nahīn? ab pragaṭ hogī ki nahīn? aisā vichār karaneke badale svayam gnāyakakī pratīti dr̥uḍh karanī. jignāsā, laganī lagānī. gnāyakakī pratīti dr̥uḍh karanī. bhedagnānakī dhārā, dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi, yathārtha gnān, yathārtha dr̥uṣhṭi sab taiyārī karanekā svayam prayatna karanā. sab pātratā taiyār karanī. puruṣhārtha kare to phir koī rokatā nahī̃n. svayam puruṣhārtha kare to usamen koī rokanevālā nahīn hai. svayam svatantra hai, use jitanī bhī taiyārī karanī ho (usamen). taiyārī kare to samajh lenā, taiyārī ho jāy to mān lenā ki deshanālabdhi ho gayī hai. huyī hai yā nahīn huyī hai, aise apragaṭako khojane jāneke bāvajūd svayam andarase taiyārī karanī.

bhagavānakī vāṇīkā dhodh barasatā ho, unakī vāṇīke nimittase anek jīvoṅko samyagdarshan hotā thā, anek jīv munidashā aṅgīkār karate, anek jīvoṅko kevalagnān hotā thā, sab hotā thā. puruṣhārtha svayam kare to (hotā hai).

vaise hī gurudevakā dhodh barasatā thā, usamen deshanālabdhi na ho aisā nahīn banatā. bahut jīvoṅko hotī hai. jisakī pātratā ho (use hotī hai). unakī vāṇīkā dhodh barasatā thā. use khojane jāy aur santuṣhṭa honā, isake bajāy svayam taiyārī vartamān puruṣhārtha karake kare. ... vaise gurudevakī vāṇī aisī thī ki anek jīvoṅko ruchi taiyār ho jāye, svarūp sanmukh ho jāye, aisī gurudevakī vāṇī thī. yah to pañchamakāl hai, isaliye munidashā aur āge baḍhanā bahut durlabh hai. lekin gurudevakī vāṇīkā dhodh aisā thā ki sabako ruchi pragaṭ ho, andarase mārga prāpta ho jāye, ho sake aisā thā. svayam andarase taiyārī karake, svayam andarase gnāyakakī pratīti dr̥uḍh kare, apane hāthakī bāt hai.

... vah sab to hotā hai. svayam puruṣhārtha kare, pātratā taiyār kare, vah sab apane hāthakī bāt hai. gurudevane kahā hai vahī kahanā hai. svayam antaramense jo gurudevane kahā hai vah karanā hai. isaliye svayaṅko pātratā taiyār karanī hai. usakā kāraṇ svayaṅkī kṣhati hai, svayaṅkā pramād hai. koī rokatā nahīn hai. svayam bāhar aṭakā hai, apanī ruchikī kṣhati hai. svayaṅko utanī laganī nahīn lagī hai ki mujhe ātmākā karanā hī hai. mujhe bhavakā abhāv kaise ho? mujhe ātmā kaise pragaṭ ho? gnāyak kaise samajhamen āye?

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chaitanyadev kaise samajhamen āye? utanī svayaṅko andar lagī nahīn hai, laganī nahīn lagī hai, usakī jarūrat nahīn lagī hai. bāhar rukā hai, puruṣhārtha uṭhanā use mushkil paḍatā hai. svayaṅko andar lagī hai to kare binā rahe nahīn ki yahī karanā hai, dūsarā kuchh nahīn karanā hai. svayaṅkī kṣhati hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- navakār mantrake andar dravyaliṅgī munirājako bhī svīkār nahīn kiyā ki kiyā?

samādhānaḥ- navakār mantramen namaskār āte hain usamen? vah sab bhāvaliṅgī muni hain, bhāvaliṅgī muni hain, sachche muni haĩn. āchārya, upādhyāy, sādhu sab bhāvaliṅgī muni haĩn. unako namaskār kiyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhāvaliṅgī bhagavantoṅko hī navakār mantrake andar liyā gayā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hā̃n. muniko liye haĩn. antaramen jo chhaṭhṭhe-sātaven guṇasthānamen jhulate munirāj haĩn. digambar dashā antaramen aur bāhya. jise antaramen antaraṅg dashā pragaṭ huyī hai, chhaṭhṭhe- sātavān̐ guṇasthānakī, antarmuhūrta-antarmuhūrtamen svānubhūti pragaṭ hotī hai. antarmuhūrta bāhar āye, antarmuhūrtamen andar jāte haĩn. aisī jinakī dashā hai, aise munirājako grahaṇ karanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... hamārā kuchh kalyāṇ ho.

samādhānaḥ- mārga to ek hī hai, ātmākī ruchi baḍhānī, gnāyakako pahachānanā. ātmā par-dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi karanī, bhedagnān karanā, vahī karanekā mārga ek hī hai. shrīmadane bhī vahī kahā hai aur gurudevane vah kahā hai. mārga to ek (hī hai)-ātmāko (pahachānanā). vibhāv apanā svabhāv nahīn hai, (usase) bhinna paḍanā vah hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah baḍhāne jāte hain, vahān̐ bāhya audayik bhāv aur bāhya vyavahāramen aṭak jānā hotā hai. mumukṣhukī kaisī bhūmikā honī chāhiye?

samādhānaḥ- usakā ras svayaṅko andar paḍā hai. chaitanyakī orakā ras baḍhānā chāhiye. bāharake ras phike paḍ jāye. antarakā ras baḍhānā chāhiye, ruchi baḍhānī chāhiye. andar use khaṭak rahanī chāhiye ki mujhe ātmā kaise pahachānamen āye? ātmāmen hī sarvasva hai, bāhar kahīn nahīn hai. ātmā hī sarvasva anupam padārtha hai aur adabhūt padārtha hai, usakī mahimā ānī chāhiye. bāharamen use ras āye, (vah) ras phike paḍ jāye to svayaṅkī or jhuke.

shubh pariṇāmamen dev-guru-shāstra aur antaramen merā shuddhātmā mujhe kaise pahachānamen āye? aisī ruchi andar bārambār (honī chāhiye), bārambār khaṭak rahanī chāhiye ki karanā andar hai, bāhar jānā vah chaitanyakā svarūp nahīn hai. mujhe chaitanya kaise pahachānanemen āye? aisī ruchi andar (hokar) bārambār dr̥uḍhatā karanī chāhiye. ekatvabuddhi to anādikī ho rahī

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hai. andaramen kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen svayam prayās karatā nahī̃n. kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen ekatvabuddhi khaḍī hai. thoḍā karake use aisā lagatā hai ki bahut kiyā. antaramen kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen, main gnāyak hūn̐, yah (vibhāv) merā svarūp nahīn hai. aise mahimā lākar honā chāhiye. gnāyak koī mahimāvant padārtha hai. bolane mātra nahīn, gnāyak aisā jānā, jānane mātra gnāyak aisā nahī̃n. gnāyak ek adabhūt padārtha hai. usakī mahimā lākar bār-bār kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen usakī laganī lage, bārambār us orakā puruṣhārtha kare to hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- shāstra shravaṇ jyādā hotā hai ki jin pratimāke darshan hote hain ki tattva vichār jyādā hote hain? ek karane jāte hain to dūsaremen aṭak jāte hain, dūsaremen karane jāte hain to tīsaremen aṭak jāte haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- dhyey ek shuddhātmākā (honā chāhiye). tattvakā vichār kare, parantu tattva vichāre, pūjāse, usakī bhaktise use yadi shānti lagatī hai aur ātmāke vichār sphurit hote ho to aisā kare. shāstra svādhyāyamen use ras lagatā ho to vaise kare. svayaṅkī jis prakārakī yogyatā ho, vahān̐ ruke, parantu dhyey ek (honā chāhiye ki) mujhe shuddhātmā kaise pahachānamen āye? tattva vichār karake andaramen nirṇay kare ki main gnāyak hī hū̃n. sachchī samajh kaise ho? tattva vichār karake andar nirṇay karanekā prayatna kare. bākī jahān̐ use ras lage vahān̐ ruke. yahīn rukanā yā vahīn rukanā aisā nahīn hotā.

sachchā gnān andar ho, tattvake vichār hone chāhiye. lekin prayojanabhūt (honā chāhiye). jyādā jāne to hī hotā hai, aisā nahīn hai. ek ātmāko pahachāne to usamen sab ā jātā hai. ātmāke dravya-guṇ-paryāy kyā hai? yah pudagal kyā hai?la usake dravya- guṇ-paryāy kyā hai? do tattva bhinna hai. yah vibhāv apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. amuk prayojanabhūt tattva jāne, isaliye tattva vichār to bīchamen āye binā rahate nahī̃n. parantu usamen adhik dr̥uḍhatā lāneke liye, use jahān̐ ruchi lage vahān̐ ruke. jin pratimāke darshanamen use adhik shānti aur vichār sphurit hote ho to vaisā kare. svādhyāyamen adhik ras ātā ho to vaise kare. bākī vichār, nirṇay karake gnāyakakī or jhukanā hai. sabamen dhyey ek hī honā chāhiye ki mujhe bhedagnān ho aur ātmākā svarūp kaise samajhamen āye? dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi kaise ho? dhyey to ek hī honā chāhiye. bāharamen rukanese sab ho nahīn jātā, karanā antaramen hai. gurukī mahimā kare. gurune kyā kahā hai, usake vichār kare. jahān̐ use ras lage vahān̐ rahe. parantu tattva nirṇay karake andar āge baḍhanā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- umra baḍhane lagī hai, kesh shvet hone lage hain, yadi svasamvedan nahīn huā to hamārī dashā kyā hogī? āpakā ādhār milā, phir bhī prāpti nahīn hotī, kyon hotā nahīn? yā phir hamārā gnāyakakā gholan bolane mātra hogā yā raṭan jaisā hogā?

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samādhānaḥ- jūṭhā nahīn parantu prayās nahīn karatā hai. yathārtha vastuke āge to sab aisā hai, parantu vah jūṭhā nahīn hai. svayaṅko bhāvanā hotī hai. parantu sachchī samajh karake gnāyakakā āshray karaneke liye prayās chāhiye, utanā prayās nahīn karatā hai, pramād hai. satake gahare sanskār paḍe, apūrva ruchi antaramense ho, kuchh apūrvatā lage to bhī āge jākar use prāpta honekā avakāsh hai. parantu andaramen use apūrvatā laganī chāhiye. apūrvatā lage, kuchh alag hai, utanā andar āshcharya laganā chāhiye. abhī use hotā nahīn hai, prayās manda hai, parantu yadi antaramen apūrvatā lagī hai to bhaviṣhyamen bhī puruṣhārtha karake prāpta karanekā avakāsh hai. shāstramen ātā hai, "tatprati prītichitten yen vārtāpi hi shrutā'. antarakī prītise tattvakī bāt sunī hai to bhī vah bhāvi nirvāṇakā bhājan hai. parantu vah antarakī prīti kis prakārakī? koī apūrva prīti antaramense (āye), jo kabhī nahīn āyī, vaisī. is prakār tattvakī bāt use koī apūrva lage, āshcharyakārī lage aur andar ātmā āshcharyakārī lage to bhaviṣhyamen usakā puruṣhārtha hue binā rahatā nahī̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- bāt yathārtharūpase pariṇamatī nahīn hai, to satpuruṣh prati premamen nyūnatā hai? yā .. ho sakatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- satpuruṣh prati premamen nyūnatā aur ātmākā prem nyūn hai. nimitta- upādān ek hai. antaramen use satpuruṣh prati vaisī apūrvatā lagī nahīn hai, apūrva mahimā āyī nahīn hai yānī ki antaramen ātmākī mahimā, apūrvatā nahīn āyī hai. jaisā yahān̐ upādān aur nimitta,...

jise satpuruṣhakī apūrva mahimā āye use ātmākī apūrva mahimā āye binā nahīn rahatī. jise ātmākī apūrva mahimā āye use satpuruṣhakī mahimā āye binā nahīn rahatī. use satpuruṣhakī mahimā, gurukī mahimā apūrva nahīn āyī hai, to use ātmākī bhī andaramen nahīn lagī hai. ātmākī laganī hī nahīn hai. mujhe ātmā kaise prāpta ho, aisī gaharī laganī nahīn hai, isaliye use satpuruṣhakī apūrva mahimā ātī nahīn hai. antaramen lage use mahimā āye binā rahatī. mahimā jise lage use antarakī ruchi jāgr̥ut hue binā nahīn rahatī.

mumukṣhuḥ- sajīvanamūrtike lakṣhya binā kalyāṇ nahīn hotā. bahut log kahate hain ki gurudevakī ṭepase kalyāṇ ho? viḍīyo ṭepase kalyāṇ ho?

samādhānaḥ- sachchā mārga mile, mārga samajhanekā kāraṇ banatā hai. samajhanekā kāraṇ banatā hai, parantu deshanālabdhi to pratyakṣha satpuruṣhase prāpta hotī hai. deshanālabdhi honeke bād...

gnānakī visheṣh nirmalatāke liye gurudevakī ṭep sabako sādhan banatā hai. jo satya mārga hai use jānaneke liye, shāstrake artha kyā hai, shāstramen kyā ātā hai, gurudevane sab

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shāstroṅko khole haĩn. vah svayaṅkī matise kholane jāye to khol sake aisā nahīn hai. gurudevane sab shāstroṅke rahasya khulle kiye haĩn. vah sunanese shāstrommen kyā ātā hai, gurudevane pūrā mārga kyā prakāshit kiyā hai, vah visheṣh-visheṣh jānanekā kāraṇ banatā hai. visheṣh- visheṣh jānanekā, visheṣh gnān honekā kāraṇ banatā hai.

apane āp svādhyāy nahīn kar sakatā ho, samajhatā nahīn ho, use ṭepamense ekadam samajhamen ātā hai. bākī sarvapratham jo deshanālabdhi hotī hai, usamen to sākṣhāt dev, sākṣhāt guru, sākṣhāt vāṇīse hī hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- pratyakṣha hī chāhiye?

samādhānaḥ- pratyakṣha. anādi kālase jise pratham nahīn huā hai use pratyakṣha nimitta ho to hotā hai. bākī use amuk ruchi jāgr̥ut ho jāye bādamen visheṣh jānaneke liye gurudevakī vāṇī ṭep rekorḍiṅg kāraṇ banatī hai. kuchh bhī shaṅkā utpanna ho to vah ṭepamense shaṅkā-samādhān sab hotā hai.

deshanālabdhi huyī hai yā nahīn, usakā vichār karanekā koī kām nahīn hai. svayam andar puruṣhārtha kare to ho sake aisā hai. deshanālabdhi to pragaṭ pakaḍamen āye aisā nahīn hai. isaliye svayam puruṣhārtha kare, ruchi jāgr̥ut kare to use deshanālabdhi huyī hai, aisā samajh lenā. svayam yadi andarase vartamānamen pragaṭ kare to usamen deshanālabdhi sāthamen ā jātī hai. svayam kare to hotā hai. gurukā nimitta prabal hai, parantu puruṣhārtha-upādān svayam taiyār kare to nimittako grahaṇ kiyā aisā kahanemen āye. parantu yadi svayam puruṣhārtha nahīn karatā hai, to nimitta to prabal hai, parantu svayam karatā nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. rah gayī hai, bahut āshcharya jaisā lagatā hai. bahut āshcharya jaisā lagatā hai. kyoṅki yah ek baḍā ...

samādhānaḥ- mahābhāgyakī bāt hai ki gurudev yahān̐ padhāre aur yah vāṇī rah gayī. gurudevakī vāṇī sākṣhāt sunaneke liye barason tak logoṅko milī hai. vah bhī mahābhāgyakī bāt hai. gurudev sab mumukṣhuke bīchamen rahakar barason tak vāṇī barasāyī hai, vah mahābhāgyakī bāt hai. aisī sākṣhāt vāṇī milanī mushkil hai, is pañchamakālake andara. aisā sākṣhāt gurukā yog aur sākṣhāt vāṇī milanī is pañchamakālamen atyant durlabh hai. usamen vah milī to mahābhāgyakī bāt hai. phir taiyārī to svayaṅko karanī hai.

(munirāj to) jaṅgalamen vicharate haĩn. gurudev, mahābhāgyakī bāt hai ki yahān̐ sabake bīch rahakar vāṇī barasāyī, sabako unakī aisī apūrva vāṇī milī, mahābhāgyakī bāt hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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