Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 77.

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શુદ્ધ પર્યાય પ્રગટ થાય તેને જ દ્રવ્ય શુદ્ધ છે તેનો વાસ્તવિક સ્વીકાર થયો છે તે વિષે....    0   Play
shuddha paryāy pragaṭ thāy tene ja dravya shuddha chhe teno vāstavik svīkār thayo chhe te viṣhe....    0   Play

સ્વાનુભૂતિ વખતે જ્ઞાન તો અભેદ થઈ જાય છે ને?    2:00   Play
svānubhūti vakhate gnān to abhed thaī jāy chhe ne?    2:00   Play

તિર્યંચ સમ્યગ્દર્શન પ્રાપ્ત કરી લે છે અને મનુષ્ય નથી કરતો તો શું મનુષ્યમાં વધારે બુદ્ધિ હોવાથી વધારે અટવાતો જાય છે?    7:10   Play
tiryañch samyagdarshan prāpta karī le chhe ane manuṣhya nathī karato to shun manuṣhyamān vadhāre buddhi hovāthī vadhāre aṭavāto jāy chhe?    7:10   Play

સમ્યગ્દર્શનકે બાદ ચારિત્ર હોતા હૈ, ઉસસે મોક્ષ હોતા હૈ....    9:00   Play
samyagdarshanake bād chāritra hotā hai, usase mokṣha hotā hai....    9:00   Play

આત્માકી મહિમા કૈસૈ આયે?    10:30   Play
ātmākī mahimā kaisai āye?    10:30   Play

જીવકી કર્તાબુદ્ધિ કૈસે છૂટે?    13:30   Play
jīvakī kartābuddhi kaise chhūṭe?    13:30   Play

માતાજી! સત્સંગકા માહાત્મ્ય બતાઈયે?    14:50   Play
mātājī! satsaṅgakā māhātmya batāīye?    14:50   Play

માતાજી! આત્માનુભૂતિકા સ્વાદ કૈસે હોતા હૈ?    16:55   Play
mātājī! ātmānubhūtikā svād kaise hotā hai?    16:55   Play

ઇસ જીવકો ભાવ સંવર કૈસૈ પ્રગટ હોવે?    18:40   Play
is jīvako bhāv samvar kaisai pragaṭ hove?    18:40   Play

samādhānaḥ- .. svīkār kiyā to sahī, antaramense use shuddha paryāy pragaṭ ho to usane svīkār kiyā hai. trikāl shuddha dravya svayam sarva prakārase shuddha hai. usakā svīkār kiyā hai. andar vaisī us prakārakī antaramense pratīt pragaṭ ho, usakī shuddha paryāy pragaṭ ho, usakī svānubhūti pragaṭ ho to usane vāstavik rūpase svīkār kiyā hai. nahīn to usane buddhise vichār karake svīkār kiyā hai.

satya svīkār to use kahate hain ki trikālī dravya par barābar yathārtha shraddhā ho ki main to anādi ananta shuddha, sarva prakārase shuddha hū̃n. pāriṇāmikabhāv anādi ananta shuddha hai. dravya-guṇ-paryāy sarva prakārase shuddha hai. vaise pragaṭ paryāyamen shuddhatā hai. sarva prakārase shuddha hai, aisī pratīt use dr̥uḍh ho aur us prakārakī pariṇati pragaṭ ho to usane svīkār kiyā hai. usakī dr̥uṣhṭi dravya par jātī hai. gnānamen sab jānatā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi dravya par jātī hai aur gnāyakakī bhedagnānakī pariṇati, gnāyakakī gnāyakadhārā pragaṭ ho, svānubhūti ho to usane svīkār kiyā hai.

dravyakī dr̥uṣhṭimen dravya, guṇ, paryāyakā bhed karake nahīn jānatā hai. vah to ek dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi rakhī hai. usamen use sab sāthamen ā jātā hai. bākī use bhinna nahīn hai. bhed karake dr̥uṣhṭi bhed nahīn karatī. gnānamen sab jānatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnān bhī vartamānamen abhed ho jātā hai us kālamen to.

samādhānaḥ- svānubhūtike kālamen to gnān abhed yānī gnān svayaṅko jānatā hai, gnān apane guṇoṅko jānatā hai, apanī paryāyako jānatā hai. upayog jo bāhar jātā thā vah nahīn jātā hai. bākī svayam svako jāne, apane guṇoṅko jāne, apanī paryāyoṅkā jānatā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi abhed hai, parantu gnān to sab abhed-bhed donoṅko jānatā hai. dravya svayam anādi ananta hai. usamen guṇakā bhed vastubhed (rūp) nahīn hai, parantu lakṣhaṇabhed hai. use paryāyamen ansh-anshīkā bhed hai. vah jaisā hai vaisā dravyakā svarūp gnān barābar jānatā hai.

svānubhūtike kālamen abhed ho jātā hai isaliye vah kuchh jānatā nahīn hai, aisā nahīn hai. guṇ, paryāy ādi gnān kuchh nahīn jānatā hai, aisā nahīn hai. svānubhūtike kālamen

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sab jānatā hai. svānubhūtimen svayam dravyako abhed jānatā hai, guṇoṅkā bhed jānatā hai, usakā vedan svānubhūtimen jānatā hai, shuddha paryāyako jānatā hai. gnān sab jānatā hai. gnān potānī anubhūtikī paryāyako gnān na jāne to dūsarā kaun jāne? gnān sab jānatā hai. abhed ho jāye isaliye kuchh jānatā nahīn hai, usakī vedanakī paryāyako bhī nahīn jānatā hai, aisā nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jānatā huā antar ānandake vedanamen magna ho jātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- jānatā huā. vikalpa nahīn hai, nirvikalpa hai. ākulatā nahīn hai, rāg nahīn hai. shāntadashā, shāntimay dashā, ānandamay dashāko jānatā huā ātmāmen līn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ṭoḍaramalajī sāhab pharamāte hain ki pradeshakā to pratyakṣhapanā hotā nahīn, anubhavake kālamẽn. mātra rāgarahit dashā antaramen pragaṭ huyī hai, us rāgarahit dashāmen hī ānandakā vedan karake gnān andar ruk jātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- pradeshako jān nahīn sakatā. (usakā koī) prayojan nahīn hai. gnān svayam svānubhūtikā vedan karatā hai. rāg chhūṭ gayā, (phir bhī) svayaṅkā astitva hai na? shūnya nahīn ho gayā. rāg chhūṭ gayā, parantu ātmā svayam to khaḍā hai. nirvikalpa dashāmen ātmā khaḍā hai. vītarāgī dashāmen rāg chhūṭ gayā isaliye andarase ātmākī vītarāgī dashā pragaṭ hotī hai. ānshik rāg chhūṭ gayā, pūrṇa vītarāg nahīn hai, parantu ānshik vītarāgī dashā hai. isaliye apanā vedan hai. apanī vedanakī dashāko jānatā hai. pratyakṣha gnān bhale nahīn hai.

pratyakṣha gnān kevalagnānīko hai. pradesh ādi sab kevalagnānī jānate haĩn. pratyakṣha nahīn hone par bhī svānubhav pratyakṣha hai. mati-shrut parokṣha hone par bhī usakī svānubhūti pratyakṣha hai. vedan apekṣhāse pratyakṣha hai. vah kisīko pūchhane nahīn jānā paḍatā. svānubhūti vedan apekṣhāse pratyakṣha hai. rāg chhūṭ gayā isaliye shūnya ho gayā, aisā nahīn hai. rāg chhūṭ gayā to antaramen jo ātmā vītarāgī svarūp, nirvikalpasvarūp thā, aise ātmākī svānubhūti pragaṭ huyī. adabhūt anubhav dashā, siddha jaisā ansh pragaṭ hotā hai. jāgr̥ut dashā hai. rāg chhūṭ gayā isaliye shūnya dashā nahīn hai, jāgr̥ut dashā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jaḍ jaisā nahīn ho gayā.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, jaḍ jaisā nahīn ho gayā hai. bāharakā jānanā chhūṭ gayā aur rāg chhūṭ gayā isaliye jaḍ jaisā ho gayā, kuchh jānatā nahīn, aisā nahīn hai. apanā vedan svayaṅko pratyakṣha hai. kevalagnānī pūrṇa pratyakṣha haĩn. svayam svayaṅko jāne, anyako jāne, unakā gnān pratyakṣha ho gayā hai. kyoṅki unako manake vikalpa, rāgakā ansh mūlamense

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kṣhay ho gayā hai. (nīchekī dashāmen) rāgakā ansh mūlamense kṣhay nahīn huā hai, parantu amuk anshamen chhūṭ gayā isaliye jāgr̥ut dashā hai. svānubhūtikī dashā hai. svayam svayaṅkī anupam adabhūt dashāko vedatā hai ki jise koī bāhya upamā nahīn dī jā sakatī. chaitanyakī svānubhūtikā koī bāhya upamā lāgū nahīn paḍatī. adabhūt anupam dashā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... prāpta kar le aur manuṣhya prāpta na kare to manuṣhyamen jyādā buddhi ho to jyādā aṭakatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- aisā kuchh nahīn hai ki manuṣhya jyādā aṭake. is pañcham kālamen aisī yogyatāvāle jīv hai ki unhen durlabh ho paḍā hai. manuṣhya jyādā aṭake aisā nahīn hai. vartamānamen to meṇḍhak bhī nahīn kar sakatā hai. sabako durlabh ho gayā hai. aur manuṣhyoṅko durlabh ho gayā hai.

chaturtha kāl jo sulabh kāl thā, jīvoṅkī pātratā adhik ugra thī. aisī pātratāvāle jīv the. sākṣhāt bhagavānakā yog thā. sākṣhāt kevalagnānīkā yog thā, chaturtha kāl thā aur jīv bhī aisī taiyārīvāle the. isaliye kitane hī manuṣhyoṅko to hotā hai, parantu tiryañch jaisoṅko bhī hotā hai, aisā kāl thā. manuṣhyoṅko kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen jaldī ho jātā thā, parantu meṇḍhak jaise tiryañchoṅko bhī hotā thā. vaisā vah kāl sulabh kāl (thā) aur aisī pātratāvāle jīv the. yahān̐ jo janma lete hain, vah aisī hī pātratā lekar āte haiain ki jinhen sab durlabh ho jātā hai. isaliye manuṣhyommen utanī taiyārī nahīn hai aur tiryañchommen to taiyārī to bilakul nahīn dikhāī detī. tiryañchommen samajhanā atyant kaṭhin hai. manuṣhyoṅko durlabh hai, tiryañchoṅko durlabh hai. chaturtha kālamen anek manuṣhyoṅko hotā thā aur tiryañchoṅko bhī hotā thā. sabako hotā thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- mokṣhamārga kahān̐-se shurū hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- mokṣhamārga samyagdarshanase shurū hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āj subah 232 gāthā gurudevake pravachanamen chalī thī. usake antargat āyā thā ki...

samādhānaḥ- samyagdarshanakī apekṣhāse mokṣhamārga samyagdarshan jab huā tab mokṣhamārga shurū hotā hai. chāritrakī apekṣhāse kevalagnānakī prāpti hotī hai, pūrṇa bādamen hotā hai. ansh to pahale pragaṭ hotā hai. pahale ansh pragaṭ hotā hai, pūrṇatā chāritra hove tab hotī hai. mārga shurū ho jātā hai. aur kevalagnānakī apekṣhāse chāritrakī apekṣhāse mokṣhamārga munikī dashāmen hotā hai.

ruchi to svayaṅko karanī paḍatī hai. bāharakī ruchi lagī hai. ātmākī mahimā nahīn

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ātī, ātmāko pahachānanekā vichār nahīn karatā, ātmākī mahimā nahīn ātī hai, ruchi kahān̐-se lage? mahimā sab bāharakī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- koshish to bahut karate haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- koshish karatā hai to bhī pūrī koshish nahīn hotī. kāraṇ thoḍā detā hai, kārya kahān̐-se āve?

mumukṣhuḥ- is jīvako ātmākī mahimā kaise āye? ātmākā vishvās kaise baiṭhe?

samādhānaḥ- vishvās (ā sakatā hai), ātmāke svabhāvako pahachāne to vishvās (ātā hai). bāhar dekhe to bāhar kahān̐ (hai)? bhītaramen dekhe to kahīn shānti nahīn hai, ākulatā-ākulatā lagatī hai. ākulatā lage to sukh kahān̐ hai? sukh-sukh karatā hai, sukh bāharase nahīn milatā. sukh to bhītaramen-ātmāmen hotā hai. ātmāmen sukh hotā hai. aisī pratīt karanī chāhiye, aisā nirṇay karanā chāhiye, svabhāvako pahachānanā chāhiye. sab nakkī karanā chāhiye, tab ho sakatā hai. bākī bāhar to bahut karatā hai, parantu bhītaramen ākulatā lagatī hai. to ākulatā ātmākā svabhāv nahīn hai. shānti, sukh ātmākā svabhāv hai. usakā vichār karake nirṇay karanā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- sukh svabhāvako dekhe tab sukhakī mahimā āye. sansārase duḥkh lage...

samādhānaḥ- ātmākī ruchi lage, ātmāmen sab paḍā hai, ātmā anupam tattva hai, ātmā adabhūt tattva hai. jagatase, vibhāvase bhinna ātmā koī adabhut anupam tattva hai. usakā āshcharya laganā chāhiye, usakī mahimā laganī chāhiye, tab ho sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ek-ek bolamen bahut āyā hai. bahinashrīke vachanāmr̥utamen āpakī kitābamen ek-ek bolamen mahimā bharī huyī hai.

samādhānaḥ- aisī svānubhūti, samyagdarshan, ātmākī apūrvatā, adabhut, anupam... samyagdr̥uṣhṭi chakravartī gr̥uhasthāshramamen hove to bhī ātmākī svānubhūti hotī hai. bādamen usakī pūrṇatā karaneke liye munidashā (ātī hai). chāritra kam hai to pūrī līnatā nahīn hotī hai. līnatā munidashāmen hotī hai. isaliye mokṣhamārga vahān̐se shurū hotā hai. samyagdarshanakī apekṣhāse pahale shurū ho jātā hai. shurūāt to vahān̐se hotī hai. samyagdarshanamen bhavakā abhāv ho jātā hai. ātmā anupam apūrva hai, usakī mahimā āve, usakī laganī lage tab ho sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sarva samarpaṇ kare tab ātmā mile. ...

samādhānaḥ- hā̃n. idhar-ūdhar kahīn-kahīn ruk jātā hai, parakī mahimā ātī hai, ātmākī mahimā ātī nahī̃n. ātmāko sarva samarpaṇ kar de. bas, ātmā hī koī apūrva anupam vastu hai. usako batānevāle gurudev to apūrva vāṇī barasā gaye haĩn.

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mumukṣhuḥ- unakā upakār to jīvanamen koī bhūlā nahīn sakatā.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, barason tak vāṇī barasāyī, aisā apūrva mārga darshāyā. ātmākā apūrva muktikā mārga (darshāyā). sabako jāgr̥ut kiyā. pūre hindustānamen sabako jāgr̥ut kiyā. ruchi bāharamen kriyāmen the. bhītaramen mokṣhakā mārga hai. gurudevane bahut samajhāyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahinashrī! kartābuddhi kaise ṭūṭe? din bhar karun̐-karun̐ kartābuddhi kaise ṭūṭe?

samādhānaḥ- kartābuddhi, gnāyakako pīchhane tab kartābuddhi ṭūṭatī hai. main gnātā hī hū̃n. gnātākā vishvās ānā chāhiye, gnātākī pratīt ānī chāhiye ki main gnāyak hī hū̃n. main to jānanevālā, main to udāsīn gnātā hī hū̃n. main parako kar nahīn sakatā. par to svatantra dravya hai. pudagal, usake dravya-guṇ-paryāy svatantra hai. usake guṇ-paryāy sab svatantra hai. main kisīko badal sakūn aisī shakti meremen nahīn hai. sabake puṇya-pāpake udayase sab chalatā hai. to bhī main karun̐-main karun̐ karatā hai.

main to gnāyak hū̃n. gnāyakakī pratīt āve, gnāyakakā vishvās āve, tab ho sakatā hai. kartābuddhi ṭūṭe... main itanā satya paramārtha kalyāṇ hai ki jitanā yah gnān hai. gnāyakamen santuṣhṭa ho, usamen tr̥upta ho, usamen tū andar dekh, anupam sukh pragaṭ hogā. gnānamātra ātmāmen santuṣhṭa ho jā.

mumukṣhuḥ- satsaṅg, samāgamamān mahattva shrīmad rājachandrajī batāte hain, us par..

samādhānaḥ- anādi kālase apanā puruṣhārtha manda hai to bāhar asatsaṅgamen aise pariṇāmakī asar... satsaṅgamen yathārtha vichār karane, satya tattva samajhanekā yog mil, sachchī vāṇī mile, isase vichār karanekā svayaṅko prayatna ho. yah satsaṅgakā mahattva hai. asatsaṅgamen to vichār (nahīn chalate hain). aise bhī puruṣhārtha manda hai, jahān̐-tahān̐ vichār chale jāte hain, nirṇay nahīn ho sakatā hai. isaliye jinhonne mārga samajhā hai, jo mārga gurudev darshāte the, yathārtha bāt karate hain, pariṇām usamen jāye to vichār kare, ruchi baḍhe, aisā sab hotā hai. main ātmāko kaise prāpta karun̐? aisā to satsaṅgamen ho sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- andaramen taḍap lage to aise satsaṅgamen jāyegā.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, svayaṅko taḍap lage, laganī lage to satsaṅgamen jāyegā. nahīn to kuṭumbamen, vyāpār-dhandhāmen pariṇām chalā jātā hai. gurudevane bahut diyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ve to adabhut kar gaye hain! abhī bhī dekhe to kaṇ-kaṇamen dekhakar ān̐su bahate haĩn. gurudevane chāron orase kitanī karuṇā pūrā bhārat ...

samādhānaḥ- 45-45 yahān̐ rahakar.. kaṇ-kaṇamen gurudeva. svādhyāy mandiramen virājate the. ve virājate the tab sab kuchh alaukik thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut de gaye hain, gurudev to de gaye, ab puruṣhārtha kare yah jīv aur

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sudhare...

mumukṣhuḥ- ātmākī anubhūtikā svād kaisā hai?

samādhānaḥ- ātmākī anubhūtikā svād, usakī koī upamā nahīn ho sakatī hai. ātmānubhūtikī koī upamā nahīn hai. vah to anubhav tattva hai. jaḍ padārthakī upamā chaitanyako mil nahīn sakatī. vibhāvakā, koī rāgakā, koī devalokake devoṅkā yā kisīkī bhī upamā use lāgū nahīn paḍatī. vah to anupam hai. chaitanyatattva koī āshcharyakārī tattva hai. usakā svād anupam, usakā gnān anupam, agādh gnānase bharapūr, ek samayamen lokālokako jānanevālā, aisī anant shakti (hai). ananta guṇonse bharapūr adabhut anupam ananta guṇonse bharapūr (hai). vah bolanemen koī upamāmen nahīn ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jisane svād chakhā vahī jāne, dūsarā nahīn jān sakatā.

samādhānaḥ- usakī upamā nahīn ho sakatī hai. vah to anupam amr̥ut svāda. anupamakī upamā nahīn hotī. vikalpa chhūṭ gayā, nirvikalpa svarūp ātmāmen līn ho gayā, usakā svād vahī jānatā hai. jagat-duniyāse koī alaukik dūsarī duniyāmen chalā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- alaukik jīvan hai gnānīkā!

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, alaukik hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- agnānī thoḍī pahachān sakatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- ... svānubhūti ho sakatī hai, samyagdarshan ho sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- is jīvako bhāvasamvar kaise pragaṭ ho?

samādhānaḥ- bhāvasamvar to.... sabakā ek hī mārga hai. sabakā ek hī hai. jab gnāyakako pahachāne tab samvar hotā hai. sabakī ek hī bāt hai. muktikā mārga ek hī hai. samvarakā mārga, nirjarākā mārga, samyagdarshan, sabakā mārga... jo mārga samyagdarshanakā, vahī mārga chāritrakā, sab ek hī mārga hai, dūsarā nahīn hai. ekamen koī dūsarā mārga aur dūsaremen dūsarā mārga aisā nahīn hai.

ātmā gnāyakako bhedagnān kar (pahachāne). "bhedavignānataḥ siddhāḥ siddhā ye kil kechan'. jo siddha hue ve bhedavignānase hue, nahīn hue ve bhedavignānake abhāvase nahīn hue. ek hī mārga hai. bhedagnān karake ātmāko pahachāne, dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi kare. bas, gnāyakako bhinna jāne, gnāyakakī bhinna pariṇati (pragaṭ kare). kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen bhinna (paḍe), khāte-pīte, nidrāmen, svapnamen bhinna rahe. svānubhūti pragaṭ hove tab bhāvasamvar hotā hai. isamen visheṣh līnatā hove to visheṣh nirjarā hotī hai. samyagdarshan (honeke bād) visheṣh līnatā hove tab chāritradashā hotī hai. mārga to ek hī hai. dūsarā koī mārga nahīn hai. isakā dūsarā, isakā dūsarā

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(aisā nahīn hai). ek ātmāko pahachāne (usamen) sab ā jātā hai. aur sabako pīchhāne, ātmāko pīchhāne nahīn to kuchh jānā nahī̃n. ek ātmāko pīchhāne usamen sab ā jātā hai. ātmāko jānā usane sab jānā aur ātmāko nahīn jānā to gyārah aṅgakā gnān huā to bhī kuchh nahīn huā.

mumukṣhuḥ- ātmā sukhī to nahīn huā.

samādhānaḥ- nahīn huā. āgamagnān (kare), parantu usakā artha aisā nahīn hai ki jyādā khūb jāne to muktikā mārga ho sakatā hai. amuk prayojanabhūt jāne to bhī ātmākā svabhāv pragaṭ hotā hai. āgamagnān hotā hai. bhagavānakī vāṇī, bhagavānane kyā kahā hai, shāstramen kyā ātā hai, āgamagnān ātā hai. visheṣh jāne to achchhā hai, thoḍā jāne to bhī ho sakatā hai.

shivabhūti muni kuchh jānate nahīn the. ek shabdakā gnān bhī bhūl jāte the. māruṣh, mātuṣha. rāg-dveṣh nahīn karanekā gurune kahā to vah bhī bhūl gaye. māsatuṣh ho gayā. usakā bhāv samajh liyā. aurat dāl aur chhīlakā alag karatī thī. aisā mere gurune kahā ki ātmā bhinna hai aur yah vibhāv bhinna hai. aisā bhedagnān karake antaramen ūtar gaye. mūl prayojanabhūt tattvako jāne.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

 

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