Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 82.

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mumukṣhuḥ- pahale dravyadr̥uṣhṭi karanī yā pahale vyavahār karanā?

samādhānaḥ- yathārtha dravyadr̥uṣhṭi ho vahān̐ yathārtha vyavahār ā jātā hai. pahale vyavahār to anādikā hai. dravyadr̥uṣhṭike sāth vyavahār sāthamen rahā hai. dravyadr̥uṣhṭi yathārtha kise kahate hain? ki usake sāth vyavahār hotā hai. yadi sab chhūṭ jāye to vah dr̥uṣhṭi hī samyak nahīn hai. samyagdr̥uṣhṭi ho, yathārtha dr̥uṣhṭi ho to usake sāth gnān hotā hai aur yathārtha svarūp ramaṇatā hotī hai. aisī nishchay-vyavahārakī sandhi hai. dr̥uṣhṭi gnāyak par gayī isaliye pūrṇa mukti arthāt pūrṇa vedan nahīn ho jātā. abhī nyūnatā hai, tab tak puruṣhārtha hai.

mumukṣhukī dashāmen vah nakkī kare ki main svabhāvase nirmal hai. usake bhedagnānakā prayās kare ki main bhinna hū̃n. yah sab ekatvabuddhi toḍanekā prayatna kare. prayatna aur dr̥uṣhṭi ādi sab sāthamen rahate haĩn. usakī bhāvanāmen bhī vaisā honā chāhiye. ... nāsh nahīn huā hai. svabhāvako svayam grahaṇ kare. jaisā svabhāv hai vaisā hī grahaṇ kare. phir paryāyamen nyūnatā hai, ashuddhatā hai, sabako ṭālakar shuddhatākā prayās kare.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. dr̥uṣhṭikā bal baḍh jātā hogā?

samādhānaḥ- paryāy hai hī nahīn, aisā karanese dr̥uṣhṭikā bal baḍh jātā hai, aisā nahīn hai. jaisā hai vaisā yathārtha jāne to dr̥uṣhṭikā bal baḍhatā hai. paryāy hai. hai hī nahīn, aisā mānanā aisā dr̥uṣhṭikā viṣhay nahīn hai. usakī dr̥uṣhṭike viṣhayamen nahīn hai. parantu paryāy vastu hī nahīn hai aur dravyako paryāy hai hī nahīn, yah yathārtha gnān nahīn hai. dr̥uṣhṭike viṣhayamen nahīn hai. dr̥uṣhṭike viṣhayamen paryāy ātī nahī̃n. usakā dhyey ek dravya par hai. isaliye paryāy usakī dr̥uṣhṭimen nahīn hai, isaliye paryāy hai hī nahīn, aisā nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... rāgako jānanā aur us prakārake svayaṅkā svabhāvakī orake puruṣhārthako jānanā, to in tīnoṅko jānanemen koī antar hai?

samādhānaḥ- jānanā vah to jānanā hī hai. rāgako jāne yā parako jāne yā puruṣhārthako jāne, parantu usakā svarūp jāne ki rāg vah vibhāvaparyāy hai. sharīrādi paradravya hai aur yah puruṣhārtha hai, vah svarūpakī orakā puruṣhārtha hai. usakā svarūp jaisā hai vaisā jānā. jānanā to jānanā hai, parantu usakā svarūp kaisā hai? gneyoṅkā svabhāv bhinna-bhinna hai,

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aisā jāne. jānanā hī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gneyoṅkā svabhāv bhinna-bhinna hai, to jaise parapadārthake sāth koī sambandha nahīn hai, vaise....?

samādhānaḥ- vah to jaisī vastu hai vaisā jānatā hai. paradravya merā svarūp nahīn hai, main paradravyase bhinna hūn̐, yah vibhāvaparyāy merā svabhāv nahīn hai. aur yah main sādhanā karatā hūn̐, yah jo paryāy hai vah ansh hai. pūrṇa anshī jo pūrā hai, vah pūrṇa hai vah svarūp bhinna hai aur yah ansh hai. jaise hain vaise sab prakār jānatā hai. svayam yathārtha jānatā hai. yah sab jānaneke prakār haĩn. gnān to sab jānatā hai. yathārtha jāne aur phir puruṣhārtha karane yogya ho us orakā puruṣhārtha hai. heyako hey jāne, upādeyako upādey jānatā hai. jaisā hai vaisā jānatā hai. (dravya) par dr̥uṣhṭi rakhatā hai. dr̥uṣhṭikā viṣhay grahaṇ karake sab kāyāmen juḍatā hai.

ek sphaṭik vastuko grahaṇ kiyā ki yah sphaṭik hai. saphed hai aur chamakavālā hai, vah sab usake bhed hue. parantu ek grahaṇ kiyā ki main chaitanya hū̃n. astitvako grahaṇ karake phir sab jānatā hai. astitvako astitva jāne, paryāyako paryāy jāne, malinatāko malinatā jāne, aise jānatā hai. use bhinna karatā hai ki yah main nahīn hū̃n. yah paradravya hai, yah vibhāv merā svabhāv nahīn hai. puruṣhārthase gnāyakakī dhārāko ugra karatā hai. jānakar vivek karatā hai. us prakār usakā puruṣhārtha chalatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- apane astitvakī pakkaḍ rakhakar jo bhāv jis svarūp hai, us rūp use vah jānatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- barābar jānatā hai. us prakār use jo lābharūp ho us kāryamen juḍatā hai. jo apanā nahīn hai, usase bhinna paḍatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- yānī jo lābharūp jānanemen ātā hai us or sahaj hī usakā jor chalatā hai aur jo hānikārak hai us orase...

samādhānaḥ- vahān̐se chhūṭanekā prayatna karatā hai. ghar sam̐bhālakar sab kāyāmen juḍatā hai. chaitanyake ghar par dr̥uṣhṭi rakhe to dūsarā chhūṭ jāye, aur vah kare to yah chhūṭ jāye, aisā nahīn hotā. usase bhinna paḍatā hai. puruṣhārtha karake nirmalatā (pragaṭ karatā hai). use nirmalatākā vedan hai. malinatākā malinatārūp hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āp kahate ho ki sulabh hai, parantu hamen to usase adhik durlabh bākī kuchh nahīn dikhatā.

samādhānaḥ- antaramen hī karanā hai, parantu vah kaṭhin ho gayā hai. svayam gnāyakako pahachāne to saral hī hai. gnāyakako bhinna jāna. sharīrase bhinna, vibhāvase apanā svabhāv

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bhinna hai. sab bhinna hai. āsān hī hai, parantu kare to. na kare to durlabh hai. aise hī ananta kāl chalā gayā. ananta kālase prāpta nahīn huā hai, isaliye durlabh hai, parantu kare to āsān hai.

.. kitane sāl bīt gaye, āge baḍhanā hai. bahut sāl bīt gaye isaliye ab kyā āye? vah to kahanekī bāt hai. usamen aisā nahīn hai, yah koī laukik bāt nahīn hai, yah to ātmākī bāt hai. pratignā lī vah to achchhī bāt hai. parantu merī tabiyat aisī hai na, isaliye. .. usakā lābh milā aur pratignākā prasaṅg banā. andar ātmākā hetu hai... jo jignāsu hai use niṣhphal nahīn jānevālā hai, phalegā. nij ātmāke hetuse pratignā lī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- aisā hotā hai, bāharamen akele shubhabhāvamen..

samādhānaḥ- ... puruṣhārtha hotā ho to karanā, achchhī bāt hai. nahīn to gahare sanskār ḍale vah lābhakā kāraṇ hai. ho sake to karanā, nahīn to shraddhā to jarūr karanā, aisā shāstramen ātā hai. ho sake to dhyānamay pratikramaṇ karanā. na ho sake to kartavya hai-shraddhā hī kartavya hai. shraddhāmen pheraphār (nahīn honā chāhiye). shraddhā kartavya hai. to āge baḍhā jāyegā. shraddhākā bal barābar rakhanā chāhiye.

gnāyakake mārgake sivā dūsarā koī mārga nahīn hai. bāharake koī kriyākāṇḍamen mārga nahīn hai, yah to antarakā mārga hai. gnāyakakī shraddhā karake bhedagnān karanā, dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi karanā, sharīrase ātmā bhinna, vikalpase apanā svabhāv bhinna, sabase bhinna ek gnāyakako bhinna karanā, dūsarā koī mārga nahīn hai. sarvasva sab vibhāvase bhinna svayam hai. vibhāv apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. usakā bhedagnān, usakī nirantar dhārā, vah sab karane jaisā hai. usakī shraddhā barābar karanā, ban sake to. dhyānamay gnāyakakī pariṇati karanā, na ho sake to shraddhā karanā.

dev-gurune jo batāyā, dev-gurukī shraddhā aur ātmākī shraddhā-do batāyā, vah karanā hai. dev-gurukā sānnidhya mahābhāgyakī bāt hai. unakī mahimā karanī, bākī gnāyakakī mahimā karanī. gnāyak mahimāvant hai, vahī pahachānane yogya hai. usake gahare sanskār ḍālanā. ban sake to pariṇati pragaṭ ho to achchhī bāt hai, nahīn to shraddhā kartavya hai.

... chhaḥ, chaudah kitane-kitane... ātmākā kalyāṇ karaneke liye sab taiyār ho gaye, gurudevake sānnidhyamẽn. sabake prasaṅg bār-bār āye vah to ek ānandakī bāt hai. merī tabiyat aisī hai. itane sāl sabako ānandase... kitane vaṣhā tak vāṇī sunī. kitanā ānanda... pratignā lī thī, tab sab kitane chhoṭe-chhoṭe the. is bhavamen sab taiyārī kar lenī. puruṣhārtha ho sake to karanā, nahīn to sab taiyārī kar lenī. deshanālabdhi,

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gurudevakī deshanālabdhi prāpta huyī. ekadam gahare bīj aise ḍāle ho ki turanta khīl jāya. aise gahare sanskār ḍālane.

... koī bahut hue hain, koī kam hue hain, aise huā hai. sab alag-alag āte hain na, darshan ho tab sab bīch-bīchamen ā jāte hain, sab alag-alag āte haĩn. aisā prasaṅg hai, mahābhāgya...! yah sab ... prāpta huā vah mahābhāgyakī bāt hai. usamen ātmā svayam taiyār ho, taiyār ho to ho sake aisā hai. gurudev mile aur yah sab milā.

... ātmā bhinna, ātmākā svabhāv bhinna, andar vikalpa āye usase apanā svabhāv bhinna, sab bhinna hai. dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimā, antar ātmākī mahimā, gnāyakakā dhyān rakhanā, vah sab karanā hai. bahut sunā hai, usakā andar raṭan karanā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āpake aur gurudevake pratāpase samādhān karate hain, to bhī bahut duḥkh hotā hai.

samādhānaḥ- bārambār prayās karanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- achchhā nahīn lagatā hai, parantu dūsarā koī chārā nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- sharīr kām nahīn kare, usamen kyā ho sakatā hai? kyā ho sakatā hai, jānā paḍe.

.. gnāyak kaise pahachānamen āye, jīvanamen vahī karane jaisā hai. gurudevane mārga batāyā vahī karanā hai. jain dharmakā rahasya kisīko jānanā ho to usamen ā jātā hai. adhyātmakā rahasya. anyamen chhoṭī gītā ādi ātā hai. apanemen yah chhoṭā shāstra (hai). sab (shāstra) sāthamen nahīn rakh sake to itane chhoṭemen ā jātā hai. bālakoṅko kām āve, baḍoṅko kām āve, sabako kām āve. aur siddhānta praveshikā jise samajhanī ho usake liye vah bhī hai aur yah hai. ... yah sab shāstra to hai, yah chhoṭemen sab ā jātā hai. vivaraṇ kiyā hai, thoḍā-thoḍā vah andar (ātā hai). chhaḥ dravya, nau tattva usakā thoḍā andar (ātā hai). yah lok svataḥsiddha hai, ādi sab liyā hai. sabako kām āve aisā hai. siddhānta praveshikāmen saṅkṣhepamen koī samajhe nahīn to phir kahe, ab kyā karanā? ab kyā? sab kaṇṭhastha ho gayā. yah ek svādhyāy karane jaisā aur kaṇṭhastha karane jaisā, sab prakārase aisā hai. samayasāramen sab paḍhe vah to achchhī bāt hai, lekin nahīn paḍh sake to saṅkṣhepamen ā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mūl gāthāen̐ sab ā gayī.

samādhānaḥ- mūl gāthāen̐ ā jāye. phir pravachanasāramen dravya-guṇ-paryāyakā ā jāye, isamen chhaḥ dravya ādi. niyamasāramen pāriṇāmikabhāv ādikā saṅkṣhepamen ā jātā hai. kalashamen svānubhūti ādi, sabamen tattva ā jātā hai. .. kyā ātā hai, yah jānanā chāhe to

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isamen sab ā jātā hai.

.. antaramen āyā, jise guṇ pragaṭ hue, muktikā mārga jise pragaṭ huā, antaramen jise darshan, gnān, chāritra pragaṭ huā, aise gurukī bhakti shiṣhyoṅko āye binā rahatī hī nahī̃n. āchārya bhī shāstra likhate hain, tab siddha bhagavānako, arihant bhagavānako namaskār karake hī likhate haĩn. baḍoṅko āge rakhakar hī shāstra likhate haĩn. āchāryako bhī aisā hotā hai. mātra likhaneke khātir nahīn, bhāvase likhate haĩn.

kundakundāchārya bhī kahate hain ki mujhe jo ātma-vaibhav prāpta huā, vah mere guruse prāpta huā hai. devādhidev arihantadev bhagavānakī paramparā aur mere gurune jo mujhe ātmākā vaibhav darshāyā, usase mujhe pragaṭ huā hai. aisā kahate haĩn. gurukī bhakti to āye binā nahīn rahatī. jise ātmākī sādhanā karanī hai, use gurukī bhakti to sāthamen hotī hī hai. gurune jo dhyey batāyā ki tū gnāyakako grahaṇ kar, us gnāyakakamen-us shuddhātmāmen koī vikalpa nahīn hai. shuddhātmā sab vikalpase bhinna hai. shubhāshubh bhāvonse usakā svabhāv bhinna hai. aisā guru darshāte haĩn. grahaṇ use karanā hai. gurune jo svabhāv darshāyā, us svabhāvako pahachānakar antaramen grahaṇ karanā svayaṅko hai. lekin bīchamen gurukī bhakti āye binā nahīn rahatī. pañch parameṣhṭhīkī bhakti, gurukī bhakti, jinhonne mārga batāyā, unakī bhakti use sāth-sāth hotī hī hai.

jo ātmākī sādhanā kar rahe hain, use bhī gurukī bhakti hotī hai. to jignāsuko to sāthamen hotī hī hai. jise darshan, gnān, chāritra pragaṭ huā, aise āchārya bhī gurukī bhakti (karake) guruko āge rakhate haĩn. padmanandī āchārya bhī jab shāstra likhate hain, tab jinendra devakī kaisī bhakti karate hain! āpake darshanase, bhagavān! merā sab ṭal jātā hai. bhagavān! bādalake jo yah ṭūkaḍe hue, jab meru parvat par abhiṣhek huā, us vakta indrane bhūjāoṅko phailāyā tab bādalake ṭūkaḍe ho gaye. kaisī bhakti kī hai, āchāryane bhī! jo ātmākī ārādhanā karate hain, chhaṭhṭhe-sātaven guṇasthānamen jhulate hain, nirvikalpa tattvamen bārambār nirvikalpasvarūp pariṇamit ho jāte haĩn. bāhar āye tab shāstra likhate haĩn. tattvake, bhakti ādike likhate haĩn. āchāyāko bhī (bhakti) hotī hai.

samyagdr̥uṣhṭi jo gr̥uhasthāshramamen hote hain, unhen bhī gurukī bhakti hotī hai. to jignāsuko gurukī bhakti (ho, usamen kahān̐ prashna hai?) svayam kuchh jānatā nahīn aur jo mārga darshāte hain, unakī bhakti āye binā nahīn rahatī. tattvavichār, dev-guru-shāstrakī bhakti ādi sab bīchamen ātā hai. antaramen vairāgya, virakti, shubhāshubh bhāvonse-vibhāvase virakti aur gurukī bhakti, svabhāvakī mahimā ādi jignāsukī bhūmikāmen hotā hai.

... dūsaroṅko kar nahīn sakatā, guru kahe, isaliye vah kar nahīn sakatā hai, ...

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parantu use bhāvanāmen shubhabhāvamen svayaṅko āge baḍhanā hai, usamen shubhabhāv āye binā nahīn rahate. guruke āge ekadam vinayavān (ho jātā hai) aur bhakti āye binā nahīn rahatī.

dravyadr̥uṣhṭise svayam prabhu jaisā hai, paryāyamen svayam pāmar hai. prabhu, bhagavān, gurudev! main to pāmar hū̃n. aisī bhāvanā use hotī hai. usamen bhī ātā hai, svayam dravyadr̥uṣhṭise prabhu jaisā hai, parantu paryāyamen pāmaratā hai. sab meremen hai, aisī dr̥uṣhṭi ho tab tak āge nahīn baḍh sakatā. gurune hī sab samajhāyā hai aur guru hī sarvasva hai. aisā usake hr̥udayamen ho to vah āge baḍh sakatā hai.

āge baḍhanā hai, dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi karanī hai, bhedagnān karanā hai, darshan-gnān-chāritra pragaṭ karanā hai, bahut karanekā bākī hai. svabhāvamen sab hai, parantu sādhanāmen sab pragaṭ karanā hai. isaliye shubhabhāvamen dev-guru-shāstrakī bhakti āye binā nahīn rahatī.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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