Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 83.

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સ્વભાવમાં જવા માટે શાનું અવલંબન છે?    0   Play
svabhāvamān javā māṭe shānun avalamban chhe?    0   Play

....આત્માકી પ્યાસ લગે તો જ્ઞાનીકે પાસ દૌડતે જાતે હૈ?    1:15   Play
....ātmākī pyās lage to gnānīke pās dauṛate jāte hai?    1:15   Play

પ્યાસ લગે વહ કૈસે પતા ચલે?    3:00   Play
pyās lage vah kaise patā chale?    3:00   Play

શુભ પરિણામમેં પુણ્યકા બંધ હોતા હૈ, વહાઁ ક્યા ધર્મકા બંધ હોતા હૈ?    4:45   Play
shubh pariṇāmamen puṇyakā bandh hotā hai, vahān̐ kyā dharmakā bandh hotā hai?    4:45   Play

બહાર રુચતું-ગમતું ન હોય તો શું ઉપયોગ અંદરમાં જ જાય?    7:50   Play
bahār ruchatun-gamatun na hoy to shun upayog andaramān ja jāy?    7:50   Play

જ્ઞાની થયા પછી જ્ઞાની ૨૪ કલાક શું કરતાં હશે?    9:40   Play
gnānī thayā pachhī gnānī 24 kalāk shun karatān hashe?    9:40   Play

(જ્ઞાનીને ઉપયોગ) બહાર જાય તો શું કાળા નાગ જેવો લાગે છે?    14:15   Play
(gnānīne upayog) bahār jāy to shun kāḷā nāg jevo lāge chhe?    14:15   Play

મુમુક્ષુના હાથમાં શું કોઈ દોરી છે?    14:50   Play
mumukṣhunā hāthamān shun koī dorī chhe?    14:50   Play

આત્માની લગની લાગે તે પુરુષાર્થ કર્યા વિના રહેતો નથી. તે કાળલબ્ધિની રાહ જોતો નથી તે વિષે....    16:15   Play
ātmānī laganī lāge te puruṣhārtha karyā vinā raheto nathī. te kāḷalabdhinī rāh joto nathī te viṣhe....    16:15   Play

સમવસરણમાં દેવો અને ઇન્દ્રો આવે તો શું તેમને મનુષ્યો સાથે મિત્રતા થાય ખરી?    18:15   Play
samavasaraṇamān devo ane indro āve to shun temane manuṣhyo sāthe mitratā thāy kharī?    18:15   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- shubhabhāvakā avalamban kab tak hai?

samādhānaḥ- shubhabhāv bīchamen āte haĩn. antaramen jānemen dravyakā ālamban hai, parantu vyavahāramen shubhabhāv āye binā nahīn rahate. ashubhabhāvonse bachaneke liye shubhabhāv use bīchamen āte haĩn. ālamban dravyakā hai, parantu bīchamen vyavahāramen bhī dev-guru-shāstrake nimitta hote haĩn. anādi kālase jo samajhamen nahīn āyā hai. usamen pahalī bār samajhe tok deshanālabdhi hotī hai. koī devakā yā gurukā upadesh mile to aisā nimitta-upādānakā sambandha hai. tab use andar pragaṭ hotā hai. ālamban svayaṅkā hai, parantu shubhabhāvamen bhī vyavahār shubhabhāvakā vyavahār bīchamen āye binā nahīn rahatā. vyavahāramen dev-guru-shāstrakā ālamban hai. andar ātmāko pahachānanā vah prayojan hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... to vastu prāpta hogī. bhagavān dikhe to vahān̐ dauḍakar jāyeenṅge, aise ātmāko samajhanekī pyās lage to gnānīke pās doḍakar jāyẽn. use thoḍā samajhāīye.

samādhānaḥ- usakā artha aisā hai ki yadi pyās lagī ho to vah dauḍakar jātā hai. lekin pyās nahīn lagī ho to mātra ūpar-ūparase karatā hai. sachchī pyās lage to-to bhītaramen prayās kiye binā rahatā hī nahīn, to-to prayās hotā hī hai, karatā hī hai, parantu pyās nahīn lagī hai. pyās lage to-to jahān̐ mile vahān̐ sunaneko jāye, bhītaramen prayās kare, upadesh sune aur kyā kahate hain, gurudev evan bhagavān kyā kahate hain, usakā vichār kare. bhītaramen bhedagnān karanekā prayās kare. yadi sachchī lagī ho to.

main gnāyak hūn̐, main gnāyak hūn̐, yah merā svabhāv nahīn hai. aisī gnāyakako pragaṭ karanekī yadi pyās lagī ho to vah kiye binā rahatā nahī̃n. koī bhī takalīph āye to bhī use dūr karake, usako gauṇ karake vah karatā hai. parantu sachchī pyās nahīn lagī hai. pyās lage to hotā hī hai. koī kahatā hai na ki, kaise karanā? bahut karate hain phir bhī hotā nahī̃n. parantu bahut karatā hī nahīn hai. pyās lagī ho to prayatna hotā hī hai, hue binā rahatā hī nahī̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- pyās lagī hai, yah kaise patā chale?

samādhānaḥ- jisako pyās lagī hai vah prayatna karatā hī hai. prayatna nahīn karatā

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hai to samajhanā ki pyās nahīn lagī hai. prayatna jarūr karatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- pīchhalī bār garmīmen āye the, tab āpane kahā thā ki din-rāt aisī lagan laganī chāhiye ki na khānā to āye, na pīnā to āye, ek ātmākī hī lagan laganī chāhiye. aisī lagan lagāte hain to bīchamen koī pratikūlatā ā gayī, sharīr asvastha hai, tamām bāten ā jātī hain, matalab laganamen bādhā ḍālate hain, to usamen kyā karanā chāhiye?

samādhānaḥ- laganamen bādhā koī nahīn ḍālatā. jisako lagan lagī ho usako khānā nahīn ruchatā, pīnā nahīn ruchatā, ghumanā-phiranā kuchh ruchatā hī nahī̃n. sonā nahīn ruchatā, kuchh ruchatā hī nahī̃n. sab karatā hai, lekin bhītaramen mujhe ātmā chāhiye, vah nahīn milatā hai. khātā hai, pītā hai, sab karatā hai, parantu jahān̐ jātā hai vahān̐, mujhe ātmā chāhiye. antaramen josh aur khaṭak aisī lagan lage to hue binā rahatā nahī̃n. use chain nahīn paḍatā. koī bādhā ḍālatā hai to bhī vah puruṣhārtha karake bhītaramen bāharakī bādhāen̐ usamen avarodh nahīn karatī. antar puruṣhārtha kare usako bāharakā kārya avarodh karatā hī nahī̃n. bhītaramen hue binā, kiye binā rahatā nahīn, karatā hī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! shubh pariṇāmommen puṇyakā bandha to hotā hī hai, sāthamen karmakā bhī bandha hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- shubhakā bandha hotā hai to karmakā bandha hotā hī hai? upayog svarūpamen līn ho jāye to abuddhipūrvak yā buddhipūrvak nahīn hotā hai. parantu abhī antaramen abuddhipūrvak hai tab tak bandha hotā hī hai aur shubhaupayog hove to bandha to hotā hī hai. heyabuddhi hai, bhedagnān hai ki main bhinna hūn̐, gnāyakakī pariṇati hai, parantu yadi upayog shubh hai to bandha hotā hai. bandha to hotā hai. jitanī bhedagnānakī dhārā hai, gnāyakakī pariṇati hai, utanā bandhase chhūṭ gayā hai. darshanamohakā bandha chhūṭ gayā aur chāritramohakā bandha hotā hai. darshanamohakī koī alpa prakr̥iti ho to alpa bandha hotā hai. parantu darshanamoh chhūṭ gayā hai aur chāritramohakā bandha hotā hai. shuddhaupayogamen nahīn (hotā).

... shubhaupayogako palaṭanā chāhiye. usamen gnān, darshan to sāthamen hote hī haĩn. upayog bāhar jāye, usamen jo shubh pariṇām yā ashubh pariṇām, jo shubhāshubh pariṇām hote hain, usake sāth gnān to sāthamen hotā hai. isaliye gnānakā upayog bhī shubhaupayog mishrit hai. gnān bāhar jāye to gnān shuddhātmāmen līn ho jāye, aisā to gnān hai nahī̃n. gnān shubhāshubhake sāth rahā hai. isaliye shubhāshubh upayogako palaṭ de. terā upayog svarūpamen- ātmāmen ānanda hai, usamen terā upayog lagā de. vāstavamen to gnānakā upayog hai, parantu usake sāth shubhāshubh bhāv juḍe hue haĩn.

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bāhar rāg hai, bāhar ekatvabuddhi hai, usake sāth gnān juḍā hai. bāharakā ras toḍ de aur antar ānanda hai, usakī or jā. tere gnānakā upayog bāhar hai, use antaramen lā. shubhāshubh bhāvako bhinna kar aur tere ātmāke andar lā, aisā kahate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- kahīn achchhā na lage to upayog andaramen jāye?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, upayog andaramen jāye. andar jātā hai vah gnānakā upayog jātā hai, parantu bāhar hai vah shubhāshubh mishrit hai. upayog bāhar hai (vah).

mumukṣhuḥ- ... andaramen hī jāye?

samādhānaḥ- sachamuchamen kahīn ruche nahīn, barābar yathārtharūpase achchhā nahīn lagatā ho to upayogako kahīn rahanekā sthān nahīn rahatā. upayog kahān̐ ṭikatā hai? jahān̐ rāg ho vahān̐ ṭike. rāg chhūṭ gayā, sachamuchamen use rāg hotā hī nahīn aur bāhar kahīn ruchatā hī nahīn, sachamuchamen nahīn ruchatā, phir upayog-gnānakā upayog kahān̐ ṭikegā? pahale to shubhabhāv aur ashubhabhāvamen ṭikatā thā. bāhya gneyoṅke sāth rāg aur dveṣh ādi hotā thā. ab, kahīn ruchatā nahīn hai to gnānakā upayog kahān̐ jāyegā? svarūpakī or jāyegā.

vāstavamen use yadi ras ṭūṭ gayā ho, kahīn khaḍe rahanā ruchatā na ho, ab kahān̐ jānā? ab kisake āshrayamen jānā? yah āshray to ṭhīk nahīn lagatā hai, shubhāshubh bhāvakā āshray barābar nahīn hai, vahān̐ khaḍe rahanā ruchatā nahī̃n. kahān̐ jānā? to vah svayam svayaṅke chaitanyakā āshray khoj legā aur antaramen gaye binā rahegā nahī̃n. antarakā āshray khoj lenā, yadi bāharamen ṭik nahīn pāyā to. svabhāvakā āshray khoj legā.

mumukṣhuḥ- samayasāramen dr̥uṣhṭānta ātā hai na, samudramen jahāj par pakṣhī baiṭhā hai.

samādhānaḥ- samudramen jahāj par baiṭhā pakṣhī.

mumukṣhuḥ- pakṣhī ūḍ-ūḍakar kahān̐ jāyegā? vahīn vāpas ā jāyegā.

samādhānaḥ- vahīn ā jāyegā, āshray jahājakā legā. vah dr̥uṣhṭānta ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! gnānī chaubīson ghaṇṭe kyā karate rahate hain?

samādhānaḥ- chaubīson ghaṇṭe use gnāyakakā āshray hai, gnāyakakī pariṇati hai. gnāyakakī pariṇatimen rahate hain aur upayog bhale bāhar jātā ho. jaisī usakī dashā ho, usake anusār upayog bāhar shubhameen usakī bhūmikā anusār jātā hai. gr̥uhasthāshramamen samyagdr̥uṣhṭi ho to usake gr̥uhasthāshramake kārya aur shubhabhāvamen upayog jātā ho, parantu usakī pariṇati, usakī pariṇati nirantar chaitanyake āshrayamen hī hai. usane āshray chaitanyakā hī liyā hai. dūsarā bāharakā āshray use chhūṭ gayā hai. bhale hī sab ātā ho, parantu āshray-chaitanyaghar

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mil gayā hai. apane gharamen khaḍā huā apanā ghar nahīn chhoḍatā. apane gharamen hī chaubīson ghaṇṭe khaḍā rahatā hai. gharake bāhar usake kināre sab log āye, usake sāth usakā bolanā ādi vyavahār kare (lekin) apanā ghar chhoḍakar jātā nahī̃n. gharake bāhar khaḍe logoṅke sāth vyavahār kare, parantu svayam apane gharamen gharamen khaḍā hai. chaitanyakā āshray chaubīson ghaṇṭe chhūṭatā nahī̃n. upayog bāhar jāye aur dūsarā vyavahār usakā dikhāī de, sab shubhāshubh bhāv, gr̥uhasthāshramamen sab vyavahār dikhāī detā hai, parantu usakā āshray chaitanyakā hai. dev-guru-shāstra ādimen dikhatā ho.

mumukṣhuḥ- shuddhi baḍhatī jātī hai?

samādhānaḥ- antarakī shuddhi baḍhatī jātī hai. usakī bhūmikā anusār usakī amuk shuddhi baḍhatī jātī hai. samyagdarshan hai, amuk prakārakā svarūpācharaṇ chāritra hai. adhik shuddhi usakī bhūmikā palaṭ jāye to chāritrakī shuddhi visheṣh hotī hai. parantu amuk bhūmikā hai to usakī shuddhi baḍhatī hai, nirmalatā baḍhatī jātī hai. svayam apane āshrayamen hī khaḍā hai.

... apekṣhāse use bhedagnān ho gayā, svarūpācharaṇ chāritra hai, anantānubandhī kaṣhāy ṭūṭ gayā hai, use usakī shuddhi baḍhatī jātī hai. usakā āshray vah hai. upayog bāhar jāye to usakī ḍor svarūpamen khīn̐chatā rahatā hai. use chaitanyakā āshray chaubīson ghaṇṭe hai, parantu upayog nij chaitanyako chhoḍakar visheṣh bāhar na jātā (kyoṅki) ḍorī usake hāthamen hai. kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen ḍor apanī or khīn̐chatā rahatā hai. upayogakī ḍorīko jyādā bāhar (nahīn jāne detā), svarūpakī maryādā chhoḍakar jyādā bāhar nahīn jāne detā. ḍorī usake hāthamen hai. bārambār upayog bāhar jāye to bhī apanī or khīn̐chatā rahatā hai. svarūpakā ghar chhoḍakar upayogako jyādā bāhar nahīn jāne detā, upayogako bārambār apanī or khīn̐chatā hai.

pataṅgakī ḍor jaise hāthamen hai. bārambār apanī or khīn̐chatā hai. vah usakā kārya hai. bārambār upayogakī ḍorako kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen apanī or khīn̐chatā hai. svarūpakā āshray hai, dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi aur gnān hai. chāritramen līnatāmen bārambār upayogakī ḍorako apanī or khīn̐chatā rahatā hai. kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen khīn̐chatā hai. svarūpako chhoḍakar upayogako visheṣh bāhar nahīn jāne detā. usakī pariṇatikā antar kārya kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen chalatā rahatā hai. usakā vah kārya chhūṭatā hī nahī̃n.

svānubhūtikī dashā ek alag hai, nirvikalpa dashā hotī hai. parantu bāhar khaḍā- khaḍā apanī ḍorako svarūpakī or khīn̐chatā rahatā hai. upayogakī ḍorī. upayog jyādā bāhar nahīn jāne detā. bāhar dikhāī de sab kāyāmen, dev-guru-shāstrakī bhaktimen, unakī

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pūjāmen, shāstra shravaṇamen, shāstra svādhyāyamen sabamen dikhāī detā ho. chaturtha guṇasthānamen gr̥uhasthāshramake koī kāyāmen dikhāī detā ho, parantu ḍorī apane hāthamen hī hai. ḍorīko jyādā bāhar (nahīn jāne detā). koī shubh kāyāmen yā ashubhamen, ḍorī apane hāthamen hai. jyādā jāne nahīn detā.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānīko rāg kāle nāg jaisā lagatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- kāle nāg jaisā... nij svarūpako chhoḍakar bāhar jānā, sachamuchamen yah vibhāv hamārā desh nahīn hai, ham yahān̐ kahān̐ ā gaye? hamārā chaitanyadesh alag hī hai. yah to kāle nāg jaisā, sarpa jaisā hai. upayogakī ḍorī apane hāthamen rakhatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! mumukṣhuke pās koī ḍorī hai? gnānīke pās to..

samādhānaḥ- mumukṣhuke hāthamen kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen ḍorī to pratyakṣha usake puruṣhārthakī hai. mumukṣhuke hāthamen ruchikī ḍorī hāthamen rakhanī. usakī ruchi manda nahīn paḍ jāye, dūsare kāyāmen mumukṣhukī bhūmikāse adhik koī kāyāmen, mumukṣhuko shobhā nahīn de aise kāyāmen jānā nahī̃n. ātmākī or ātmārthakā prayojan, ātmākā mujhe mukhya prayojan hai. pratyek kāyāmen mujhe ātmā kaise prāpta ho, is prayojanake sāth dūsarā prayojan ā nahīn jāye-koī laukikakā yā dūsarā koī yā mānādi, aisā koī bhī prayojan nahīn āye. mujhe pratyek kāyāmen ātmākā prayojan hai. aisī ātmākī ruchi, ātmākī ruchi usake hāthamen hai.

vah ḍorī to alag bāt hai, vah to ḍorī khīn̐chatā hī rahatā hai. yahān̐ to ruchiko ātmāke prayojan sivāy, dūsare koī prayojanake kārya, usamen laukik kāryakā mujhe prayojan nahīn hai. ek ātmākā prayojan hai. mujhase rahā nahīn jātā, main puruṣhārtha nahīn kar pātā hūn̐, parantu mujhe prayojan ek ātmākā hai.

... vah aise rāh nahīn dekhatā ki jab milanevālā hogā tab milegā. khānā- pīnā ādi nahīn milegā, aise rāh nahīn dekhatā. vah prayās karane jātā hai. vaise jise bhūkh lagī ho, vah puruṣhārtha kiye binā nahīn rahatā. jise ātmākī lagī hai, ātmāke binā chain nahīn paḍatā, usakī laganī lage vah puruṣhārtha kiye binā nahīn rahatā. ātmāke vichār kare, ātmākī pratīt karanekā prayatna kare, pahachānanekā prayatna kare, ātmā mujhe kaise prāpta ho, usakā bārambār abhyās kare, puruṣhārtha kare. kālalabdhikī (rāh nahīn dekhatā).

main puruṣhārtha karun̐, mujhe ātmā kaise prāpta ho? aisī use laganī lage, vah rāh nahīn dekhatā. aur jo puruṣhārtha karatā hai, use kālalabdhi pak jātī hai. puruṣhārthake sāth kālalabdhikā sambandha hai. jo puruṣhārthakī rāh dekhatā hai, use ātmākī lagī hī nahī̃n.

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jise lagī nahīn use kālalabdhi hai. lagī hī nahī̃n. ātmākī lagī ho, vah rāh hī nahīn dekhatā.

...svayam hī hai, parantu svayaṅko kahān̐ svayaṅkī pratīt hai? svayam to hai. usakī laganī (nahīn hai). use ātmākī anubhūti nahīn hai, ātmākā vedan nahīn hai. isaliye mujhe ātmākī svānubhūti, ātmākā vedan mujhe kaise ho? gnāyakakī pariṇati mujhe kaise pragaṭ ho? hai to svayam, svayam svayaṅko pahachānatā nahīn, bhūl gayā hai. isaliye jignāsā, laganī lage binā nahīn rahatī. svayam svayaṅko bhūl gayā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhagavānake samavasaraṇamen devon aur indron āte hain, us vakta vahān̐ke jo prajājan hote hain, to devon aur indroṅke sāth mitrāchārī hotī hai? aisā koī prasaṅg banā thā? yā aisā kuchh ho sakatā hai? unake sāth mitrāchārī yā...

samāchāraḥ- devoṅko kisīke ūpar... use koī upakār huā ho aur koī devako bhāv āve to koī manuṣhyakā, rājākā puṇya ho to use le jāte hain, meru parvat para. le jāye, parantu use mitrāchārī ho yā aisā koī devakā prasaṅg bane, dev kuchh bāt kare, aisā ban sakatā hai. usake sāth mitrāchārī...

mumukṣhuḥ- jo akr̥utrim jinālay hain, vahān̐ darshan karanekā bhāv āve aur bāt kare to le jāye?

samādhānaḥ- jise bahut bhāvanā ho, usakā aisā puṇya ho to devako vichār ātā hai ki ise le jāūn̐.

mumukṣhuḥ- āpako athavā gurudevako aisā koī prasaṅg banā thā?

samādhānaḥ- vah koī bāt nahī̃n. solahaven shāntināth bhagavān, unhen agale koī bhavamen dev le gaye haĩn. sab mandiroṅke darshan karavāye haĩn. shāntināth bhagavānake jīvako...

mumukṣhuḥ- solahaven bhavamen? samādhānaḥ- agale bhavamẽn. murgeke rūpamen parīkṣhā kī hai, vah sab prasaṅg āte haĩn. dev prasanna hokar, unhen vimānamen biṭhākar mandiroṅke darshan-shāshvat mandiroṅke darshan karane le jātā hai. apane yahān̐ chitra hai. nandīshvaramen hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

 

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