Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 4.

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amR^it vANI (bhAg-2)
(prashamamUrti pUjya bahenashrI cha.npAbahen kI
AdhyAtmik tattvacharchA)
Trek-004 (audio) (View topics)

hA.N, vah to sharIr kiyA karatA hai. sharIr bhinna aur AtmA, dono.n vastu bhinna hai. vibhAv AkulatA ho lekin vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai.

prashnaH- ho jAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. vibhAv svaya.n hI AkulatAsvarUp hai, vah duHkharUp hai, usase AtmA bhinna hai. usase AtmA ko bhinna pahichAnanA, bhedaj~nAn karanA, usakA prayAs karanA, vahI kartavya hai, jIvan me.n vahI karane jaisA hai. sukh aur shAnti usame.n hI hai, bAhar kahI.n bhI sukh-shAnti hai hI nahI.n.

prashnaH- bAhya sukh me.n mAtAjI! itanI bhrAnti rahatI hai. svAdhyAy karate samay lage ki j~nAyak me.n hI sukh bharA hai. lekin bAhar me.n thoDe bhI anukUl sa.nyog mile, isase to achChA huA, aisI bhrAnti me.n anukUlatA lagatI hai. vibhAv me.n hI rahanA hotA hai. vah kyo.n nahI.n ChUTatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- anAdi kA abhyAs hai, ekatvabuddhi anAdi kA anAdi kA hai. usase bhinna honA vah svaya.n prayAs kare to ChUTe. nira.ntar usakA abhyAs karanA paDe, nira.ntar, nira.ntar, nira.ntar karanA paDe. to hotA hai. anAdi kA pravAh hai usame.n dauDatA


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hai. svaya.n jAnanevAlA andar bhinna hI hai. jAnanevAle me.n hI sab bharA hai. vastu hI vahI hai. jAnanevAlA hai usame.n hI pUrA mahattva aur pUrNa Ashcharya bharA hai. bAhar me.n kahI.n bhI Ashcharya nahI.n hai. lekin usako bAhar me.n ekatvabuddhi ke kAraN doD jAtA hai, bAhar me.n Ashcharya lagatA hai. bAhar me.n kahI.n bhI Ashcharya nahI.n hai. Ashcharya to andar AtmA hI AshcharyarUp vastu hai, vahI anupam hai. usake jaisA koI nahI.n hai. yah sab to parapadArtha hai. jagat me.n anupam aur AshcharyakArI padArtha ho to AtmA hI hai. usakA bAr-bAr abhyAs, usakI mahimA, usake-tattva ke-vastu ke vichAr (karanA). vah nahI.n ho tabatak shubhabhAv me.n jinendradev, guru aur shAstra kI mahim (karanI). bAkI andar shuddhAtmA, dhyey to ek shuddhAtmA kA honA chAhiye. AtmA hI sarvasva hai.

prashnaH- j~nAyak me.n ekatvabuddhi kaise karanI? mAtAjI!

samAdhAnaH- vah to svaya.n prayAs kare to hotI hai, binA prayAs hotI nahI.n. par ke sAth ekatvabuddhi pratikShaN aisI anAdi kI bhrAnti ke kAraN usake sAth ekamek ho gayA hai. utanA prayAs andar apanA svabhAv hai usame.n kare to ek kShaN me.n ho aisA hai. lekin nahI.n ho tabatak usakA nira.ntar abhyAs karanA chAhiye. vah to aise hI chaubIso.n ghaNTe ekatvabuddhi chal rahI hai. bAra.nbAr usase bhinna hone kA prayatna kare to hotA hai. dUsare kA mai.n kar sakatA hU.N aur merA dUsarA kar sakatA hai, aisI anek prakAr kI bhrAnti kartAbuddha kI, ekatvabuddhi kI anek prakAr kI (chalatI hai). usame.nse mai.n to j~nAyak hU.N, isaprakAr j~nAyak kI or jhukanA apane hAth kI bAt hai. ruchi kare.

prashnaH- mAtAjI! ek prashna kI mujhe hameshA ulajhan rahatI hai ki anubhUti ke kAl me.n jab apanI dR^iShTi vahA.N hotI hai, usame.n ekAkAr ho, us vakta use par kA bhI j~nAn hotA hai yA us vakta mAtra sva kA hI arthAt mai.n j~nAyak chidAna.nd kA hI j~nAn hotA hai yA par kA bhI sAth me.n (hotA hai)? us vakta upayog to andar hai, anubhUti ke kAl me.n, to us vakta par kA j~nAn (kaise ho)?

samAdhAnaH- par kI or upayog nahI.n hai, shuddhAtmA kI or upayog hai. svAnubhUti.. sva kI or upayog hai isaliye sva kI or kA j~nAn (hai). par or kA j~nAn, us or upayog nahI.n hai. vah sab use gauN ho gayA, ChUT gayA hai. par or ke buddhipUrvak ke vikalpa ChUT gaye hai.n. us or-par or usakA upayog hI nahI.n hai. apanI svAnubhUti me.n upayog hai.

prashnaH- sAdhakadashA me.n dR^iShTi vahA.N ho lekin sAdhakadashA me.n sva aur par dono.n


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kA j~nAn...

samAdhAnaH- svAnubhUti ke kAl me.n nahI.n hai. svAnubhUti ke kAl me.n vikalpa ChUT gayA isaliye..

prashnaH- nahI.n, mAtAjI! anubhUti ke kAl me.n nahI.n aur anubhUtime.n-se bAhar AyA us vakta..

samAdhAnaH- us samay to sab j~nAn hotA hai. vah to apanI j~nAyak kI pariNati bhinna pariNamatI hai aur usake sAth upayog bAhar jAtA hai isaliye sab khyAl hai. sva aur par dono.n kA jAnatA hai. svaya.n ko j~nAyak ko jAnatA hai aur vibhAv ko bhI jAnatA hai. jo-jo vikalpa Ate hai.n un sab ko jAnatA hai.

prashnaH- jAnatA hai, tadAkAr (nahI.n hotA). mAtra j~nAyak jAnanevAlA hai utanA hI samyagdR^iShTi ko rahatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ekatvabuddhi nahI.n hai, pratikShaN bhedaj~nAn vartatA hai.

prashnaH- anubhUti kAl me.n svaparaprakAshak AtmA kA j~nAyak kA guN hai to us vakta paraprakAshak me.n vah mai.n nahI.n, us prakAr kA j~nAn to vartatA hogA na?

samAdhAnaH- us vakta usakA upayog hI nahI.n hai. svabhAv to svaparaprakAshak hai hI, lekin vah kArya me.n nahI.n hai, upayog svasanmukh hai aur Chadmastha hai. kevalaj~nAnI ko nirmalatA ho gaI hai isaliye svaparaprakAshak pratyakSha j~nAn ho gayA. Chadmastha kA upayog hai vah ek samay me.n ek hI or kAm karatA hai. isaliye svAnubhUti ke kAl me.n jo svaparaprakAshak usakA svabhAv hai, us svabhAv kA nAsh nahI.n huA hai. lekin upayog usakA svasanmukh hai. us j~nAn kA nAsh nahI.n huA, vah hai use. labdha me.n hai, use shakti me.n hai, nAsh nahI.n hota. Chadmastha kA upayog ek samay me.n ek or hI hotA hai.

sa.nsAr kA ras andar ekatvabuddhi toDakar andar AtmA kI ruchi lage, AtmA kI mahimA lage to hotA hai. AtmA koI apUrva vastu, anupam vastu hai. ananta janma- maraN karate-karate manuShyadeh mile usame.n yah AtmA koI anupam tattva hai. usakI shraddhA pahale to andarase ho. use pahichAnane kA prayatna kare to hotA hai. nahI.n ho tabatak vichAr, vA.nchan, dev-guru-shAstra kI mahimA (AtI hai), lekin dhyey ek (hotA hai ki) mujhe AtmA kaise pahichAnane me.n Aye? usakI gaharI jij~nAsA andar karanI chAhiye. bAhar kA ras nyUn ho jAya. andar chaitanya kI mahimA vR^iddhigat ho to hotA hai.

ananta kAlase jIvane bAhya kriyA me.n dharma mAn liyA hai, bAharase dharma mAn liyA


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hai, dharma to andar AtmA me.n hai. svabhAv ko pahichAne to dharma hotA hai. apane svabhAv me.n dharma rahA hai. dharma bAhar nahI.n hai. jahA.N apanA jAnan svabhAv hai, vahI.n usakA dharma rahA hai. use pahichAne, usakI shraddhA kare, usakA j~nAn kare, usame.n lInatA kare to mukti kA mArga pragaT hotA hai.

... vah sab to bAhar kA hai. andar AtmA ko pahichAne to hotA hai. andar AtmA kI mahimA lage, ruchi lage, AtmA ko pahichAne to hotA hai. andarase bhedaj~nAn kare. sachche guru, sachche shAstra ko grahaN kare, usakI mahimA kare. lekin karanA to khud ko hI hai, koI kar nahI.n detA. vah sab shubhabhAv hai, lekin jabatak AtmA pahachAnA nahI.n jAye tabatak ashubhabhAvase bachane ke liye shubhabhAv Ate hai.n. dev-guru- shAstra kI mahimA ityAdi shubhabhAv Ate hai.n. lekin un sabase AtmA bhinna hai andara. svaya.n prayatna kare to hotA hai. shuddhAtmA kaise pahichAnA jAy, dhyey usakA honA chAhiye.

koI kisIkA kuCh kar nahI.n sakatA. sab ke puNya-pAp ke uday anusAr hotA hai. svaya.n bhAv kare ki mai.n isakA achChA karu.n, bAkI usake puNya-pAp ke uday anusAr hotA hai. khud to bhAv karake nimitta banatA hai. bAkI sAmanevAle kA uday hotA hai, usake rajakaN svata.ntra hai, sharIr ke, rog ke. vah khud kuCh kar nahI.n sakatA, bhAv kare to nimitta hotA hai. kisI bhI dravya kA koI kArya kar nahI.n sakatA. yah kyA isame.n AtA hai? AtmA kA svarUp kyA? tattva kA kyA, dravya-guN-paryAy kA kyA svarUp hai, usakA svAdhyAy kare. pa.nchamakAl me.n janma lekar mahAn upakAr kiyA hai. gurudevane sab ko AtmasvarUp kI pahachAn karavAI. hindI, gujarAtI sabhI ko jAgR^it kiye. mahAn upakAr gurudev kA.

prashnaH- us vakta upayog bAhar AyA ho, dharmAtmA ko usakA vedan jo chAlU rahatA hai vah j~nAn me.n pakaD me.n AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- pakaD me.n AtA hai, barAbar pakaD me.n AtA hai. svAnubhUtime.n-se bAhar AtA hai phir use jo j~nAyak kI shuddha pariNati vartatI hai, vah shuddha pariNati use barAbar pakaD me.n AtI hai.

mumukShuH- vedan pakaD me.n AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vedan pakaD me.n AtA hai. nahI.n pakaD me.n Aye to vah sAdhakadashA hI nahI.n hai.

prashnaH- upayog bAhar me.n hai na.

samAdhAnaH- upayog bAhar hai, lekin andar pariNati chAlU hai.


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prashnaH- pariNati kA vedan hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, pariNati kA vedan hai. upayog bhale hI bAhar hai, parantu pariNati kArya karatI hai. khud bhinna hI rahatA hai, upayog bAhar jAtA hai to bhI svaya.n j~nAyak kI dhArA bhinna hI (rahatI hai). koI bhI vikalpa Aye, vahA.N upayog bAhar me.n rukatA hai to bhI ekatvabuddhi TUT gaI hai, bhedaj~nAn kI dhArA vartatI hai aur j~nAyak kI pariNati bhinna vartatI hai. us pariNati kA use vedan hai. A.nshik shAnti-samAdhi vartatI hai. pahale kI bhA.Nti ekamek AkUlatArUp nahI.n ho jAtA, bhinna rahatA hai. us pariNati kA use vedan hai. usakA upayog bhale hI bAhar hai isaliye khud ko svaya.n kA vedan nahI.n hai yA jAn nahI.n sakatA, upayog vahA.N jAye to hI jAne aisA nahI.n hai, usakI pariNati vahA.N kArya karatI hai.

prashnaH- shAnti kA vedan use sahajarUpase chAlU hI hai aur vah use anubhav me.n A rahA hai.

samAdhAnaH- sahajapane chAlU hI rahatA hai. nirvikalpa kA Ananda vah ek alag chIj hai, lekin vartamAn dhArA me.n shAnti kA vedan usase vartatA hI rahatA hai.

prashnaH- mAtAjI! in dono.n ke bIch me.n kyA pharka paDatA hai? nirvikalpa ke samay jo AhlAd kA anubhav hotA hai aur pariNati me.n jo shAnti kA vedan hotA hai, in dono.n ke bIch kyA antar hai?

samAdhAnaH- vikalpa ChUTakar Ananda AtA hai vah Ananda alag hai. vikalpa or kA upayog ChUT gayA aur mAtra AtmA rah gayA. upayog AtmA me.n jam gayA aur vah jo Ananda AtA hai, vikalpa ChUTakar jo Ananda AtA hai, AtmA par dR^iShTi to thI lekin usame.n jo lIn ho gayA, vah lIn hokar jo Ananda AtA hai vah alag hai. bhedaj~nAn kI dhArA ke bIch savikalpadashA me.n vah Ananda nahI.n hotA. use shAnti hotI hai.

prashnaH- vah AhlAd alag prakAr kA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah AhlAd alag prakAr kA hai. bIch me.n jo rahatA hai vah shAnti kA vedan rahatA hai. savikalpatA. vah shAnti kA jo vedan hai, vaisA shAnti kA vedan ekatvabuddhi me.n nahI.n hotA. bhrAnti kI dashA me.n vah shAnti kA vedan nahI.n hotA. samyagdR^iShTi ko bhedaj~nAn kI dhArA me.n jo shAnti kA vedan hai, vaisA vedan, vah vedan ekatvabuddhi me.n, bhrAnti me.n nahI.n hotA. vah vedan alag hai. lekin usase bhI jo nirvikalpadashA kA AhlAd hai vah AhlAd alag hai. vikalpa ChUTakar jo AtA hai, AkulatA, jo asthiratA thI vah asthiratA bhI gauN ho gaI, abuddhipUrvak ho gaI, isaliye asthiratA


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bhI nahI.n hai. mAtra upayog jam gayA, khud AtmA me.n ekAkAr ho gayA. isaliye vah Ananda alag hai. aur savikalpatA me.n A.nshik asthiratA hai. isaliye jitanI dashA bhedaj~nAn kI dhArA kI jo chAlU hai us shAnti kA use vedan hai.

prashnaH- jAt ek hI hai ki alag kahI jAtI hai? jAt to ek hI hai na?

samAdhAnaH- jAt mAne shAnti alag hai. shAnti aur Ananda, ye dono.n alag chIj hai. hai sab paryAy shAnti, Ananda kI paryAye.n hai.n, lekin vah Ananda alag hai aur yah shAnti alag hai.

prashnaH- atIndriy ke samay vah alag prakAr kA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah jAti alag hai. savikalpatA me.n jo shAnti hai usase nirvikalpa dashA kA Ananda alag chIj hai, vah alag hai, ek nahI.n hai. yah thoDA hai aur vah adhik ho gayA, aisA bhI nahI.n hai. vah jAti alag hai. anupam hai, jise upamA lAgU nahI.n hotI. vah alag hai. mAtra AtmA ke Ashrayase jo lInatA AtI hai vah alag AtI hai, andar lIn hokar AtI hai. vah siddhadashA ke samAn Ananda hai. vah alag hai. savikalpatA kI aur usakI jAti dono.n alag hai. sab ek chAritradashA kI paryAy kahI jAtI hai, lekin vah jAti alag hai. vah siddhadashA kA namUnA kahA jAtA hai, vah savikalpatA me.n nahI.n hai. vah atIndriy nahI.n hai, shAnti kA vedan hai, j~nAyak kA vedan hai.

prashnaH- AtmA me.n yadi a.ntarmuhUrta sthir ho to sIdhA kevalaj~nAn prApta kar le, itanA ugra hai. vah Ananda kI jAti bhI alag..

samAdhAnaH- vah Ananda kI jAti bhI alag aur usame.n yadi sthir ho jAy, a.ntarmuhUrtasi adhik sthir hove, a.ntarmuhUrta kA hI upayog hai, usame.n lInatA baDhakar chAritra kI or yadi shreNI jAye to kevalaj~nAn hotA hai. chAritradashA nahI.n hai abhI, jo munio.n kI dashA hotI hai vaisI dashA (nahI.n hai). shivabhUti muni ko vah dashA a.ntarmuhUrta me.n A gayI to kevalaj~nAn pragaT huA. a.ntar me.n hI yadi chAritra kI dashA A jAye to ho. lekin use a.ntar me.n munidashA chAhiye, to kevalaj~nAn hotA hai.

prashnaH- samyagdarshan kI bhUmikA me.n jo shAnti kI dhArA chal rahI hai, vah pariNati atIndriy pariNati nahI.n kahI jAtI hai na? indriyAdhIn...?

samAdhAnaH- indriyo.n kI AdhIn vah nahI.n hai, khud ke AdhIn hai.

prashnaH- atIndriy pariNati ko atIndriy shabda.. atIndriy pariNati chal rahI hai, aisA kah sakate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- indriyo.n ke AdhIn nahI.n hai, usame.n indriyo.n kA Ashray nahI.n hai isaliye


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atIndriy kahe.n. use Ashray AtmA kA hai, shAnti ke vedan ko, use indriyo.n kA Ashray nahI.n hai. atIndriy hai, hai atIndriy, lekin abhI usakA upayog bAhar hai na, isaliye jo nirvikalpa dashA kA Ananda hai vaisA Ananda nahI.n AtA.

prashnaH- kahalAye atIndriy, phir bhI dono.n ke bIch..

samAdhAnaH- upayog nahI.n huA hai na, pariNati atIndriy hai, upayog nahI.n hai, upayog bAhar hai. bAhar upayog me.n sab Ashray ChUT jAy, mAtra chaitanya me.n upayog jam jAy to siddhadashA kA Ananda AtA hai.

prashnaH- mAtAjI! muni jo bAra.nbAr nirvikalpa nirvikalpa nirvikalpa.. bAhya shubhAshubh bhAv me.n to itanI tAkat nahI.n hai, to yah pariNati-shuddha pariNati vahan kar rahI hai vah upayog ko lAtI hogI na?

samAdhAnaH- shuddha pariNati svaya.n kI or upayog ko khI.nch letI hai. prayatnarUp dashA usakI chAlU hai. shuddha pariNati jo A.nshik pragaT huI hai vah pariNati upayog ko apanI or khI.nch letI hai. a.ntarmuhUrta a.ntarmuhUrta me.n khI.nch lAtI hai. usakI dashA hI aisI hai ki jyAdA Tik hI nahI.n pAtA. vikalpa kI dhArA me.n muni kI pariNati Tik hI nahI.n pAtI. bArabAr pariNati svarUp me.n jam jAtI hai. aisI unakI puruShArtha kI dhArA sahaj hai. pariNati bAr-bAr upayog ko khI.nch letI hai.

prashnaH- upayog bAhar me.n ho tab shuddha pariNati ko labdha hai aisA kah sakate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, use labdha kahate hai.n.

prashnaH- vaise to j~nAn me.n hI labdhapanA hotA hai. labdha aur upayog to pariNati ko hI...

samAdhAnaH- labdha kah sakate hai.n. lekin vah labdha aisA nahI.n hai ki ek or paDA hai. usakA labdha ughADarUp hai. use khyAl me.n Aye isaprakAr kArya karatA hai. labdha aisA hai. upayog kI apekShAse labdha kahate hai.n, bAkI pariNati kArya karatI hai. isaliye labdha hai vah khyAl me.n nahI.n Aye aisA nahI.n hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!
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