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samAdhAnaH- bAhya sa.nyog to palaTate rahate hai.n. abhI aisA dikhe, phir ... to kuCh (dikhe). pahalI bAt to shubhabhAvase dharma hotA hai, aisA mAnate the, puNyame.n dharma mAnate the. usame.nse gurudevane bhavakA abhAv honekA (pa.nth batAyA). gurudevane hI pUre hindustAname.n prachAr kiyA hai, dUsarA kaun jAnatA thA? hindustAname.n bhI vah sab hindI log tattvArtha sUtra paDh le aur dUsarA paDh le to mAno kitanA jAn liyA. usame.nse samayasAr Adi paDhanA sikhAyA gurudevane. hindI logoe.nme.n bhI gurudevane hI prachAr kiyA.

mumukShuH- jI hA.N, gurudevane pUre hindustAname.n..

samAdhAnaH- sabako jAgR^it kiyA hai. bAkI sab to tattvArtha sUtra Adi paDhakar mAno.n ham (kitanA jAnate hai.n), gommaTasArako mAnate the. usame.nse gurudevane sabako tattvakI ruchikI or moDA hai. usame.n purAne logo.nko kriyAkANDakA (Agrah) hotA hai. gurudevane sabako sulajhAkar ek AtmAkI or sabako moDA hai. is or to gurudevakA baDA upakAr hai. pUre hindustAname.n. gurudevakI mahimA jitanI ho utanI karane jaisI hai. jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra. ek j~nAyak AtmA kaise jAnaneme.n Aye? bAharame.n sab hotA rahatA hai, dUsarA kyA ho sakatA hai? shAnti rakhanI. jayapurame.n kuCh adhyAtmakA paDhate ho.n to gurudevase hI sab (jAnA hai). baraso.nse sabako sa.nskAr paDe hai.n. gurudevane prachAr kiyA. jayapur Adi har jagah gurudevakA hI pratAp hai. sab sIkhe hai.n ve gurudevake pAs sIkhe hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- .. svakI or abhyAs kare. mai.n chaitanya hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, ye merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, aise nij svabhAvame.n dR^iShTi kare. mai.n chaitanya dravya hU.N, usakA svabhAv barAbar pahachAnakar us or jAy to pariNati par-orase haTe. gujarAtIme.n samajhame.n AtA hai?

mumukShuH- jI hA.N.

samAdhAnaH- svaya.nko-chaitanyako svakA Ashray hai. parakA Ashray to anAdise liyA hai. chaitanya apane svabhAvakA Ashray kare, us par dR^iShTi kare, us or j~nAn kare us dishA palaT de. par or jo dishA hai, (use palaTakar) svasanmukh dishA kare to apanI or bAra.nbAr abhyAs karatA rahe to hotA hai. jaise ChAChame.nse makkhan judA paDe to bAra.nbAr,

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bAra.nbar usakA manthan karate-karate makkhan bAhar Aye. vaise sva-orakA abhyAs kare to nirAlA honekA prayatna ho. kisIko ho use a.ntarmuhUrtame.n hotA hai. na ho use der lagatI hai, parantu usakA abhyAs karatA rahe, ChoDe nahI.n, usame.n thake nahI.n, parantu bAra.nbAr abhyAs kare. usakI AkulatA nahI.n, dhairyase aur bhAvanA karake bhI us or abhyAs kare to hotA hai. bAkI chaitanyadravya to anAdiananta ananta shaktio.nse bharapUr hai. usame.n usakI ek bhI shakti nahI.n huyI hai. ananta kAl huA to bhI shaktiyA.N paripUrNa hai.n. paripUrNa shaktio.nkA bhaNDAr ananta mahimAse bharapUr hai. ananta adabhUtatA usame.n bharI hai. aisA chaitanyadravya hai. usakI mahimA karake us or jAy, usakA bhedaj~nAn kare to hue binA rahatA hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- maname.n ek prashna yah uThatA hai ki udhar yadi dekhabhAl nahI.n kare.nge to kaise kAm chalegA? dukAnakA bigAD ho jAyagA, ghar kharAb ho jAyagA, yah prashna andarame.n bahut chalatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah to apanA rAg hai, vikalpa hai. jo honevAlA hotA hai vah hotA hai. rAgake kAraN sab vikalpa Ate hai.n ki ye kharAb ho jAyagA. rAgake kAraN prayatna hotA hai, bAkI jo honevAlA hai vahI hotA hai. svaya.n puruShArtha kare to hogA, aisA nahI.n hotA. parantu apane rAgake kAraN use vikalpa Ate rahate hai.n.

ananta kAl huA. yah manuShyabhav durlabhatAse milatA hai. usame.n is pa.nchamakAlame.n aise gurudev mile, aisA mArga batAyA, aisA mArga batalAnevAle koI nahI.n hai. sab kriyAme.n dharma mAnate the, shubhabhAv-puNyabhAvame.n dharma (mAnate the). usame.n shuddhAtmAme.n dharma batAnevAle gurudev mile. manuShyabhavame.n AtmAme.n kuCh ho to vah saphal hai. manuShyajIvan chalA jAy... manuShyabhavame.n hI usake gahare sa.nskAr boye, bhedaj~nAn kare, bhinna AtmAko jAne to saphal hai. bAkI bAharakA chAhe jitanA dhyAn rakhe to bhI jo honevAlA hotA hai vah hotA hai, apane hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. kuCh bhI kare to bhI honevAlA hai.

parantu yah chaitanyadravya to apane hAthakI bAt hai. puruShArtha kare to pragaT ho aisA hai. apanI mandatAke kAraN ananta kAl vyatIt kiyA hai. isaliye aisA puruShArtha, andar apanI mahimA lagakar us or puruShArtha karanA chAhiye. a.ntarame.n sab bharA hai. svagharame.n ananta nidhi bharI hai. usame.n j~nAn, darshan, chAritra sab svame.nse pragaT hotA hai, parame.nse nahI.n AtA hai.

ananta j~nAn, ananta shakti bharI hai, ananta Ananda bharA hai. vikalpa TUTakar svAnubhUti ho to usame.nse ananta Ananda pragaT hotA hai. sab chaitanyame.nse pragaT hotA hai, bAharase kuCh nahI.n AtA. bAharakA to honevAlA hotA hai vah hotA hai. isaliye is manuShya

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bhavame.n ye manuShyabhav chalA jAyagA, mere AtmAkA kyA hogA? usakI chi.ntA karane jaisI hai. ye bAharakI chintA ananta kAl bahut kI, parantu mere chaitanyakI chaitanyake andar kuCh saphalatA ho, shuddhAtmAme.n shuddha paryAy pragaT ho, vah karane jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- nahI.n .. hone par bhI anumAname.n bhI viShay AtA hai, to bhI AtmAkA bahumAn itanA kyo.n nahI.n AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- parakA bahumAn AtA hai. chaitanyame.n ananta shakti, ananta Ananda hai. adabhUt dravya hai. parame.n mahimA jAtI hai, chaitanyakI mahimA nahI.n AtI hai. isaliye bAra.nbAr usakA vichAr karake, svabhAvako pahachAnakar usakI mahimA lAne jaisA hai. vah lAtA nahI.n. mahimAkA bhaNDAr AtmA hI hai. bAhar kahI.n mahimA nahI.n hai. nahI.n lAtA hai, vah svaya.nkI kachAs hai. svaya.nko pahachAnatA nahI.n hai aur par-or sab mahimA lagatI hai. nij svabhAv pahachAne to mahimA Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. jagatase bhinna chaitanyadravya koI adabhUt dravya hai, usakI mahimA Aye parakI mahimA ChUT jAya. lekin vah mahimA prayatna karake, vichAr karake bhI lAne jaisI hai. usakA nirNay karake.

mati-shrutaj~nAnase svaya.n nirNay kare ki mai.n yah chaitanyadravya hU.N, ye sab mai.n nahI.n hU.N. kShaNik vichAr, paryAy jitanA bhI mai.n nahI.n hU.N, mai.n to shAshvat dravya hU.N. phir paryAy to usame.n pragaT hotI hai, shuddha paryAya. usakA vedan ho. parantu dravya par dR^iShTi kare, shuddhAtmAkA vedan ho, sabakA yathArtha nirNay karake bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs kare. svakI ekatvabuddhi parase vibhakta. kShaN-kShaName.n mai.n bhinna hU.N, bhinna hU.N, bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs kare. jo- jo vikalpa Aye vah merA svarUp nahI.n hai, mai.n to j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n j~nAtA hI hU.N. is prakAr a.ntarase, buddhise ho vah ThIk, parantu a.ntarase ho aur bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho to vikalpa ChUTakar svAnubhUti ho, kaise ho, vahI karane jaisA hai. usakI mahimA lAye, na Aye to mahimA lAne jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- Ap jaise mahApuruSho.nkA yog milane par bhI, aisI preraNA milane par bhI jitanI AtmAko puruShArthakI jAgR^iti honI chAhiye utanI nahI.n hot pAtI. bhAv to hai aisA ki aisI hamArI jAgR^iti ho. vikalpa to aise bahut uThate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- apanA pramAd hai. gurudev kahate the na? "nij nayananI ALase nirakhyA nahI.n harine jarI'. apanI Alasake kAraN svaya.n svaya.nko dekhatA nahI.n hai, prayatna nahI.n karatA hai. chaitanyaprabhu apane pAs hI hai, svaya.n hI hai. parantu svaya.n svaya.nko dekhatA nahI.n hai, usake darshan karatA nahI.n aur par-or jAtA hai. apanI Alas hai, apanI ruchikI kShati hai. isaliye karatA nahI.n hai. ataH usIkI jarUrat lAkar vahI karane jaisA hai, AdaraNIy vahI hai, kalyANarUp vahI hai, ma.ngalarUp vahI hai. bas, aisA karake usIkI

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or dR^iDh nirNay karake vahI karane jaisA hai. jitanA j~nAnasvabhAv hai, vahI kalyANarUp hai. jo j~nAyak hai vahI kalyANarUp hai. bAkI kuCh kalyANarUp nahI.n hai. bAkI sab AkulatArUp hai, duHkharUp hai.

jo j~nAyak j~nAnasvabhAv hai vahI kalyANarUp hai aur j~nAnasvabhAvame.n hI sab bharA hai. j~nAname.n Ananda hai, ananta guN hai, ananta shaktiyA.N, ananta adabhUtatA sab j~nAyakame.n hI bharA hai. vahI karane jaisA hai, bAkI kuCh karane jaisA nahI.n hai. "isame.n sadA rativa.nt ban, isame.n sadA sa.ntuShTa re' samayasArame.n AtA hai. "isase hI ban tU tR^ipta, uttam saukhya ho jisase tujhe.' usame.nse sukh prApta kara. usame.n hI tujhe tR^ipti hogI. phir bAhar jAnekA man hI nahI.n hogA. vahI karane jaisA hai.

bAharakI kartAbuddhi ChoDakar j~nAyakakI j~nAtAdhArA ugra karake vah karane jaisA hai. sUkShma ChainI, j~nAnase barAbar pahichAnakar usakA bhedaj~nAn kar, (aisA) shAstrame.n AtA hai. vikalpa ChUTakar sAkShAt amR^it pIvanti. vikalpa jAl ChUTakar andarase amR^itakI dhArA, amR^itakA sAgar uChalegA. parantu vah svaya.n utanI ugratA kare, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT kare to hotA hai. shubhAshubh vikalpa, kShaNik paryAy jitanA mai.n nahI.n hU.N, mai.n to shAshvat dravya hU.N. guNo.nkA bhed paDe vah sab j~nAname.n Aye, parantu dR^iShTime.n to mai.n ek j~nAyak hI hU.N, aisA lakShyame.n lekar sab j~nAn kare aur puruShArtha kare. usakI ugratA kare to vikalpa TUTakar svAnubhUti hue binA nahI.n rahatI.

(munirAj) AtmAme.n hI lIn rahate hai.n. unhe.n pariNati jo bAhar jAtI hai vah duShkar lagatI hai. svaya.nme.n hI-chaitanyame.n hI bAra.nbAr a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n vishrAm lete hai.n. jagat jahA.N jAgatA hai, vahA.N ve sote hai.n aur jahA.N jagat so rahA hai, vahA.N muni AtmAme.n jAgR^it hai.n. unhe.n bAhar AnA mushkil hai. unhe.n a.ntarame.n hI shAnti aur Ananda lage. a.ntarame.n hI kShaN-kShaName.n chale jAte haiai.n. bAhar Aye, nahI.n Aye, a.ntarame.n chale jAte hai.n. aisI unakI pariNati hai. aisA karate-karate shAshvat AtmAme.n virAjamAn ho jAy to vItarAgadashA aur kevalaj~nAnakI prApti karate hai.n. .. vibhAv pragaTe, vibhAvame.nse svabhAv nahI.n pragaT hotA. svaya.n apaneme.n dR^iShTi kare to usame.nse hI shuddhatA pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShuH- ... ab to merA ghar hI yahI hai. ek paisA nahI.n jebame.n, mA.nD-mA.nD bhADA kharche to bhI mujhe koI phikar nahI.n hai. ApakI kR^ipAse vah sab dUr ho gayI. ab to merA ghar hai, merA piyar to yah hai.

samAdhAnaH- AtmAkA jo sthAn hai, vahI apanA nijaghar hai. a.ntarame.n AtmAkA ghar vah vishrAm (sthAn hai). jahA.N dev-guru-shAstra virAjate ho, vahI apanA vishrAm- ghar hai.

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mumukShuH- jahA.N sAkShAt chaitanyaprabhu virAjate ho, vah to ahobhAgya hai. darshan milanA is kAlame.n...

samAdhAnaH- .. jaldI Ate the. AtmAkA karanA vahI jIvanakI saphalatA hai. muumukShuH- Apane jo AshIrvAd diyA vah to merA kalyANakA kAraN hai. merA kalyAN hokar hI rahegA.

samAdhAnaH- ... bahut grahaN kiyA hai, vahI karanA hai. ... ye to koI prashna pUChe to kahate haiai.n, svAsthya aisA hai na.

mumukShuH- jI hA.N, ApakI ghaNI kR^ipA huyI, bahut kR^ipA hai.

samAdhAnaH- kaiseTame.n bahut UtarA hai.

mumukShuH- Apake vachanAmR^itakI kaiseT mere pAs hai.

mumukShuH- ...kartA-dhartA nahI.n hai, rAgame.n dharma hotA nahI.n, .. jo lakShaN hai, ... khyAlame.n AtA hai. bhUle rah jAtI hai ki kuCh puruShArthakI kamI hai?

samAdhAnaH- puruShArthakI kamI hai. jo nirNay hotA hai vah nirNay bhItarame.n kArya nahI.n karatA hai. nirNay nirNayame.n rah jAtA hai. jo nirNayakA kArya honA chAhiye ki... ek dravya dUsare dravyako karatA nahI.n hai, aisA nirNay to kiyA aur jo kArya karatA hai, usame.n mai.n karatA hU.N, mai.n karatA hU.N, vah buddhi to ChUTatI nahI.n. aur buddhime.n nirNay hotA hai ki ek dravya dUsare dravyako karatA nahI.n hai. phir bhI jo kArya karatA hai vah pratikShaN mai.n karatA hU.N, mai.n karatA hU.N, aisI pariNati to ho rahI hai. puruShArtha kam hai to usame.n shraddhAkI bhI kShati hai.

mumukShuH- shraddhAkI bhI kShati hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. yathArtha samyagdarshan kisako kahate hai.n? jisako yathArtha pratIti hove. jab yathArtha pratIt nahI.n huyI, samyagdarshan nahI.n huA tab nirNay bhI buddhise huA hai. pratItame.n bhI pariNati nahI.n hotI hai, mai.n kartA nahI.n hU.N, ye buddhime.n to AyA, parantu karatA hU.N, karatA hU.N usakI pariNati to ho rahI hai. vikalpame.n ekatvabuddhi aur rAg-dveShakI ekatvabuddhi chal rahI hai. mai.n aisA karatA hU.N, aisA karatA hU.N, aisI buddhi to bhItarame.n chAlU rahatI hai. bhItarame.n dekhe to bhItarame.n kartAbuddhi chal rahI hai. buddhime.n kartA nahI.n hU.N AtA hai, to bhI pariNati to vaisI chalatI hai. pariNatime.n yadi dekhe ki pariNatime.n aisA chalatA hai ki mai.nne yah kArya kiyA, mai.nne aisA kiyA, mai.nne aisA kiyA aisI ekatvabuddhi to bhItarame.n chalatI hai. isaliye puruShArthakI bhI kamI hai aur pariNatime.n jo nirNay kiyA vaisI pariNati nahI.n huyI hai.

mumukShuH- samyakake pahale samyakakI sanmukhatAvAlA jo jIv hai, vah savikalpa

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jo svasa.nvedan hotA hai, vah pUre asa.nkhya pradeshame.n hotA hai ki koI ... pradesho.nse hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- koI pradeshame.n aise nahI.n hotA hai. chetan akhaNDame.n hotA hai. koI amuk pradeshame.n hotA hai aisA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- manase nirNay kiyA to manase ... pUrNa hU.N, aisA visheSh jo ... shAnti milatI hai, vah niyat pradeshase hI AtI hai ki sarvA.ngase AtI hogI?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, sarvA.ngase AtI hai. man to vikalpa hai. man to vahA.N rahatA hai, to idharase lagatA hai. idharase lagatA hai.

mumukShuH- to Ananda bhI sarvA.ng hI AnA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, sarvA.ng AtA hai. pUrNa nahI.n AtA hai. samyagdarshaname.n to a.nsh AtA hai. sarvA.ng AtA hai. amuk pradeshame.n AtA hai aur amuk pradeshame.n nahI.n AtA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. AtmA to akhaNDa hai. to akhaNDame.n aisA khaNDa nahI.n paDatA ki amuk pradeshame.n Ananda AtA hai aur amuk pradeshame.n nahI.n AtA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. AtmA to akhaNDa hai. sabame.nse AtA hai. mukhya yahA.N man hai na, isaliye manake dvArA huA aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. yah man hai isaliye.

mumukShuH- ... sarva pradeshame.nse hotA hogA?

samAdhAnaH- sarva pradeshame.n a.nsh pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ye bAt khyAlame.n AyI ki jo nirNay ho, usame.n shraddhAkI bhI .... hai, usame.n khAmI hai.

samAdhAnaH- khAmI hai, jo nirNay hai aisA kArya nahI.n hai, pariNati nahI.n huyI. to nirNayame.n bhI khAmI hai. buddhise nirNay huA. buddhime.n nirNay to huA, nirNay to huA ki mai.n kartA nahI.n hU.N, rAg merA nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n hai, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N aisA nirNay to kiyA parantu j~nAyak kaun hai? ekatvabuddhi to chalatI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- aise hI lagatA hai ki j~nAyak hI hU.N, aisA jor AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- jor AtA hai, parantu isakA lakShaN pahachAnakarake mai.n ye j~nAyak hU.N, ye j~nAyak hU.N, aisA bhItarame.n to nahI.n hotA. ye j~nAyak hU.N, ye merA nahI.n hai, aisI j~nAtAbuddhi (hokar) kartAbuddhi TUT jAy aisA to nahI.n huA. isaliye joradAr nirNay pahale AtA hai, parantu jaisA vah sahaj pariNatirUp hotA hai, aisA nirNay nahI.n huA. isaliye puruShArthakI bhI kamI hai aur nirNay bhI jaisA kAryarUp hotA hai, vaisA nahI.n huA.

mumukShuH- aisA upAy pharamAo ki kamI nikal jAy aur puruShArthakI, .. shraddhAkI galatI nikal jAy aur puruShArthakI ThosatA-majabUtI A jAya.

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samAdhAnaH- kyA upAy hai? apanA nirNay dR^iDh karanA vah bhI puruShArtha karanese hotA hai aur sab puruShArthase hI hotA hai. gurudevane jo kahA vah yathArtha... apanA hI kAraN hai, dUsarA koI kAraN nahI.n hai. nirNay jo dR^iDh hotA hai, apane puruShArthase hotA hai. ruchi jahA.N-tahA.N ho, ekatvabuddhime.n ruchi chalI jAtI hai, jitanI ruchi j~nAyakame.n aur bhedaj~nAname.n honI chAhiye utanI nahI.n hotI hai. isaliye ekatvabuddhi chalatI rahatI hai. jo bhedaj~nAn hove to yathArtha j~nAyakakA jor, j~nAyakako pahachAnakarake jor AnA chAhiye. vichAr kiyA ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, to jor to hai, parantu j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp nahI.n hotA hai, isaliye nirNay nirNayarUp rah jAtA hai. nirNay to kiyA parantu kArya nahI.n AyA to puruShArtha karanA chAhiye ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, aisI pariNati kaise hove? vikalpa TUTanekI bAt to pIChe rah gayI aur j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N aisI pariNati to apanI honI chAhiye aur kartAbuddhi TUTanI chAhiye. nirNay to kiyA lekin aisI pariNati huyI nahI.n. vichAr kare to kShaN-kShaName.n dekhe ki kartAbuddhi hotI rahatI hai, vikalpame.n ekatvabuddhi, khAte- pIte, chalate-phirate sabame.n kartAbuddhi chalatI hai ki mai.n esA karatA hU.N, mai.n aisA karatA hU.N, aisI ekatvabuddhi pariNati to chalatI hai. isaliye puruShArtha karake toDanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- puruShArtha kaisA kare? samAdhAnaH- j~nAyakakI dhArA pragaT kare. j~nAyakakI j~nAyakarUp dhArA (pragaT kare) to kartAbuddhi TUTe. nirNay karake rah jAtA hai, buddhime.n j~nAyakakI dhArA to nahI.n huyI. j~nAyakakI dhArA pragaT kare to kartAbuddhi TUTe.