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mumukShuH- hamAre pAs parako jAnatA huA j~nAn hai to usame.nse j~nAyakako kaise jAn sake?
samAdhAnaH- parako jAnatA huA j~nAn ho, parantu j~nAyak svaya.n svataHsiddha anAdiananta vastu hai. us vastuko lakShaN dvArA pahachAn sakate hai.n. bhale parako jAnatA huA ho to j~nAyak svaya.n anAdiananta shAshvat hai. use pahachAn sakate hai.n. svaya.n hI hai, dUsarA nahI.n hai. isaliye svaya.n svaya.nko pahichanA sakatA hai, apane lakShaN dvArA svaya.nko pahachAn sakatA hai.
parako jAnanevAlA j~nAn ho to bhI svaya.n svataHsiddha AtmA hai na. anAdiananta j~nAyak svaya.n hI hai. svaya.n svaya.nko pahachAn sakatA hai. usakA j~nAnalakShaN asAdhAraN hai. parako jAnate hue j~nAnakA matalab parame.n pravesh nahI.n ho gayA hai. pararUp arthAt jaDarUp nahI.n ho gayA hai. svataHsiddha j~nAyak anAdiananta shAshvat dravya chaitanya hai. svaya.n svaya.nko pahachAn sakatA hai, lakShaNase pahachAn sake aisA hai. pahachAn na sake aisA nahI.n hai. svaya.n svaya.nkI or dR^iShTi kare, nij lakShaN dvArA svaya.nko pahachAn sakatA hai.
mumukShuH- parako jAnatA huA jo j~nAn hai, usIko lakShaN lenA?
samAdhAnaH- vah lakShaN nahI.n hai. parako jAnatA huA j~nAn lakShaN nahI.n hai. vah svaya.n svataHsiddha chaitanya anAdiananta j~nAyak svabhAv hai, us j~nAyakako pahachAna. parako jAnatA huA, usame.n koI paryAyako pahachAnanA yA ek guNako pahachAnanA hai aisA nahI.n hai, svataHsiddha j~nAyakako pahachAnanA hai. akelA j~nAnako pahachAnanA hai aisA nahI.n, (j~nAn) usakA asAdhAraN lakShaN hai, parantu akhaNDa dravyako pahachAnanA hai.
j~nAn bhale ho, use dR^iShTi chaitanya par karanI hai. dravyako pahachAnanA hai, ek paryAyako pahachAnanI hai aisA nahI.n hai. jo par-or jAtA hai use sva-or moDakar svaya.n svaya.nkI or dR^iShTi karake svaya.nko pahachAn sakatA hai. apanI or ruchi ho, apanI mahimA ho to chaitanyake lakShaN dvArA svaya.n svaya.nko pahachAn sakatA hai. usakI dR^iShTi bAhar hai, usakA lakShya bAhar hai, use a.ntarlakSha karanese svaya.nko pahachAn sakatA hai.
paryAyako nahI.n pahachAnanI nahI.n hai, dishA badalanese svaya.n svaya.nko pahachAn sakatA hai.
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anAdiananta svataHsiddha hai. praj~nAChainI dvArA svaya.n sUkShma hokar, apanI or jhukakar svaya.nko pahachAn sakatA hai.
mumukShuH- j~nAnIkI pariNatiko aj~nAnI dekh nahI.n sakatA, to j~nAnIkA nirNay kaise ho sake aj~nAnIse?
samAdhAnaH- vah dekh nahI.n sakatA, parantu lakShaN dvArA pahachAn sakate hai.n. j~nAnIkI pariNati vah dekh nahI.n sakatA. unakI bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati hai vah unakI vANIme.n unakA vajan kahA.N jAtA hai? kis orakI bAt AtI hai? vah sab unakI vANI dvArA unakA vajan kahA.N jAtA hai, vah pahachAn sakate hai.n. unakI pariNatiko, unake parichayase unakI vANI dvArA pahachAn sakate hai.n. sat or, dravya or unakI dR^iShTi kahA.N hai, unakI pariNati kyA kAm karatI hai? unakI vANI dvArA pahachAn sakate hai.n.
mumukShuH- bAkI bolatA ho aur j~nAnakA pariNaman nahI.n huA ho..
samAdhAnaH- a.ntarase, gaharAIse kahA.Nse AtI hai, usake vedaname.nse AtI hai? Upar- Uparase AtI hai? yA usakI pariNati use pragaT huyI usame.nse AtI hai? yA vah shAstrase bolatA hai? vah jisakI andarase satakI jij~nAsA ho vah pahachAn sakatA hai. usakI svAnubhavapUrvakakI vANI kaisI hai, vah pahachAn sakate hai.n. us jAtakI vANI ho to bhI usakA vajan kahA.N jAtA hai? usakI pariNati kahA.N kAm karatI hai, use pahachAn sakate hai.n.
ek sAmAnya manuShya ho, usake parichayase is AdamIkA hR^iday kyA kAm karatA hai? usakA kyA kAm karatA hai, vah AdamIke parichayame.n Anese sthUlame.n pahachAn sakate hai.n, to ye to usakI satarUp pariNati pragaT huI hai aur vANI muktike mArgakI nikalI hai, kis prakArakI nikalI hai, jise satakI jij~nAsA ho vah use pahachAn sakatA hai.
mumukShuH- bahin! gurudevane aisA pharamAyA thA ki jo Apake charaNo.nko lipaTakar rahegA usakA beDA pAr ho jAyagA, usakA artha kyA?
samAdhAnaH- usakA artha mai.n kyA karu.N? gurudevakA Ashay... usakA artha to... usakA artha mai.n kyA kah sakatI hU.N? .. gurudevakI arpaNatA karake rahe. gurudevake apUrva vachan the. gurudevakA AtmA koI alag thA. un par mahimA lAye, unakI vANI sune, unakI koI apUrva mahimA lAye to usakA beDA pAr hai. jisane gurudevako a.ntarase pahachAnA, gurudevako hR^idayame.n sthApit kiye, un par arpaNatA kI, jo gurudev kahe us rUp usakI pariNati pariName, aise jIvo.nkA beDA pAr hai. ve apUrva, unakA AtmA apUrva. aisI apUrvatA jisake hR^idayame.n lagI aur vah vANI jisane sunI, gurudevakA parichay kiyA, unakA sAnnidhyame.n (rahe), a.ntarame.n jise aisI koI apUrvatA lagI, usakA beDA pAr hai.
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mumukShuH- pariNatike viShayame.n Apase sunanA hai. vartamAname.n devalokame.n ...
samAdhAnaH- gurudev to abhI devalokame.n hai. yahA.Nse sab mahAn lekar hI gaye hai.n. vahA.N bhagavAnake darshan mile hai.n, unakI vANI milI hai to unako to visheSh a.ntarame.nse jo unhe.n chAhiye thA, bhagavAnakI bhAvanA thI, bhagavAnakI vANI sunanekI bhAvavA thI, unhe.n shrutaj~nAnakI itanI mahimA, sab unhe.n prApta ho gayA hai. shrutaj~nAname.n unhe.n visheSh puShTi mile aisA sab unhe.n prApta ho gayA hai. svaya.n a.ntarame.nse sab lekar devalokame.n gaye hai.n. bhagavAn mile, yog milA.
mumukShuH- yahA.N sabake bIch alag paD jAte the, vaise vahA.N bhI hogA na?
samAdhAnaH- unakI pariNati alag thI, alag dR^iShTise dekhe to alag dikhAI de. vah dravya alag thA, aisA sab jAnate ho ki ye koI tIrtha.nkarakA dravya hai. unakI pariNati nirmal, unakI nirmal pariNatiko sab jAn sakate hai.n. devo.nme.n to sab jAnanekI bahut shakti hotI hai ki ye tIrtha.nkarakA dravya hai, ye bhaviShyake tIrtha.nkar hai.n, aisA jAn sakate hai.n. dUsare dev bhI jAn sakate hai.n. bhaviShyake tIrtha.nkar hai.n, aisA sab jAn sakate hai.n. ye koI alag dravya hai. jAnanekI shakti hotI hai. ye bharatakShetrame.nse Aye hai.n. bhagavAnake pAs the. sab jAn sakate hai.n. bhaviShyame.n tIrtha.nkar honevAle hai.n, yah sab jAn sakate hai.n.
mumukShuH- vartamAn pariNati hai, vah kisako sUchit karatI hai? unake bhUtakAlakI yA unake bhaviShyakI? koI krodh karatA ho to pUrvame.n vah sA.Np thA aisA kahA jAyagA yA bhaviShyame.n sA.Np hogA aisA kahA jAyagA?
samAdhAnaH- usakI kis prakArakI puruShArthakI gati hai, us par (AdhArit hai). bachapaname.n ho to dikhAI de ki ye pUrvase kuCh lekar AyA hai. vartamAn a.ntarame.n jyAdA juDakar krodh karatA ho to aisA bhI kahA jAy ki ye bhaviShyame.n aisA hogA. vah kis prakArakA hai vah usakA AtmA jAne. bhUtakAlake sa.nskArase krodh Ave to vah vartamAname.n galat prakArase puruShArtha karake vartamAname.n krodhame.n juDatA ho to bhaviShyakA sUchak hai. bhUtakAlakA ho to pUrvakA sUchak hai. vartamAname.n jyAdA karatA ho to vah bhaviShyakA sUchak hai. usame.n kuCh nishchit nahI.n hotA hai. vah to log ek kalpanAse kahate hai.n ki ye krodhI hai isaliye aisA hogA. ye vartamAname.n (itanA) krodh karatA hai, isaliye bhaviShyame.n aisA hogA. kuCh nishchitarUp nahI.n hotA, usake pariNAm a.ntarame.n kyA kAm karate ho. bachapaname.n ho to pUrva bhavakA sUchak lage. phir to jaise-jaise svaya.n andar juDatA jAy to bhaviShyakA bhI hotA jAya.
mumukShuH- bahut bAr aisA hotA hai ki yah bhAv nahI.n karanA hai, to bhI vah
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vikalpa aur vichAr Aye to usakA kyA karanA? bahut bAr aisA hotA hai ki aise vichAr hame.n karane hai.n? aise vichAr hame.n nahI.n karane hai.n. aise vichAr Aye usakA kyA karanA?
samAdhAnaH- apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai, aise lenA. uday hai, usako grahaN karanese to apane puruShArthakI mandatA hotI hai. apanI vartamAn puruShArthakI to mandatA hai. udayakA kAraN usame.n le nahI.n sakate. uday to nimittamAtra hai. apane puruShArthakI mandatAse vah hotA hai. svaya.n use toD nahI.n sakatA hai, vah apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai. pUrvakA uday use jabarajastI nahI.n karatA ki tU yah bhAv kar hI kara. (aisA ho to) svaya.n parAdhIn ho jAya. vah use jabarajastI nahI.n kahatA hai, parantu apanI mandatAse vah hotA hai. apanI mandatAkA vah kAraN hai. yadi vah jabarajastI karatA ho to svaya.n parAdhIn ho jAya. usakI jabarajastI nahI.n hotI. apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai.
apane puruShArthakI mandatAkI orase le to use TUTanekA avakAsh hai. karma orase lenese use TUTanekA bhI avakAsh nahI.n hai. isaliye apanI mandatAse vah hotA hai. nimitta udayakA hai, parantu svaya.nkI vartamAn puruShArthakI mandatA hai. vah jabarajastIse use kahatA nahI.n hai ki tU kara. svaya.n use toD nahI.n sakatA isaliye apanI mandatA hai. aisA nirNay kiyA ki yah bhAv nahI.n karane hai.n, phir bhI Aye to usame.n apanI mandatA hai, usame.n pUrvakA kAraN nahI.n hai. uday to nimittamAtra hotA hai.
mumukShuH- use pudagalake pariNAm nahI.n lenA chAhiye.
samAdhAnaH- chaitanyame.n.n jo hote hai.n, use pudagalake pariNAm nahI.n lenA. pudagal to nimittamAtra hai. pudagalake pariNAm kab lenA? ki dravyadR^iShTike balase ki yah vibhAvasvabhAv bhI merA nahI.n hai, vah pudagalake nimittase hote hai.n, isaliye pudagalakA hai. isaliye usakA artha aisA nahI.n hai ki pudagal use karavAtA hai. svaya.n juDatA hai tab hote hai.n. vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai, chaitanyakA svabhAv shuddhatAse bharA hai, us apekShAse, dravyame.n shuddhatA hai us apekShAse use pudagalake kahA jAtA hai. usakA artha (aisA nahI.n hai ki) vah pudagal karatA hai. apane puruShArthakI mandatAse hote hai.n.
dravyadR^iShTise bhedaj~nAnase svaya.n bhinna kare do dravyako, tab use pudagalakA kah sakate hai.n. parantu use alpa asthiratA j~nAtAkI dhArA samyagdarshaname.n rahe to vah alpa asthiratA rahe to bhI vah puruShArthakI mandatAse rahatI hai. apane puruShArthakI ugratA hotI hai tab hI vah asthiratA jAtI hai. yadi vah jaD ho to use puruShArtha karanekA, samyagdarshan honeke bAd puruShArtha karanA hI nahI.n rahatA hai, to phir use turanta kevalaj~nAn ho jAnA chAhiye. use puruShArthakI mandatAse alpa asthiratA rahatI hai. use pudagalakA kahanA vah
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dravyadR^iShTike balase kahaneme.n AtA hai. do dravyako bhinna karake, bhedaj~nAnakI apekShAse kahaneme.n AtA hai. bAkI alpa samyagdarshan honeke bAd alpa asthiratA rahatI hai, vah yadi pudagalakI ho to phir samyagdarshan honeke bAd puruShArtha karanA bAkI nahI.n rahatA. samyagdarshan honeke bAd bhI puruShArtha karanA rahatA hai. ulpa asthiratA use rahatI hai to use puruShArthakI visheSh vR^iddhi ho aur chAritrakI vR^iddhi-svarUp ramaNatA baDhatI jAtI hai, svAnubhUti baDhatI jAtI hai vah puruShArthase baDhatI hai aur asthiratA TUTatI jAtI hai. vah puruShArthase hotA hai. aur kevalaj~nAn bhI aise hotA hai.
yadi sirpha pudagalake hI ho to phir kuCh puruShArtha hI nahI.n karanA rahatA. samyagdarshan huA aur sab pUrA ho gayA. dR^iShTi pUrNa ho gayI to usake sAthA chAritra-lInatA bhI pUrNa ho jAya. to use pudagalake kahA jAya. parantu abhI jabatak puruShArtha bAkI hai, tabatak asthiratA hai, apanI mandatAke kAraN hai. svabhAv apanA nahI.n hai, parantu puruShArthakI mandatA hai. puruShArthakI gati baDhe to vah TUT jAtA hai. apane svabhAvakI shuddhi baDhatI jAy, aise asthiratA kam hotI jAtI hai. asthiratA aise hI nahI.n TalatI, parantu apanI shuddhi andar baDhatI hai isaliye asthiratA kam ho jAtI hai.
.. aise hI vikalpa nahI.n TUTate, parantu apanI shuddhi ho to vikalpa svaya.n hI TUT jAte hai.n. jaise vikalpa ho vah TUT jAte hai.n. apanI andarakI shuddhi baDhe to. jaise- jaise bhUmikA baDhatI jAy, aise-aise asthiratA kam hotI jAtI hai. chaturtha guNasthAname.n usake anusAr asthiratA hotI hai, phir pA.NchavI bhUmikA ho, usakI svAnubhUtikI a.ntar pariNati, svarUp ramaNatA baDhatI jAy to us anusAr asthiratA hotI hai. phir ChaThThave- sAtave.n guNasthAname.n ekadam usakI nirmalatA ho, ChaThThave-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhule us anusAr usakI asthiratA ekadam kam ho jAtI hai. phir use sa.njvalanakA jo ekadam manda kaShAy hai aisA hI rahatA hai. phir usame.nse bhI adhik nirmalatA hotI hai isaliye usakA kShay hotA hai.
isaliye vah jaDake nahI.n hai. apane puruShArthakI gatike sAth sambandha rakhatA hai. jaDakA to... use do dravya bhinna paDate hai.n. ek chaitanyadravya aur vibhAva. usakA nimitta pudagal hai isaliye use pudagalake kahaneme.n AtA hai. apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai vah barAbara. usakI dravyadR^iShTime.n, j~nAtAdhArAme.n vah merA nahI.n hai, merA nahI.n hai, aise usakI j~nAyakakI ugratAme.n vah merA nahI.n hai, aise dR^iShTike balame.n use aisA hI AtA hai ki ye merA nahI.n hai. parantu asthiratAme.n merI mandatAse hotA hai, vah use j~nAname.n vartatA hai.
mumukShuH- .. pariNamatA hai ki..?
samAdhAnaH- pUrA AtmA nahI.n pariNamatA. AtmA to dravya apekShAse to shuddharUp
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pariNamatA hai. usakI j~nAyakakI pariNati hai. parantu use asthiratA (hai vah) andar tadagat ekatvabuddhise asthiratA nahI.n hai. asthiratA use amuk paryAyame.n pariNamatI hai. sarvA.nshase pUre dravyame.n asthiratA nahI.n pariNamatI. vaise to anAdiananta dravya svaya.n kahA.N pUrA ashuddha ho jAtA. dravyakI amuk shuddhatA to rahatI hai, use bhAn nahI.n hai. dravya apekShAse to shuddhatA bharI hai, parantu use bhAn nahI.n hai. isaliye j~nAn kare to dravya apekShAse shuddhatA hai aur phir pragaT pariNati huyI isaliye darshanakI apekShAse-dR^iShTikI apekShAse shuddhatA hai. parantu amuk paryAyo.nme.n use ashuddhatA rahatI hai. amuk paryAyame.n ashuddhatA rahatI hai.
samAdhAnaH- .. AtmAkA svabhAv to bhagavAn hI hai. AtmAne svaya.nne anAdikAlase paribhramaN kiyA, parantu usakA svabhAv jo hai, us svabhAvakA nAsh nahI.n huA hai. usakA svabhAv jo ananta shaktise bharA hai, usakA kevalaj~nAn, ananta j~nAnase bharA AtmA, ananta Ananda, ananta sukh, shAnti sab AtmAme.n ananta-ananta apUrva svabhAv hai, vah svabhAv aise hI bhare hai.n. shaktime.n hai. bhale pragaTame.n use vedan nahI.n hai, vedan use vartamAn sukh- duHkhakA aur rAgakA vedan hotA hai. parantu usakA jo svabhAv mUlame.n hai, us svabhAvakA nAsh nahI.n huA hai.
isaliye gurudev aisA kahate the ki tU bhagavAn hai, tU tujhe pahachAna. us or dR^iShTi kar, use pahachAn to usame.nse pragaT hogA. jaise sphaTik svabhAvase nirmal hai, vaise AtmAkA svabhAv to nirmal hai. svaphaTikame.n lAl aur pIle phUl rakhanese usame.n lAl aur kAlA pratibimba uThatA hai, parantu sphaTikakA mUl svabhAv hai vah chalA nahI.n jAtA. vaise AtmAkA mUl to, jaise kevalaj~nAnI siddha bhagavAn hai.n, vaisA usakA svabhAv hai. usake svabhAvakA nAsh nahI.n huA. jaise pAnI svabhAvase nirmal shItal hai, parantu kIchaDase mailA dikhatA hai. vaise karmake kAraN vah svaya.n usame.n juDatA hai, usake puruShArthakI kamajorIse usame.n malinatA dikhatI hai, parantu pAnI to nirmal hai. usame.n koI auShadhi DAle to usakI vah nirmalatA jaisI hai vaisI pragaT hotI hai.
vaise AtmA svaya.n svabhAvase nirmal hai. puruShArtha kare aur bhedaj~nAn kare ki ye malinatA merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, karma-orakI hai. parantu puruShArthakI kamajorIse hotA hai. lekin mai.n to j~nAyak jAnanevAlA AtmA hI hU.N. aisA yadi svaya.nko pahachAne to usakA svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. pahale to usakA ek a.nsh pragaT hotA hai, usakI svAnubhUti hotI hai. nirvikalpa dashA AtmAkA Ananda pragaT hotA hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn kare aur vikalpa TUTakar a.ntarame.n yadi jAy, usame.n tanmay ho, usakA j~nAn kare, usame.n lInatA kare to usakA Ananda pragaT hotA hai, svAnubhUti hotI hai. aisA karate-karate, baDhate-baDhate vah jaisA hai vaisA kevalaj~nAn svabhAv pragaT hotA hai.
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parantu pratham vah siddha bhagavAn jaisA hai, aisA nirNay kare-nakkI kare. mAtra vikalpase nakkI kare vah to shurUAtame.n pahale buddhise nakkI kare. parantu andar jo usakA svabhAv hai, us svabhAvake mUlame.n jAkar nakkI kare to vah pragaT hotA hai. AtmA to svabhAvase bhagavAn jaisA hI hai. bhagavAn hI hai. bhagavAn jaisA hI usakA svabhAv hai. shaktise hai. bhagavAnane pragaT huA aur ise shaktime.n hai. vaise yah prayatna kare to vah pragaT ho aisA hai. usame.n jo svabhAv ho vah usame.nse pragaT hotA hai, nahI.n ho vah kahA.Nse pragaT ho? usake mUlame.n hai to pragaT hotA hai.
jaise vR^ikShakA jaisA bIj hai, usake bIjame.n hai to use pAnIkA sI.nchan karanese usakA vR^ikSha panapatA hai. vaise usake mUlame.n-chaitanyake mUl svabhAvame.n hI hai. svabhAvame.nse svabhAv AtA hai. vibhAvame.nse-rAgame.nse vItarAgatA nahI.n AtI, vItarAg svabhAv hai usame.nse pragaT hotI hai. ataH usake svabhAvakA nAsh nahI.n huA hai. ananta janma-maraN hue, ek bhavase dUsarA bhav, usake pariNAm anusAr hote rahate hai.n. narka, svarga, tirya.nch usake vibhAvabhAvake kAraN hote hai.n. parantu svabhAvako pahachAne to bhavakA nAsh hotA hai. ananta kAlase usane bAhya kriyA bahut kI, parantu shubhabhAv kiye, puNyabandha huA, devalokame.n gayA parantu AtmAko pahichAnA nahI.n. shubhabhAvase puNyabandha huA, devalokame.n gayA, parantu shubh vikalpase bhI AtmA bhinna hai, usakA svabhAv yadi pahichAne, usakA bhedaj~nAn kare, usakI svAnubhUti kare to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai, to AtmAkA Ananda pragaT ho. shubhabhAv bIchame.n Aye, parantu apanA nij svabhAv to vikalpa rahit nirvikalpa svabhAv hai. pahale usakI shraddhA ho, phir usame.n lInatA kare to pragaT hotA hai.