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samAdhAnaH- .. AtmA hai aisA andar lage to puruShArtha ho. usakI mahimA lage to. usakA svabhAv pahichAnanekA prayatna karanA. chAro.n pahalUse samajhAyA hai, kahI.n kisIko bhUl rahe aisA nahI.n hai. lagan lagAne jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- .. sahaj shurU ho jAtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- ruchi baDhe, usakA puruShArtha kare, pahachAnanekA prayatna kare to hotA hai. ruchi baDhe to prayatna ho. a.ntarame.n aisA laganA chAhiye ki koI apUrva vastu hai. ye sab apUrva nahI.n hai. ye to ananta kAlase bahut bAr milA hai. ek AtmA nahI.n prApta nahI.n huA. AtmA apUrva hai, aisI apUrvatA lage to prayatna ho.

gurudev apUrvatA batAte the. unakI vANIme.n AtmA koI apUrva hai aisA hI AtA thA. usakA bhedaj~nAn karake AtmAko bhinna pahachAn lenA. AtmA shAshvat hai. janma-maraN kare to bhI AtmA to svaya.n shAshvat hai. deh nahI.n hai, AtmAko janma-maraN kuCh nahI.n hai. AtmA vibhAvase bhI bhinna hai. janma-maraN kahA.N AtmAko hai? AtmA Anandase bharA hai, j~nAyak svarUp hai.

mumukShuH- ChaThThI gAthAme.n jo j~nAyakadev kahA. j~nAyakadevako prApta karaneke liye hame.n kyA karanA?

samAdhAnaH- usakI bhAvanA karanI, usakI lagan karanI, usakI mahimA karanI. usako pahachAnanekA, svabhAv grahaN karanekA prayatna karanA. AtmA praj~nAse grahaN karanA, praj~nAse bhinna karanA. praj~nAse karake a.ntarame.n lInatA karanI, vahI gurudevane mArga batAyA hai. AtmAme.n ekAgratA karanI. vah na ho to tab tak usakI lagan, usakI mahimA, usakA abhyAs, bAra.nbAr chi.ntavan, manan, shAstrakA chi.ntavan karanA, manan karanA vah karanA.

AtmA to shAshvat Anandase bharA hai. usakA vichAr karanA. gurudevane koI apUrva aur adbhut mArga batAyA hai aur AtmA adbhut svarUp hai. bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs karanA. sAr vastu AtmA hI hai. bAkI sab jagatame.n prApta ho gayA hai, ek AtmA apUrva hai, vah nahI.n milA hai. usakA prayatna karanA. aur aise guru mile apUrva mArga batAnevAle, isaliye apUrva AtmAko grahaN karanekA prayatna karanA.

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mumukShuH- .. phirase vahI.n pahu.Nch jAte hai.n. usakA koI mArga batAIye.

samAdhAnaH- badal denA, bAra.nbAr badal denA. bAra.nbAr upayog palaTakar gurudevane jo kahA hai, usIkA manan, usIkA chi.ntavan, vahI karanA. AtmA apane svabhAvase shAshvat rahanevAlA, usakA svabhAv shAshvat dhruv, usakA utpAd-vyay sab usame.n hai. dUsare paradravyake paradravyame.n hai.n. usase bhinna-nyArA hai. use pahachAn lenA. sa.nyog parase dR^iShTi uThAkar a.ntarame.n dR^iShTi karanA. a.ntarako dekhanekI a.ntarachakShuko pragaT karanA. bAhya chakShuse nahI.n dikhegA.

mumukShuH- .. vyaktiko vah karanA chAhiye, aisA mai.n mAnatA hU.N. parantu andarame.nse sthir nahI.n huA jAtA. Ap koI rAstA batAye.nge?

samAdhAnaH- AtmAko grahaN karake a.ntarame.n.. gaharI guphA yAnI chaitanyatattvako pahichAna. usakA svabhAv pahachAnakar andar lInatA kare to jA sakatA hai. puruShArthakI mandatA ho to jA nahI.n sakatA. puruShArthakI ugratA ho to jA sakatA hai. AtmAko pIChAnanA ki AtmA kaun?

pahale bhedaj~nAn kare ki ye sharIr bhinna aur AtmA bhinna. vibhAvasvabhAv apanA nahI.n hai. aise bhedaj~nAn kare. chaitanyatattvako pahale nyArA-bhinna pahachAne ki mai.n chaitanyatattva bhinna hU.N. mai.n j~nAyak svabhAv, Ananda svabhAvase bharA huA ek tattva hU.N. us tattvako barAbar a.ntarame.nse grahaN karake phir usame.n lInatA kare to usame.n jA sakatA hai. pahale amuk prakArase jA sakatA hai, kyo.nki amuk prakArakI pahale ekatvabuddhi TUTatI hai. bhedaj~nAn hotA hai ki mai.n bhinna hU.N aur yah vibhAvasvabhAv bhinna hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn karake usame.n ekAgratA kare, dhyAn kare to usame.n use shAnti aur Ananda prApta hotA hai. parantu jab tak amuk prakArase asthiratA ho to vah bAhar AtA hai. parantu bAra.nbAr-bAra.nbAr usame.n jAnekA abhyAs kare to jA sakatA hai. puruShArtha kare.

pahale AtmAkA astitva grahaN kare. to usame.n sthir ho. astitva grahaN kiye binA sthir kahA.N hogA? isaliye pahale apanA astitva grahaN kare ki mai.n yah chaitanya j~nAyakatattva so mai.n hU.N. is prakAr usakA astitva barAbar grahaN ho to usame.n sthiratA ho, to usame.n dhyAn ho.

mumukShuH- dUsarI ek bAt yah hai ki darshan, j~nAn, chAritra ye tIn vastu mokShakA mArga hai. darshan aur j~nAna. to vA.nchan, satsamAgam aur us prakArase AtmAko prApta kar sakate hai.n. bAhya rItase arthAt mai.n aisA kahatA hU.N ki Agamake vA.nchanase, shAstro.nke vA.nchanase aur satpuruSho.nke samAgamase vah ho sakatA hai. aur chAritra hai.. apane yahA.N mujhe aisA lagA hai ki chAritra par kam vajan diyA jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- yathArtha samyagdarshan aur j~nAn prApta nahI.n huA hai. chAritra yAnI bAharakI

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mAtra kriyAe.N bahut bAr kI hai. kriyA karI, sab tyAg kiyA, ChoD diyA aisA jIvane anek bAr kiyA. aur muni banakar ja.ngalame.n rahA. parantu yadi AtmAkA j~nAn nahI.n huA hai to aisI kriyA karake, shubhabhAv karake devalok prApta huA, bahut milA parantu bhavakA abhAv nahI.n huA.

ataH gurudevane aisA mArga batAte the ki tU yathArtha apUrva AtmA hai, use pahachAna. usako pahachAnakar andar jo chAritra pragaT hogA vah yathArtha a.ntarame.nse hogA. bAhya kriyA aur bAhya chAritra tUne ananta bAr kiyA hai. aur karake nau.nvI graiveyak gayA hai, devalokame.n. parantu bhavakA abhAv yA AtmAkI prApti, samyagdarshan prApta nahI.n huA. isaliye tU AtmAko pIChAna. a.ntarame.n samyagdarshan aur j~nAn bhI bAharase nahI.n AtA hai. usake samajhaneke liye dev-guru-shAstrakA sAnnidhya hote hai.n, usake nimitta hote hai.n, parantu karanA to svaya.nko paDatA hai. mAtra bAharakA j~nAn vah koI j~nAn nahI.n hai, vah to visheSh jAnaneke liye, shAstraj~nAn AtmAko pIChAnaneke liye bIchame.n vah shAstraj~nAn hotA hai.

nishchay to a.ntarame.n AtmAko pahachAne, a.ntarame.n AtmAko bhinna karake samyagdarshan (pragaT kare). mai.n yah chaitanya hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, aise svaya.n bhedaj~nAn kare, usakA j~nAn kare. a.ntarame.n AtmAko pahachAne vah j~nAn aur AtmAkI svAnubhUti ho vah darshana. aise darshan aur j~nAn ananta kAlame.n prApta nahI.n hue. isaliye usakI mukhyatA rakhakar darshan, j~nAn a.ntarame.nse kaise prApta ho, vah yadi a.ntarame.nse prApta ho vah apUrva vastu hai, to usame.n chAritra yathArtha AtA hai. aur vah chAritra use a.ntarame.n sahaj puruShArthase aise prApta hotA hai ki a.ntarame.n svAnubhUti aisI prApta ho ki kShaN-kShaName.n a.ntarame.n chalA jAy, bAhar rukanA bhI use mushkil ho jAya. phir use gR^ihasthAshram bhI suhAtA nahI.n, isaliye vah muni banakar chalA jAtA hai. is prakAr a.ntarame.n svAnubhUtime.n bAra.nbAr jhulate-jhulate aisI chAritradashA prApta hotI hai. aur vahI vAstavik chAritra hai.

vartamAname.n jo bAte.n karate hai.n, AtmA koI apUrva hai, usakI prApti kaise ho usakI bAte.n chalatI hai. kyo.nki chAritradashA bAharase kriyAkA tyAg to anek bAr huA hai. parantu a.ntarame.n jo apUrvatA AtmAkI laganI chAhiye vah lagI nahI.n. isaliye darshan, j~nAnako mukhyatA kI, usakA kAraN yah hai ki usase bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. phikShar chAritra jo AtA hai vah yathArtha chAritra AtA hai. mAtra bAharakA chAritra ananta kAlame.n bahut bAr kiyA hai.

aur ye jo darshan aur j~nAn hai, usake sAth amuk jAtakA chAritra svarUpAcharaN to AtA hai. jise a.ntarame.n AtmA ruche use bAharakA ruchatA nahI.n. use a.ntarame.nse virakti A jAtI hai. bAharakA sab kArya kare to usakA maryAdit hotA hai. usake kaShAy Adi

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sab bAharakA maryAdit ho jAtA hai. vah ekatvabuddhi tanyamatAse vah nahI.n karatA hai, usakA ras, ruchi TUT jAtA hai. use AtmAkI hI ruchi lagatI hai ki ye kuChakarane jaisA nahI.n hai. use upAdey nahI.n lagatA hai. AtmAko hI a.ngIkAr karanA, aisI usakI a.ntarakI ruchi badal jAtI hai.

isaliye pahale mukhya samyagdarshan AtmAkI svAnubhUti ho to usame.n yathArtha chAritra AtA hai. aur vah chAritra, sachchA munipanA aur sachchA kevalaj~nAn usame.nse pragaT hotA hai. bAhya kriyA to bahut bAr kI hai. ananta kAlame.n aise veSh dhAraN kar liyA. abhI dekho to tyAg lekar bahut log nIkal paDate hai.n. parantu a.ntarame.n AtmAko pahachAne binA mAtra bAhya kriyA, mAtra shAstrase bole. abhI jo bolate hai.n, AtmA kaise prApta ho? usakI sab bAte.n chalatI hai.n. aur shAstrakI vah bAte.n karatA hai. a.ntarame.n karanA (hai). kyo.nki samyagdarshan prApta karanA vah bhI durlabh hai. isaliye usakA puruShArtha karaneke liye usakI bhAvanA, usakA puruShArtha, usakI lagan aur a.ntarame.n sab use niHsAr lage. sArabhUt AtmA hai. ruchi palaT jAtI hai.

a.ntarame.nse use tyAg ho jAtA hai. a.ntarakA tyAga. phir bAharakA tyAg Ate-Ate vah to usakA jaisA puruShArtha ho, vaisA ho. samyagdarshan jise prApta ho, usame.n kisIko turanta chAritra A jAy, kisIko der lage. koI chakravartI gR^ihasthAshramame.n ho use bAharase chAritra na ho to chAritra Aneme.n der lage. parantu a.ntarame.nse bhinna hI hote hai.n. phir chAritra Aye tab ChoDakar chale jAte hai.n. a.ntarame.nse svAnubhUtikI dashA aisI prApta ho jAy ki sab ChUT jAtA hai. aisA hotA hai. aur vah sachchA munipanA hai.

aisA to chakravartI ChoDakar chale jAte hai.n, tIrtha.nkar ChoDakar chale jAte hai.n. parantu vah a.ntarakA chAritra AtA hai ki jisase bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. bAhya tyAgase to kyA? aise shubhabhAv to bahut bAr kiyA hai aur puNyabandha huA aur devalokame.n gayA. usase bhavakA abhAv nahI.n hotA. isaliye gurudevane mukhya mArga batAyA hai ki bhavakA abhAv kaise ho?

mumukShuH- bahinashrI! gurudev, Ap kadAchit Ap do hI vyakti aisI hai.n ki jinho.nne kuCh siddhi kI hai. to vartamAname.n jitane bhI log is viShayako mAnate hai.n, usame.nse dUsare logo.nko asar honI chAhiye. loheme.nse pArasamaNi honA chAhiye. us dR^iShTise apane vichAr kare to abhI jo asar huyI hai, us viShayame.n Apake kyA vichAr hai.n? isakI asar, vichAraNA,... dharma hai vah vichAraNA hai, aur yah vichAraNA jo mahArAj sAhabane kI hai, usakI asar andar Utarakar samAjame.n dekhe.n to koI khAs visheSh huyI ho aisA Apako lagatA hai? kyo.nki... milate ho.nge.

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samAdhAnaH- gurudev to mArga batAye. jo sAdhanA karate hai.n vah mArga batAte hai.n. usame.n jisakI jitanI yogyatA ho us anusAr asar hotI hai. dUsarA koI tIre yA na tIre, sachchA mArga... gurudev jaise jAge ve mArga batAye. dUsaro.nko asar honI, vah usakI yogyatA AdhArit hai. bahut jIv aise hai.n, jisakI ruchi to palaT jAtI hai. jo ruchi palaT jAtI hai, jo mAnyatA palaT jAtI hai, akelI kriyAme.n dharma mAnate the, usame.nse dharma koI alag hai, aisI ruchi to bahut logo.nkI palaT jAtI hai. bAkI AcharaN kaisA ho, vah (yogyatA par nirbhar karatA hai). parantu a.ntar ruchi palaT jAy aise to bahut jIv hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- ye jo jainIjham hai, usame.n itanI tarahake hai.n, ki ham jo yuvA varga hai, hame.n bahut bAr samajhame.n nahI.n AtA hai. kyo.nki itane gUT ho gaye hai.n ki ham yuvA vargako samajhame.n nahI.n AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- (jainadarshan) bhinna-bhinna nahI.n hai, gUT ho to bhI. bAharake gUTako ek or rakh do. a.ntarame.n bhedaj~nAn karake AtmAko pahachAnanA vah ek hI mArga hai. gurudevane vah kahA hai aur shAstrame.n vah AtA hai. andarame.n svAnubhUti karake AtmAko bhinna jAnanA, bhedaj~nAn karake usame.n lInatA karanI, usame.n pratIt karanI vahI muktikA mArga hai. dUsarA koI muktikA mArga nahI.n hai. usame.n bIchame.n sachche dev-guru-shAstra shubh pariNAmame.n hote hai.n. andar shuddhAtmA-AtmAko bhinna pIChAnanA. usakI pratIt, usakI lInatA, usakI svAnubhUti kaise ho, usakA prayatna karanA, vah ek hI mArga hai, dUsarA koI mArga nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- lekin jainijhamame.n kyo.n sab ek nahI.n sakate? kyo.nki jab tak ham ek nahI.n ho.nge, tab tak ek prakArase sosAyaTIme.n asar to hotI hI hai na. ham sosoyaTIke taur par, ham sab baniye kahalAye.n, jain kahalAye.n, jaino.nkA ek pa.nth ho jAy to hamAre deshako phAyadA hogA. .. usame.n to koI sha.nkA hai hI nahI.n. parantu sAth-sAth sosAyaTIme.n jo log rahate hai.n, unakA kuCh phAyadA honA chAhiye na. ham log hI jainame.n gUT banAye.nge aur kahe.nge ki...

samAdhAnaH- .. svaya.n apanA kar sakatA hai. bAharakA honA, nahI.n honA vah (apane hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai). pratyek dravya svata.ntra hai.n. koI dravyako badalanA apane hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. baDe mahApuruSh ho.n, ve bhI upadesh dekar chale jAte hai.n. kisIko badalanA apane hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai.

gurudevane sabako upadesh diyA. unake upadeshakA aisA nimitta ki kitano.nkA upAdAn badal gayA. dUsareko koI badal sake, vah kisIke hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. pratyek dravya svata.ntra hai.n. koI samAjako ham badal sake, vah koI hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. vah to

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svata.ntra hai. kaise badalanA vah koI dravya kisIko kuCh kar nahI.n sakatA. mAtra svaya.n bhAv kare. use upadesh dekar ChUT jAy, bAkI use badal sake, kisIkA nahI.n kar sakatA. svaya.n apanA kar sakatA hai. mahA tIrtha.nkar ho gaye, ve upadesh dete hai.n. bAkI pratyek dravya svata.ntrarUpase badalate hai.n. kisIko badal nahI.n sakate. kuCh bAharakA karanA vah kisIke hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- .. ashuddha hai, aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. anAdise yAnI usakI shurUAt nahI.n hai, tabase vah ashuddha hai. .. koI kAlame.n, kisI paristhitime.n vah ashuddha huyI aur vah ashuddha ho gayA hai, use apane prayatna kare...

samAdhAnaH- anAdise ashuddha hai. dravya shuddha hai, parantu paryAyame.n ashuddhatA hai. yadi shuddha ho aur bAdame.n ashuddha ho, aisA nahI.n hotA. jo shuddha vastu ho vah ashuddha kaise ho? dravyase shuddha hai, parantu paryAyame.n ashuddhatA hai. yadi shuddha ho aur bAdame.n ashuddha ho to phir shuddha hokar ashuddha ban jAy, aise hI shuddha aur ashuddha chalatA rahe.? mukti honeke bAd kabhI ashuddha hotA hI nahI.n. anAdikA ashuddha. jaise suvarNa, anAdi kAlase jaise suvarNa aur pAShAN dono.n khAname.n ikaTThe hote hai.n. bAdame.n use tAp denese bhinna paD jAte hai.n.

aise jIv dravyase shuddha hai, parantu paryAyame.n jo ashuddhatA hai vah anAdise hai. parantu usakA puruShArtha karanese AtmAkI shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai. pudagal vastu bhI vaise suvarNa aur pAShAN ikaTThe hote hai.n to use tAp dete-dete bhinna ho jAte hai.n.

vaise AtmA aur karma anAdise sAthame.n hai.n. usame.n jIvako paryAyame.n ashuddhatA huyI hai. parantu puruShArthakA tAp denese vah shuddha paryAyarUp (pariNamatA hai). phir shuddha suvarNa ban jAy phir kabhI pAShAName.n mishrit nahI.n ho jAtA. shuddha ho jAneke bAd, mukta honeke bAd punaH sa.nsAr nahI.n hotA.

makkhan Upar jAy, phir usakA ghI bane to phirase ghIkA makkhan nahI.n banatA. vaise suvarNa aur pAShAN ekasAth hai, vaise jIv aur karma anAdise sAthame.n hI hai.n aur jIvakI paryAyame.n ashuddhatA hai. dravya-vastu, mUl vastume.n ashuddhatAkA pravesh nahI.n huA hai. to-to shuddha hove hI nahI.n. dravya mUlame.n ashuddhatA nahI.n hai, parantu paryAyame.n-usakI avasthAme.n ashuddhatA hai.

mumukShuH- aur vah anAdise hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, anAdise hai.

mumukShuH- anAdise ho to phir paryAy bhI...

samAdhAnaH- (paryAyame.n) ashuddhatA hai, vastume.n nahI.n hai. paryAy hai isaliye palaT sakatI

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hai, badal sakatI hai. suvarNa jo ashuddha hai, lekin use tAp deenese suvarNa shuddha hotA hai. vaise puruShArtha karanese AtmAme.n shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShuH- isaliye dUsare dharmase yah ek alag bAt hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, alag bAt hai.

mumukShuH- ki AtmA hI, ved dharma ginatA hai ki AtmA hI hai aur anAdi hai, ananta hai, aisA ginate hai.n. parantu paryAy...

samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha karake svAnubhUti pragaT ho aur kevalaj~nAn ho, bAdame.n ashuddhatA hotI hI nahI.n. aisA vastukA svabhAv hI hai.