Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 193.

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mumukShuH- ... svAdhyAyame.n bhI bAr-bAr sunate hai.n ki ... j~nAtA-dR^iShTApanA rakhanA chAhiye. to j~nAtA-dR^iShTApanA kaise rakhanA?

samAdhAnaH- svAdhyAyame.n na? j~nAtA-dR^iShTA to andar j~nAyakakI pariNati pragaT huyI ho to j~nAtA-dR^iShTApanA rahatA hai. jise j~nAyakapanA pragaT nahI.n huA hai, use j~nAtApan rahanA mushkil hai. j~nAyakako pahachAne, bhedaj~nAn kare aur esI j~nAtAkI bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati pragaT huyI ho to use pratyek shubhabhAvake koI bhI vikalpa ho, shubhAshubh pratyek bhAvame.n use j~nAtApan sahajarUpase rahatA hai. shubhake vikalpa ho to bhI j~nAtA rahatA hai. shubhAshubh pratyek bhAvame.n, sarva vikalpame.n use j~nAtApanA, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho gayI, Uchchase Uchcha shubhabhAv ho to bhI use bhedaj~nAn sahajapane, usakI puruShArthakI gati kShaN-kShaName.n mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N aise sahajapane j~nAtAke astitvame.n usakI pariNati us or rahatI hI hai. koI bhI vikalpa Aye use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA chalatI hai. use shrutakA chi.ntavan ho, shAstrakA abhyAs ho to bhI use j~nAtApanA sahaj rahatA hai.

lekin jise ekatvabuddhi hai, jij~nAsukI bhUmikA hai, use j~nAtApanA rahe aisA hotA nahI.n. use to mAtra bhAvanA rahatI hai ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aise. bhAvanA karanI rahatI hai, vah pariNati pragaT karanI rahatI hai.

parantu jise j~nAyakakI dashA pragaT huyI hai, svAnubhUtikI dashA pragaT huyI hai, vah phir savikalpame.n Aye tab use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA rahatI hai. chAhe jaise shubhake vikalpa ho to bhI use bhedaj~nAnakI (chAlU rahatA hai). bhagavAnakA darshan kare, pUjA kare, shAstra abhyAs kare, kuCh bhI kare to bhI use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA chAlU hI rahatI hai. shubhabhAvame.n use ekatvabuddhi nahI.n hotI. use bAharase bhagavAnakI bahut bhakti dikhe, shrutakA chi.ntavan bahut dikhe to bhI use ekatvabuddhi nahI.n hotI, use j~nAyakakI dhArA bhinna hI rahatI hai. use amuk prakArakA ras dikhe, lekin ekatvabuddhi nahI.n hai. use sthiti alpa paDatI hai, ras bahut paDatA hai, parantu use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA hai, use sthiti la.nbI nahI.n paDatI. vah bhinna rahatA hai, nyArA hI rahatA hai. sahaj dashA bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- utanA hI satya AtmA hai, jitanA yah j~nAn hai.


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samAdhAnaH- vah bAt AyI.

mumukShuH- j~nAnase jyAdA leneme.n mukhya hetu koI hai?

samAdhAnaH- pahale apanI or muDatA hai. utanA nishchay kar ki jitanA yah j~nAn hai. nishchay karaneme.n to bIchame.n j~nAn AtA hai na. mukhya to dR^iShTi hai. anAdiananta AtmA hai us par tU dR^iShTi kara. parantu dR^iShTike sAth j~nAn to hotA hI hai. jij~nAsAkI bhUmikAse Age baDhanA ho to itanA nishchay kara. nishchayake sAth dR^iShTi hotI hai. dR^iShTi pragaT nahI.n huyI hai, nishchay to pahale karanA hotA hai ki jitanA yah j~nAn hai, utanA tU hai. itanA jo j~nAn dikhatA hai vah j~nAyak hai. use tU grahaN kar, usame.n ruchi kar, usame.n sa.ntuShTa ho. kahanekI shailIme.n, Age baDhanekI shailIme.n use vichAro.nme.n to sab j~nAn AtA hai. dR^iShTi to us par sthir karanI. dR^iShTikA viShay to ek abhed hai.

dR^iShTi to mukhya hai, aisA kahakar yah kahanA hai ki tU dR^iShTi AtmA par kara. AtmA aisA hai aur vahI grahaN karane jaisA hai. use tU grahaN kara. vah anAdiananta AtmA, use abhedarUpase ek chaitanya AtmA vahI mai.n hU.N, us par dR^iShTi sthApit kara. dR^iShTi pragaT karanekI dR^iShTi hai. parantu use nishchay karaneme.n to bIchame.n j~nAn AtA hai.

mumukShuH- jitanA yah j~nAn hai utanA hI AtmA hai.

samAdhAnaH- guN aur guNI abhed hai. jo yah j~nAn dikhatA hai-j~nAnalakShaN utanA AtmA hai. j~nAnake alAvA jo bhI hai vah sab vibhAv, sab par hai. ek j~nAnalakShaN jo dikhatA hai, j~nAnalakShaNase pahachAn le. vah jo lakShaN dikhatA hai vah j~nAnalakShaN hai utanA hI AtmA hai. utanA hI guNI hai. lakShaN aur lakShya dono.n ek hI hai, use tU grahaN kara. pUrA j~nAyak grahaN kar le.

mumukShuH- grahaN karavAnekA vahA.N hetu hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, grahaN karavAnekA hetu hai. jitanA yah j~nAn hai utanA AtmA hai. jitanA j~nAnasvabhAv jisake lakShyame.n Aye, j~nAnasvabhAv lakShaN hai vah AtmA hai. bAkI sab jo dikhe vah sab vibhAv hai. ek j~nAnalakShaN AtmAko pahachAn le arthAt ek j~nAyakako pahachAn le. us par dR^iShTi kara. guN aur guNI abhed hai. us par dR^iShTi sthApit kara.

usame.n tR^ipta ho, usame.n ruchi kar, usIme.n sarvasva hai. bAkI bAhar kuCh nahI.n hai. aur us par tU dR^iShTi sthApit karake usakA j~nAn kara. usIme.n sa.ntuShTa hogA, tR^ipti hogI, sab usIme.n hai. apUrva sukh usame.n pragaT hogA. sab j~nAnasvarUp AtmAme.n hI sab bharA hai. j~nAyakame.n hI sab bharA hai. aisA ho ki akele j~nAname.n kyA hai? parantu akele j~nAname.n ananta bharA hai. jitanA yah j~nAn hai, vah AtmA hai, use grahaN kara.


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mumukShuH- bahut bhed na paDe, parantu abhed hI mukhya hai na?

samAdhAnaH- grahaN abhedako karanekA hai. grahaN to ek AtmAko (karanA hai). bhed parase dR^iShTi uThA le. grahaN kare ek abhedako. parantu usakA j~nAn bIchame.n A jAtA hai. bhed par dR^iShTi nahI.n rakhanI hai. dR^iShTi ek abhed par kara. bAkI sabakA j~nAn kara. dR^iShTi ek abhed par kara. dR^iShTi usame.n sthApit kI isaliye usame.nse shuddha paryAy pragaT hogI, svaya.n pragaT hogI. pahale tU yathArtha nishchay kar ki yah j~nAnasvarUp AtmA hai vahI mai.n hU.N. aise nishchay kar usakA aur yathArtha dR^iShTi pragaT kara. dR^iShTi mukhya hai, parantu j~nAn sAthame.n AtA hai. bhed parase dR^iShTi uThA le, dR^iShTi ek AtmA par kara.

mumukShuH- .. usake pahale j~nAnase AtmAke svarUpako bhedapUrvak vichAratA hai ki mai.n aisA j~nAn sAmarthyakA piNDa hU.N, aise sukh sAmarthyakA piNDa hU.N, aisI prabhutA .. hU.N.

samAdhAnaH- usake vichArame.n aisA nishchay bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. nishchay kiye binA... vah bIchame.n AtA hai. bhedake vichAr (Ate hai.n), parantu dR^iShTi ek abhed par karanI hai. dR^iShTi abhed par gayI aur usame.n lIn huA to vikalpa ChUT jAtA hai. to usame.nse use svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. parantu pahale vah nishchay kare tab bhedake vikalpa Ate hai.n.

mumukShuH- .. bhedake grahaNapUrvak hI use yathArtha nishchay hotA hai aur phir bhedako ChoDakar abhedako grahaN karatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- abhedako grahaN karatA hai. (bIchame.n) vyavahAr Aye binA rahatA nahI.n. vikalpa dvArA nakkI karake phir mati-shrutakI buddhio.nko sameTakar svaya.n nirvikalpa hotA hai. aisA gAthAme.n AtA hai, usakI TIkAme.n. .. hai use thoDA-thoDA javAb detI hU.N. us prashnake javAb lagabhag kaiseTome.n vahI Aye hai.n. vahI hotA hai. kaise karanA? kyA karanA? vahI prashna bahubhAg sabake hote hai.n.

.. bahut sunanekA hai. binA pUChe kitane hI UtArakar le gaye haiai.n. mujhe to mAlUm nahI.n hai, kaun UtArakar le gayA hai. pIChese bolU.N use UtArA hai. pahale mai.n vA.nchan karatI thI, usakI to mai.n spaShTa nA kahatI thI. kisIne UtArA nahI.n hai. bahut samay bAd UtArA to aise Dhakakar UtArA. abhI bhI sabhI bahano.nko UtAranekI nA hI kahatI hU.N. sab bahane.n nahI.n UtAratI hai. sab bahane.n nahI.n UtAratI. yahA.N koI lekar baiThA hotA hai. bAkI sab bahane.n nahI.n UtAratI hai. sabake pAs nahI.n hai.

... akelI baiThI hoU.N tab dhUname.n kuCh bolanA hotA hai. shAstrake arthame.n kuCh dhUname.n hI dhUname.n us din bolatI thI. vikalpa tum bhAg jAo aisA saba. ab sab jAIye, aisA sab bolatI thI. shAstrake sAth koI mel nahI.n ho, aisA kuCh bolatI hU.N.


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mumukShuH- vahI shAstra hai, usase Uchcha shAstra kaun-sA hogA? mastIkI to sabase jyAdA kImat hai na.

samAdhAnaH- tan-man-dhana. gurudevake charaName.n man-vikalpako ChoD diye. gurudevake charaName.n ab tumhArA yahA.N sthAn nahI.n hai, mai.n to j~nAyak hU.N. vikalpa gurudevake charaName.n rakh diye. ab chale jAo. guruke charaName.n.. usakA artha koI pUChe ki gurudevake charaName.n vikalpa, vah kyA? vah to bhAvame.n hI bolanA hotA hai. gurudevako kahA.N vikalpa chAhiye? aur kisIko kahA.N chAhiye?

mumukShuH- shabdo.nke artha karane jAy to takarAr ho jAya.

samAdhAnaH- aisA hI hai. j~nAyakame.n vikalpa nahI.n hai. mere hR^idayame.n ek j~nAyak hai. vikalpa ab chale jAo, mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. vikalpako khaDe rahanekA sthAn nahI.n rahatA hai. yA j~nAyak yA guru. mere hR^idayame.n guru hai.n. dUsarA koI sthAn nahI.n hai. tum ab chale jAo. tan to gurudevake charaName.n, man kaise? vikalpa jAo, ab mere gurudevake charaNo.nme.n jAo, aisA sab bolatI thI. aisA ho ki yah sab UtArakar usakA artha kyA karanA? aisA ho jAtA hai koI bAra.

mumukShuH- apane kahA.N artha karake samajh lenA hai?

samAdhAnaH- chale gaye. ... sab ThIk karake denA paDe na. sab bhinna-bhinna ho use ekaTThA karake denA paDe.

mumukShuH- achChA AtA hai.

mumukShuH- kis prakAr..

samAdhAnaH- shuddhAtmA, aisA hai na?

mumukShuH- shirShak aisA hai.

samAdhAnaH- dhruv anAdiananta hai. dhruv hai vah to shuddha hI hai, shuddhAtmA shuddha hai. bAkI shabdo.nkA mel to shAstra... pravachanasArame.n bahut jagah j~nAn apekShAse kahate hai.n, koI jagah dR^iShTi apekShAse kahate hai.n. dR^iShTi aur j~nAname.n sAthame.n hote hai.n. vahA.N do dravyako bhinna kiyA aur yahA.N dR^iShTi aur j~nAn sAthame.n rakhe. svadharmase ekatva svaya.nse aur parase bhinna hai-vibhakta. paradharmase bhinna aur svadharmame.n ekatva. apaneme.n ek hai isaliye shuddha hai. isaliye vah upalabdha karane yogya hai. vah dhruv hai. isaliye dR^iShTi to tU aisI kara. aur parase bhinna isaliye usame.n j~nAn sAthame.n AyA, dR^iShTi sAthame.n AtI hai. isaliye dR^iShTi aur j~nAn sAthame.n rakhate hai.n.

AchAryadev bahut jagah dR^iShTi mukhya karake j~nAnako sAthame.n.n rakhate hai.n. aur j~nAnakA viShay ho to yahA.N dR^iShTi aur j~nAn dono.n sAthame.n rakhe. isaliye aisA lage ki yah dR^iShTi


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hai yA j~nAn hai? koI jagah dR^iShTi aur j~nAn dono.nkI sAthame.n bAt karate hai.n. dhruvatvake kAraN vah upalabdha karane yogya hai. vah ek hai, parase bhinna hai. paradharmase bhinna aur svadharmase ekatva hai. yah vibhAv hai, usase tU bhinna kara. svadharmame.n ek hai, apaneme.n ek hai, dhruv hai, aisA kahakar yahA.N dR^iShTi sAbit karate hai.n ki tU apanI or dekha. aur parase bhinna hotA hai isaliye usame.n j~nAn bhI sAthame.n A jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- dono.n bAt..

samAdhAnaH- dono.n bAt ekame.n A jAtI hai. tU dR^iShTi yathArtha kar, usake sAth j~nAn bhI sAthame.n A jAtA hai. parase bhinna aur svame.n tU ekatva hai. apaneme.n ekatva sAbit karatA hai. tU dR^iShTiko mukhya kara. j~nAn sAthame.n rakhatA hai. .. j~nAnako gauN karate hai.n aur yahA.N pravachanasArame.n bahut jagah dR^iShTi-j~nAn sAthame.n hote hai.n. aisA hai. kamar kasI hai, aisA sab AtA hai. usI gAthAme.n kahI.n par AtA hai. pravachanasAramee.n Age A gayA hai. 80vI.n gAthAme.n aisA AyA ki yah dravya hai, guN hai, paryAy hai. aisA manase nakkI karake phir svaya.nme.n sa.nkShep karake vikalpako toD de. kartA-karmakA vibhAg vilay ho jAtA hai aur svaya.n apaneme.n ekatva ho jAy, nirvikalpa ho jAya. usame.n aise liyA hai. usame.n dR^iShTi aur j~nAn dono.n sAthame.n le liyA ki aisI dR^iShTi kara. phir j~nAnase nakkI karatA hai. vikalpa toDakar apaneme.n lIn ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- ek hI gAthAme.n do bAt lI hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ek gAthAme.n do bAt lI hai.

mumukShuH- yathArtha nirNay hotA hai, anubhav pUrva yathArtha nirNay hotA hai aur us yathArtha nirNayame.n ek dhAraNArUp nirNay hotA hai aur ek bhAvabhAsanarUp nirNay hotA hai. savikalpa dashAkI bAt karatA hU.N. dhAraNArUp nirNayame.n to keval shAstrase, Agamase usane nakkI kiyA hotA hai ki AtmA aisA hai, AtmA aisA hai. aur bhAvabhAsanarUp nirNayame.n to a.ntar sanmukh jhukakar lakShaNase kuCh AbhAs hotA ho ki aisA j~nAnamay AtmA andarame.n hai aur vah mai.n hU.N. us nirNayakA phal, us nirNayake bAd Age baDhane par us nirNayakA abhAv hokar nirvikalpatA ho, vah barAbar hai?

samAdhAnaH- bhAvabhAsanakA nirNay yathArtha ho to us nirNayakI visheSh dR^iDhatA vah pariNatirUp ho to nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai. sahajarUpase ho to nirvikalpa dashA ho.

mumukShuH- pariNatirUp honeme.n to keval abhyAs hI mukhyarUpase (hotA hai)?

samAdhAnaH- bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs kare. usame.n jyAdA tadAkAr ho jAya. bhAvabhAsan hai use jyAdA dR^iDhatArUp karatA jAya. jyAdA dR^iDhatArUp karake us rUp pariNamatA jAy to vikalpa ChUTanekA prasa.ng Ave.


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mumukShuH- dhAraNArUp nirNayakI to kImat hI nahI.n hai. vah to keval shAstrase aur..

samAdhAnaH- shAstrase nirNay kiyA hai. muumukShuH- dhAraNA kar lI hai.

samAdhAnaH- dhAraNA kI hai. utanA ki kuCh jAnatA nahI.n thA, vah usane kuCh jAnA hai, utanA. bAkI a.ntar bhAvabhAsaname.n to alag hI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- bhAvabhAsaname.n shuddhAtmAkA svarUp jaisA hai vaisA AtA jAtA hai. phir bhI nirNay na ho aisA bhI banatA hogA? nirNay, vikalpAtmak nirNay na ho. bhAvabhAsaname.n svarUp khyAlame.n AtA ho, phir bhI nirNayarUp na ho sake.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvabhAsan ho to use nirNay to hotA hai. dono.nkA avinAbhAvI sambandha hai. bhAvabhAsaname.n Aye ki yah bhAv hai, to nirNay bhI sAthame.n hotA hai ki aise hI hai. nirNay na ho to bhAvabhAsaname.n usakI kachAs hai. .. isaliye to nirNayame.n dR^iDhatA nahI.n AtI hai.

mumukShuH- bhAvabhAsanarUp nirNay par hI pUrA vajan hai. mukhya to usako vahI puruShArtha (karanA hai).

samAdhAnaH- bhAvabhAsan ho to hI vah bhAvabhAsanase Age baDhatA hai. svAnubhUtikI jo savikalpa dashA hai vah to usakI sahaj dhArArUp hai. parantu usake pahale hai vah to usane bhAvabhAsanase nirNay kiyA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!