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mumukShuH- anubhUtike pahale kaise...?

samAdhAnaH- anubhUtike pahale to usakI us jAtakI lagan, us prakArakI chaTapaTI ho, lagan ho, j~nAyakako grahaN karane orakI usakI pariNati ho. yah j~nAyak hI hai, anya kuCh mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aisA j~nAyak orakA nishchay dR^iDh karanA chAhiye. bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati dR^iDh karanI chAhiye. ye sab mai.n nahI.n hU.N, mai.n to chaitanya hU.N. apanA svabhAv a.ntarame.nse grahaN honA chAhiye. svabhAvako grahaN kare, bAra.nbAr-bAra.nbAr chaitanyakI dhUn lage, chaitanyake alAvA kahI.n ruche nahI.n. ek chaitanyamay jIvan kaise ho jAy, aisI apanI dR^iDh pariNati us orakI honI chAhiye. chaitanyakI hI dhUn laganI chAhiye. jAgate-sote chaitanya-chaitanya orakI pariNati hI jAgR^it rahanI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- vibhAvakI or duHkh aur svabhAvakA grahaN, dono.n sAthame.n (hote hai.n). svabhAvako grahaN karanekA prayatna (honA chAhiye). svabhAvame.n hI sarvasva hai, aisA nishchaya. svabhAv grahaN karanekI usakI pratIti joradAr honI chAhiye aur vibhAvakI or duHkh lage, dono.n sAthame.n hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- sabhI AtmAo.nko isI prakArakI vidhi, vibhAv pariNatame.n duHkh lage aur svabhAv or muDe?

samAdhAnaH- svabhAv grahaN karanekI pariNati. nij svabhAv orakA nishchay aur vibhAvame.n duHkh lage. vibhAv to AkulatArUp hI hai, svaya.nko AkulatA lagatI nahI.n hai. usakA svarUp pahachAne ki ye to AkulatA hI hai. svabhAv hai vahI shAntirUp hai. aisA nishchay svaya.nko honA chAhiye. vibhAv or usakI pariNati Tik na sake, a.ntarakI or a.ntarame.n hI sukh hai. vibhAv hotA hai, parantu usakI ekatvabuddhiko toDatA jAtA hai, svabhAvakI or muDatA jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- atIndriy AnandakA svAd Ane pUrva use shubhabhAvarUp pariNatime.n use AkulatAkA vedan hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- shubhabhAvakI pariNati hotI to hai, parantu yah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai,

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aisA use nishchay hotA hai. use AkulatA to lagatI hai. ye sab merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. sabame.n AkulatA hai to AkulatA hI lagatI hai.

mumukShuH- yuktise AkulatAkA vedan lage yA vAstavame.n manda kaShAyame.n bhI AkulatAkA (vedan hotA hai)?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, yuktise grahaN kare lekin use vedaname.n bhI aisA lage ki yah AkulatA hai. usame.nse ChUT nahI.n sakatA hai, parantu use vedaname.n lage ki ye AkulatA hai.

mumukShuH- mandame.n manda kaShAy ho to bhI use us prakArakA vedan hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah AkulatA hai. .. kiyA ki yah AkulatA hai aur yah svabhAv hai. aisA nishchay kiyA utanA hI nahI.n, apitu use andar vedaname.n bhI lagatA hai ki yah AkulatA hai.

mumukShuH- khaTakakA bhI vahI prakAr, AkulatAkA vedan hotA hai isaliye khaTak rahA kare.

samAdhAnaH- khaTak rahA kare ki yah AkulatA hai. lekin vah bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. abhI shuddhAtmAkA svarUp pragaT nahI.n huA hai, vahA.N bIchame.n AtA hai. abhI pUrNatA nahI.n hai, bhale bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati chAlU ho to bhI bIchame.n shubhabhAv Ate hai.n. parantu vah samajhatA hai ki AkulatA hai. AkulatA AkulatArUp vedaname.n AtI hai, svabhAv svabhAvarUp vedaname.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- prashna to itanA hotA hai ki sAdhakako to vaisA honA barAbar hai, kyo.nki unho.nne to atIndriy AnandakA svAd chakhA hai, isaliye AkulatA pratyakSha lage. parantu usake pahale bhI mithyAdR^iShTikI bhUmikAme.n bhI manda kaShAyame.n bhI vedaname.n AkulatA lagatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- use lage. khaTakakI tIvratA ho jAy to use lage ki yah AkulatA hai. nakkI karatA hai. vah pragaT nahI.n huA hai to vah a.ntarame.n amuk prakArakA vedan pahachAnakar nakkI kare to apanese nakkI kiyA aisA kah sakate hai.n. ye abhI vedaname.n AtA hai, ye sab pravR^ittirUp bhAv AkulatArUp hai. ye j~nAn hai vah shAntirUp hai. amuk prakArase vah yuktime.n letA hai, apane vedan parase nakkI kare to usane kuCh yathArtha nakkI kiyA kahaneme.n Aye. Upar-Uparase nakkI kare vah yathArtharUpase nakkI nahI.n huA hai.

svaya.n apanA svabhAvako pahachAnakar, apanA vedan a.ntarase pahachAnakar nakkI kare to usane kuCh yathArtha nakkI kiyA hai. isaliye use vedaname.n AtA hai ki yah AkulatA hai, yah svabhAv j~nAn hai vah shAntirUp hai. lekin vah usase ChUT nahI.n sakatA hai, bhedaj~nAn nahI.n hotA hai, parantu vah amuk prakArase nishchay to kar sakatA hai. usake

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svaya.nke vedaname.n bhI j~nAt ho sake aisA hai ki ye AkulatA hai, ye shAnti hai, j~nAn hai. j~nAyakatA hai vah shAnti hai. aise.

mumukShuH- j~nAnI dharmAtmAko-bhagavAnako kaisA sukh hogA, vah bhI nakkI ho sakatA hai? vedanase, anumAnase.

samAdhAnaH- vedanase nakkI nahI.n (kar sakatA), parantu vah anumAnase nakkI kar sakatA hai. sukh kaisA ho? us sukhakA vedan svaya.nko nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- svaya.nko duHkhakA vedan hai, isase virUddha..

samAdhAnaH- isase virUddha sukh (hai), vah anumAnase nakkI kar sake. AkulatAse virUddha nirAkulatA, utanA vah nakkI kare. parantu vah Ananda guNako nakkI karanA vah anumAnase nakkI kar sake. AnandaguN use kahI.n vedaname.n nahI.n AtA hai. anumAnase amuk pramAN parase vah nakkI kar sakatA hai. yuktise, svabhAvase amuk nakkI kar sakatA hai. usake vedaname.n nahI.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- AkulatAkA to vedan hotA hai, isaliye j~nAnakI sUkShmatA hone par use pakaDame.n AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- use pakaDame.n AtA hai. sukh pakaDame.n Aye ki nirAkulatA vah sukh, AkulatA vah duHkha. parantu AnandaguN hai vah use anumAnase, amuk pramAN parase nakkI kare. jIv Anandako ichChatA hai, isaliye AtmAme.n aisA koI AnandaguN hai ki jisakI vah ichChA karatA hai vah milatA nahI.n hai. AtmAme.n aisA AnandaguNakA svabhAv hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! andar jo shubhAshubh bhAv hote hai.n, vah to ..

samAdhAnaH- bhAv jo hote hai.n use samajhakar, vah bhAv hai vah AkulatAkA vedan hai. andar jAnanevAlA hai vah bhinna hai. shubhAshubh bhAvo.nko jAnanevAlA bhinna hai aur shubhAshubh bhAv bhinna hai. vedan hotA hai vah to AkulatArUp hai. usase bhinna mai.n chaitanya hU.N, use jAnanevAlA bhinna hai.

mumukShuH- khyAlame.n AtA hai na ki ye bhAv huA, yah bhAv huA. jo bhAv hote hai.n vah pakaDame.n Ate hai.n ki aise bhAv hue. jise mAlUm paDatA hai vah mai.n hU.N, aise?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah jo mAlUm paDatA hai vah mai.n hU.N. parantu vah mAlUm paDatA hai vah usakI paryAy hai, mUl tattvako grahaN karanekA hai. jo mAlUm paDatA hai vah barAbar, mAlUm paDatA hai vah j~nAnakI paryAy hai. jo ye shubhAshubh bhAv hote hai.n ki yah bhAv AyA, yah bhAv AyA, yah bhAv AyA. vah sab j~nAnakI paryAy hai. parantu usame.n mUl vastu jo anAdiananta hai vah j~nAyak paripUrNa hai. ek-ek vastuko jAne,

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ek-ek vikalpako jAnanevAlA paryAye.n huyI, parantu mai.n ek akhaNDa j~nAyak shAshvat hU.N. aise akhaNDa dravyako grahaN karanA. jo mAlUm paDatA hai, us parase usakA pUrNa astitva grahaN karanA.

muumukShuH- jo mAlUm paDatA hai vah padArtha mai.n hU.N. samAdhAnaH- hA.N, jo mAlUm paD rahA hai, vah padArtha mai.n hU.N. jo khabar karanevAlA hai vah mUl vastu anAdiananta svataHsiddha mai.n hU.N. jo shubhAshubh bhAvo.nko jAnanevAlA hai, vah khabar karanevAlA hai, usakA jo mUl shAshvat astitva hai vah mai.n hU.N. vah astitva pUrNa j~nAyak hai. us j~nAyakame.n ananta shaktiyA.N bharI haiai.n.

mumukShuH- mAlUm paDaneme.n astitva mAlUm paDatA hai, bAkI dUsare guN itane mAlUm nahI.n paDate haiai.n ki dUsare-dUsare guN hai, usakA utanA khyAl nahI.n AtA hai. mAlUm paDatA hai isaliye .. j~nAt hotA hai. parantu dUsare bhI ananta guN hai.n, vah mAlUm nahI.n paDate.

samAdhAnaH- vah dikhAI nahI.n dete haiai.n. parantu jo shaktivAn padArtha hai, jo j~nAyak hai vah ananta shaktise bharapUr ho. jo dravya ho vah khAlI nahI.n hotA, usame.n ananta guN hI hote hai.n. dravya usakA nAm kahe.n ki jisame.n ananta shaktiyA.N ho. jisame.n amaryAdit vastu hai, chAhe jitanA pariName to bhI khatma na ho, aisI anantatAse bharA dravya hai. phir usake yukti, pramANase nakkI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- shAntikA to khyAl AtA hai ki jab andar jAte hai.n tab sukh lagatA hai, bAharame.n .. utanA mAlUm paDatA hai. shAnti mAlUm paDatI hai ki andar jAte hai.n to thoDI..

samAdhAnaH- shAnti lagatI hai. ananta guN to dikhAI nahI.n dete, parantu vah ananta shaktivAn padArtha hai. jisame.nse jo ananta paryAy (hotI hai). j~nAn hai vah adhUrA nahI.n hotA. jo svataH j~nAn, svaya.n svataHsiddha vastu hai, vah vastu anAdiananta hai. us j~nAnakI koI maryAdA nahI.n hotI. aisA j~nAn amaryAdit hai. isaliye amaryAdit j~nAn ho vah ananta shaktise bharA huA j~nAn hai. aise usame.n astitva, vastutva Adi ananta guN hai.n. vaise usame.n AnandaguN hai. vah bhI anantAse bharA hai. is tarah dravya ananta-ananta shaktio.nse bharA hai. vah dikhatA nahI.n hai, vedaname.n nahI.n AtA hai, parantu usakA anumAn ho sakatA hai. aur vah yukti aisI hotI hai ki yathArtha hotI hai. vah svaya.n nakkI kar sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- astitvakA bhI khyAl AtA hai ki merI maujUdagI hai. ... usakA khyAl Aye, astitvakA khyAl Aye.

samAdhAnaH- astitva, parantu vah astitva anantatAse bharA hai. aisA svaya.n nakkI

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kare to ho sakatA hai. AchAyAne yuktise, dalIlase (siddha kiyA hai). jo astitva ho vah adhUrA nahI.n hotA. pUrNa ananta svabhAvase bharA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... anAdiananta jaisA hai vaisA j~nAyak hai. dR^iShTi to aisI kara. usakI kR^itakR^itya dashA pUrNa paryAy pragaT ho tab ho. nahI.n to anAdiananta.. dR^iShTi to chaitanya par svaya.n jaisA hai vaisA hI hai. usame.n koI pheraphAr nahI.n huA hai. aise dravya par dR^iShTi kara. svaya.n jAnanevAlA hai. sAdhakabhAv bhI vyavahAr hai. isaliye us prakArase svaya.n vibhAv kartA nahI.n hai. adhUrI paryAy jitanA bhI svaya.n nahI.n hai. adhUrI paryAye.n ho.n, vah bhI apanA mUl svarUp nahI.n hai. isaliye tU dravya par dR^iShTi kara. kShayopashamabhAv aur upashamabhAv bhI adhUrI paryAye.n hai.n. isaliye tU pUrNa par dR^iShTi kara. tU jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hai. Age- pIChe mai.nne kuCh sunA nahI.n hai, parantu usakA Ashay yah hai.

sAdhakabhAv bhI vyavahAr hai. dR^iShTi to akhaNDa hotI hai. sAdhakabhAv bIchame.n Aye binA rahatA nahI.n. sAdhakabhAv vyavahAr hai. isaliye tU akhaNDa dravya par dR^iShTi kara. vah akhaNDa hai usame.n sAthame.n puruShArtha A jAtA hai. puruShArtha usame.n (hai). darshan, j~nAn, chAritra vyavahAr paryAy to adhUrI hai, isaliye usame.n puruShArtha to karanA hI hai, parantu tU vah sab kartAbuddhi ChoD de. tU j~nAtA hai. vah kartAbuddhi ChoD de. to bhI puruShArtha to usame.n karanekA rahatA hai.

nishchay aur vyavahAr dono.n jAnane yogya hai. dR^iShTi ek chaitanya par rakha. AdaraNIy ek chaitanya hai. dR^iShTike balase puruShArtha hotA hai. isaliye tU akhaNDa j~nAyak hai. sAdhakabhAv vyavahAr hai. vah bIchame.n Aye binA rahatA nahI.n. tU koI bhI paryAy hai, us paryAyakA nishchay dR^iShTise terA akartAsvabhAv hai, tere svabhAvakA kartA anAdiananta pAriNAmikabhAvase hai. aisA kahanA hai.

mumukShuH- arthAt vahA.N j~nAyakakI dR^iShTi karAneko....

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyakakI dR^iShTi karaneko. bandha-mokShake jo vikalpa Aye, vah vikalpa bhI shubhabhAv hai. vah bandha-mokShakI jo paryAy hai.n, vah paryAy bhI pragaT hotI hai mokShakI. isaliye tU paryAy par dR^iShTi mat karanA. vah sAdhakabhAv bIchame.n AtA hai. mokSha hai vah bhI ek paryAy hai. isaliye tU j~nAyak jAnanevAlA hai, akhaNDa shuddhAtmA hai. aisA kahanA hai. paryAy jitanA hI terA svarUp nahI.n hai. terA svarUp akhaNDa hai.

jo bAdame.n pragaT hotA hai, terA mUl svarUp to anAdiananta hai. parantu usame.n dravyadR^iShTi kare to hI shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai. sAdhakabhAv to bIchame.n AtA hai. sAdhakabhAv vyavahAr hai, aisA kahanA hai. sab adhUrI paryAy vyavahAr hai.

mumukShuH- yAnI vahA.Nse lakShya ChuDAnA hai.

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samAdhAnaH- lakShya ChuDAte haiai.n. lakShya ChuDAkar akhaNDa dravya par dR^iShTi karavAte hai.n. j~nAn to sabakA (hotA hai). anAdiananta hai us par dR^iShTi kar, aisA kahanA hai.

mumukShuH- gurudevakI us par bahut prasannatA thI. isaliye lagA, gurudevakA jAnanepar bahut (vajan thA).

samAdhAnaH- tU sab jAn, tU kartA nahI.n hai. jAn, j~nAyak ho. sab jAna. adhUrI paryAy, pUrNa paryAy un sabakA tU jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hai. tU sab jAna.

mumukShuH- jAnanekI paryAyako bhI karanI nahI.n hai, aise liyA. usakA jAnanevAlA hai, aise liyA. isaliye bahut..

samAdhAnaH- jAnanevAlI paryAyakA bhI tU jAnanevAlA hai. isaliye usame.n vyavahAr nahI.n hai, aisA kahanekA Ashay nahI.n hai. parantu vastudR^iShTi karavAnI hai. vastukA mUl svarUp batAte hai.n. isaliye vah paryAy AtmAme.n nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n. vah jAnanekI paryAy usame.n hotI nahI.n, aisA nahI.n hai. vah sab vyavahAr hai, lekin tU dR^iShTi... mUl vastukA svarUp batAte hai.n. akelA aisA ho to ye bandhake vibhAvabhAv hote hI nahI.n. to akelI mokShakI paryAy ho. yadi aisA ho to ye jAnanekA svabhAv jo dikhatA hai, vah bhI... AtmA kuCh jAn sake nahI.n. yadi jAnanekA svabhAv hI na ho to. vah sab jAnanekI paryAy hai. parantu tU dR^iShTi tere svakI or kar, aisA kahanA hai.

terA svaparaprakAshak svabhAv hai, parantu dR^iShTi tere dravya par kar, aisA kahanA hai. AchAryadev, gurudev sab ek hI bAt karate hai.n. dR^iShTi tU shuddhAtmA par kara. paryAy usame.n hotI hai, sAdhakadashA usame.n hotI hai, svaparaprakAshak terA svabhAv hai. parantu dR^iShTi tU parase haTAkar ek akhaNDa j~nAyak pAriNAmikabhAv par kara. pAriNAmikabhAv arthAt ek bhAv par nahI.n, lekin akhaNDa dravya par dR^iShTi kara.

mumukShuH- itanA tattva milA, ham hamase ho sake utanA prayatna, chi.ntan, ma.nthan sab karate bhI hai.n, parantu hamAre vyavahArik jIvaname.n chalate-phirate, koI jUTh bolanekA bhAv, mAyAchArIke bhAv hote ho, athavA sAmanevAle jIvako duHkh hogA aisA jAnanekI darakArakA bhAv na rahatA ho, vah sab to bAhya hai. to vah AtmasAdhanAme.n kuCh avarodharUp ho yA pAtratAkI (kShati hai)?

samAdhAnaH- svaya.n samajh lenA ki kaise bhAv Ate hai.n. mumukShukI bhUmikAme.n AtmArthakA prayojan mukhya (hotA hai). AtmArthIko na shobhe aise maryAdA toDakar aise vichAr AtmArthIko hote nahI.n. aise kArya bhI AtmArthIko nahI.n hote. jo AtmArthakA poShaN ho, AtmArthatAkI mukhyatA rahe aise bhAv AtmArthIko hote hai.n. apanI AtmArthatAkI maryAdA TUT jAy aise bhAv AtmArthIko hote nahI.n. phir kaise Ate hai.n, usakA vichAr svaya.nko karanA rahatA

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hai. usame.n kachAs ho to apanI pAtratA baDhAnI. AtmArthatAkA mukhya prayojan (honA chAhiye). AtmArthatAko koI hAni pahu.Nche aisI maryAdA toDakar aise vichAr AtmArthIko hote nahI.n.

mumukShuH- .. jab mokShame.n jAte hai.n, vahA.N dharmAstikAy, adharmAstikAyakA a.nt A jAtA hai, vahA.Nse Age nahI.n jA sakate. barAbar? dharmAstikAy jo gatime.n udAsIn sahAyatArUp hotA hai, vahA.N sthir ho jAneke bAd dharmAstikAy kaise madad karatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- vah to aisA hai ki jo chalate hue gatimAn ho use nimitta hotA hai. gatimAn na ho use nimitta hotA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. jo gatime.n ho use nimitta hotA hai. jo chalaneke bAd sthir ho use adharmAstikAy nimitta bane. gatimAnako dharmAstikAy nimitta hotA hai. aisA hotA hai. pratyek dravya svata.ntra hai. ...

mumukShuH- vihAr karate haiai.n tab ek bhAI ChaTapaTAte hai.n, garmIkA din thA, ChaTapaTAtA hai aur kahatA hai ki bachAo, bachAo, bachAo, mujhe thoDA pAnI do. bhAvali.ngIke pAs kama.nDalu upakaraN hotA hai, usame.n pAnI thA. to unhe.n denA yogya hai yA ayogya hai? pAnI denA chAhiye ki nahI.n denA chAhiye? vichitra prashna pUCh rahA hU.N.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvali.ngI muni svaya.n to bhinna hokar svarUpame.n lIn hokar basate hai.n. sarva prakArake vikalpa ChUT gaye hai.n. bhinna ho gaye hai.n. sarva kAyAse ChUT gaye hai.n. laukij~nak kAyAse ChUT gaye hai.n. aise kAyAme.n unhe.n us prakArakA vikalpa nahI.n AtA hai. unakA upayog bAhar nahI.n hotA hai. us jAtake kAyAme.n ve juDate nahI.n. ChUT jAte hai.n. yathArtha munidashA ChaThave.n-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate hai.n. aise kAyAse ChUT gaye hai.n. vah sab kArya gR^ihastho.nke hai.n. us kAryase ChUT gayA hai.

jisane yathArtha munipanA a.ngIkAr kiyA, ChaThave.n-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate hue, kevalaj~nAnakI talahaTI, kevalaj~nAn pUrNa kR^itakR^itya dashAkI talahaTIme.n khaDe hai.n, munidashA yAnI ChaThave.n-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate munirAj hai.n. aise bAhya kAyAse ChUT gaye hai.n. aur us jAtakA vikalpa nahI.n hotA hai, bhinna ho gaye hai.n.