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mumukShuH- dravyadR^iShTi paryAyakA svIkAr nahI.n karatI hai. parantu prayojan to paryAyame.n pUrNa shuddha honA vah hai, to kyA dR^iShTiko prayojanake sAth bhI sambandha nahI.n hai?

samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTi vastu svarUpako svIkAratI hai. mUl jo anAdiananta vastu hai, anAdiananta jaisI vastu asal svarUp hai, asal svarUpako dR^iShTi svIkAratI hai. aur use sAdhanA karanI hai, (usame.n) dR^iShTikA viShay alag hai aur j~nAnakA viShay alag hai. j~nAname.n aisA AtA hai ki paryAy adhUrI hai, paryAyako pUrNa karanI hai. isaliye dR^iShTikA vah viShay nahI.n hai. dR^iShTikA viShay akhaNDa dravya hai. asalI svarUp grahaN karanA, vastukA jaisA hai vaisA svarUp grahaN karanA vah dR^iShTikA viShay hai.

aur j~nAnakA viShay, usame.n paryAyake bhed, guNake bhed, usakA akhaNDa svarUp, asalI svarUp sab svarUp j~nAname.n AtA hai. vah j~nAnakA viShay hai. dR^iShTikA viShay ek asalI svarUp grahaN karanA vah usakA viShay hai. sAmAnyako grahaN karanA-asalI svarUpako, vah usakA viShay hai. aur j~nAname.n sAmAnya, visheSh sab grahaN karanA vah usakA viShay hai. usame.n puruShArthakA prayojan to sabame.n rahatA hI hai. parantu jo asalI svarUp grahaN karanA vah dR^iShTikA viShay hai. j~nAname.n dono.n viShay A jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- arthAt dR^iShTi apanA prayojan sAdhatI hai aur j~nAn dono.n sAdhatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- dono.n. j~nAname.n dono.n grahaN hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTime.n kyA guN hai, vah j~nAnako mAlUm hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, j~nAnako mAlUm hai.

mumukShuH- aur dR^iShTi kaise kAm karatI hai, vah bhI j~nAnako mAlUm hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah bhI mAlUm hai. dR^iShTi kyA kAm karatI hai? paryAyake kyA bhed hai? j~nAnako sab mAlUm paDatA hai. parantu dR^iShTikI mukhyatA binA Age nahI.n baDhA jAtA. vastukA asalI svarUp grahaN kiye binA Age nahI.n baDhA jAtA. usakA mUl svarUp yadi grahaN ho to usIme.n-se sab paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai.n. paryAy kahI.n bAharase nahI.n AtI hai. jo vastu svabhAv hai usIme.n-se pragaT hotI hai. ataH asalI svarUpako grahaN kare to hI pragaT hotI hai.

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isaliye dR^iShTikA viShay bhale asalI svarUp hai, parantu usake balame.n, usakA prayojan yah hai ki usake balase-dR^iShTike balase paryAy sahajarUpase sadhatI hai, paryAyame.n sahajarUpase shuddhatA pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShuH- svaya.n prayojanakI siddhi (hotI hai).

samAdhAnaH- usakA prayojan svaya.n A jAtA hai, dR^iShTime.n.

mumukShuH- bahut sundara.

samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTikI mukhyatA ho aur dR^iShTikA bal ho to usame.n svaya.n usakA prayojan A jAtA hai. dR^iShTike binA to Age nahI.n baDhA jAtA. j~nAn sab jAnatA hai, parantu dR^iShTike balake binA Age nahI.n baDhA jAtA. dR^iShTikA prayojan usame.n svaya.n A jAtA hai. jo dR^iShTikI mukhyatA hai, usame.n puruShArthakA bal sahaj hI A jAtA hai. ataH dR^iShTikA jahA.N viShay hai, usakA prayojan paryAyako shuddharUp pragaT karanI hai, vah usame.n A hI jAtA hai. dR^iShTi us par lakShya nahI.n karatI hai,

mumukShuH- phir bhI.

samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTi usakA viShay nahI.n karatI hai. dR^iShTi paryAyako gauN karatI hai. dR^iShTi sAdhanAkI paryAyako bhI gauN karatI hai. dR^iShTi svaya.nko ekako mukhya rakhatI hai. to bhI usame.n sAdhanAkI paryAy A hI jAtI hai aur usakA prayojan usame.n siddha ho jAtA hai. aisA dR^iShTikA bal hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! ek bAr dR^iShTi pragaT ho, phir usakA bal baDhatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, usakA bal baDhatA hai. mai.n yah chaitanya hU.N, mai.n anya kuCh nahI.n hU.N, mai.n akhaNDa svarUp hU.N. ye apUrNa-pUrNa paryAy ho, vah bhI merA mUl asal svarUp nahI.n hai. vibhAv, nimittakA abhAv-sadabhAvakI apekShA aur apUrNa-pUrNa paryAyakI apekShA usame.n AtI hai, isaliye jo mUl svarUp hai vah nahI.n hai.

ataH asalI svarUpako grahaN kare aur usake balame.n phir usakI nirmal paryAy pragaT hotI hai. dR^iShTikA viShay ho to hI shuddhatAkI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. parantu usake sAth j~nAn sab vivek karatA hai ki yah apUrNa paryAy hai aur pUrNa sAdhanAkI paryAy bAkI hai. aise vivek karatA hai, parantu bal dR^iShTikA hotA hai. dR^iShTike viShayame.n-se hI svabhAvakI nirmal paryAye.n pragaT hotI haiai.n. usakA bal baDhatA jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- Apase spaShTIkaraN to yah karavAnA thA ki, ek bAr samyak dR^iShTi honeke bAd usakA bal baDhatA hai? aur usame.n paryAyame.n nirmalatA visheSh-visheSh hotI jAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, usakA bal baDhatA jAtA hai. arthAt dR^iShTikA bal baDhatA hai.

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usake sAth chAritrakI paryAy, lInatAkI paryAy baDhatI jAtI hai. ek guNakI visheShatA ho, darshanakI nirmalatAme.n j~nAnakI nirmalatA aur chAritrakI nirmalatA (hotI hai). paraspar guNo.nko sambandha hai. sarvaguNA.nsh so samyagdarshana. ek samyagdarshanakI paryAyame.n samasta guNo.nke nirmal a.nsh pragaT hote hai.n. ekadUsarekI paryAy ekadUsareko sahakArI rUpase Age baDhatI hai. usame.n dR^iShTi mukhya rahatI hai.

dR^iShTi mukhya rahe isaliye usame.n j~nAn nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n. j~nAn bhI sAthame.n rahatA hai, puruShArtha sAthame.n rahatA hai, chAritrakI nirmal paryAy bhI pragaT hotI hai. pratyek guN apanA-apanA kArya karatA hai. parantu dR^iShTikA bal sAthame.n rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- bal deneme.n dR^iShTikA visheSh yogadAn hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, bal deneme.n dR^iShTi visheSh hai. mai.n yah hU.N, yah merA j~nAyakakA astitvakA vahI mai.n hU.N. anya sabako gauN karatI hai. parantu usame.n usakI viraktikI paryAye.n, lInatAkI paryAye.n, vibhAvase virakti aur svabhAvakI lInatA baDhatI jAtI hai. aur j~nAn usakA vivek karatA hai ki itanA adhUrA hai, itanA pragaT huA hai. abhI pragaT karanA bAkI hai. j~nAn sab jAnatA hai. yadi j~nAname.n na jAne to usakA puruShArtha karanA, svaya.n pUrNa hI hai to phir puuruShArtha kyA karanA? isaliye j~nAn vivek karatA hai ki abhI apUrNa paryAy hai, abhI pUrNatA karanI bAkI hai. aisA j~nAname.n vivek hai. dR^iShTikA bal sAthame.n hai aur chAritrakI lInatA, pariNati visheSh pragaT hotI jAtI hai. sab sAthame.n hI rahate hai.n. dR^iShTike sAth j~nAn, lInatA Adi sab sAthame.n rahate hai.n. svarUpAcharaN chAritra pahale pragaT hotA hai, phir chAritrakI visheSh paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai.n. usakI svAnubhUtikI dashA, amuk bhUmikA ho to amuk prakArase (hotI hai), phir vR^iddhigat hotI hai.

mumukShuH- usame.n j~nAname.n aisA mAlUm paDe ki puruShArtha bAkI hai, isaliye puruShArtha chale, vah kaise?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAname.n jAnatA hai ki puruShArtha bAkI hai. puruShArtha to,... vah j~nAname.n jAnatA hai. puruShArtha ho gayA aisA jAne to puruShArtha uThanA (rahatA nahI.n), vah jAnatA hai ki puruShArtha bAkI hai. puruShArtha uThatA hai svaya.n puruShArthase, parantu j~nAn usame.n jAnatA hai ki yah bAkI hai, usame.n j~nAn kAraN banatA hai. puruShArtha bAkI hai, aisA jAnatA hai, to puruShArtha uThanekA kAraN banatA hai. puruShArtha uThatA hai svaya.n puruShArthase. puruShArthake guNase uThatA hai. usakI utanI viraktise aur puruShArthake balase vah uThatA hai. j~nAn usakA vivek karatA hai.

mumukShuH- sab uThanekA mUl kAraN dR^iShTi? dR^iShTikA bala. jitanA dR^iShTikA bal baDhatA jAy utanA puruShArthame.n us anusAr...

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samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha vR^iddhigat hotA hai, j~nAn to vivek karatA hai. j~nAname.n adhik jAne aisA nahI.n, parantu usakI ugratA hotI jAtI hai. dR^iShTikA bal baDhe, usame.n virakti baDhatI jAtI hai. jo amuk-amuk bhUmikA palaTatI hai, usame.n vibhAvase virakti aur svabhAvakI pariNati baDhatI jAtI hai.

dR^iShTi to akhaNDa ho gayI. dUsarI apekShAse use aisA kahaneme.n Aye ki use chAritrame.n virakti kam hai, isaliye abhI lInatA kam hai. chAritrakI lInatA kam hai. parantu dR^iShTikA bal sAthame.n rahatA hai. koI apekShAse ais kahaneme.n Aye ki dR^iShTikA viShay pUrA hai. parantu abhI chAritrakI lInatA kam hai. chAritrakI lInatA baDhe to vah visheSh Age baDhatA hai. parantu dR^iShTi to sAthame.n hI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- chAritrame.n jaise-jaise vR^iddhi ho, usakA nAm virakti baDhatI hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, chAritrame.n lInatA, svarUpame.n visheSh lInatA hotI jAy, AcharaN vR^iddhigat hotA jAy to virakti baDhatI jAtI hai. vibhAvase virakti. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArAkI ugratA ho, vibhAvase virakti aur svabhAvakI pariNati, lInatA vR^iddhigat hotI hai.

mumukShuH- Asha.nkAme.n yah hai ki ek bAr dR^iShTi samyak ho gayI, phir to dR^iShTikA kArya pUrNa ho gayA. Apane kahA ki dR^iShTikA bal vR^iddhigatA hotA hai, vaise chAritrakI nirmalatAme.n pharka paDatA jAtA hai, vah barAbar hai.

samAdhAnaH- pharka paDatA hai. dR^iShTikA viShay to pUrA ho gayA, parantu usakA bal baDhatA jAtA hai. dR^iShTikA bal aur chAritrame.n puruShArtha baDhatA jAtA hai. dUsarI apekShAse aisA kahate hai.n ki chAritra manda hai, use us prakArakA puruShArtha manda hai, isaliye chAritrakA puruShArtha baDhatA jAtA hai, aisA bhI kahaneme.n AtA hai. aur dR^iShTi sAthame.n hai, parantu dR^iShTi mukhya rahatI hai. isaliye dR^iShTikA bal baDhatA jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTi mukhya rahatI hai, parantu aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai ki j~nAnIko ek samayame.n pUrNa huA jAtA ho to dUsare samayakA abhiprAy nahI.n hai, itanI pUrNatAkI ugra bhAvanA hai. to bhI dR^iShTime.n paryAyadR^iShTi hotI hI nahI.n, itanI ugra bhAvanA hai.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA hai abhI pUrNa huA jAtA ho to pUrNa ho jAU.N. utanI dR^iShTime.n bhAvanA utanI ugra rahatI hai. parantu puruShArtha nahI.n uThatA. puruShArthakI orase aisA liyA jAtA hai ki puruShArtha uThatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- paryAyakI pUrNatAkI aisI bhAvanA hone par bhI dR^iShTi paryAyadR^iShTi nahI.n hotI. dR^iShTi to...

samAdhAnaH- paryAyadR^iShTi nahI.n hotI.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTi dravyadR^iShTi hI rahatI hai.

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samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTi dravyakI rahatI hai aur bhAvanA aisI ugra hotI hai.

mumukShuH- ekadUsarekA kaisA viShay virodh hai.

samAdhAnaH- viShayakA virodh hai. dR^iShTi kahatI hai, mai.n dR^iShTime.n dravya apekShAse pUrNa hU.N, phir bhI bhAvanA aisI rahatI hai ki mai.n paryAyame.n kaise pUrNa ho jAU.N? bhAvanA aisI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- bhAvanA to chAritrakI paryAy hai na?

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA chAritrakI paryAy hai, parantu dR^iShTine aisA jAnA ki pUrNa hai, phir bhI kab pUrNa ho jAU.N, bhale chAritrakI bhAvanA hai, parantu dR^iShTi usake sAth hI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTikA viShay to kR^itakR^itya hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah to kR^itakR^itya hai. dR^iShTikA viShay to kR^itakR^itya hai. kR^itakR^itya hai, parantu dR^iShTikA bal AtA hai isaliye usakI..

uttaraH- bhAvanAkI siddhi hotI hai. samAdhAnaH- shuddhAtmAkI paryAy baDhatI hai. ananta kAlase dR^iShTi pragaT nahI.n huyI hai to bhAvanA hotI hai ki chAritra kaise ho? parantu mUl vastuko grahaN kiye binA chAritra yathArtha nahI.n ho sakatA. andar dR^iShTi pragaT honeke bAd hI usakI yathArtha dhArA uThatI hai. shuddha paryAyakI.

mumukShuH- isame.n jij~nAsukI kyA sthiti hogI? jo jij~nAsu ho aur jisakA a.ntar jhukanekA bhAv utpanna huA ho, use abhI dR^iShTi pragaT nahI.n huyI hai, anubhav nahI.n huA hai, parantu anubhav hone pUrva bhI usakI sthiti kyA hotI hai?

mumukShuH- melavAlI sthiti kaisI hotI hai? is lAInakI.

samAdhAnaH- use, mai.n AtmA chaitanya hU.N, aisI bhAvanA rahe. usakI buddhise nakkI kiyA hai ki mai.n chaitanya hU.N. chaitanya hU.N, mUl vastu svarUpase mai.n shuddha hU.N. parantu adhUrI paryAy hai, use kuCh pragaT nahI.n huA hai. j~nAname.n vivek kare ki bhAvanA to hai, parantu abhI kuCh pragaT nahI.n huA hai. bhinna hU.N, lekin bhinnakI pariNati pragaT nahI.n huyI hai. abhI pragaT karanI bAkI hai. aisA j~nAname.n vivek karatA hai.

parantu merA AtmA to shuddha hai. aisA buddhise nakkI kiyA hai, parantu shuddhatAkA koI anubhav nahI.n hai, isaliye usakA puruShArtha karatA rahatA hai. shuddha hU.N, parantu shuddhatAkA kisI bhI prakArakA anubhav nahI.n hai. isaliye shuddhatAkA anubhav kaise ho, usakA prayatna, usakA abhyAs karatA rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- use bhAvame.n shuddhatAkI kuCh hU.Nph jaisA lagatA hogA?

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samAdhAnaH- a.ntarase to hU.Nph nahI.n lagatI hai, parantu usakI buddhise aisA lage ki mai.n shuddha hU.N. a.ntarase, andar vedan hokar jo hU.Nph AnI chAhiye aisI nahI.n lagatI. parantu usane aisA nakkI kiyA ki mai.n shuddha hU.N aur mArga yahI hai, isI mArga par jAnA hai, bhedaj~nAn pragaT karanA hai, mArga yah hai, dUsarA koI mArga nahI.n hai, bAhar kahI.n jAnA nahI.n hai, sab a.ntarame.n hai, is kAraNase hU.Nphalage. mArgakA nirNay huA hai, isaliye. parantu a.ntarakI svAnubhUti hokar a.ntar j~nAyakakI dhArA (hotI hai), aisI hU.Nph use nahI.n hai. ... dR^iShTike balake kAraN, paraspar sab guN is prakAr sahakArI hai.n. sabakA viShay alag hai, parantu andar sahakArIrUpase kArya karate hai.n.

mumukShuH- ek prashnakA chAro.n pahalU-se Ap bahut sundar (spaShTa karate ho).

mumukShuH- jij~nAsu jIv kis sAdhanase Age baDhe?

samAdhAnaH- nirNay kare ki mai.n yah chaitanya hI hU.N, mai.n anAdiananta shuddha svarUp hU.N. ye vibhAvasvabhAv merA nahI.n hai. is tarah svabhAvako grahaN karanekA prayatna kare ki yah svabhAv merA hai, yah vibhAv hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn karanekA prayatna kare. svabhAvako grahaN karanekA prayatna kare. nakkI kare ki mai.n yah chaitanya hI hU.N. aisA buddhise nakkI kare phir use bhinna karanekA prayatna kare. usake liye usakI jij~nAsA, chaitanyakI mahimA kare. vah sab kare. a.ntarakI lagan lagAye, bhedaj~nAn kaise ho? svabhAv-vibhAv kaise bhinna ho? usakA sAdhana. buddhise nakkI karake usakA abhyAs kare.

buddhise aisA nirNay karane par use sahaj pragaT honekA puruShArtha utpanna ho to use yathArtha puruShArtha utpanna honekA koI prakAr hotA hai. mArga to yahI hai, svaya.nko hI nirNay karanA hai. pahale buddhise nakkI kare ki yah j~nAnasvabhAv mai.n hU.N, aisA shAstrame.n AtA hai. aisA pratItase nakkI kare, phir pragaT karanekA prayatna kare. mati aur shrutase nirNay kare ki yah j~nAnasvabhAv so mai.n hU.N, anya nahI.n hU.N. phir usakI pragaT prasiddhi kaise ho, usakA bAra.nbAr prayAs kare.

use shubhabhAvanAme.n dev-guru-shAstra aur a.ntarame.n mai.n shuddhAtmA hU.N, usakA bAra.nbAr abhyAs karatA rahe. shuddhAtmAkA. andar jAkar dekhe, andar pravesh karake dekhe ki mai.n shuddha (hU.N). pravesh karake to dekh nahI.n sakatA hai, yathArtha pragaT nahI.n huA hai isaliye buddhise nakkI kare.

usame.n AtA hai na ki bhUtArtha dR^iShTise dekhe, andar pravesh karake nakkI kare, usake samIp jAkar nakkI kare ki bhUtArthadR^iShTise mai.n yah shuddha hU.N. abhUtArthase sab yathArtha hai, aur bhUtArthadR^iShTi AtmA bhUtArtha hai. shuddhAtmA anAdiananta hai, usake samIp jAkar andar pravesh kare. pravesh kar nahI.n sakatA hai, buddhise nakkI kare.

mumukShuH- vahI usakA puruShArtha hai.

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mumukShuH- vartamAname.n to bhagavAnakI sAkShAt vANI nahI.n hai, AchAyAke Agam hai.n, phir bhI shrImadajIne to aisA kahA ki pratyakSha guuru, pratyakSha satpuruShakI mukhyatA itanI hai ki parokSha jin upakAr bhI usake Age gauN hai, to usame.n utanA kyA rahasya hai?

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnane kyA kahA hai, usakA rahasya jAnanA, vah to pratyakSha guru ho vahI jAn sakate hai.n. aur unakI vANIme.n jo AtA hai use sIdhA grahaN karaneme.n AtA hai, vah alag hI grahaN karaneme.n AtA hai. sIdhA shAstra lekar baiThe to usame.n- se svaya.n kuCh (nahI.n samajh pAtA). gurudev padhAre aur itanI vANI nikalI to sabako samajhane milA. sIdhA shAstra lekar pahale koI baiThatA thA, to usame.nse koI usakA artha nahI.n samajhatA thA.

shrImadake shabdo.nkA rahasya gurudevane kholA ki ve kyA kahate hai.n? samayasAr shAstra lekar pahale baiThate the, kisIke hAthame.n AyA, to usame.n bhI koI samajhatA nahI.n thA. shAstro.nme.n-se sIdhA rahasya kholanA bahut mushkil hai.

usame.n pratyakSha sadaguru jo batAye, kyo.nki unhe.n a.ntar AtmA pragaT huA hai, usame.nse batAye aur unakI jo vANI Aye aur jo asar ho (vah alag hotI hai). ve chaitanya hai.n, chaitanyako chaitanyakI asar ho vah koI alag hI hotI hai.

mumukShuH- chaitanyako chaitanyakI asarakA rahasya hai isame.n?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah rahasya hai. chaitanya koI chamatkArI vANI gurudevakI thI. gurudevakA to anupam upakAr hai. unakI vANI anupama. unako to andar shuddhAtmAkI shuddha paryAye.n pragaT huI thI. unakI shuddha paryAye.n, usame.n unakI j~nAn virakti Adi jo andarame.n ChA gayI thI, vah bAhar unakI mudrAme.n ChAyA thA. unakI vANIme.n vah thA.

unakA dravya alaukik! ma.ngalamay sab ma.ngalatA karanevAle aur divya eva.n alaukik dravya thA unakA. unhe.n andar shrutaj~nAnake dIpak, chaitanyaratnAkarako sparshit hokar shrutaj~nAnake dIpak prakAshit hue the. (aisA) shrutaj~nAn, vah sAtishay vANI, sAtishay shrutaj~nAn, sAtishay vANI chaitanyadevakA chamatkAr batA rahI thI. vah sabako asar karatA thA.

gurudevakA to anupam upakAr hai. usakA varNan kyA kahe.n? is AtmAkI pratyek paryAyame.n upakAr ho to gurudevakA hI hai. sab paryAyame.n. gurudev to nispR^ih, nIDaratAse jo spaShTa mArga thA vaisA prakAshit kiyA. a.ntarame.n jo thA, andar jo svAnubhUtikI dashA aur a.ntar Atmaratnako pragaT karake, svAnubhUti kaise pragaT ho, vah sabako batAyA. lAkho.n jIvo.nko. muktikA mArga chAro.n or-se prakAshit kiyA. unake upakArako kyA varNan ho? unakI sAtishay vANI, unakI sevA aur unakI mahimA hR^idayame.n rahe, bas! vahI karanA hai.