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samAdhAnaH- ... saurAShTra, gujarAt, hindIme.n to sab taiyAr (ho gaye). AtmAkI or muD gaye. AtmAkI ruchi pragaT huyI. a.ntarame.n mArga hai, bAhar nahI.n hai. vah sab dR^iShTi gurudevane batAyI. kitane hI kriyAme.n ruke the, kriyAse dharma hotA hai, shubhabhAv kare to dharma hotA hai, isase dharma hotA hai. shubhabhAv-se puNya bandhatA hai, dharma to hotA nahI.n. dharma to shuddhAtmAme.n hotA hai. pUrA mArga gurudevane batAyA. svAnubhUti a.ntarame.n (hotI hai), yah gurudevane batAyA.

svAnubhUtikA svarUp, munidashAkA svarUp sab gurudevane batAyA. muni ChaThave.n-sAtave.N guNasthAname.n jhulate ho, kShaName.n a.ntarame.n, kShaName.n bAhar aisI dashA munio.nkI hotI hai. sab gurudevane batAyA. .. ruke the, koI shuddhi-ashuddhime.n ruke the. a.ntarame.n bhedaj~nAn karane-se dharma hotA hai. sharIr bhinna, vikalpa bhinna, sabase bhinna AtmA nyArA hai use pahachAna. j~nAyak svarUp AtmAko pahachAna. a.ntar bhedaj~nAn (karake) sthir ho jA, andar yathArtha pratIti karake sthir ho jA. a.ntarame.n gurudevane muktikA mArga pragaT kiyA. svaya.nne pragaT karake dUsaro.nko darshAyA.

pratyek dravyakI svata.ntratA, pratyek dravya svata.ntra hai. koI kisIkA kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. svaya.n apanA upAdAn karatA hai. usake sAth nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha kaisA hotA hai, sab gurudevane batAyA. pahale-se Akhir takakA, samyagdarshanase lekar kevalaj~nAn parya.nt sab gurudevane batAyA.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- shAstra abhyAs to bIchame.n AtA hai. jabatak svaya.n a.ntarame.n yathArtha jAnatA nahI.n hai ki kyA j~nAyak svarUp hai? bhedaj~nAn nahI.n hotA. gurudevakI vANI andar yAd karatA rahe. gurudevane kyA mArga batAyA hai? svaya.n andar visheSh sthir na ho sake (to) shAstrAbhyAs to bIchame.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- ... lekin yahA.N-se jAte hai.n tab...

samAdhAnaH- shAstra abhyAs karanA. gurudevane shAstrake artha kaise kiye hai, usake anusAr shAstrakA svAdhyAy karanA. shAstra svAdhyAy to bIchame.n hotA hai. a.ntarame.n ek j~nAyak

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bhinna (hai, usakA) bhedaj~nAn kaise ho? aur bAharame.n shubhabhAvame.n dev-guru-shAstra hote hai.n. shrutakA chi.ntavan, dev-gurukI mahimA. munio.nko bhI shrutakA chi.ntavan hoshratA hai. ChaThave.n- sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate ho to bhI. svAnubhUtime.n a.ntarame.n jAte hai.n aur a.ntarmuhUrta bAhar Ate hai.n to shrutake vichAr hote hai.n. bIchame.n shAstrakA abhyAs hotA hai. lekin AtmAke lakShya-se, AtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye? AtmA bhinna hai, usakA bhedaj~nAn kaise ho? yah lakShya honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- samyagdarshan to nahI.n huA hai, parantu dR^iDh nishchay kiyA hai ki is bhavame.n samyagdarshan prApta karanA hI hai. dUsare koI kAryame.n ras nahI.n AtA. parantu is bhavame.n yadi prApta na kar sake to yah ras, ruchi dUsare bhavame.n kAm (AtA hai)? bhaviShyame.n kAm AtA hai ki nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- apUrva ruchi. a.ntar-se aisI pragaT huyI ho to vah ruchi apane sAth AtI hai. vah AtI hai. usake sa.nskAr jo gahare paDe ho.n, to jahA.N jAy vah andarame.n- se sphurate hai.n. AtmA bhinna hai, vah bhinna kaise prApta ho? aisI gaharI ruchi aur sa.nskAr ho, bhale dR^iDh nishchay ho, parantu pahu.NchA nahI.n ho to vah sa.nskAr use pragaT hote hai.n. yathArtha ho to pragaT hote hai.n.

ananta kAlame.n dev-guru-shAstrakA upadesh milA. gurukA upadesh milA, devakA milA. a.ntarame.n grahaN ho gayA ki ye kuCh apUrva kahanA chAhate hai.n. lekin abhI samyagdarshan nahI.n huA ho to use dUsare bhavame.n bhI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- sachchI shraddhA andarame.n dR^iDh kI hogI to vah bhaviShyame.n kAm AtI hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kAm AtI hai.

mumukShuH- ... aisA yog milA, phir bhI abhI tak nahI.n huA hai, isaliye...?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n huA hai to a.ntarame.n svaya.n vichAr kar lenA ki pahalekI jo ruchi ananta kAlame.n kI, parantu gaharAI-se svaya.nne ruchi nahI.n kI hai. sab Upar-Uparase grahaN kiyA hai. sab sthUl-sthUl (kiyA). yathArtha prakArase dev aur guruko svaya.nko pahachAnA nahI.n hai. aur a.ntarame.n jo AtmAkA svarUp kahanA chAhate hai.n, usakI apUrvatA nahI.n AyI hai. isaliye ananta kAlame.n bahut kiyA hai, lekin huA nahI.n hai. ab, svaya.nko a.ntarame.n kaisI ruchi hai, vah svaya.n pahachAn sakatA hai. yadi andarame.n gaharI ruchi ho to bhaviShyame.n vah pragaT hue binA rahatI hI nahI.n.

andarame.n aisI gaharI ruchi ho ki svaya.nko aisI khaTak rahatI hai ki vibhAvame.n kahI.n chain nahI.n paDatI. ye vibhAv mujhe chAhiye hI nahI.n. mujhe svabhAv chAhiye. svabhAvakI mahimA a.ntarame.n-se rahA kare, aisI gaharI mahimA rahA kare to vah sAthame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA.

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ananta kAlame.n koI apUrva ruchine svaya.nne nahI.n kI hai. sunA hai lekin apUrva ruchi nahI.n kI hai. shAstrame.n AtA hai na? tatprati prIti chitten, vArtApi shrutAH. vah vArtA bhI svaya.nne sunI to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjanama. bhaviShyame.n nirvANakA bhAjan (hai). lekin vah vArtA kaise sunI? koI apUrva ruchise sunI honI chAhiye. vah apUrva ruchi svaya.nko ho to vah pragaT hue binA nahI.n rahatI.

apUrva ruchise svaya.nne sunA nahI.n hai, isaliye ananta kAlame.n sunA lekin vah chalA gayA. apUrva ruchi svaya.nkI ho, andar dR^iDh nishchay ho ki AtmA pragaT karanA hI hai aur utanA puruShArtha huA na ho to vah ruchi usake sAth Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. ruchi use kAm AtI hai. aise gurudev mile, itanI andarakI ruchi ho, aise gurudev mile, aisA upadeshakA dhodh bahAyA, koI apUrvatA batAkar a.ntarame.n svaya.nko lagI ho to hue binA nahI.n rahatA.

mumukShuH- niyamasArame.n kalash hai ki kAraN aur kArya dono.n shuddha hai. usakA kyA artha hotA hai? kAraN bhI shuddha hai aur kArya shuddha hai.

samAdhAnaH- kaun-sA kalash AtA hai kAraN-kAryakA? kAraN dR^iShTi jo pragaT huyI vah bhI shuddha hai. yadi kAraN shuddha hai to usakA kArya bhI shuddha hai. kAraN- kArya dono.n shuddha hai.n. kAraN jo dravya svarUp AtmA vah kAraN hai, vah bhI shuddha hai. usakI dR^iShTikI paryAy pragaT huyI vah bhI shuddha hai. kAraN ashuddha ho aur kArya shuddha ho, aisA nahI.n banatA. kAraN-kArya dono.n shuddha hote hai.n.

muktikA mArga jo darshan, j~nAn, chAritra hai vah bhI shuddha hai aur muktikI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, vah bhI shuddha hai. dravya svarUp AtmA hai vah bhI shuddha hai. usakI dR^iShTi pragaT hotI hai, viShay bhI shuddha hai, usakI paryAy shuddha hai. aur muktikA mArga jo darshan, j~nAn, chAritra pragaT hotA hai vah muktikA kAraN hai. to vah bhI shuddha hai. usakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai vah bhI shuddha hai. kAraN bhI shuddha hai aur kArya bhI shuddha hai. dravya apekShAse bhI shuddha hai, paryAy apekShAse bhI shuddha hai. .. vah bhI shuddha hai, muktikI paryAy hotI hai vah bhI shuddha hai. dravyasvarUp AtmA bhI shuddha hai. usakI jo dR^iShTi hotI hai, vah bhI shuddha hai.

mumukShuH- kAraN-kArya dravya-paryAyame.n bhI hai aur kAraN-kArya paryAy-paryAyame.n bhI hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, paryAy-paryAyame.n hai. muktikA mArga aur mukti-pUrNa mukti. vah bhI kAraN-kArya. aur dravya kAraN, paryAy kArya. vah bhI shuddha hai. dravyame.n bhI dravya aur paryAy usame.n bhI kAraN-kArya hai. paryAy-paryAyamee.n bhI kAraN-kArya hotA hai. aisA bhI vyavahAr hotA hai. muktikA mArga kAraN aur muktikI paryAy kArya, aisA bhI hotA hai.

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vyavahArame.n muktikA mArga bhI kAraN hai aur muktikI paryAy kArya hai. aisA bhI kAraN- kArya hotA hai.

mumukShuH- kAraN shuddha aur kArya ashuddha aisA nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- aisA nahI.n hotA. mUl to dravya shuddha hai. isaliye dravyakI dR^iShTi... dravya kAraN aur paryAy kArya hai. vah muktikA mArga hai. bAdame.n vyavahArame.n muktikA mArga kAraN hai aur muktikI paryAy (kArya hai). parantu kAraN ashuddha aur kArya shuddha, aisA nahI.n hotA hai. kAraN ashuddha nahI.n hotA hai. pa.nch mahAvrat kAraN hotA hai aur usakA kArya shuddha hotA hai, aisA nahI.n hotA. pa.nch mahAvrat shubh pariNAm kAraN hotA hai aur usakA chAritra shuddha hotA hai, aisA nahI.n hotA hai. aNuvrat, mahAvrat shubh pariNAm hai. vah to bIchame.n AtA hai. shubhabhAvakA kAraN-kArya jo kahaneme.n AtA hai vah vyavahAr hai. shubh kAraN aur shuddha kArya, aisA nahI.n hotA. ashuddhakA kAraN-kArya nahI.n hotA. shubh kAraN aur shubh kArya, aisA hotA hai. sAdhak paryAy shuddha hai, pUrNatA shuddha hai. dravya shuddha hai, usakI paryAy shuddha, dR^iShTikI paryAy shuddha hai. aisA shuddha hotA hai.

mumukShuH- dravya-paryAyame.n kAraN-kArya le (to) kAraN to sabake pAs shuddha hai. to kAryame.n ashuddhatA kyo.n rahatI hai? kAraN to sabake pAs shuddha hai anAdiananta, to kAryame.n ashuddhatA kyo.n rahatI hai?

samAdhAnaH- kAraN kyA? mokShakA kAraN kyA? dravyame.n ashuddha pariNati anAdi- se hotI hI hai. dravya usakA kAraN nahI.n hotA hai. vah muktikA kAraN-kArya kahA.N hai? vah to vibhAvik paryAy hai. vibhAvame.n usakA dravyakA kAraN nahI.n hotA hai. shuddha kAraN aur ashuddha vibhAv paryAy, aisA nahI.n hotA. puruShArthakI mandatAse vibhAv pariNati hotI hai. vah kAraN hai. muktikA kAraN nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAnIke sAre bhAv j~nAnamay hote hai.n. usakA svarUpakA khulAsA.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAnIkI dishA aur dR^iShTi palaT gayI. dravya taraph dR^iShTi ho gayI, usakI pariNati bhI dravya taraph ho gayI. isaliye j~nAnIkA sab kArya j~nAnamay hotA hai. vibhAv alpa hotA hai-asthiratA, to vah gauN hai. isaliye usakA sab kArya j~nAnamay hI hotA hai.

j~nAtAkI dhArA usako chalatI hai. svAnubhUti to hotI hai, parantu vartamAn j~nAtAkI dhArA, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA rahatI hai. jo-jo vibhAv Ave to kShaN-kShaName.n j~nAtAkI dhArA, j~nAyakakI dhArA nyArI rahatI hai. isaliye j~nAnIkI sab pariNati j~nAnamay hotI hai, j~nAtAmay hotI hai, sAkShImay hotI hai. vibhAvako gauN kahaneme.n AtA hai. isaliye j~nAnIkA sab kArya, usakI sab pariNati j~nAnamay hotI hai. vah aj~nAnamay nahI.n hotI hai, ekatvabuddhirUp nahI.n hotI hai. vibhAv hotA hai to usase nyArA rahatA hai. isaliye usakA sab kArya,

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a.ntarakI jo pariNati hai vah sab j~nAnamay hotI hai.

j~nAnIkI sab pariNati, sab kArya, sab paryAy j~nAnamay hotI hai, aj~nAnamay nahI.n hotI hai. j~nAnamay hotI hai. usakI dishA palaT gayI. j~nAyak jo AtmA, usakI taraph usakI dR^iShTi chalI gayI to pariNati us taraph chalI gayI. isaliye sab pariNati j~nAnamay hotI hai. ekatvabuddhi hai vah aj~nAn hai. j~nAyakakI dhArA nahI.n hai, isaliye usake sab kArya aj~nAnamay hote hai.n. j~nAyakakI dhArA pragaT ho gayI, isaliye usake sab kArya j~nAnamay hote hai.n. j~nAyakakI dhArA chAlU hI rahatI hai. vibhAv jo-jo Aye to usame.n j~nAyakakI dhArA bhinna hI rahatI hai. isaliye sab pariNati j~nAnamay hotI hai.

mumukShuH- .. savikalpa hotI hai yA nirvikalpa?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyakakI dhArA-j~nAnadhArA savikalpa bhI hotI hai aur nirvikalpame.n to vikalpa nahI.n hai. nirvikalpame.n bhI j~nAnadhArA hai aur savikalpame.n bhI j~nAnadhArA hai. dono.nme.n j~nAnadhArA hotI hai.

mumukShuH- ek-sI hotI hai dono.nme.n j~nAnadhArA? savikalpame.n bhI aur nirvikalpame.n bhI?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyakakI dhArA ugra hai. nirvikalpame.n hai to vikalpa nahI.n hai. j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp lIn ho gayA hai. bAhar Ave to vikalpake sAthame.n hai to bhinna bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA rahatI hai. aur svAnubhUtime.n nirvikalpa dhArA hai. savikalpame.n vikalpavAlI dhArA hai parantu j~nAnadhArA hai. udayadhArA aur j~nAnadhArA bhinna-bhinna hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. jyAdA shubhabhAv kar lU.N yA jyAdA kriyA kar lU.N, bahut upavAs kar lU.N, aisA kar lU.N, usase janma-maraN nahI.n TUTatA. janma-maraN bhedaj~nAn karane-se, AtmAko pahachAnane-se TUTatA hai. bIchame.n shubharAg AtA hai to puNyabandha hotA hai. jabatak shuddhAtmAme.n lIn nahI.n hotA hai to shubharAg AtA hai, lekin vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. vah heyabuddhise bIchame.n AtA hai. vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn kare. aur jab lInatA kare to bhI shubhabhAv AtA hai, lekin vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usase janma-maraN nahI.n TUTatA hai.

muniko bhI pa.nch mahAvrat, shrAvakako aNuvrat AtA hai, vah shubhabhAv hai. ve usakA bhedaj~nAn karate hai.n. samyagdarshanapUrvak jo munidashA hotI hai, vah munidashA hai. samyagdarshanapUrvaka. svAnubhUti munio.nko kShaN-kShaName.n AtmAme.n lIn hote hai.n. aise svarUpakI prApti hotI hai. chAritra dashA vItarAg dashA kevalaj~nAn hotA hai tab rAgakA kShay, vItarAg dashA hotI hai.

pahale usakA bhedaj~nAn hotA hai ki rAg mai.n nahI.n hU.N, aisA shraddhAn karanA, usakA bhedaj~nAn karanA. samyagdR^iShTiko bhI gR^ihasthAshramame.n svAnubhUti hotI hai. svAnubhUti hai vahI muktikA mArga hai, janma-maraN usase (Talate hai.n). bAhar rukane-se nahI.n hotA hai. ananta kAlame.n

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shubhabhAv bhI bahut kiye. parantu vah to puNyabandhakA kAraN banA.

AchAryadev kahate hai.n ki ham to Age baDhaneko, shuddhAtmA tIsarI bhUmikAkograhaN karaneko (kahate hai.n), pIChe giraneko nahI.n kahate hai.n. shubhako ChoDakar ashubh karaneko nahI.n kahate haiai.n. parantu shubh-se (bhinna) tIsarI bhUmikA, shubhabhAv-se (bhinna) tIsarI bhUmikA shuddhAtmA, usako grahaN karo. vah amR^itasvarUp hai usako grahaN karo. shubhabhAv sharaNarUp nahI.n hai, bIchame.n AtA hai.

mumuukShuko dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, bhakti, manda kaShAy mumukShuko hotA hai. dev- guru-shAstrakI mahimA hotI hai, parantu shuddhAtmAkA dhyey honA chAhiye. mai.n shuddhAtmAko kaise (grahaN karu.N)? merA AtmA nyArA hai, aisI shraddhA honI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- pUjya mAtAjI! jain dharma hI satya hai, aisA Apane kis prakAr-se ... kiyA?

samAdhAnaH- jain dharma hI satya hai, kyo.nki jain dharmame.n yathArtha svarUp hai. anekAnta svarUp (hai). AtmA koI apekShAse nitya hai, koI apekShAse anitya hai, koI apekShAse ek, koI apekShAse anek (hai). ye jo jain dharmame.n jo svarUp hai,.... jain dharma koI vADA nahI.n hai, yathArtha muktikA mArga hai. vah yathArtha muktikA mArga batAtA hai. dUsare anya-anya matome.n koI mAtra kShaNik mAnatA hai, koI kriyAme.n dharma mAnatA hai, koI ekAnta nitya, kUTastha mAnatA hai, koI aisA mAnatA hai. aisA vastukA svarUp nahI.n hai.

vastukA svarUp bhItarame.n vichAr to koI apekShAse AtmA nitya (hai). svabhAv dravya apekShAse nitya hai, paryAy apekShAse anitya hai. usame.n guN anek hai.n, to guN kahI.n khaNDa-khaNDa, khaNDa-khaNDa nahI.n hai. ek vastume.n ananta guN hai. aisA jo bhagavAnane vItarAg mArgame.n kahA hai, vaisA anyame.n nahI.n hai. yahI mArga satya hai. AtmAme.n ashuddhatA to paryAyame.n hai. vAstavik dravya to shuddha hai. to koI kahatA hai ki ekAnta shuddha hai. paryAyame.n ashuddhatA hai aur dravya apekShAse shuddha hai. aisA jo jain darshaname.n jo vastukA svarUp bhagavAnane batAyA hai, aisA kIdhar bhI nahI.n hai.

usakA rahasya gurudevane pragaT kiyA hai ki vastukA svarUp aisA hI hai. aur AtmAme.n svAnubhUtime.n AtmAkA astitva grahaN karo, usakA bhedaj~nAn karo. usase AtmAme.n svAnubhUti hotI hai. aisA jain dharmame.n hai, vaisA kIdhar bhI nahI.n hai. yathArtha yahI mArga hai. anekAnta svarUp-dravya apekShAse nitya, paryAy apekShAse anitya. yah jainadarshaname.n hai, aisA kisIme.n nahI.n hai. koI ek-ek, ek-ek vastuko kahatA hai. koI kShaNik sarvathA, koI sarvathA nitya, koI sarvathA anek, koI kahatA hai, parako jAnatA hai, apaneko nahI.n jAnatA hai, koI kahatA hai, apaneko jAnatA hai, parako nahI.n jAnatA hai, aise anek matamatA.ntar

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(chalate hai.n). jo vastu svarUp hai, jaisA bhagavAnane kahA aisA shAstrame.n AtA hai. gurudevane aisA mArga pragaT kiyA, aisA kIdhar bhI nahI.n hai. ye apUrva svarUp hai.

AtmA koI achi.ntya anekAntamayI mUrti, anekAntamay mUrti AtmA hai. chAro.n or- se, sab pahalU-se dekho to vah anekAnta svarUp hai. jo apekShA-se nitya hai, vahI apekShA-se anitya nahI.n hai. anityakI apekShA bhinna aur nityakI apekShA judI hai. dravya apekShA-se nitya aur paryAy apekShAse anitya, aisA hai. aisA koI kahatA hai, vyavahAr bhI hai, nishchay bhI hai. vyavahArakI apekShA judI hai aur nishchayakI apekShA judI hai. nishchay vastu svarUp hai aur vyavahAr paryAy apekShA hai. dono.n apekShA bhinna-bhinna hai. jaisA hai aisA samajhanA chAhiye. to muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. ekAnta shuddha mAn le to kaCh karanA nahI.n rahatA hai. (ekAnta) ashuddha mAn le to ashuddha shuddha kaise hove? jo shuddha hai dravya apekShAse, to bhI ashuddha sarvathA nahI.n hai to puruShArtha kisakA karanA? is apekShAse paryAyame.n ashuddhatA hai aur dravyame.n shuddhatA hai. dravya par dR^iShTi karake paryAyame.n ashuddhatA hai vah TUTatI hai. aur shraddhA-j~nAn karake jo svabhAvame.n-se pragaT hotA hai, vibhAvame.n-se nahI.n AtA hai. svabhAvakI dR^iShTi karane-se paryAyame.n shuddhatA pragaT hotI hai. aise muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. anekAnta samajhe binA muktikA mArga pragaT nahI.n hotA. AtmAme.n sukh nahI.n hotA hai.