Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 256.

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mumukShuH- svarUpakA arthAt dhruvakA bhAvabhAsan jise kahate hai.n, vah vartamAn jo j~nAn pariNati hai, usakA bhAv nirvikalpapanA aur svaparaprakAshakapanA .... usake khyAlapUrvak jAnapanAmAtra jo pUrI vastu hai, vah mai.n hU.N, us prakAr-se pahachAn to huI, pahale us prakAr-se pahachAn nahI.n hotI thI. ye koI jAnanevAlI sattA hai ki nahI.n? parantu us jAnanevAlekI sattAkA pragaT khyAl spaShTarUp-se nahI.n AtA thA. is spaShTa khyAlapUrvak pUrA dhruv svarUp, usakA lakShaN-se khyAl kiyA ki aisA aNUrtik, mUrtik sharIr- se bilakUl bhinna amUrtik j~nAnamay AtmA mai.n hU.N, aisA nirNay karanA hai. vah nirNay karanA hai vahA.N tak to barAbar hai. parantu vah nirNay ho nahI.n rahA hai, nirNay TikatA nahI.n hai, vichArame.n mai.n yah hU.N, aisA kare, phir rAgakA pariNAm ho jAy, usame.n ThIk- aThIkapanA turanta vedaname.n Akar usakI adhikatA bhAsit ho jAy, phir nirNay to jo thA vahI rahatA hai. yahA.N-se bhI Age baDhanA ho to kis prakAr-se karanA chAhiye? aur kyA karanA chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarame.n bhAvabhAsan ho ki j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N. j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN karake aur bAra.nbAr use yathArtha nirNay ho to use TikAye rakhanA chAhiye. vah TikAtA nahI.n aur palaT jAtA hai. buddhipUrvak nirNay kiyA ki mai.n bhinna hU.N, aisA nirNay kiyA ki merA astitva bhinna hai, ye sab vibhAvabhAv-se mai.n bhinna hU.N. akelA j~nAnamAtra svabhAv-j~nAyak (hU.N). j~nAn mAne akelA guN nahI.n, parantu mai.n pUrA j~nAyak hU.N. aise grahaN kiyA, buddhime.n nakkI kiyA parantu mai.n bhinna hU.N.. ekatva pariNati jo svaya.nkI ho rahI hai, us vakta bhI mai.n bhinna j~nAyak hU.N, us vakta bhI mai.n bhinna j~nAyak hU.N, aisI usakI dR^iDhatA aur aisI usakI pariNati bAra.nbAr TikAtA nahI.n hai. palaTakar vah mukhya ho jAtA hai aur yah gauN ho jAtA hai. apane astitvako svaya.n bhUl jAtA hai aur jo vibhAvakA astitva hai, use mukhya (ho jAtA hai). merA astitva mAno vibhAvame.n hai. apanA astitva bhUl jAtA hai. ek bAr, do bAr, tIn bAr vah nakkI karatA hai, parantu jo vikalpakI dhArA vartatI hai, usame.n ekatva ho jAtA hai.

andar svaya.n bhinna hai, aisA yathArtha nirNay kiyA ki mai.n bhinna hI hU.N, aisA nakkI


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kiyA to bhinnatA anusAr svaya.n bhinna kArya karatA nahI.n hai. mAtra buddhime.n nirNay karatA hai. parantu bhinnatAkA abhyAs nahI.n karatA hai. bAra.nbAr use TikAtA nahI.n hai. aur vah buddhipUrvak vikalpa-se karane jAy to upAdhi aur AkulatA ho jAy ki ise kaise TikAnA? ek jAtakA prayAs vah nahI.n kar sakatA hai. parantu vah sahajapane kaise ho, usakI bAra.nbAr laganI, abhyAs bAra.nbAr TikAye rakhe.

nirNay kiyA usakA kArya lAtA nahI.n hai. mai.n bhinna hU.N, aisA nakkI kiyA lekin bhinnatArUp kArya nahI.n lAtA hai. jo-jo pariNatikA uday AtA hai, usI vakta mai.n bhinna hU.N, bhinna rahanekA, us prakAr-se apanI pratItiko TikAnekA vah udyam nahI.n karatA hai aur kArya lAtA nahI.n. isaliye Age nahI.n baDhatA hai. nirNay karake ChoD detA hai, nirNay karake ChoD detA hai.

mumukShuH- ChUT jAtA hai, mAtAjI!

samAdhAnaH- bhale ChUT jAtA hai. utanA prayAs usakA Age chalatA nahI.n hai, ChUT jAtA hai. ChUT jAtA hai, bAra.nbAr use TikatA nahI.n hai. parantu vikalparUp-se, abhyAs- rUp-se bhI TikAtA nahI.n hai. vikalparUp-se yA abhyAsarUp-se TikAye to use Age jAkar sahaj honekA avakAsh hai. parantu vah use TikatA nahI.n hai, ChUT jAtA hai. isaliye jo pariNati hai us taraph dauDA jAtA hai. vikalpame.n, bhAvame.n use ruchime.n lage ki mai.n bhinna hU.N. parantu bhinnakA bhinnarUp kArya to hotA nahI.n. buddhime.n rahatA hai aur kArya hotA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- rAgame.n ekatA to turanta dikhatI hai ki ekatA yahA.N ho gayI.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ekatA ho jAtI hai. bhinna bhinnarUp kAryarUp hotA nahI.n. isaliye vah kArya nahI.n hotA hai. vah dUr jAy to use bhinnatArUp kArya lAnekA hai. bhinnatAkI pariNati karake kArya lAnekA hai, vah kar nahI.n sakatA hai. bAra.nbAr aise hI khaDA rahatA hai. usame.n use mahenat paDatI hai, isaliye vah karatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- usame.n mahenat kis prakArakI?

samAdhAnaH- use sahaj (nahI.n hotA). vah sahaj hai isaliye vahA.N dauDA jAtA hai, anAdikA abhyAs hai vah sahaj ho jAtA hai. isame.n use dishA palaTanI hai vah ChUT jAtA hai. buddhipUrvak karake ChUT jAtA hai, bAra.nbAr ChUT jAtA hai. isaliye utanI ruchikI mandatA hai, puruShArthakI mandatA hai. isaliye vah ChUT jAtA hai.

utanI lagan lagI ho ki bas, yah chaitanya hI (chAhiye), chaitanya binAkI pariNati mujhe chAhiye hI nahI.n. mujhe chaitanyakA hI astitva chAhiye. yah astitva mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. utanI andar-se lagan, mahimA aur ruchikI ugratA ho to usakA puruShArtha TikA rahatA


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hai. nahI.n to usakA puruShArtha bAr-bAr ChUT jAtA hai. vah mAtra vikalpa-se nahI.n TikatA. andar-se sachamUchame.n lage to vah Tike. vAstavame.n lage to Tike. to usakA kAryarUp Aye. nirNayakA kArya Aye to pratIti pratItirUp kArya lAye.

mumukShuH- pahale to kyA hotA thA ki korA vikalpa thA. bhAvabhAsan jise kahe.n aisA nahI.n thA. ab itanA khyAlame.n AtA hai ki is prakAr-se yah j~nAyak hai, usame.n aha.npanA karanA. parantu usame.n AdhA ghaNTA, ek ghaNTA, do ghaNTA abhyAs kiyA ho, parantu dUsarA prasa.ng Aye isaliye turanta aisA lage ki rAgame.n ekatA ho jAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- abhI sahaj nahI.n hai, isaliye usame.n phir-se ekatA ho jAtI hai. use bAra.nbAr abhyAs karanA chAhiye to hotA hai. aur rasapUrvak abhyAs ho aur usIkI mahimA lage to vah abhyAs bAra.nbAr ho.

mumukShuH- isIme.n ugra abhyAs, ruchi, puruShArtha aur mahimA. itanA use baDhanA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah baDhanA chAhiye. abhyAs, puruShArtha, ruchi, mahimA sab baDhanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- .. nirNay to nirNay hai. nirNay ho to phir kyo.n haT jAy?

samAdhAnaH- nirNayame.n itanA ki yah mai.n hU.N, itanA. parantu yah mai.n hU.N, isase bhinna hU.N. parantu bhinna bhinnatArUp kArya kare to pratItine kArya kiyA kahaneme.n Aye. bhinnatArUp kArya nahI.n AtA hai, tabatak pratIti jyo.nkI tyo.n buddhipUrvak rah jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- bhinnatArUp kArya Ave to use atIndriy AnandakA Ave, aisA kahanA hai?

samAdhAnaH- bhinnatArUp kArya lAkar vah yadi sahaj ho to use atIndriy Ave.

mumukShuH- usake pahale bhinnatArUp kArya kis prakAr-se?

samAdhAnaH- use bhedaj~nAnakA kArya sahaj honA chAhiye. phir vah kitanI bAr ho, vah usake puruShArtha (AdhArit hai). kisIko turanta atIndriy nirvikalpa svAnubhUti ho, kisIko thoDI der lage. parantu use sahaj bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA honI chAhiye, to use hotA hai. usakA kAraN yathArtha ho to kArya AtA hai.

mumukShuH- anubhavake pahale bhI aisA koI judA kArya dikhatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- bhinna kArya use AnA chAhiye, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArAkA kArya AnA chAhiye. bhedaj~nAnakA kArya... nirvikalpa dashAkA jo yathArtha kAraN hai vah kAraN use yathArtha honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- us jAtakA kArya...

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, us jAtakA kArya. nirvikalpa dashAkA kAraN hai us jAtakA. usake pahale to abhyAs karatA rahe. abhyAs ChUT jAy (to bAr-bAr kare).


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mumukShuH- koI bAr to aisA lage ki mAno sahaj khyAl AtA ho aisA lage. aur kaI bAr ghaNTo.n tak baiThe ho.n to sAmAnya spaShTatA bhI nahI.n rahatI ho, aisA bhI banatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- bhinna-bhinna prakAr-se pariNati kArya kare. koI bAr sUkShmarUp-se kare, koI bAr sthUlarUp-se kare. isaliye usame.n usakA prayatna koI bAr tIvra ho jAya. sUkShma grahaN kare, koI bAr sthUl (ho jAy), isaliye usame.n use pheraphAr hotA rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- .. kAryame.n Apane aisA kahA ki vikalpAtmak bhedaj~nAn andarame.n aise kAryarUp ho ki jisakA phal anubhUtirUp Aye. aisI ek sthiti bhI banatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisI sthiti banatI hai. use sahaj dhArA ho ki jisakA kArya nirvikalpa dashA Ave. abhI use, vAstavik nirvikalpatAke bAd jo sahaj hotA hai, aisA nahI.n kah sakate, parantu nirvikalpa dashA pUrva usakA kAraN aisA pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShuH- us jAtakA Ap IshArA karanA chAhate hai.n ki is prakArakA honA chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. ... karate-karate yadi use ugra puruShArtha ho to use yathArtha kAraN pragaT honekA ban jAtA hai. andar-se lagA rahe to. ChoD to koI avakAsh nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- ... apaneko dekhane-se aisA to lagatA hai ki puruShArthakI mandatA hai. jitanI ugratA chAhiye utanI nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- apaneko khyAl Aye.

mumukShuH- .. phir bhI aisA lage ki puruShArtha manda hai. aisA khyAl Aye to karatA rahe.

samAdhAnaH- bAharame.n nivR^itti ho to bhI a.ntarame.n karanA to svaya.nko rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- ab aisA lagatA hai ki thoDA-thoDA bhAvabhAsaname.n AtA jAtA hai. lekin abhI to bahut ruchi ityAdikA puruShArtha bAkI hai.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvabhAsan hokar usako TikAnA, us prakArakA abhyAs karanA vah bAkI rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- 17vI.n gAthAme.n AyA ki pahale jAnanA aur phir shraddhAn karanA, vah kaise jAnanA? AtmA to arUpI hai.

samAdhAnaH- arUpI jAnaneme.n AtA hai. arUpI hai parantu koI avastu nahI.n hai. vastu hai isaliye j~nAt hotI hai. j~nAnako j~nAn-se jAnA jAtA hai, j~nAyakako j~nAn-se jAnA jAtA hai. j~nAyak arUpI aur j~nAn bhI arUpI. isaliye j~nAyak j~nAn-se j~nAt hotA hai. use jAnaneke liye rUpI vastukI jarUrat nahI.n paDatI. arUpI arUpI-se j~naAt hotA hai. j~nAn arUpI aur j~nAyak arUpI hai. j~nAn-se j~nAyak j~nAt hotA hai. use


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rUpI vastukI madadakI AvashyakatA nahI.n hai. bIchame.n nimitta hotA hai utanA. bAkI svaya.n usake lakShaN-se jAn sakatA hai. dev-guru-shAstrakA nimitta hotA hai, parantu upAdAn svaya.n taiyAr karake jAne to svaya.n apaneko j~nAn dvArA j~nAyak j~nAt hotA hai.

mumukShuH- vikalpa dvArA nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- vikalpa-se j~nAt nahI.n hotA. vikalpa bIchame.n AtA hai, parantu vikalpa- se j~nAt nahI.n hotA, j~nAyak j~nAn-se j~nAt hotA hai.

mumukShuH- salAh denevAlA mithyAdR^iShTi hai use rAgakA hI svabhAv vartatA hai, j~nAyakakA j~nAn nahI.n vartatA, to usakA kaise karanA?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n vartatA hai use prayatna karake jAnanA chAhiye. rAgakA j~nAn usase bhinna hokar, puruShArtha karake svaya.n svasanmukh dishA badalanI chAhiye, to j~nAt hotA hai. anAdikA jo abhyAs hai usame.n chalA jAtA hai. a.ntarame.n dekhatA nahI.n, isaliye mAtra rAgakA j~nAn vartatA hai. sva taraph upayog karake sva taraph muDanA chAhiye, to j~nAt ho. usakI dishA badalanI chAhiye, use palaTanA chAhiye to j~nAt ho.

dishA badalatA nahI.n hai, ek hI dishAme.n chalA jAtA hai. use palaTanA chAhiye. mArga par chalatA huA manuShya UlaTI dishAme.n chalatA ho, vah palaTe to dUsarI dishAme.n muD sakatA hai. gurudevane to bahut batAyA hai. kaun-sI dishA, kis or muDanA vah batAyA, parantu muDanA apane hAthakI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- koI AsAn tarIkA batAIye na.

samAdhAnaH- vah AsAn hI hai. AsAname.n AsAn vah-j~nAn lakShaN-se AtmAko pahachAnanA. vah saral-se saral hai. usame.n bAharakA kuCh karanA nahI.n hotA, yA usame.n kuCh bAhar-se kaShTa karanA yA dUsarA kuCh nahI.n AtA. tere svasanmukh upayog karake, sUkShma dR^iShTi karake a.ntarakI laganI aur mahimA lagAkar tU a.ntarame.n jA. a.ntarame.n dekh, usakA bhedaj~nAn kar ki yah bhinna hai, rAg bhinna aur j~nAn bhinna hai. aisA bhedaj~nAn kar, a.ntar-se nyArA ho jA, vah saral-se saral upAy hai. usakI lagan lagA, mahimA lagA, vah sab kara. vah saral upAy hai.

bAharakA sab hai vah use saral lagA hai. vah to par padArtha hai. use apanA karaneke liye prayatna kiyA to bhI vah apane hote nahI.n. us sarva upAy niShphal hai. vah use saral lagatA hai vah durlabh hai, aur yah apanA saral hai vah use durlabh ho gayA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- jAnanevAlA hai. aisA pUrA jAnanevAlA mai.n hU.N. jo jANakatattva hai pUrA jAnan svabhAv-se bharA hai. jisame.n nahI.n jAnanA aisA kuCh nahI.n hai. aisA jAnanevAlA


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tattva hai vahI mai.n hU.N. yah jaD tattva hai aur yah jAnanevAlA tattva hai. vah jAnanatattva ananta-ananta shakti-se bharA huA, aisA jAnanatattva mai.n hU.N. mAtra vartamAn jAnA utanA nahI.n, parantu akhaNDa jAnanevAlA hai vah mai.n hU.N. pUrNa jAnanevAlA vah mai.n hU.N.

mumukShuH- .. shraddhAme.n nakkI karanA nA?

samAdhAnaH- yah mai.n hI hU.N, aisA shraddhA-se, vichAr-se nakkI karanA. lakShaN pahichAnakar, vichAr karake usakI pratIt-shraddhA kare ki yahI mai.n hU.N, anya kuCh mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aise pratIt to sthUlatA-se kI, parantu a.ntar-se jab pratIt ho tab use andar-se satya grahaN hotA hai. pahale buddhipUrvak vichAr kare, phir a.ntar-se vichAr kare.

mumukShuH- aisA hokar phir ChUT jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vichArapUrvak nakkI kare, abhyAs kare, parantu a.ntar-se jo honA chAhiye, vah svaya.n palaTe to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- us din Apane .. bAt kahI to do-tIn din-se..

samAdhAnaH- svaya.n to bhinna hI hai. abhyAs karanA, ChUT jAy to. anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye bAra.nbAr usame.n chalA jAtA hai. ChUT jAye to bAra.nbAr abhyAs karanA. bAra.nbAr usakI laganI, mahimA, vichAr, bAra.nbAr pratIt karanekA abhyAs bAra.nbAr karanA, ChUT jAy to. ChUT jAy to bAra.nbAr karanA. thakanA nahI.n. bAra.nbAr karanA.

... AchAryadev kahate hai.n, avichChinna dhArA-se bhAnI. kevalaj~nAn ho tabatak bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA j~nAnadashAme.n sahajapane chalatI hai. to pahale usakA abhyAs karanA. vah abhyAs ChUT jAy to bAra.nbAr karanA.

mumukShuH- thoDe samayame.n kyA karanA?

samAdhAnaH- sabako ek hI karanekA hai. AchAryadev kahate hai.n na, AbAlagopAl sabako ek j~nAyak AtmA pahachAnanA hai.

mumukShuH- hamArI to bahut umra ho gayI hai.

samAdhAnaH- bahut sAl sunA hai. bas, vah ek hI karanekA hai. ek j~nAyak AtmAko pahichAnanA vahI karanekA hai. j~nAyak AtmAko pahichAnanA. j~nAyak judA hai aur sharIr judA hai. sab bhinna hai. vibhAv svabhAv apanA nahI.n hai, usase svaya.n bhinna hai. AtmA shAshvat (hai). ye umra Adi sharIrako lAgU paDatA hai, AtmAko kuCh lAgU nahI.n paDatA. AtmA to shAshvat hai. AtmAko pahichAnanA, AtmA j~nAyak hai.

dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA a.ntarame.n aur a.ntarame.n shuddhAtmAko pahichAnanekA prayatna karanA. sabako ek hI karanA hai. ek j~nAyak AtmAko pahichAnanA. mai.n j~nAyakadev bhagavAn AtmA hU.N. mere AtmAme.n hI sarvasva hai. mai.n adabhut AtmA, anupam AtmA Ananda-se bharA,


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j~nAn-se bharA, ananta prabhutA-se bharA mai.n chaitanya hU.N. aisA adabhut tattva mai.n hU.N. sabako ek hI karanA hai. mai.n j~nAyak AtmA jAnanevAlA, shAshvat AtmA hU.N. sharIrakI koI bhI avasthA ho, vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n usase bhinna hU.N. mai.n chaitanya svarUp AtmA shAshvat hU.N.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!