Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 255.

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mumukShuH- ... ek-ek shakti ananta shaktiyo.nme.n vyApak ... ek-ek shakti ananta shaktiyo.nme.n nimitta hai. to .. spaShTa samajhAIye.

samAdhAnaH- AtmA akhaNDa hai to usame.n ananta shakti ekadUsareme.n vyApak hai. AtmAkI shakti hai. AtmA akhaNDa ek dravya, ek dravya AtmA hai ek dravya hai, usame.n ananta shakti hai. to pratyek shaktikA svabhAv bhinna-bhinna hai. isaliye bhinna-bhinna kahaneme.n AtA hai. parantu pratyek AtmAme.n hai. bhinna-bhinna, judA-judA dravya nahI.n hai. pratyek shakti, ananta shakti ek AtmAme.n hai. isaliye abhinna hai. pratyek shakti pratyekame.n vyApak hai. ek dravyame.n sab hai. ekame.n ananta shakti hai. isaliye ananta dharmAtmak vastu, ananta shaktiyo.n-se bharapUr AtmA akhaNDa abhinna hai.

pratyek shaktikA svabhAv bhinna-bhinna hai. isaliye bhinna-bhinna kahaneme.n AtA hai. apekShA- se bhinna aur apekShA-se abhinna hai. j~nAn j~nAn, darshan, chAritra Adi saba. j~napti, darshi shakti Adi AtI hai na? sab ekadUsareme.n vyApak hai. to bhI sabakA svabhAv bhinna- bhinna hai. isaliye svabhAv apekShA-se bhinna-bhinna hai.n. ek dravyakI apekShA-se abhinna hai.

dR^iShTi akhaNDa par jAy to ek akhaNDa AtmAko grahaN karatI hai. usame.n ananta shakti A jAtI hai. ananta dharmAtmak vastu ek chaitanya j~nAyakako grahaN kare to usame.n ananta shakti A jAtI hai. bhinna-bhinna dR^iShTi nahI.n karanI paDatI hai. AtmA ananta svabhAv- se bharapUr hai. aisI mahimA j~nAn sab jAn letA hai.

mumukShuH- gurudev aisA bhI lete the ki ek guName.n ananta guNakA rUp hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah to chaitanya akhaNDa hai, isaliye ekadUsarekA ekadUsareme.n rUp hai. bAkI vah charchA to bahut bAr gurudev samakSha chalatI thI.

mumukShuH- j~nAname.n sat-astitvapanA, j~nAname.n astipanA aisA kahakar astitvaguNakA rUp usame.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, usame.n hai. ek astitva guN hai to j~nAn astitva, chAritra astitva is prakAr paraspar ekadUsareme.n rUp hai. j~nAn bhI astitvarUp hai, chAritra astitvarUp hai, bal bhI astitvarUp hai. j~nAn bhI balavAn hai, j~nAn bhI sAmAnya, visheSh hai. is prakAr


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j~nAname.n, darshaname.n. abhed hai isaliye ekadUsarekA ekadUsareme.n rUp hai. j~nAname.n Ananda hai, j~nAn AnandarUp hai. Ananda guN bhinna bhI hai, parantu j~nAname.n Ananda hai. Anandame.n j~nAn hai.

mumukShuH- amuk spaShTIkaraN gurudev karate the aur amuk spaShTIkaraN karaneme.n aisA kahate the, aisA .. ghaTit hotA hai, parantu aise nahI.n ghaTatA hai. aise dono.n prakAr-se bAt karate the.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisA kahate the. usame.n sAdhanAme.n to dR^iShTi ek AtmA par kare, usame.n sab A jAtA hai. AtmA kaisA shaktivAn? kaisA ananta mahimAva.nt, ananta dharmAtmak kaisA hai, vah jAnaneke liye (AtA hai). usakI mahimA, AtmA kaisA mahimAva.nt hai, vah jAnaneke liye hai. ananta guNo.n-se bharA huA, anantame.n anantakA rUp hai. ananta anantarUp pariNamatA hai. usakI mahimA kaisI hai (vah jAnaneke liye hai).

vah pustakame.n AtA hai. ekadUsarekA ekadUsareme.n rUp hai. ek pradesh is rUp, is rUp, aise usakI mahimA, ek chaitanyakI mahimA (karanI hai).

mumukShuH- chidavilAsame.n dIpachandajI (kahate hai.n).

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, chidavilAsame.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- gurudev bAra.nbAr AdhAr dete the.

samAdhAnaH- achi.ntya shaktivAn AtmA, kaisA chaitanya dravya hai. usame.n buddhi-se kAm karane jAy to amuk yukti-se baiThe, bAkI to svAnubhav gamya hai. amuk yukti-se baiThe ki ananta guName.n anantakA rUp hai. anantame.n ek Anandaras vede, yah vede, vah vede, aisA karake kitane prakAr liye hai.n.

achi.ntya dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp hai. aur chetanakA svarUp kaisA mahimAva.nt hai, vah usame.n jAnanA hai. apUrvatA bhAse ki AtmA kaisA mahimAva.nt hai. agurulaghukI bAtame.n aisA hai. vah agurulaghu svabhAv kaisA hai! hAnivR^iddhi rUp pariNamatA hone par bhI jyo.nkA tyo.n hai. vAstavik hAnivR^iddhi nahI.n hotI, usame.n tAratamyatAme.n jyo.nkA tyo.n rahatA hai, usakI pariNaman shakti kaisI hai! ananta anantarUp pariName phir bhI jyo.nkA tyo.n. to bhI usame.n kuCh kam nahI.n hotA, kuCh baDhatA nahI.n. phir bhI pariNaman us prakAr hAni-vR^iddhirUp hotA hai.

mumukShuH- vah bhI gurudev bAdame.n kevalIgamya kahakar nikAl dete the.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kevalIgamya kahate the. tattvakA svarUp kaisA sUkShma svarUp hai! kevalIke kevalaj~nAname.n Aye. chetanAguName.n j~nAn-darshan koI apekShA-se kahaneme.n AtA hai. aur j~nAn-darshan guNako alag bhI kahate hai.n. chetanAguNake andar sAmAnya aur visheSh dono.n sAthame.n (kahate hai.n). koI apekShA-se j~nAn, darshanako alag kahaneme.n AtA hai.


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mumukShuH- nirNay yathArtha hai, vah kaise mAlUm karanA? yathArtha nirNayame.n aisA kyA hotA hai ki jo anubhavako lAtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- pahale jo buddhipUrvak nirNay hotA hai, vah gurudevane jo apUrva mArga batAyA, usakA nirNay vah ruchi-se sthUlatA-se karatA hai vah alag hai. a.ntar-se jo nirNay karatA hai, vah nirNay svaya.nko hI khyAlame.n A jAtA hai ki yah nirNay aisA yathArtha hai ki usake pIChe avashya svAnubhUti hogI. vah svabhAvako pahachAnakar a.ntarame.n nirNay hotA hai ki ye jo chaitanya svabhAv hai vah mai.n hU.N, yah j~nAyak svabhAv hai vah mai.n hU.N, yah vibhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N.

usakA svabhAv, andar-se apanA bhAv-svabhAv pahachAnakar nirNay hotA hai. vah nirNay aisA hotA hai ki use khyAl AtA hai ki yah kAraN aisA hai ki avashya kArya AnevAlA hai. vikalpa-se a.nshataH bhinna hokar, svAnubhUtikI bAt alag hai, parantu use a.ntar-se aisI pratIt hotI hai ki yah j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N. yah vibhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N. ye jo shAshvat chaitanya svabhAv, usakA astitva use yathArthapane a.ntarame.n-se grahaN ho jAtA hai. vah bhale hI abhI nirvikalpa nahI.n hai, to bhI buddhime.n use aisA grahaN ho jAtA hai.

bAkI sthUlatA-se nirNay kare vah alag bAt hai. svaya.nko ruchi ho ki mArga yahI hai, dUsarA mArga nahI.n hai, yah vastu koI apUrva hai. aisI ruchi ho vah alag bAt hai. parantu a.ntarame.n-se jo nirNay hotA hai vah svabhAvako pahichAnakar hotA hai ki ye jo chaitanya j~nAyak hai, jitanA yah j~nAn hai utanA hI mai.n hU.N, yah vibhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aisA a.ntarame.n-se use nirNay hotA hai. aur bAra.nbAr use usakI dR^iDhatA hotI hai. bAra.nbAr usakI pariNati us taraph muDatI hai ki yah hai vahI mai.n hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. is prakAr use svabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay hotA hai.

jo svabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay hotA hai, usake pIChe use avashya svAnubhUti hue binA nahI.n rahatI. usakA a.ntar hI kah detA hai ki yah nirNay aisA hai ki yah svabhAv- j~nAyak svabhAv hI mai.n hU.N, dUsarA kuCh mai.n nahI.n hU.N. ye nirvikalpa svabhAv hai vahI mai.n hU.N. usakI lInatAkI kShatike kAraN abhI nirvikalpa honeme.n der lagatI hai. to bhI vah nirNay aisA hotA hai ki avashya usame.n use svAnubhUti hue binA nahI.n rahatI.

mati-shrutaj~nAnakI buddhi jo bAhar jA rahI thI. vah svaya.n apanA nirNay karatA hai ki yah j~nAnasvabhAv hai vahI mai.n hU.N. anya kuCh mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aisA nirNay karake phikShar apanI taraph, upayog apanI taraph muDakar usame.n lInatA kare to svAnubhUti hotI hai. pahale j~nAnasvabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay kare ki yah jo j~nAn hai vahI mai.n hU.N.


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shAstrame.n aisA AtA hai, gurudev bhI aisA hI kahate the ki yathArtha nirNay, yathArtha kAraN ho to yathArtha kArya Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. aisA shuddhAtmAkA a.ntarame.n-se use nirNay hotA hai. usakA a.ntar hI kah detA hai ki isame.n avashya svAnubhUti hogI hI.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! ApakA vajan svabhAvako pahichAnakar nirNay ho, vah yathArtha nirNay hai. aisA ApakA vajan AyA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, svabhAvako pahichAnakar nirNay hotA hai ki yah j~nAn hai vahI mai.n hU.N. ye vibhAv hai vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aisA buddhi-se sthUlatA-se ho vah alag hai, parantu a.ntarame.n-se use grahaN karake nirNay hotA hai ki yah svabhAv hai vahI mai.n hU.N. a.ntarame.n-se bhAv grahaN karatA hai.

mumukShuH- aisA yathArtha nirNay ho, use anubhUti usake pIChe AtI hI hai?

samAdhAnaH- usake pIChe AtI hI hai. phir usame.n kitanA kAl lage usakA niyam nahI.n hai, parantu avashya hotI hI hai. (kyo.nki) usakA kAraN yathArtha hai.

mumukShuH- svabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay ho, vah yathArtha nirNay hai. yah bAt Apane bahut sundar kahI.

samAdhAnaH- svabhAvako pahachAnakar nirNay hotA hai ki yah j~nAnasvabhAv hai vahI mai.n hU.N, anya kuCh mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mati aur shrut dvArA vah nirNay karatA hai. phikShar mati- shrutakA upayog jo bAhar pravartatA hai, use a.ntarame.n lAye aur lInatA ho to nirvikalpa hotA hai. parantu pahale usakA yathArtha nirNay hotA hai.

mumukShuH- svabhAvakA yathArtha nirNay hone-se pahale kyA hotA hogA?

samAdhAnaH- pahale to use svabhAv taraph muDanekI ruchi hotI hai ki AtmAkA svabhAv koI apUrva hai. karane jaisA yahI hai. ye sab vibhAv hai. aisI ruchi a.ntarame.n rahatI hai ki mArga yahI hai. gurudevane batAyA vah ek hI mArga hai, dUsarA nahI.n hai. aisA usane sthUl buddhi-se sthUlatA-se nirNay kiyA hotA hai. parantu svabhAvako pahichAnakar a.ntarame.n-se nirNay hotA hai, vah nirNay abhI nahI.n hotA, parantu ruchi us taraphakI hotI hai. mArgakI ruchi hotI hai. usake pahale bhI koI apUrva ruchi hotI hai. parantu vah ruchi hotI hai.

mumukShuH- jabatak svabhAvakI pahichAn nahI.n hotI hai tabatakakA nirNay sachchA nirNay hI nahI.n hai. svabhAvako pahichAnakar jabatak nirNay hotA, tabatak to vah nirNay nirNay nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah nirNay nahI.n hai. yathArtha kAraN pragaT nahI.n huA hai. .. aisA hai ki jise koI apUrva ruchi ho to avashya vah ruchi us taraph jAtI


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hai. apUrva ruchi ho to. parantu use vartamAname.n koI sa.ntuShTatA ho jAy, aisA vah nirNay nahI.n hai. vartamAn sa.ntoSh kab Ave? svabhAvako pahichAnakar nirNay ho to. bAkI ruchi hotI hai use. a.ntarame.n-se apUrva ruchi hotI hai ki mArga yahI hai. yah puruShArtha karane par hI ChUTakArA hai aur yahI karanA hai. aisI ruchi hotI hai.

mumukShuH- ... aisA pudagal aur amUrta aisA jIv, usakA sa.nyog kaisA hai?

samAdhAnaH- anAdikA hai. rUpI aur arUpI. AtA hai na? grahe arUpI rUpIne e acharajanI vAta. AtmA to arUpI hai. ye to rUpI hai. parantu vibhAvaparyAy aisI hotI hai ki jis kAraN rUpI aur arUpIkA sambandha hotA hai. aisA vastukA svabhAv hai. dono.n virodhI svabhAv hone par bhI anAdikA usakA sambandha hai. virUddha svabhAv hone par bhI anAdi-se usakA sambandha chalA A rahA hai. use vibhAvik bhAvake kAraN vah sambandha hotA hai.

mumukShuH- use kam karaneke liye kuCh...?

samAdhAnaH- anAdikA vah hai.

mumukShuH- use kam kaise karanA? abhAv kaise karanA?

samAdhAnaH- usakA upAy yah hai ki svaya.n apane svabhAvako pahachAnanA, to vah sambandha ChUTe. apane svabhAv taraph jAy, arUpIko grahaN kare aur rUpI taraphakI dR^iShTi, rUpI taraph jo ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai use toD de aur arUpI jo chaitanyasvabhAv hai, us or usakI prIti, usakI ruchi ho tab ho.

gurudev to bAra.nbAr kahate the ki tU bhinna hai, yah sharIr bhinna hai, ye vibhAv terA svabhAv nahI.n hai, tU andar shAshvat hai. koI bhedabhAv bhI terA mUl svarUp nahI.n hai. aisA bAra.nbAr kahate the. unakA upadesh to andar jamAvaT ho jAy aisA upadesh thA, parantu pariNati to svaya.nko palaTanI hai, puruShArtha svaya.nko karanA hai. svaya.n dishA na badale to kyA ho? dishA bAhya dR^iShTi vah svaya.n hI rakhatA hai. andar apUrvatA lage, ruchi kare to bhI pariNati to svaya.nko palaTanI hai. svaya.nko hI karanA paDatA hai.

mumukShuH- ruchi to svaya.n kare, phir bhI pariNati palaTe nahI.n to ruchi...? samAdhAnaH- use apanI mandatA hai. ruchikI mandatA. ugra ruchi ho to pariNati palaTe binA rahe nahI.n. parantu ruchikI mandatA hai. aisI ruchi ho ki bAharame.n use kahI.n chain paDe nahI.n. aisI ruchi andar ugra ho to svaya.n puruShArtha kiye binA nahI.n rahatA.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!