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mumukShuH- vah lInatA to chaubIso.n ghaNTe chalatI hogI. ugratA baDh jAy..

samAdhAnaH- chaubIso.n ghaNTe.n unakI bhUmikA anusAr hotA hai. jo unakI samyagdarshan sambandhit lInatA ho vah chaubIso.n ghaNTe (hotI hai). unakI visheSh lInatA, tAratamyatA unake puruShArtha anusAr hotI hai. bhUmikA palaTe vah lInatA visheSh hotI hai. pA.NchavA, ChaThavA.N, sAtavA.N vah lInatA unakI alag hotI hai. a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n svAnubhUtime.n pravesh karate hai.n. a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n vikalpa ChUTakar svAnubhUtime.n jAte hai.n. usakI lInatA ekadam ugra hotI hai. khAte-pIte, nidrAme.n a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n svAnubhUtime.n pravesh ho jAtA hai. bAhar rah nahI.n sakate hai.n. a.ntarmuhUrta-se jyAdA bAhar rah hI nahI.n sakate hai.n. itanA apane svarUpame.n ekadam pravesh ho jAtA hai. lInatAkA pravesh ho jAtA hai.

dR^iShTi eva.n j~nAn to pragaT hai hI, parantu ye lInatA-chAritra dashA baDhatI hai ChaThave.n- sAtave.n guNasthAname.n. chaturtha guNasthAname.n svarUpAcharaN chAritra hotA hai. pA.Nchave.n guNasthAname.n usase visheSh hotI hai. pA.Nchave guNasthAnakI bhUmikAke sTej amuk-amuk baDhate jAte hai.n. usame.n use svarUpakI lInatA baDhatI jAtI hai. us anusAr usake shubh pariNAmame.n bAharake sTejame.n bhI pheraphAr hotA jAtA hai. a.ntarame.n svAnubhUtikI dashA baDhatI jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- muni mahArAjako khAte-pIte, chalate-phirate aisI dashA ho jAy, vaise chaturtha guNasthAname.n koI bAr hotI hogI?

samAdhAnaH- koI bAr ho, usakA niyam nahI.n hai. ChaThave.n-sAtave.nme.n to niyamase hotI hai. svarUpAcharaN chAritrame.n aisA ho, parantu vah niyamit nahI.n hotI. inhe.n to a.ntarmuhUrta- a.ntarmuhUrtame.n niyamit hotI hai. chaturtha guNasthAnakI lInatA kab visheSh baDh jAy, hotI hI nahI.n aisA nahI.n hai, lekin usakA niyam nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- dhyAname.n baiThe tabhI nirvikalpa dashA ho, aisA nahI.n hotA chaturta guNasthAname.n?

samAdhAnaH- dhyAname.n bAhar-se baiThe yA na baiThe. koI bAr bAhar-se baiThe aur ho. koI bAr na baiThe to a.ntarame.n amuk prakArakA dhyAn to use pragaT ho hI gayA hai. jo j~nAtAkA astitva usane grahaN kiyA hai, j~nAyakakI dhArA vartatI hai, utanI ekAgratA to use chAlU hI hai. isaliye us prakArakA dhyAn to use hai hI. dhyAn arthAt ekAgratA.

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us jAtakI ekAgratA use ChUTatI hI nahI.n. amuk prakArakI ekAgratA to use hai. us ekAgratAme.n kuCh visheShatA ho jAy to use bAhar-se dhyAname.n baiThe to hI ho, aisA niyam lAgU nahI.n paDatA.

mumukShuH- aisA bandhan nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- aisA bandhan nahI.n hai ki bAhar-se sharIr dhyAname.n baiThe, aisA bandhan nahI.n hai. sharIr baiTh jAy aisA bandhan nahI.n hai. a.ntarame.n ekAgratA (hotI hai). amuk ekAgratA to hai hI, parantu visheSh ekAgratA kab baDh jAy, sharIr baiThA ho aisA ho to hI baDhe aisA nyAy nahI.n hai. muniko to hai hI nahI.n, parantu chaturtha guNasthAname.n aisA niyam nahI.n hai. sab bAr aisA niyam nahI.n hotA. koI bAr aisA bhI banatA hai ki dhyAname.n baiThA ho tab ho. bAhar-se dhyAname.n baiThA ho. koI bAr koI bhI sthitime.n sharIr ho aur dhyAn ho jAya. bAharakA bandhan nahI.n hai. amuk prakAr-se sahaj dashA ho jAtI hai.

anAdikA sarva pratham ho use palaTaneme.n thoDI mushkilI hotI hai, kisIko a.ntarmuhUrtame.n bhI ho jAtA hai. usame.n bhI a.ntarmuhUrtame.n ho jAtA hai. phir to usakI dashA sahaj hai. isaliye bAharame.n amuk prakAr-se baiThe to hI ho, aisA bandhan nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- ek bAr nirvikalpa dashA ho gayI isaliye amuk kAl rAh dekhanI paDe aisA nahI.n hotA na? phirase turanta bhI ho sakatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- rAh dekhanI nahI.n paDatI. jisakI a.ntar dashA chAlU hai, jise bhedaj~nAnakI dashA chAlU hai, use amuk samayame.n hue binA rahatI hI nahI.n. use samayakA bandhan nahI.n hai. use amuk samayame.n hue binA nahI.n rahatI. jise a.ntarakI dashA hai, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA vartatI hI hai, use hue binA nahI.n rahatI.

jo a.ntar-se bhinna paD gayA, jisakA upayog bAhar gayA, vah amuk samayame.n a.ntarame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. us upayogame.n bAhar kuCh sarvasva nahI.n hai. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA to vartatI hI hai. svaya.n judA-nyArA vartatA hai, kShaN-kShaName.n nyArA vartatA hai. nyArI pariNati to hai hI. upayog to palaT jAtA hai. jaisI pariNati hai vaisA upayog vApas hue binA nahI.n rahatA. pariNati alag kAm karatI hai, upayog bAhar jAtA hai.

pariNatikI Dor use-upayogako vApas lAye binA nahI.n rahatI. pariNati to nyArI hai. bhedaj~nAnarUp bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA nira.ntar kShaN-kShaName.n vikalpake bIch usakI nyArI Dor kShaN-kShaName.n sahajarUp hai. pariNatikI Dor nyArI hai, vah upayogako vahA.N Tikane nahI.n detI. amuk samayame.n upayog vApas A hI jAtA hai. svarUpame.n lIn hue binA, nirvikalpa dashA hue binA use nahI.n rahatI. pariNati upayogako vApas apaneme.n lAtI hai.

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mumukShuH- j~nAnIkI savikalpa dashA itanI majabUt hai ki nirvikalpa upayogakI lAchArI karanI nahI.n paDatI, vah apaneAp hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- usakI lAchArI nahI.n karanI paDatI. usakI dashA hI aisI hai. use shAnti aur hU.Nph hai hI. apanI dashA hI aisI hai. svaya.n kahI.n ekatvabuddhi-se vartatA nahI.n hai. bhinna hI vartatA hai. usakI nyArI pariNati hI us upayogako vApas lAtI hai. vah upayog bAhar la.nbe samay bAhar Tik nahI.n pAtA. vah upayog apane svarUpame.n phir-se lIn hue binA nahI.n rahatA. usakI nyArI pariNati hI use vApas lAtI hai. usakI lAchArI nahI.n karanI paDatI.

svaya.nko apanI hU.Nph hai. apanI pariNati hI us upayogako vApas lAtI hai. use aisA nahI.n hai ki nirvikalpa dashA kab AyegI? usakI rAh dekhakar baiThanA nahI.n hai. usakI use koI sha.nkA nahI.n hotI. pariNati hI us upayogako vApas khI.Nchakar lAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- pariNati joradAr hotI hai to nirvikalpa dashA ho jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAnIko to chaubIso.n ghaNTe avalamban hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- chaubIso.n ghaNTe Atma svabhAvakA avalamban hai. usakA upayog bAhar ekamek hotA hI nahI.n. upayog bAhar jAye to bhI bhinna hI hai. vah vApas svarUpame.n jame binA nahI.n rahatA. usakI ruchi use vApas (le AtI hai), usakI pariNati use vApas lAtI hai. aisA sahajapane hai.

mumukShuH- chyUt ho jAtA hai, usakA kyA kAraN?

samAdhAnaH- usakI pariNatime.n dikkat hai, usakA puruShArtha ChUT jAtA hai, usakI nyArI pariNati ChUT jAtI hai. ekatvabuddhi ho jAtI hai. j~nAyak bhinna, vibhAv bhinna vah pariNati jo j~nAtAkI dhArA kShaN-kShaName.n A.nshik j~nAtAdhArA, A.nshik shAntidhArA (chalatI rahatI hai). AtmAkI svAnubhUtikA Ananda alag hai. bAkI a.ntarame.n jo nyArI shAntidhArA aur j~nAyakadhArA thI, usakI pariNati ChUT jAtI hai. usakI pariNati ekamek ho jAtI hai. isaliye svAnubhUti chalI jAtI hai. vartamAn pariNati ChUTakar ekatvabuddhi ho jAtI hai. pariNati palaT jAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAn-se rachit ek chaitanya vastu hI hai. j~nAn bAhar-se nahI.n AtA hai. vah jAnanevAlI pUrI vastu hI hai. dravya jAnanevAlA, usakA guN jAnanevAlA, usakI paryAyame.n jAnanevAlA, sarva prakAr-se vah jAnanevAlA hI hai, aisI ek vastu hI hai. jaise yah jaD hai, vah jaD kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. vah svaya.n jAnatA hI nahI.n hai. tab ek jAnanevAlI vastu hai ki sarva prakAr-se jAnanevAlI hI hai.

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uShNatA bAhar-se nahI.n AtI hai, agni svaya.n hI uShNa hai. barpha svaya.n hI ThaNDA hai. usakI ThaNDak bAhar-se nahI.n AtI. vaise jAnanA bAhar-se nahI.n AtA hai, jAnanevAlI vastu hI svaya.n hai. usame.n bAharake sab nimitta hai.n. ise jAnA, use jAnA. jAnanevAlI vastu svaya.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... AtmAko j~nAnake sAth ekamek sambandha hai. j~nAn binAkA AtmA nahI.n hai, AtmA binAkA j~nAn nahI.n hai. tAdAtmya sambandha hai. aise ananta guN hai.n. j~nAn, darshan, chAritra, astitva, vastutva sabake sAth, dravyako sabake sAth aisA tAdAtmya sambandha hai. ananta guN-se bharA huA, ananta guNasvarUp hI dravya hai. ananta guN AtmAme.n ekamek hai.n. jaDame.n bhI vaise astitva, vastutva ityAdi jo jaDake-pudagalake varNa, gandha, ras, sparsha sab ekamek tAdAtmya hai. usame.n-se kuCh alag nahI.n paDatA. ekameek hai.

mumukShuH- dravyako aur guNo.nko ekamek sambandha hai na? guNako aur guNako bhI aisA sambandha hai? jaise Apane kahA ki dravya aur guNakA tAdAtmyasiddha sambandha ~Nai. vaise ek guNako bAkIke ananta guN jo hai.n, usake sAth tAdAtmyasiddha sambandha nahI.n hai?

samAdhAnaH- usakA lakShaNabhed-se bhed hai. sabakA lakShaN bhinna paDatA hai. bAkI vastutaH sab ek hai. parantu usake lakShaN alag hai.n. j~nAnakA lakShaN jAnanA, darshanakA dekhanekA, pratIt karanA, chAritrakA lakShaN lInatAkA, AnandakA Ananda svarUp, isaprakAr sabake lakShaN bhinna-bhinna hai.n. dravya apekShA-se sab ekamek hai.n. bAkI ekadUsareke lakShaN apekShA-se usake bhed hai.n. vastubhed nahI.n hai, parantu lakShaN apekShA-se bhed hai.n. usake lakShaN alag, usake kArya alaga. j~nAnakA jAnanekA kArya, darshanakA dekhanekA, chAritrakA lInatAkA, sabakA kArya kArya apekShA-se bhinna-bhinna hai. vastu apekShA-se ek hai.

mumukShuH- jab j~nAnaguN j~nAnaguNakA kAm kare, us vakta kartA guN kyA karatA hai? (jaise) j~nAn karatA hai, vaise kartA nAmakA guN hai, vah kyA karatA hogA?

samAdhAnaH- vah kartA svaya.n kArya karatA hai. j~nAn jAnanekA kArya kare to kartAguN us rUp pariNaman karake usakA kArya lAnekA kAm karatA hai. j~nAn jAnatA hai to usame.n pariNaman karake jo jAnanekA kArya hotA hai, vah jAnanekA kArya vah kartAguN kahalAtA hai. kArya karatA hai. kartAguName.n.. kartA, kriyA aur karma. vah kartAkI pariNati hai.

mumukShuH- ye jo Apane sambandha kahA, vah nimitta-naimittik sambandha nahI hai? ekarUpatA rUp sambandha hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ekarUp sambandha hai, parantu usame.n lakShaNabhed hai, kAryabhed hai. nimitta- naimittik nahI.n hai. nimitta-naimittik to do dravyame.n hotA hai, ye to ek hI dravya hai.

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ek dravyake andar lakShaNabhed aur kAryabhed Adi hai.

mumukShuH- ... rakhaneke liye kahA hogA yA ... na ho jAy isaliye guN isaprakAr hai? svata.ntratA batAneke liye.

samAdhAnaH- pratyek vastu svata.ntra hI hai.n. parantu guNo.nkI svata.ntratA hai. parantu vastu- se ek hai. usame.n anyatva bhed hai, parantu usame.n vastubhed nahI.n hai. paraspar ekadUsare- se lakShaN-se bhinna paDate hai.n, parantu vastu apekShA-se ek hai.n. vah svata.ntratA aisA nahI.n hai, ek dravya jaise dUsare dravya-se svata.ntra hai, jaise pudagal aur chaitanya svata.ntra hai, do dravya atya.nt bhinna hai.n, vaise guN aur dravya, pratyek guN-guN us prakAr-se atya.nt bhinna nahI.n hai.n. vastu-se ek hai aur lakShaN-se bhinna hai.n. usakI bhinnatA atya.nt bhinnatA nahI.n hai. pratyek guNo.nkI atya.nt bhinnatA nahI.n hai. vastu apekShA-se ek hai, parantu lakShaN- se bhinna hai.n.

mumukShuH- anyonya bhed huA?

samAdhAnaH- anyonya arthAt lakShaN-se bhinna hai.n. usakI svata.ntratA... ek dravya- se dUsarA dravya svata.ntra hai, vaise pratyek gaN us prakAr-se svata.ntra nahI.n hai.n. usakI svata.ntratA lakShaN tak hai aur kArya tak hai. bAkI vastu apekShA-se vah sab ek hai. ek hI vastuke sab guN hai.n. ananta guN-se banI ek vastu hai. ananta guNasvarUp hI ek vastu hai. vastu apekShA-se ek hai, lakShaN apekShA-se bhinna-bhinna hai. ek dravyake andar ananta shaktiyA.N-ananta guN hai.n. sabake kArya sab karate hai.n aur sabake lakShaN, kArya eva.n prayojan bhinna-bhinna hai. vah svata.ntratA us jAtakI hai ki dravyakI svata.ntratA hai aisI svata.ntratA nahI.n hai.

vah to, jaise sarvaguNA.nsh so samyagdarshana. samyagdarshanakA guN pragaT ho, dR^iShTi vibhAv taraph, dR^iShTi par taraph thI aur sva taraph dR^iShTi jAtI hai (to) samyagdarshan guN pragaT hotA hai. to un sabakA avinAbhAvI sambandha aisA hai ki ek samyagdarshan pragaT ho to usake sAth sarvaguNA.nsh so samyagdarshan (hotA hai). sarva guNakI shuddhi A.nshik hotI hai. sarva guNakI dishA badalakar apanI taraph pariNati hotI hai. ananta guNakI dishA badalakar shuddharUp pariNati hotI hai. ekakI shuddha hotI hai sab shuddhatArUp pariNamate hai.n. aisA sambandha hai. kyo.nki vastu ek hai isaliye.

ek samyagdarshan pragaT huA to usame.n j~nAn bhI samyak huA. chAritra bhI, mithyAchAritra thA to chAritra bhI samyak huA. sab guNakI dishA badal gayI. kyo.nki ek vastuke sab guN hai. aisA usakA ho to dUsare guNakI pariNati badal jAtI hai. aisA avinAbhAvI ekadUsareke sAth sambandha hai.

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samAdhAnaH- ... pachchIs sAl honeme.n kahA.N der lagegI? kyo.n andar kuCh hotA nahI.n? kyo.n paribhramaNakI thakAn lagatI nahI.n? kyo.n kapakapI hotI nahI.n? aisA hotA thA. anek jAtakA hotA thA. andarame.n jo svaya.nne kiyA hai, vah apanA hai, bAkI kAl to chalA jA rahA hai. devalokakA sAgaropamakA kAl bhI pUrA ho jAtA hai, to is manuShya bhavakA kAl to kyA hisAbame.n hai?

is pa.nchamakAlame.n gurudev mile aur gurudevane jo upadeshakI jamAvaT kI, vahI yAd karane jaisA hai aur usame.n-se grahaN karane jaisA hai. upadesh kyA? gurudevane itanA upadesh barasAyA. jise grahaN karake a.ntarame.n jamAvaT karanI, aisA upadesh diyA hai. jaise bhagavAnakI divyadhvanikI varShA hotI hai, vaise gurudevakI (vANIkI) varShA huyI hai. dono.n vakta niyamarUp se.

jahA.N gA.Nv-gA.Nvame.n saurAShTrame.n kahI.n mandir nahI.n thA, har jagah mandir ban gaye. shAstra utane prakAshit hue. kitane hI bhaNDArame.n the sab bAhar A gaye.

mumukShuH- Tep bhar gayI.

samAdhAnaH- Tep bhar gayI.

mumukShuH- yahA.N sunate hai.n to aisA lagatA hai ki mAno.n gurudev sAkShAt virAjate ho.n aisA hI lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakA yah kShetra, dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv aur Tep sab aisA hai. vah sthAn aur vah Tep yahA.N bajatI hai vah alag hai, vah sthAn, gurudev jahA.N baiThate the vah pAT, kShetra Adi sab vah, isaliye mAno.n gurudev bolate ho aisA lage. Tep bole usake sAth ....

kaise samajhame.n Aye, aisA vichAr Aye na. sahaj jo andarame.n lagatA ho vah sahaj AtA hai. kuCh shAstrakA ho, lekin gurudevane shAstro.nkA artha karaneme.n kahA.N kuCh bAkI rakhA hai. gurudevane bahut diyA hai.

mumukShuH- ... samAdhAnaH- padmana.ndI jab paDhate the, tab aisA hI paDhate the. padmana.ndIme.n jinendra bhagavAnakA adhikAr jab Ave, tab aisA hI paDhate the. dAnakA adhikAr Aye tab aisA paDhate. he jinendra! aisA kahakar paDhate the. Tepame.n AyA thA na? mAtA! ApakA putra hamArA svAmI hai. mAtA! jatan karake rakhanA. ... indrANI bhagavAnako lene AtI hai, tab vah bAt AtI thI. hR^iday-se bolate the. sabakA kalejA kA.Np UThe, aise kahate the. vah bhakti adhikAr paDhe, dAn adhikAr paDhe.... (tab aisA hI AtA thA).