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samAdhAnaH- laganI lagI ho to (puruShArtha) utpanna hotA hai. a.ntarame.n utanI laganI chAhiye, utanI ruchi chAhiye. yahI karanA hai. usIkI laganI bAra.nbAr yah lagatA rahe ki mai.n chaitanya j~nAyak hU.N. j~nAyakakI pariNati hI pragaT karane jaisA hai. utanI andar lagan lage to puruShArtha utpanna hotA hai. ruchi manda ho, bAharame.n juDatA rahe to usakA puruShArtha utpanna nahI.n hotA hai. laganI lage to hI utpanna hotA hai. gurudevane to bahut kahA hai, mArga batAyA hai. karanekA svaya.nko hai. pariNatiko kaise palaTanA, vah apane hAthakI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- ham bhAIo.n to Apake pAs jyAdA nahI.n baiTh sakate hai.n. parantu hamAre bhAgya-se hame.n.n paNDitajI achChe mil gaye hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- (gurudev-se) bahut milA hai. svaya.nko sirpha puruShArtha hI karanA bAkI hai. gurudev-se sabane jAn liyA hai. aur gurudevane hI sab mArga batAyA hai. sab log bAhya kriyAo.nme.n kahA.N paDe the. a.ntar dR^iShTi gurudevane karavAyI ki a.ntarame.n dekh, a.ntarame.n hI mArga hai. svAnubhUtikA mArga gurudevane batAyA.

mumukShuH- vibhAvame.n rAg hI lenA yA dUsare guN bhI Ate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- vibhAvamAtra arthAt vibhAvame.n jitane jo bhAv Aye vah saba. vibhAvame.n sab kaShAy, nokaShAy vibhAvame.n A jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- paryAyamAtra-se bhinna aise lenA yA sirpha vibhAv-se bhinne aise lenA?

samAdhAnaH- paryAyamAtra yAnI vibhAv paryAy-se. svabhAv paryAy jitanA svaya.n nahI.n hai, parantu svabhAv paryAy-se sarvathA bhinna hai aisA nahI.n lenA. svaya.n apaneApako grahaN karatA hai. paryAy-se katha.nchit (bhinna). svabhAv paryAy to apanI pariNati hai. usase sarvathA bhinna nahI.n le sakate. paryAy svabhAv taraph jAy aur apaneko grahaN karatI hai.

mumukShuH- vibhAvake vikR^it guNo.nme.n sarvathA bhinna?

samAdhAnaH- usame.n to sarvathA bhinna. ashuddha pariNati apane puruShArthakI mandatA- se hotI hai, parantu vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. isaliye vibhAv pariNati-se sarvathA bhinna (lenA). paradravyake nimitta-se honevAle jo bhAv hai, un sabase sarvathA bhinna hai. dravyakarma, bhAvakarma, nokarma sabase bhinna hai.

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svaya.n anAdiananta shAshva dravya hai. usame.n kShayopasham bhAv, sab adhUrI-pUrNa paryAye.n, vah sab paryAy apaneme.n (hotI hai). anAdiananta apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai isaliye use koI apekShA-se bhinna kahaneme.n AtA hai. parantu vah sarvathA bhinna aise nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- dravyame.n to rAg aur vibhAv, ashuddhi-se bhinna, ...?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ashuddhi-se bhinna. dravyadR^iShTi kare, apane svabhAvako grahaN kare, vahA.N shAshvat dravyako grahaN karatA hai. isaliye usame.n guNabhed, paryAyabhed sab usame.n-se nikal jAtA hai. parantu j~nAname.n vah samajhatA hai ki ye guNakA bhed, lakShaNabhed (hai). paryAy jo pragaT ho vah mere svabhAvakI paryAy hai. aise j~nAname.n grahaN karatA hai.R^idR^iShTime.n usake guNabhed par vah aTakatA nahI.n. dR^iShTi ek shAshvat dravyako grahaN karatA hai. grahaN kare to usame.n-se pragaT ho. jo usame.n svabhAv hai, vah svabhAv paryAy pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. mai.n ashuddhi-se bhinna shuddhAtmA hU.N. shAshvat dravya hU.N.

mumukShuH- shlok AtA hai, "tatprati prIti chitten, vArtApi hi shrutA'. vah bhI sa.nskArakI hI bAt hai? ruchipUrvak "tatprati prIti chitten, vArtApi hi shrutA'. bhagavAn AtmAkI bAt prItipUrvak, ruchipUrvak sune to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjana. bAt sunI ho vah sa.nskArakI bAt hai?

samAdhAnaH- bhAvi nirvAN bhAjana. sa.nskAr nahI.n, a.ntarame.n aisI ruchi yadi pragaT kI ho, a.ntarame.n aisI ruchi ho to bhAvi (nirvAN bhAjan hai). tatprati prIti chittena. a.ntarakI prIti, a.ntarakI rUchipUrvak yadi vah grahaN kI ho, usame.n sa.nskAr samA jAte hai.n.

sa.nskArakA matalab vah hai ki svaya.nko jis prakArakI ruchi hai, us ruchikI andar dR^iDhatA honI, us taraph apanA jhukAv honA, jo ruchi hai us jAtakA, vah ruchikA sa.nskAr hai. vah sa.nskAr apekShA-se. ruchi, gaharI ruchi hai us ruchike andar ekadam jamAvaT ho jAnA, vah sa.nskAr hI hai.

mumukShuH- vahA.N to aisA kahA na, nishchitam bhAvi nirvAN bhAjana. niyam-se vah bhaviShyame.n muktikA bhAjan hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- muktikA bhAjan hotA hai.

mumukShuH- sa.nskArame.n bhI utanA bal ho to..

samAdhAnaH- sa.nskArame.n ruchi sAthame.n A jAtI hai. sa.nskAr arthAt ruchi. a.ntarakI gaharI ruchipUrvakake jo sa.nskAr hai.n, sa.nskAr usIkA nAm hai ki jo sa.nskAr a.ntarame.n aisI gaharI ruchipUrvakake ho ki jo sa.nskAr phir jAye hI nahI.n. sa.nskAr nirarthak na jAy, aise sa.nskAra. aise ruchipUrvakakA ho to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjan hai. yathArtha kAraNarUp hotA hai.

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mumukShuH- ruchipUrvakake aise sa.nskAr paDe ki jo niyam-se muktikA kAraN ho.

samAdhAnaH- niyam-se muktikA kAraN ho.

mumukShuH- .. pragaT ho.

samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha pragaT ho. puruShArtha kare tab use aisA hI hotA hai ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.N. bhAvanA aisI hotI hai. parantu ruchipUrvakake jo sa.nskAr Dale vah yathArtha bhAvi nirvAN bhAjan hotA hai. nirvANakA bhAjan hotA hai. ... sa.nskAr vahI kAm karate hai.n, viparIt ruchi hai isaliye mithyAtva-viparIt dR^iShTike sa.nskAr chale Ate hai.n. yathArtha andar ruchi ho ki ye kuCh alag hai. AtmA koI alag hai, mArga koI alag hai. aisI ruchi a.ntarame.n-se ho, prIti-se vANI sune to a.ntarame.n aisI apUrvatA lage ki ye AtmA koI apUrva hai. vANIme.n aisA kahate hai.n, gurudev aisA kahate hai.n to a.ntarame.n AtmA koI apUrva hai. aisI AtmAkI apUrvatA taraphakI ruchi jage aur usake sa.nskAr a.ntarame.n Dale, vah bhAvi nirvAN bhAjan hotA hai.

mumukShuH- vartamAname.n abhI samyagdarshan prApta nahI.n huA ho, to bhI usake liye..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, sa.nskAr kAm karate hai.n.

mumukShuH- khyAl A sakatA hai ki yah jIv bhAvi nirvANakA bhAjan hogA. usakI ruchi par-se athavA usakI chaTapaTI par-se, laganI par-se (khyAl AtA hogA)?

samAdhAnaH- usake anumAn-se usakI koI apUrvatA par-se khyAl A sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- "svabhAv shabda sunate hI sharIrako chIratA huA hR^idayame.n utar jAy, rom- rom ullasit ho jAy-itanA hR^idayame.n ho, aur svabhAvako prApta kiye binA chain na paDe,.. yathArtha bhUmikAme.n aisA hotA hai.' aisA kahakar Apako kyA kahanA hai?

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarame.n gaharAIme.n chIrakar utar jAya. andar AtmAkI pariNatime.n itanA a.ntarame.n dR^iDh ho jAy ki yah kuCh alag hI hai. aisI gaharAIme.n use ruchi lagatI hai ki yahI satya hai. ye sab vibhAv niHsAr hai, sArabhUt vastu koI apUrva hai. aisA a.ntarame.n use lage.

yathArtha arthAt jise a.ntarame.n AtmAkA hI karanA hai, dUsarA koI prayojan nahI.n hai. ek AtmAkA jise prayojan hai, us prayojan-se hI usake sab kArya, AtmAke prayojan artha hI hai.n. aisI AtmArthIkI bhUmikA-pratham bhUmikA hai.

mumukShuH- AtmArthIkI bhUmikAme.n aisA hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ... isaliye use ullAs AtA hogA. chIrakar hR^idayame.n utar jAy arthAt use us jAtakA utsAh (AtA hogA)?

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samAdhAnaH- andar hR^idayame.n use aisA ho jAy ki mai.n bhinna hU.N aur yah sab bhinna hai. yahI karanA hai, satya yahI hai, aisA a.ntarame.n apanI or use utanI mahimA, utanA ullAs, apanI or a.ntarame.n jhukAv ho jAya. ruchi, us jAtakA jhukAv ho jAtA hai.

.. alag hI bAt hai. muktikA mArga koI alag hI hai. yah svAnubhUti .. bhinna hI hai. aisI apUrvatA lage. tattva vichAr kare, us or ruchi jAya. rAg-se, guNabhed aur paryAyabhed-se mai.n bhinna kis apekShA-se hU.N, vah sab jo jij~nAsu hai use nirNay hotA hai. yathArtha tattva dR^iShTime.n vah sab A jAtA hai. dravya par dR^iShTi kare usame.n sab A jAtA hai.

use rAg-se bhinna paDanA bAkI rahatA hai. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. parantu j~nAnakA guNabhed, paryAyabhed Adi kis apekShA-se hai aur kaise hai, usakI vastu sthiti kaise hai, vah sab usake j~nAname.n A jAtA hai. yathArtha j~nAn kare use. mai.n to anAdiananta shAshvat dravya hU.N. dravya hU.N to usame.n ashuddhatA (ho rahI hai). mai.n shuddhAtmA hU.N to ye ashuddhatA kis kAraN-se (hotI hai)? kyA hai? a.ntarame.n sAdhak paryAy pragaT ho, ye bAdhak dashA, sAdhak dashA, adhUrI paryAy, pUrNa paryAy, guNakA bhed, j~nAn, darshan, chAritra Adi sab bhed kyA? un sabakA yathArtha j~nAn use hotA hai. dR^iShTi ek akhaNDa dravya mai.n shAshvat hU.N. usame.n pUrNa-apUrNakI koI apekShA nahI.n hai. to bhI pUrNa-apUrNa jo pariNati hotI hai, vah kis kAraN-se (hotI hI)? vah sab j~nAn yathArtha ho jAtA hai. use nishchay- vyavahArakI sab sandhi usake j~nAname.n A jAtI hai.

bhale rAg-se bhinna paDanA hai, kAryame.n use vah karanA hai ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, koI bhI vibhAv (mai.n nahI.n hU.N). kyo.nki virUddha svabhAvI hai. rAgase bhinna paDanekA prayog karanA rahatA hai. mai.n j~nAyak bhinna hU.N. parantu usake j~nAname.n yah sab sAdhakatA (Adi rahatA hai). kR^itakR^itya hU.N, aisI dR^iShTi hai aur kArya karanekA rahatA hai. dR^iShTi-se mai.n shAshvat dravya hU.N aur shuddha hU.N, pUrNa shuddha hU.N. phir bhI ashuddhatA ho rahI hai, usame.n apUrNa-pUrNa paryAyakA bhed (paDatA hai). isaliye use j~nAn sab hotA hai, parantu kArya vibhAv-se bhinna paDanekA rahatA hai. prayogame.n vah hai. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. j~nAyak dashAkI ugratA hotI hai. kR^itakR^itya honeke bAvajUd karanekA rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAname.n sab rahatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAname.n sab apekShAe.N rahatI hai. abhed hone par bhI bhedakI apekShA rahatI hai. usI prakAr kR^itakR^itya hone par bhI kArya karanA bAkI rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- paryAyame.n adhUrApan hai to..

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samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisA hai. paryAyame.n adhUrA, dravya-se pUrNa hU.N.

mumukShuH- .. aisA dR^iShTime.n liyA hai, usI vakta paryAyame.n kArya karanA bAkI rahatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- us samay khyAl hai, kArya karanekA hai. kahI.n bhUl rahe aisA hai hI nahI.n. svaya.n Age baDh nahI.n sakatA hai, isaliye sab prashna utpanna hote hai.n. bAkI gurudevane itanA kahA hai ki kahI.n bhUl na rahe, itanI spaShTatA kI hai. sab spaShTIkaraN kiyA hai. jise koI prashna utpanna huA ho, usIkA spaShTIkaraN unakI vANIme.n AtA thA. kisIko aisA lage ki yah kahA.N-se AyA? jise jo prashna hote the, un sabakA uttar A jAtA thA.

mumukShuH- tIrtha.nkar jaisA yog thA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisA yog thA. unakI vANIkA yog hI aisA thA.

samAdhAnaH- .. a.ntarame.n svabhAvame.n sab bharA hai. a.ntar dR^iShTi kar to a.ntarame.n-se sab nikale aisA hai. usake liye sab vichAr, vA.nchan Adi (hai). AtmA ek anAdiananta vastu hai. ek tattva hai. agAdh samudra, agAdh guNo.n-se bharA hai. sab vibhAvabhAv hai vah AtmAkA svabhAv nahI.n hai. vah to puruShArthakI mandatA-se, karmake nimitta-se apane puruShArthakI mandatA-se hotA hai. svaya.n puruShArtha palaTakar AtmA taraphakI ruchi karake usIkA bAr-bAr manan, chi.ntavan, sab AtmAkA kaise ho, vahI karane jaisA hai. usIkI ruchi baDhAne jaisA hai.

anAdi kAlame.n sab kiyA, lekin ek AtmA apUrva hai (aisA jAnA nahI.n). gurudevakI vANI apUrva thI. kitane sAl vANI barasAyI hai. yahA.N 45-45 sAl nivAs kiyA hai. subah aur dopaharako vANI hI barasAte the. unakA to param upakAr hai. itanI to Tep huI hai.n. unhe.n to vANIkA yog koI prabal aur unakA prabhAvanA yog, aur unakI vANI kuCh alag jAtakI thI. ve to mahApuruSh the. yahA.N to jo unase prApta huA hai, vah sab kahaneme.n AtA hai. unho.nne to baraso.n vANI barasAyI hai.

mumukShuH- itanA kahA hai to ham jaise jIvo.nko itanA upakArI hai ki jisakI koI kImat nahI.n ho sakatI.

samAdhAnaH- gurudev mAno.n sAkShAt bolate ho, aisA Tepame.n lagatA hai. .. to hUbahU si.nhakI dahAD lagatI thI. unakA jo pravachan thA, vah alag thA. unakI karuNA utanI thI. koI AdamI Aye to karuNA-se hI bulAte the. sharIrakA koI ghyAn nahI.n thA.

... to a.ntarame.n dR^iDh ho. AtmA sarvase bhinna j~nAyak hai, usIkA abhyAs aur usIkA vA.nchan, usakA vichAr, bAr-bAr vichAr aur vA.nchaname.n dR^iDh karane jaisA hai. ek j~nAyak AtmAko pahachAnaneke liye.

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aur shubh pariNAmame.n dev-guru-shAstra kyA kahate hai.n? unakA Ashay kyA hai? aur use AtmAme.n kaise UtArakar grahaN karanA? usIkA bAr-bAr gholan, manan karane jaisA hai. bAkI sab (niHsAr hai). sa.nsArame.n jIvaname.n karane jaisA ho to yah hai, ek j~nAyak AtmAko kaise pahachAnanA. svAnubhUtikA mArga gurudevane batAyA hai. log itanA jAnane lage hai.n vah gurudevakA pratAp hai. unho.nne hI sabako yah dishA batAyI hai ki AtmA kaisA hai aur usakA svarUp kyA hai? pratyek dravya svata.ntra hai.n. tU terA kar sakatA hai. bAra.nbAr- bAra.nbAr aisA hI kahate the.

samAdhAnaH- ... andar-se grahaN kar le. use grahaN karake phir use ChoDanA hI mata. aise grahaN kar lenA. ananta kAlame.n bhagavAn hAthame.n Aneke bAd use kaise ChoDe? a.ntarame.n use grahaN kar le ki yah merA AtmA aur yah vibhAva. dono.nko bhinna karanA. ye sab kA.Nchake TUkaDe haiai.n. usame.n-kA.Nchake TUkaDeme.n chaitanyakA chamatkAr nahI.n dikhatA. chaitanyakA chamatkAr to is hIreme.n hai. us hIreko pahachAn lenA, chaitanya hIreko. vah sab to kA.Nchake TUkaDe hai.n. AtA hai na? "...., kastUrI tujh pAs hai, kyA DhU.NDhat hai.' he mR^ig! terI khushbu-se yah van sugandhit huA hai aur tU bAhar-se khojatA hai ki yahA.N-se khushbu AtI hai, is vR^ikShame.n-se, isame.n-se, usame.n-se. kahI.n khushbu nahI.n hai. yahA.N dR^iShTi kar to terI sugandha hai.

chaitanyakA chamatkAr, j~nAnakI prabhA tUne j~neyame.n sthApit kar dI hai. vah j~nAnakI prabhA terI hai, tU tereme.n dekha. ye chaitanyakA chamatkAr tUne jaDame.n sthApit kar diyA hai. tU svaya.n chaitanya- hIrA hai. usame.n sab hai, use khoj le. usakI or dR^iShTi kar, usame.n hI sab bharA hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. laganI lagI ho to utpanna ho. a.ntarame.n utanI laganI chAhiye, svaya.nko utanI ruchi honI chAhiye. yahI karanA hai. usIkI bAra.nbAr lagan lagatI rahe ki mai.n chaitanya j~nAyak hU.N. us j~nAyakakI pariNati hI pragaT karane jaisI hai. utanI andar laganI lage to puruShArtha utpanna ho. ruchi manda ho, bAhar juDatA rahe to use puruShArtha utpanna nahI.n hotA hai. laganI lage to hI utpanna hotA hai. gurudevane to bahut kahA hai, bahut mArga batAyA hai. karanA svaya.nko hai. pariNati kaise palaTanI vah apane hAthakI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- ham bhAIo.n Apake pAs jyAdA nahI.n baiTh sakate, parantu hamAre bhAgya- se hame.n paNDitajI bhI achChe mil gaye hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- .. bahut milA hai, puruShArtha svaya.nko karanA hai. gurudev-se hI sabane