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mumukShuH- dev-shAstra-gurukI mahimA bahut AtI hai, gurudevakI bhI bahut mahimA AtI hai, ApakI bhI bahut mahimA AtI hai. parantu usame.n amuk apekShit Ananda AtA hai. parantu Ap jo kahate ho, andarame.n atIndriy Ananda, aisA Ananda to ab tak j~nAt nahI.n hotA hai, usame.n kyA merI kShati hogI? maname.n to itanA hotA hai ki uChal paDate hai.n. Apake charaNo.nme.n AjIvan samarpaN kar de, itanA andarame.n bhAv AtA hai. apanA chale to AjIvan j~nAnIke pIChe sonagaDhame.n rahe.n. phir bhI andar Ananda nahI.n A rahA hai. a.ntarame.n jo atIndriy kahate hai.n, samyagdarshan honeke samay jo Ananda AtA hai, aisA Ananda AtA nahI.n. usame.n kahA.N (aTakanA hotA hai)?

samAdhAnaH- apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai. puruShArthakI mandatA hai. a.ntarame.n jo atIndriy anupam AnA chAhiye, vikalpa ChUTakar nirvikalpa ho tab vah Ananda AtA hai. vah Ananda use koI vikalpa sahit vah Ananda nahI.n AtA hai. jo mahimAkA Ananda AtA hai, vah shubhabhAvakA Ananda hai. AtmA koI bhinna hai, aisA gurudevane batAyA. jinendra dev koI alag hai, guru koI alag hai, aise jo dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Aye vah sab shubhabhAvakA Ananda hai. parantu vikalpa ChUTakar jo Ananda Aye vah koI anup Ananda hai.

vah Ananda koI vikalpavAlI paryAyame.n vah Ananda nahI.n hotA. vikalpa ChUTakar chaitanyame.n-se jo Ananda Aye, jo chaitanyakA svabhAv hai, us svabhAvame.n pariNamit hokar jo Ananda Ave vah Ananda koI anupam hotA hai. aur pragaT nahI.n honAkA kAraN apanI mandatA-puruShArthakI mandatA hai. mahimA Aye, lekin vah svaya.n puruShArtha nahI.n karatA hai. pramAdake kAraN use Ananda nahI.n A rahA hai.

usakI pariNati jo par taraph jA rahI hai, use svaya.n vApas nahI.n moDatA hai. jo anAdikA abhyAs hai usIme.n pariNati doD jAtI hai. use andar mahimA Ave ki yahI satya hai, yahI karane jaisA hai aise mahimA Aye to bhI usakI pariNatiko palaTanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. svaya.n pariNati palaTatA nahI.n hai. isaliye puruShArthakI mandatAke kAraN vah Age nahI.n baDh pAtA hai. puruShArthakI mandatAke kAraNa. aTakA hai vah apanI

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mandatAke kAraNa. ruchikI aisI ugratA karake jo puruShArtha apanI taraph muDanA chAhiye, us puruShArthako svaya.n moDatA nahI.n. isaliye usame.n aTak jAtA hai.

puruShArtha jo bAharame.n kAm karatA hai, use svaya.n palaTatA nahI.n hai. vikalpame.n jo puruShArtha jAtA hai, us puruShArthako palaTakar nirvikalpatAkI paryAyame.n svaya.n palaTatA nahI.n hai. isaliye use vah Ananda nahI.n AtA hai. vah Ananda andar chaitanyame.n jAy to hI vah Ananda usame.n-se pragaT hotA hai. vikalpame.n khaDA ho, tabatak Ananda nahI.n AtA hai. savikalpa dashAme.n bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho, samyagdarshan ho, use A.nshik shAnti hotI hai. parantu vikalpavAlI dashAme.n jo nirvikalpatAkA Ananda hotA hai vah Ananda to nirvikalpa dashAme.n hI hotA hai.

samyagdR^iShTiko bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA sahaj hotI hai. usame.n A.nshik shAnti, j~nAyakakI dhArA, shAntikI dashA hotI hai. parantu apUrva Ananda to nirvikalpa dashAme.n hI hotA hai. aur vah bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA bhI, abhI jo jij~nAsu hai, use sahaj dhArA nahI.n hai. vah to abhI abhyAs karatA hai. ekatvabuddhi hai. ekatvatAko toDe, usakA prayAs kare. vah ekatvatA toDanekA puruShArtha nahI.n karatA hai. jitanI ekatvatA vibhAvake sAth hai, kShaN- kShaName.n use ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai, kShaN-kShaName.n, aisI ugratA j~nAyakakI dhArA kShaN-kShaName.n pragaT ho, aisA puruShArtha to nahI.n hai. vah kShaN jyAdA hai, vikalpake sAth (ekatvakI) kShaN to din-rAt chalatI hai, j~nAyakakA abhyAs to koI bAr karatA hai. ataH use j~nAyakakI pariNati sahaj honI chAhiye. to vikalpa TUTakar Ananda ho. vah to karatA nahI.n. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aise ruchi kare, mahimA kare, koI bAr abhyAs kare to mAtra kShaNabhar thoDI der kare vah use sahaj nahI.n TikatA hai aur (ekatvatA) to usakI TikI hai, vah to use chaubIso.n ghaNTe chalatI hai. yah use.. tIvra puruShArtha karake tIvra puruShArtha karatA nahI.n hai. isaliye nirvikalpa dashA hokar jo Ananda AnA chAhiye vah nahI.n AtA hai.

vah jIvan ekatvatAme.n ekamek ho gayA hai aur yah bhedaj~nAnakA jIvan to mushkil- se abhyAs kare to. vah to hai nahI.n. isaliye use Ananda nahI.n AtA hai. bhAvanA rahe, ruchi rahe, mahimA rahe, parantu puruShArthakI dhArA us or jAtI nahI.n isaliye nahI.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- vah Ananda kaisA hogA? kyo.nki hame.n to gurudevake prati yA Apake prati bhAvanA Aye, arpaNatAkA bhAv Aye to hame.n aisA lagatA hai ki hame.n lagatA hai hame.n bahut Ananda-ananda AyA, aisA lagatA hai. phir Ap jo kahate ho vah Ananda kaisA hogA?

samAdhAnaH- us AnandakA kisIke sAth usakA mel nahI.n hai. vah bolaneme.n Aye

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aisA nahI.n hai. vah to svabhAvame.n lIn ho, svabhAvako pahachAne to usame.n sahaj pragaT hotA hai. vah to anupam hai, use kisIkI upamA lAgU nahI.n paDatI. koI vikalpAshrit bhAvo.nkI upamA use lAgU nahI.n paDatI. vikalpame.n jo Ananda AtA hai vah AkulatA mishrit Ananda hai. us Anandame.n AkulatA rahI hai aur vah vibhAv bhAv hai. chaitanyakA Ananda nirvikalpa hai, AkulatA rahit hai, svabhAvame.n-se sahaj pragaT hotA Ananda hai. use kahI.n-se lAnA nahI.n paDatA, vah to sahaj pragaT hotA hai. use kisIkI upamA lAgU nahI.n paDatI. vah to anupam hai. AtmAme.n jo svabhAv bharA hai, usame.n pariNati hone-se, lInatA hone-se pragaT hotA hai. use kisIkI upamA nahI.n hai. use koI dR^iShTAnta lAgU nahI.n paDatA.

mumukShuH- katha.nchit vyaktavya hai.

samAdhAnaH- samajh lenA. jagatake koI vibhAvabhAvame.n vah Ananda nahI.n hai. jagat- se bhinna nyArA hI hai. chaitanya anupam tattva, usakA Ananda anupama. usake sab bhAv anupama. vah alag duniyAkA Ananda hai aisA samajh lenA. use koI dR^iShTAnta lAgU nahI.n paDatA. jo sukh-sukh ichChatA hai, vah sukh apaneme.n bharA hai, bAhar-se nahI.n AtA hai. vah koI apUrva hai, use jagatakI koI upamA lAgU nahI.n paDatI, vah koI anupam hai.

mumukShuH- ham kuCh dUsarI ichChA rakhate hai.n. aisI sab bAte.n.. aur ek paramapAriNAmikabhAva. usakA vichAr karate hai.n tab tha.Nbh jAte hai.n. isame.n karanA kyA hai? svabhAv ... tU hai, svabhAv hai. to phir shAnti kyo.n nahI.n hotI hai? svabhAvame.n shAnti bharI hai, svabhAvakA vichAr karane par dUsarA koI vikalpa Ane nahI.n detA. svabhAva. vAchyArthakA vichAr ... usame.n kuCh karanA nahI.n hai. hamArI mati kahA.N ulajhatI hai, yah samajhame.n AyA hai. ...

samAdhAnaH- kahI.n na kahI.n svaya.n hI ruk jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- vah to hakIkat hai.

samAdhAnaH- utpAd-vyay-dhruvako yathArtha samajhe to vikalpa ChUTe. karanekA kuCh nahI.n rahatA. vAstavik rUp-se kartAbuddhi ChoD de, j~nAyak ho jAy to karanA kuCh nahI.n hai. mai.n parapadArthakA kar sakatA hU.N athavA vikalpakA kartA mai.n hU.N athavA mai.n rAgakA kartA hU.N, vah sab ChUT jAya. vAstavik rUp-se yadi j~nAyak ho jAy, j~nAyakakI pariNati ho to usame.n bAharakA kuCh karanA nahI.n rahatA hai. vah sahaj j~nAtA ban jAy, sahaj jo utpAd-vyay-dhruvasvarUp vastu hai, us rUp svaya.n pariNamit ho jAy to bAharakA kuCh karanA nahI.n rahatA.

svaya.n jis svarUp hai, usame.n dR^iShTiko tha.NbhAkar usakA j~nAn aur lInatA kare to

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kuCh karanekA nahI.n rahatA hai. svaya.n j~nAyak ho jAy to. j~nAyako hotA nahI.n hai aur kartR^itvabuddhi khaDI rahatI hai ki mai.n kuCh karu.N, mai.n kuCh karu.N, bAharakA karu.N, aisA karu.N, vaisA karu.N, aisI kartR^itvabuddhime.n vah bAharakA kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA hai. utpAd-vyay- dhruv sahaj svabhAv hai, us rUp svaya.n ho jAy to kuCh karanA nahI.n rahatA hai.

apanI ruchi nahI.n hai us rUp honekI, svaya.n niShkarma nivR^ittirUp pariNati karanI aur svabhAvarUp pariNamit ho jAnA, aisI ruchikI kShati hai. svaya.nko kuCh bAharakI pravR^itti ruchatI hai. nivR^itta svarUp AtmA hai usame.n hI shAnti aur usame.n hI Ananda bharA hai. us jAtakI svaya.nkI ruchi nahI.n hai isaliye bAharakA kuCh karanA, aisI usakI pariNati chalatI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- ruchi nahI.n hai?

samAdhAnaH- vAstavik ruchi vaisI ho, a.ntarame.n vaisI ugra ruchi ho ki mai.n nivR^itta svarUp hI hU.N aur nivR^ittarUp pariNam jAU.N, aisI ruchikI yadi ugratA ho to puruShArtha hue binA rahe nahI.n. jahA.N chain na paDe, jis vikalpa bhAvame.n svaya.n ek kShaN mAtra bhI Tik na sake, to-to vah ChUT hI jAtA hai. svaya.n Tik sakatA hai, vah aisA sUchit karatA hai usake puruShArthakI mandatA hai. vahA.N vah TikA hai.

mumukShuH- ruchikI jAtame.n kShati hai yA mAtrAme.n kShati hai?

samAdhAnaH- vah svaya.n samajh lenA ki jAtame.n kShati hai yA mAtrAme.n. apanA hR^iday samajh letA hai ki yathArtha chaitanya svarUp hai vah ek hI mujhe chAhiye, phir bhI mai.n bAhar jAtA hU.N, merI ruchikI mandatA hai. ruchikI jAtame.n kShati hai. gurudevane itanA mArga batAyA, phir jAtame.n kShati rahe to vah to svaya.nkI hI kShati hai. jAtame.n kShati nahI.n rahatI. gurudevane aisA upadesh diyA aur yathArtha mumukShu banakar sunA ho to usakI jAtime.n kShati rahe aisA kaise bane? parantu mAtrAme.n usakI dR^iDhatAme.n kShati hai. usake puruShArthakI mandatA, usakI ruchikI mandatA. vah bAharame.n TikatA hai.

mumukShuH- dUsareme.n to kahe.n ki usakI shraddhA alag hai. dUsarI shraddhA dekhate hue, yah vastu suhAtI hai yA nahI.n? kyo.nki shraddhAkA kArya to ek hI prakArakA hai, usame.n koI bha.ng-bhed nahI.n paDate. to yah ruchatA hai, aisA ham kahate hai.n. dUsarA ruchatA nahI.n hai, yah hakIkat hai.

samAdhAnaH- ruchikA kArya AtA nahI.n hai. ruchatA hai vah, aur kArya kare dUsarA. kArya bAharakA hotA hai. a.ntarame.n yadi AtmAkI ruchi ho to us jAtakA kArya nahI.n hotA hai. utanI ruchikI mandatA hai aur puruShArthakI mandatA hai. jise yathArtha pratIti ho, andar dR^iDhatA ho use puruShArthakI gati us or muDatI hai. phir kitane muDe vah dUsarI

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bAt hai. puruShArtha aur pratItame.n thoDA a.ntar rah jAtA hai. jise pratIti ho-samyagdarshan ho aur turanta chAritra ho jAy aisA nahI.n banatA. parantu pratIti ho usakA amu kArya to AtA hI hai. jisakI yathArtha pratIti huyI, use amuk bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA nirvikalpa dashA to pragaT huyI hai, parantu usakI lInatAme.n der lagatI hai.

mumukShuH- sanmukh jo kahaneme.n AtA hai ki yah sanmukh huA hai. sanmukhatA aur pratItame.n kyA pharka hai? ise pratIti hai aur is sanmukhatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- pratIt to yathArtha pratIti. sahaj bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho gayI vah pratIti. svasanmukh huA usame.n amuk jAtakI ruchi hai. use abhI yathArtha pratIti nahI.n huyI hai.

mumukShuH- kisake sanmukh huA hai, use mAlUm hai?

samAdhAnaH- AtmAke sanmukh huA hai.

mumukShuH- sanmukh mAne kyA?

samAdhAnaH- sanmukh arthAt AtmA taraph usakI pariNati muDatI hai ki yahI mujhe chAhie. samIp A gayA hai, vikalpa, vibhAv to use ekadam nahI.n ruchatA hai. mujhe sahaj j~nAyakatA ruchatI hai, a.ntarame.n j~nAyak taraph usakI bAr-bAr gati jAtI hai. abhI yathArtha nahI.n huA hai, vah sanmukhatA hai.

mumukShuH- yathArtha nahI.n huA hai, vah sanmukhatA hai. sanmukhatA arthAt use khyAl hai ki yah, isake sanmukh hU.N, yah, use khyAlame.n AyA hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, use amuk prakAr-se AyA hai. vAstavik to aisA hI hai ki jab yathArtha huA tab huA. usake pahalekA hai vah sab to yogyatAvAlA kahA jAtA hai. phir usame.n samIp kitanA, dUr kitanA vah svaya.n samajh lenA. vahA.N tak to usake do bhAg hI hai. yathArtha jab samyagdarshan pragaT hotA hai, tabhI yathArtha pratIti, tabhI samyagdarshana. usame.n bhAg nahI.n hai.

usake pUrvakA sab manda aur tIvratAvAlA hI kahaneme.n AtA hai. vah sab visheShaN, yathArtha visheShaN sab samyagdarshaname.n lAgU paDate hai.n. usake pahale usakI ruchi aur jij~nAsA us taraphakI hai. vah use us prakAr-se kAraNarUp-se yathArtha kahaneme.n AtA hai. vah kAraNarUp (kahA jAtA hai).

mumukShuH- jab aisA vichAr karate hai.n ki bahinako itane alpa samayame.n samyagdarshan ho gayA aur ham itane-itane sAl-se mahenat karate hai.n to bhI pariNati hotI nahI.n. puruShArthake prakArame.n kuCh kShati hogI?

samAdhAnaH- mahenat kI, vah mahenat bhI kaisI kI, vah samajhanA paDegA na. puruShArthakI

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kShati hai. ruchime.n pharka hai aisA nahI.n, parantu apanI ruchikI mandatA hai. bAhar kitanA rukA hai? bAharame.n kitanI ruchi jAtI hai?

mumukShuH- usame.n samayakA savAl hai? jyAdA vakta usame.n rukatA hai aur isame.n kam samay rukatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- samay-se bhI a.ntarakI kShati hai, samayakI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- jyAdA samay rukatA hai aisA?

samAdhAnaH- samay jyAdA aisA nahI.n, a.ntarame.n-se palaTatA nahI.n hai. samay nahI.n.

mumukShuH- ruchikI mandatA to hai. aisI ichChA to rakhate hai.n ki samyagdarshan ho. nitA.ntarUp-se, nahI.n to itane sAl nikAlekA kyA prayojan kyA? parantu prayojaname.n kuCh aisI kShati lagatI hai ki vah dUr honI chAhiye, to tvarA-se kAm kar sake.

samAdhAnaH- kShati ho to hI apane puruShArthakI mandatA rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- svaya.nko khojanA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- apanI kShati apaneko (mAlUm paDe).

mumukShuH- sab ghoTAlA hai.

samAdhAnaH- svaya.nko samajhanA hai. usame.n koI use khojakar nahI.n de detA. kAraN yathArtha ho to kArya yathArtha Ave. parantu kaisA kAraN pragaT huA, vah svaya.nko khojanA hai. sanmukhatA Adi sab svaya.nko khojanA hai.

mumukShuH- gurudev-se bhI abhI prabhAvanAkA kAl kuCh visheSh tvarA-se aur visheSh vikasIt ho rahA ho, aisA lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- tIrtha.nkarakA dravya thA isaliye unakA puNya aur us jAtakA pratAp kArya karatA hI rahatA hai. vartamAname.n bhI kare aur bhaviShyame.n bhI karatA rahe. gurudevane jo vANI barasAyI hai, jo upadeshakI jamAvaT kI hai vah jIvo.nke hR^idayame.n samAyI hai. isaliye sabako gurudev par bhakti hai, ataH gurudevako kyA arpaN kare.n, aisI bhAvanA sabako hotI hai. gurudevake upakArake badalame.n kyA karanA, aisI bhAvanA sabako hotI hai.

mumukShuH- us din Ap jab shilAnyAs karate the, pATiyA lagAte the, tab aisA huA ki bahinashrI kyA karate hai.n!

samAdhAnaH- ... pAnI rahegA tabatak gurudevakI vANI rahegI. upadeshakhI jamAvaT ChoTe-se lekar baDo.nko aisI kI hai aur kisIko aisI ruchi utpanna ho gayI. isaliye gurudevako kyA arpaN kare.n? unake upakArakA badalA kaise chUkAye? isaliye sab unakA hI pratAp hai. gurudevake charaNo.nme.n kyA de.n, aisA sabako ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- aisA hI hai, aisA hI hai. bAt sachchI hai. hamako bahut bAr lajjA

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AtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- vANI barasAkar sabako jAgR^it kiyA. isaliye gurudevakA upakArakA badalA kaise chUkAye, aisI sabako bhAvanA hotI hai. unakA prabhAvanA yog hI vartatA hai.

mumukShuH- ekadam sachchI bAt hai. akSharashaH sachchI bAt hai. usame.n bhI ApakI pavitratA, ApakI nirmalatA, ApakI nispR^ihatA. nispR^ihatA jabarajasta kAm kar rahI hai. bahinashrIko kahA.N kisIkI paDI hai. gurudev kahate the na. svaya.n kahate the, Apako kyA hai? Ap to baiThe raho. logo.nko jo karanA hai karane do. barAbar vahI sthiti A gayI hai. Ananda huA. Ap dIrghAyu ho aur svAsthya kushal raho.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakI vaishAkh shuklA dUj thI na, us vakta yahA.N sab sajAvaT kI thI. yahA.N svAdhyAy mandirame.n chitra eva.n charaN Adi lagAyA thA. jIvan darshan kiyA thA. vahA.N svAdhyAy mandirame.n gayI thI. tab mujhe aise hI vichAr Ate the ki yah sab huA, lekin gurudev yahA.N padhAre to (kitanA achChA hotA). aise hI vichAr rAtako bhI Ate rahe. gurudev padhAro, padhAro.

prAtaHkAlame.n svapna AyA ki gurudev mAno.n devalokame.n-se padhArate hai.n, devake rUpame.n. ratnake AbhUShaN, hAr, mugaT ityAdi. gurudevane kahA, bahin! aisA kuCh nahI.n rakhanA, mai.n to yahI hU.N. aisA tIn bAr (hAth karake bole). mai.nne kahA, mai.n to kadAchit mAnU.N, ye sab kaise mAne? gurudev kuCh bole nahI.n. lekin us din sabako aisA hI ho gayA, mAno.n ullAs-ullAs ho gayA.

mumukShuH- gurudev yahA.N the us vakta bhI apanI itanI chi.ntA karate the, to vahA.N jAneke bAd to adhik samR^iddhime.n gaye hai.n, sAdhu-sa.nto.nke bIch (rahate hai.n). isaliye kuCh to karate hoe.nge na. unako bhI vikalpa to AtA hogA. nahI.n to bhagavAnako pUCh le ki vahA.N ho rahA hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakA sab prabhAv hai. mumukShuH- bahut sundara. pUre shAsanake bhAgyake yogase pUre bhAratavarShame.n... samAdhAnaH- a.ntarame.n ruchi rakhanI. vahA.N vyApAr-vyavasAy ho to bhI shAstra svAdhyAy karanA, kuCh vichAr karanA ki AtmA bhinna hai. yah manuShya jIvan aise hI pravR^ittime.n chalA jAtA hai.