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mumukShuH- .. vah to samajhame.n AtA hai, parantu dravyako arpit ho jAnA, vah kaise karanA?

samAdhAnaH- dravyako arpit ho jAnA, dravyako barAbar pahachAne ki mai.n chaitanya shAshvat anAdi j~nAyak dravya hU.N. j~nAyakakA svarUp pahachAne aur j~nAyakakI mahimA Aye to use arpit huA jAtA hai.

jaise jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrakI mahimA Anese vahA.N arpaNatA hotI hai. jinendra dev jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa hai.n, guru ki jo AtmAkI bAra.nbAr sAdhanA kar rahe hai.n aur vANI barasAte hai.n, aisA guru aur shAstra mArga batAtA hai. aisI jo unakI mahimA AtI hai, vaise yadi AtmAkI mahimA Aye to usame.n bhI arpit huA jAtA hai.

jinendradev, jinho.nne sarvotkR^iShTa AtmA, apanI paryAy chaitanyadevakI pUrNatA prApta kI hai. aise jinendra devakI jaise mahimA AtI hai, gurukI, shAstrakI, aise chaitanyako pahachAne to chaitanyakI bhI mahimA AtI hai. j~nAyak kaisA hai? ki ananta guNo.nse bharapUr anupam tattva aur AshcharyakArI tattva hai. vah tattva anAdiananta hai. chAhe jitane bhav kiye to bhI AtmAko kuCh ek a.nsh bhI, thoDA bhI vibhAvakA andar pravesh nahI.n huA hai yA malinatA nahI.n huyI hai.

aisA shAshvat AtmA jo koI adabhut AshcharyakArI hai, koI usakA nAsh nahI.n kar sakatA. koI use utpanna nahI.n kar sakatA. anAdiananta shAshvat aisA anupam AshcharyakArI ananta guNo.nse bharapUr (hai) ki jo svAnubhUtime.n usakI anubhUtime.n pakaDame.n AtA hai. aur j~nAnase usake lakShaN dvArA pahachAnA jAtA hai. AtmA kaisA anupam tattva hai, vah usake j~nAnalakShaNase pahachAname.n AtA hai. usakI yadi mahimA Aye ki AtmA hI jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa hai, to use bhI arpit huA jAtA hai. bas, is j~nAyakadevake sivA mujhe kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. is jagatame.n jo kuCh hai vah kuCh bhI sArabhUt nahI.n hai, tuchCha hai.

yah j~nAyakadev hI jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa hai. j~nAyakadevakI mahimA Aye to usakI bhI arpaNatA ho jAya. mere j~nAyakako kaise pahachAnU.N? use nirakhatA rahU.N, use arpaN ho jAU.N, usakI mahimA karu.N, usakI pUjan karu.N. mahimA Aye to j~nAyakadevako bhI arpaN huA

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jAtA hai. jaise dev-guru-shAstrako arpaN hotA hai, vaise j~nAyakadevako arpaN hotA hai.

bhagavAnane j~nAyakadevako pragaT kiyA hai, guru j~nAyakadevakI svAnubhUtikI svAnubhUti kar rahe hai.n, sAdhanA kar rahe haiai.n, shAstra j~nAyakadevako batAtA hai. aisA j~nAyakadev yadi a.ntarame.n svaya.n lakShaN dvArA pahachAne aur usakI mahimA Aye to usame.n bhI arpaNatA ho jAtI hai. aur mArga vahI hai. j~nAyakadevakI mahimA Aye binA muktikA mArga pragaT nahI.n hotA. j~nAyakako pahachAne binA aur use arpaN hue binA, muktikA mArga pragaT nahI.n hotA. use pahachAnakar, usakI shraddhA karake usame.n lInatA kare to use svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai.

ek j~nAyakadevako pahachAne binA muktikA mArga pragaT nahI.n hotA. usakI arpaNatA Ave to hI muktikA mArga prAra.nbh hotA hai. isaliye use pahachAnanA. vahI usakA upAy hai. anyase rAg TUTakar virakti Akar a.ntarame.n hI arpaNatA A jAy, vah A sake aisA hai. j~nAyakadevako pahachAne to arpaNatA hotI hai.

mumukShuH- dev-guru-shAstra to sAmane dikhate hai.n isaliye unakI mahimA AtI hai, parantu Ap kahate ho tab to aisA hI lagatA hai ki ekadam AsAn hai. parantu jab prayogame.n to takalIph hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- prayatna karanA mushkil paDatA hai. anAdikA abhyAs hai. jinendra dev, guru, shAstra sAmane dikhe isaliye unakI mahimA Aye, yah dikhatA nahI.n. parantu j~nAnalakShaNase pahachAnA jAy aisA hai. arUpI hai isaliye dikhatA nahI.n. parantu svaya.n hI hai, dUsarA nahI.n hai. dUsarA ho to DhU.NDhane jAnA paDe. yah to svaya.n hI hai. use kahI.n khojane jAnA paDe aisA nahI.n hai. lekin svaya.nkA sthUl upayog ho gayA hai, upayog bAhar jAtA hai. upayog bAhar jAtA hai use svaya.n sthUl upayogako sUkShma karake svaya.nko j~nAnalakShaNase pahachAne to svaya.n hI hai. pakaDame.n Aye aisA hai aur usakI anubhUti ho sake aisA hai. ananta jIvo.nne j~nAyakadevako pahachAnakar muktike mArgako prApta hue hai.n, usakI svAnubhUtiko prApta hue hai.n. pahachAnA jAy aisA hai, pakaDame.n Aye aisA hai. parantu svaya.n prayatna kare, usakI jij~nAsA kare, bhAvanA kare, abhyAs kare to vah pakaDame.n Aye aisA hai. grahaN hue binA nahI.n rahe. svaya.n hI hai, kyo.n pakaDame.n nahI.n Aye? apanI bhUlake kAraN svaya.n bAhar aTakA hai. usakI ruchi bAhar jAtI hai, isaliye pakaD nahI.n sakatA.

mumukShuH- jIvakA astitva bolaneme.n athavA sIkhaneme.n AtA hai. parantu andarase astitvakA jor kyo.n nahI.n AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- bolaneme.n to astitva-mai.n hU.N. parantu a.ntarame.n mai.n hU.N, vah vikalpa hai. lekin mai.n hU.N vah kaun hU.N? usakA astitva svaya.n gaharAIme.n jAy, use-astitvako khoje

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to astitvasvarUp hI svaya.n hai. jo hai vah hai, svaya.n hI vastu hai, dUsarA koI nahI.n hai. svaya.n gaharAIme.n jAy to apanA astitva grahaN ho sake aisA hai. yah sab sharIrAdi dikhAI detA hai, bAharakI vastue.N dikhatI hai, andarake vibhAv pariNAmakA vedan hot hai, rAg-dveShAdikA. aise AtmA jAnanevAlA hai, us jAnanevAlekA astitva grahaN ho sake aisA hai. svaya.n andar sUkShma hokar praj~nAChainI dvArA, praj~nAko-j~nAnako tIkShNa karake a.ntarame.n astitvako grahaN kare to ho sake aisA hai. parantu vah gaharAIme.n jAtA nahI.n. isaliye apanA astitva grahaN nahI.n ho rahA hai.

apanA astitva maujUd hI hai. kahI.n nahI.n gayA hai, kahI.n gum nahI.n gayA hai. astitva maujUd hai, parantu svaya.n grahaN nahI.n kar sakatA hai. prayatna kare to grahaN ho sake aisA hai. (puruShArtha) manda hai isaliye grahaN nahI.n ho sakatA hai. prayatna svaya.nko karanA rahatA hai. bAra.nbAr usIkA prayatna karate rahanA, bAra.nbAra. thakanA nahI.n, bAra.nbAr usIkA prayatna ho to vah pakaDame.n Aye binA, grahaN hue binA nahI.n rahatA. thakanA nahI.n. dhIrajase AkulatA kiye binA grahaN kare to ho sake aisA hai. apanI bhAvanA ugra ho to puruShArtha hue binA rahatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- itane ... liye hai.n, ab to hue binA ChUTakArA hI nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane yah mArga batAyA hai, gurudevane vANI barasAyI, apUrva vANI barasAyI, use grahaN hue binA kaise rahe? svaya.n puruShArtha kare to ho sake aisA hai. grahaN karane jaisA hai. j~nAyak, mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N, yah sharIr merA nahI.n hai. sharIr paradravya hai, rog sab sharIrame.n Ate hai.n. j~nAyakame.n nahI.n Ate hai.n. j~nAyak to shAshvat hai. j~nAyakakI bhAvanA, jij~nAsA, j~nAyakakI mahimA, mai.n to j~nAyak hI hU.N, j~nAyakakI or raTan rakhanA. usIkA abhyAs, usakA chi.ntavan vahI karane jaisA hai. shubh bhAvanAme.n dev-guru-shAstrakA smaraN aur andar j~nAyakakA smaraNa. mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N, yah sharIr mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n chaitanyadev j~nAyak hU.N. vah grahaN karane jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- ... kis vidhese andar karanA?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAn prasiddha hai tau AtmA prasiddha hotA hai. parantu j~nAn prasiddha hai, use svaya.n pahachAne. j~nAnalakShaN dvArA AtmAko pahachAne to prasiddha ho na. AtmA to prasiddha hI hai, lekin prasiddhime.n lAnA vah to svaya.n puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. j~nAn prasiddha lakShaN hai, us lakShaN dvArA lakShyako pahachAne, dravyako pahachAne. usakI pratIt kare, usame.n lInatA kare, usakA yathArtha j~nAn kare to prasiddhime.n Aye. svaya.n puruShArtha kare nahI.n to kaise prasiddha ho? prasiddha hI hai. usakA lakShaN to prasiddha hI hai. lekin prasiddhime.n lAnA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai.

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mumukShuH- shAstra yA ApakA mArgadarshan kuCh... ki is vidhise...?

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane to bahut mArga batAyA hai. puruShArtha to svaya.nko karanA hai. gurudevane spaShTa kar-karake, ekadam sUkShmarUpase jaisA thA vaisA mArga spaShTa batA diyA hai. bAhar kahI.n bhI aTakanA nahI.n, andar ek j~nAn lakShaN AtmA j~nAyak hai. use pahachAn le. j~nAn dvArA pUre j~nAyakako pahachAn le. lekin vah karanA to svaya.nko hai.

a.ntarame.nse utanA nyArA ho, sab vibhAvo.nse bhinna hokar andar j~nAyakake lakShaNako, ekadam usake lakShaN dvArA pratIt dR^iDh kare ki yah j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N. j~nAyakako grahaN kare, j~nAyakame.n lInatA kare to j~nAyak prasiddha hotA hai. pariNati bAhar dauDe, use j~nAyak kaise prasiddha ho? use andar pahachAnakar moDanA ki yah j~nAyak hai. j~nAyakakI or pariNatiko moDe to j~nAyak prasiddha hotA hai. pariNatikI dauD sab bAhar ho rahI hai, a.ntarakI or pariNati jAtI nahI.n hai, to j~nAyak kaise prasiddha ho?

svaya.n prasiddhime.n sab vibhAv lAtA hai. sab vibhAv, rAg-dveSh, sa.nkalpa-vikalpakI prasiddhi svaya.n karatA hai. j~nAyakakI prasiddhi andar jAy to svaya.nko prasiddha hotA hai. vah to prasiddha hI hai. dUsarA nahI.n hai ki svaya.n gupta rahe. svaya.n hI hai. svaya.n apaneko bhUl gayA vah AshcharyakI bAt hai. svaya.n svaya.nko bhUl jAy, yah kaisI AshcharyakI bAt hai!

mumukShuH- baDA andher ho gayA.

samAdhAnaH- baDA andher ho gayA. dUsareko bhUle vah dUsarI bAt hai, svaya.n svaya.nko bhUl gayA, yah to kaisA andher hai! shreShTha anupam aisA svaya.n, use svaya.n bhUl gayA.

mumukShuH- yah baDI bhUla.

samAdhAnaH- baDI bhUla.

mumukShuH- pAs-pAs hai.

samAdhAnaH- dono.n samIp hI hai.n. bhagavAnako grahaN nahI.n karatA hai aur vibhAvako dekhatA rahatA hai. vibhAvako grahaN karatA hai. vibhAvavAlA ho gayA. rAg, dveSh, sa.nkalpa, vikalpavAlA mai.n ho gayA. aisI mAnyatA ho rahI hai. usase nyArA mai.n to bhinna hU.N. merA svaghar alag, mai.n svataH tattva bhinna hU.N. vah bhUl gayA bhagavAnako.

... ananta kAl usame.n gayA. "nij nayananI ALase re, nirakhyA nahI.n harine jarI'. svaya.n hI hai, apane netrakI Alasake kAraN svaya.n A.Nkh kholakar dekhatA nahI.n, bhagavAnako nirakhatA nahI.n. usame.n ananta kAl chalA gayA. svaya.n so rahA hai, jAgatA nahI.n. gurudevane jAgR^it karaneko lalakArake jagAte the. jAganA apane hAthakI bAt hai. tU paramAtmA, tU bhagavAn, tU jAga.

samAdhAnaH- ... guru mil gaye.

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mumukShuH- 91vI.n janma jaya.nti malADame.n sIma.ndhar bhagavAnane mujhe..

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnake pAs the, vahA.Nse yahA.N bharatakShetrame.n kaise Aye?

mumukShuH- hame.n to mAtAjI! bAharase to .. itanA puNya lekar Aye hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- unho.nne kitanI vANI barasAyI hai. kuCh bAkI nahI.n rakhA hai. yah to Apako prashna utpanna hote hai.n, isaliye javAb detI hU.N.

mumukShuH- Ap koI-koI bAr itanA sundar bolate ho, udAsInatAme.n ras AnA chAhiye, j~nAtA-dR^iShTA rahaneme.n ras AnA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- .. Ananda AnA chAhiye. nivR^ittasvarUp AtmA hai. jo usakA svabhAv hai, usI jAtikA svaya.nko ras honA chAhiye. to AtmA us rUp pariNaman kare, to usakI pariNati vaisI hotI hai. phir bAharake kAryame.n bhale amuk prakArase andar juDe, parantu andarase usakI ekatvabuddhi TUT jAya. a.ntarame.nse aisI pariNati, nivR^ittamay pariNati aisI (ho ki) a.ntarame.n use vahI ruche.

mumukShuH- pravR^ittime.nse ras bilakUl uD jAnA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- andarase uD jAya. bIchame.n shubhabhAv Aye vah alag bAt hai, lekin a.ntarame.nse Ananda, AtmAkA jo nivR^ittamay svabhAv hai, usame.n Ananda AnA chAhiye. svabhAv pariNatime.n Ananda AnA chAhiye. j~nAtA rahaneme.n ras AnA chAhiye. sab jagah kartA honeme.n ras ChUT jAya. j~nAtA rahaneme.n ras Aye. mai.n to jAnanevAlA j~nAyak, udAsIn j~nAyak hU.N. par padArthakA mai.n kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. usake kuCh bhI pheraphAr nahI.n kar sakatA, mai.n to jAnanevAlA hU.N. phir bhI rAgake kAraN amuk kAryame.n juDe. juDe to bhI usakI maryAdA hotI hai. ekatvabuddhi nahI.n ho jAtI ki vah svaya.nko bhUlakar usame.n juDe. aisA nahI.n hotA. j~nAyakatA, udAsInatAke kAraN maryAdA A jAtI hai.

jIvako kartAbuddhikA utanA ekatva ho gayA hai ki apanI j~nAyakatA bhUl gayA hai. aur kartAbuddhikI utanI ekatvatA ho gayI hai. kartR^itvame.n utanA ras A gayA hai. AchArya bhagavAnane pUrA kartA-karma adhikAr alag likhA hai. gurudev kartA-karma-kriyA par bahut kahate the. kartAbuddhikA ras use ekatvabuddhise AtA hai. ... yahA.N karaneme.n shUnyatA lage. aisA use ho jAya. vah jIvan kaisA? ki shA.nt pariNaman, us jAtikI shraddhA karanI bhI mushkil lage. phir kAryame.n rakhanA ek or rahA.

mumukShuH- shraddhA hI mukhya hai. koI pahachAne nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, koI pahachAne nahI.n. isame.n ek or baiTh jAnA, aisA artha nahI.n hai. lekin use aisA ho jAtA hai ki aisI shraddhA karanI kaThin lagatI hai. use svaya.nko aisA ho jAtA hai. kuCh na kare to shUnya ho jAye.nge. aisA ho jAtA hai.

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mumukShuH- ab mujhe koI nahI.n pUChegA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. koI kimat rahe nahI.n, koI ginatI nahI.n rahegI, aisA use ho jAtA hai. .. ChoD denekI bAt nahI.n hai, para.ntu andarakI shraddhA, a.ntarame.nse palaTanekI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- .. rakhate hai.n to kitanA achChA lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- paramAtmA hU.N, gurudev Tepame.n bolate hai.n. trilokanAth paramAtmA vItarAg sarvaj~nadevakI dhvanime.n yah AyA hai ki tU paramAtmA hai. sau indrakI upasthitike samavasaraName.n lAkho.n-kroDo devo.nkI hAjarIme.n bhagavAnane kahA hai ki tU paramAtmA hai. lekin bhagavAn! Ap paramAtmA ho, itanA to nakkI karane do. tU paramAtmA hai, aisA nakkI kiye binA yah paramAtmA bhagavAn tujhe nakkI ho.nge. nishchay nakkI kiye binA vyavahAr nakkI hogA nahI.n. gurudev aise lalakArake bolate hai.n.

mumukShuH- mAno.n OM dhvani barasI.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. .. samavasaraName.n bhagavAnane aisA kahA hai, aisA AkAshame.nse kahate ho (aisA lagatA hai). yahA.N virAjate the. sonagaDhake andar kaN-kaName.n gurudevakI smR^iti hai.

j~nAyakako pahachAnanA vahI pratham hai. use pahachAnaneke liye jij~nAsA, vichAr, vA.nchan (karanA). dhyey to sarvapratham j~nAyakako hI pahachAnanA. mArga ek hI hai. j~nAyakakI ruchi karanI, j~nAyakakI mahimA karanI, j~nAyakakA j~nAn karanA. j~nAyak kyA hai, usake vichAr karanA. usake dravya-guN-paryAy kyA hai, usakA svarUp kyA hai? lekin vah samajhaneke liye vichAr, shAstra aur gurudevane kyA kahA hai, un sabakA vichAr karanA. dhyey ek hI-j~nAyakako grahaN karanA.

grahaN ho, grahaN karaneke hetuse dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Adi sab j~nAyak kaise grahaN ho, usake liye hai. jIvaname.n dev-guru-shAstrakA raTan rahe vahI sarvotkR^iShTa hai na. bAkI sa.nsAr to chalatA hI rahatA hai. sa.nsAr to hai hI, parantu gR^ihasthAshramame.n andar AtmAkI ruchi rahe, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA rahe, jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrakI mahimA rahe aur AtmAkI ruchi rahe, vahI manuShyajIvanakA kartavya to ek hI hai. j~nAyak AtmAkI mahimA, usakI ruchi aur vah nahI.n ho vahA.N shubhabhAvame.n jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra hR^idayame.n rahe, vahI manuShyajIvanakA kartavya hai.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyakake alAvA sab para. vibhAvabhAv apanI paryAyame.n hote hai.n, parantu usakA svabhAv bhinna hai. isaliye vikalpa bhI (par). sab usame.n le lenA. dravyakarma, bhAvakarma aur nokarma Adi saba.

mumukShuH- ek samayakI paryAy bhI parame.n AtI hai?

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samAdhAnaH- mukhyarUpase yah sharIr, dravyakarma aur bhAvakarma, shubhAshubh vikalpa. guN aur paryAy to jo shuddha paryAy aur guN, koI apekShAse use par kahaneme.n AtA hai. vAstavik rUpase aise parame.n nahI.n Ate hai.n. guN apane chaitanyake sAth ekamek hai.n. aur paryAy, chaitanyakI pariNati pariNamit hokar paryAy hotI hai, shuddha paryAya. use dravyadR^iShTike jorame.n par kahaneme.n AtA hai. usake bhed paDe, vikalpake bhedame.n aTakanA nahI.n. parantu vah vAstavame.n apane vedanase bhinna nahI.n hai. vah alag hai, usame.n vivek karanA paDatA hai.