Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 53.

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mumukShuH- .. hotA hai, rAg bhI hai, vikalpa bhI hai aur sAth-sAth j~nAnakA nirNay bhI hotA hai ki mai.n yahI hU.N, yahI hU.N. to j~nAyakakA nirNay bahut gaharAIme.n jAy to vah barAbar hai? vikalpake sAtha.

samAdhAnaH- vikalpa sAthame.n hotA hai. parantu pahale vikalpa sAthame.n hotA hai aur nirNay hotA hai. vikalpa ChUTakar bAdame.n hotA hai. vikalpa sAthame.n hotA hai. mai.n yah j~nAyak hU.N, parantu apane lakShaNako barAbar pahachAnanA chAhiye ki yah j~nAnalakShaN hai vahI mai.n hU.N. yah vikalpa mai.n nahI.n hU.N. vikalpa Aye vah merA svarUp nahI.n hai. jo-jo vibhAv hai vah sab AkUlatAsvarUp hai. vah merA svarUp nahI.n hai. mai.n usase bhinna j~nAyak hU.N. usakA lakShaN barAbar pahachAnanA chAhiye. usakA lakShaN pahachAnakar nirNay karanA chAhiye.

jij~nAsAse nirNay kare parantu pahale jo nirNay AtA hai, vah nirNay andar bhinna hokar nirNay hotA hai tab use yathArtha nirNay kahaneme.n AtA hai. tab tak use vikalpa sahitakA nirNay kahaneme.n AtA hai. hotA hai, gaharA nirNay hotA hai, phir bhI abhI j~nAyakakI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA nahI.n hotI, tab tak yathArtha rUpase nahI.n kahA jAtA. pahale vikalpa sahit nirNay hotA hai.

muumukShuH- vikalpame.n to khyAl AtA hai ki yah bAt barAbar hai, karanA yahI hai. dUsarA jo bhI karate hai.n vah barAbar nahI.n hai. maname.n itanA vishvAs bhI AtA hai. lekin vishvAs TikatA nahI.n hai aur bAhar chalA jAtA hai. bAharakI pravR^ittime.n adhik ruchi kar letA hai. khyAl hone par bhI aisA hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- svaya.nke puruShArthakI mandatA hai. vikalpa sahitakA nirNay hai, parantu abhI andarase svaya.n bhinna hokar, A.nshik bhinna hokar lakShaN pahachAnakar nirNay nahI.n huA hai, isaliye vah bAhar jAtA hai. ruchi bAhar chalI jAtI hai. vah sab andar apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai, isaliye hotA hai. andarase yathArtha bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA ho, j~nAyakako andarase pahachAne to svaya.nkA astitva grahaN kare to vah jyAdA bAhar nahI.n jA sakatA. lekin vah to sthUl nirNay kiyA hai, andar lakShaNako pahachAnakar nirNay nahI.n kiyA hai. andar yathArtha nirNay nahI.n huA hai. parantu jab tak vah nahI.n hotA hai tab tak


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aisA sthUl nirNay AtA hai. lekin abhI puruShArthakI mandatA hai, isaliye bAhar jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- bhedaj~nAn kaise karanA? vichArame.n to AtA hai, parantu andarame.n vAstavame.n kaise bhedaj~nAn karanA?

samAdhAnaH- apanA lakShaN pahachAne ki yah jAnanevAlA hai vahI mai.n hU.N. yah jAnanevAlA mai.n hU.N, yah sharIr jaD kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. yah jo vikalpa Ate hai.n, vah svaya.n svaya.nko jAnate nahI.n, andar jAnanevAlA bhinna hai. jAnanevAlA bhinna hai, usakA lakShaN barAbar pahachAnakar, usakA astitva grahaN kare ki yah j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N. lakShaN dvArA pUre j~nAyakako grahaN karake, yah j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N, aisA nakkI karake j~nAyakame.n dR^iDhatA rakhakar bAra.nbAr j~nAyakake astitvako aise grahaN kare ki usase bhinna hI nahI.n ho. bAra.nbAr jo vikalpa Aye usase mai.n bhinna hU.N, bhinna hU.N. aisI pariNatiko andarase dR^iDh kare to andarame.n bhedaj~nAn ho.

... bhinna paDe ki yah j~nAyak mai.n hU.N, yah vikalpa mai.n nahI.n. yah j~nAyak mai.n hU.N, mai.n yah nahI.n hU.N. is prakAr bAra.nbAr j~nAyakakI pariNatiko dR^iDh kare. bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs kare. jabatak nahI.n ho tabatak abhyAs kare, bhAvanA kare, jij~nAsA kare. bAra.nbAr usakI laganI lagAye. jabatak nahI.n ho tabatak bAra.nbAr aise karatA hI rahe. usakI mahimA, usakA lakShaN pahachAne, usakA vichAr, sab vahI bAra.nbAr karatA rahe, jabatak nahI.n hotA tabataka. bAra.nbAr usakA prayAs karatA rahe. nahI.n ho tabatak bAra.nbAr karatA rahe. nirNay ChUT jAy to bhI bAra.nbAr dR^iDh karatA rahe. bAra.nbAr bhedaj~nAn karatA rahe. upAy ek hI hai.

apane astitvako grahaN karake, usakI dR^iDhatA karake bAra.nbAr use grahaN kare. bAra.nbAr usakI dR^iDhatA karatA rahe. bAra.nbAr vah ChUT na jAy isaliye bAra.nbAr usakA prayatna karatA rahe. ek hI karanA hai. jo muktiko prApta hue, ve bhedaj~nAnase hI prApta hue hai.n. jo nahI.n hue hai.n, ve bhedaj~nAnake abhAvase nahI.n hue hai.n. bhedaj~nAn karanekA bAra.nbAr prayatna karate rahanA. yah j~nAyak hI mai.n hU.N aur yah sab mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aise svaya.nke astitvako grahaN karake dR^iDhatA karatA rahe, bAra.nbAra. bAra.nbAr dR^iDhatA karaneke bAd vikalpa ChUTate hai.n. tab tak usane svaya.nko barAbar grahaN nahI.n kiyA hai to usakA vikalpa bhI kaise ChUTe? vikalpame.n hI ghumatA rahatA hai. ekame.nse dUsareme.n, dUsareme.nse tIsareme.n. shubhAshubh, shubhAshubhake vikalpame.n hI palaTA khAtA rahatA hai. is or palaTA khAtA hai, is or palaTA nahI.n khAtA. j~nAyakakI or palaTatA nahI.n hai aur is or anAdise palaTatA rahatA hai. anAdise shubhAshubh bhAvo.nme.n palaTA khAtA rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- andarakA vikalpa kaise karanA? bAharakA hI hotA hai.


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samAdhAnaH- j~nAyakako grahaN karanekI or (jAnA hai). vikalpa nahI.n karanekA hai, parantu j~nAyakakI or jAnA hai. pariNatikA palaTA honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- vah kaise?

samAdhAnaH- andar jij~nAsA kare, andar laganI lagI ho to andar gaye binA rahe hI nahI.n. svaya.nko kahI.n chain nahI.n paDe, bAhar kahI.n ruche nahI.n, kahI.n rukanA achChA lage nahI.n. kShaN-kShaName.n mujhe j~nAyak kaise pahachAname.n Aye? mujhe j~nAyak kaise pahachAname.n Aye? utanI laganI lage to vah palaTA khAya. a.ntarame.nse laganI laganI chAhiye, to palaTA khAya. utanI laganI lagI nahI.n hai, utanI j~nAyakakI mahimA nahI.n AtI hai. bAharase utanI tuchChatA nahI.n lagatI hai. to palaTA kahA.Nse ho? andar svaya.nko laganA chAhiye.

.. prApta kar lete hai.n. nahI.n prApta karate hai.n unhe.n der lagatI hai. shivabhUti kuCh nahI.n jAnate the. bAI dAl dho rahI thI. ChilakA alag, dAl alaga. aisA karake, merA AtmA bhinna aur yah vibhAv bhinna. aisA karake a.ntarame.n Utar gaye. a.ntarame.nse pragaT kiyA. jyAdA nahI.n jAnate the to bhI.

mumukShuH- hame.n vishvAs AtA hai vah to a.ntarase hI AtA hai. abhI jitane vichAr Ate hai.n, vah a.ntarase hI Ate hai.n, aisA nahI.n hai ki Upar-Uparase Ate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- vah to a.ntarase Aye, vAstavame.n to andar svabhAvame.nse AnA chAhiye. yah satya hai, aisA svaya.nko a.ntarase AtA ho, parantu svabhAv grahaN karake Aye vah alag bAt hai. vah alag bAt hai.

mumukShuH- kisIko kShaName.n A jAtA hai, kisIko nahI.n AtA hai, usame.n ...?

samAdhAnaH- usame.n svaya.nke puruShArthakI mandatA hai. kisIko jaldI hotA hai, kisIko der lagatI hai. svaya.nkI mandatA hai. karma to nimitta mAtra hai, vah kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. na ho tabatak bhagavAnane kyA kahA hai? gurudevane kyA kahA hai? shAstrame.n kyA AtA hai? usakA vichAr, usakA vA.nchan, usakA svAdhyAy bAra.nbAr karatA rahe aur j~nAyak kaise pahachAnu.N, usakI bAra.nbAr jij~nAs kare aur bAra.nbAr laganI lagAye.

mumukShuH- jabatak andarame.n ruchi nahI.n lagatI, hame.n to vahI lagatA hai. bAhar bahut ruchi ho jAtI hai, bAhya bhAvo.nme.n. to aisA lagatA hai ki andarame.n nahI.n AtI. hamAre maname.n aisA lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarakI ruchi ho, vah bAharame.n utanA tanmay nahI.n hotA hai. jise a.ntarakI lagI ho, j~nAyakakI mahimA, use vibhAvase to kuCh had tak vairAgya A jAy, yah sab tuchCha hai, sArabhUt nahI.n hai. sArabhUt to AtmA hai. utanA tanmay ho jAy to a.ntarame.nse kam ho jAy, vah to sIdhI bAt hai. bAharame.n utanA tanmay ho jAy


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to. a.ntar khaTak rahanI chAhiye ki yah sab hai, vah sArabhUt nahI.n hai. andar svaya.nko hove nahI.n, lekin khaTak to laganI chAhiye ki yah sab sArabhUt nahI.n hai, sArabhUt to merA AtmA hai. aise khaTak laganI chAhiye. usakA artha yah hai ki jyAdA khaTak honI chAhiye. mAtra khaTakase kuCh nahI.n hotA, isaliye tIvra khaTak laganI chAhiye.

... kArya kahA.Nse Aye? kAraN thoDA (ho tat) kArya nahI.n AtA. jitanA usakA kAraN de utanA hI kArya Aye. andar jitanI svaya.nko lagI ho, andar jij~nAsA, laganI lagI ho, utanA andar svaya.n puruShArtha kare to kArya Aye. kAraN binA kArya kahA.Nse Aye? Ananda (Adi) sab AtmAme.n hI bharA hai. bAhar jAtA hai utanI svaya.nkI kShati hai ki bAhar ekatva hokar, tanmay hokar jAtA hai.

... sAdhakako avalamban to dR^iShTime.n hotA hai. shraddhAke andar shuddhAtma dravyakA Alamban honA chAhiye. jo shuddhAtmA anAdiana.nt svaya.n dravya vastu hai, vah vastu shuddha svarUp hI hai. us vastukA avalamban sAdhakako hotA hai. arthAt mUl avalamban to use shuddhAtmAkA hai, parantu a.ntarame.n sthir nahI.n ho sakatA hai isaliye upayog bAhar AtA hai. isaliye bAharame.n dev-guru-shAstrake shubhabhAvame.n hai. aur shubhabhAvakA avalamban hai vah vyavahArame.n hai. a.ntarame.n nishchayakA avalamban shuddhAtmAkA hai. bAharame.n shubhabhAvame.n bAhar Aye to jinendradev, guru aur shAstra (kA avalamban hotA hai). parantu mUl avalamban to shuddhAtmAkA hai. use dravya par hI dR^iShTi rahatI hai. j~nAyak par hI dR^iShTi rahatI hai (ki) mai.n yah shuddhAtmA hU.N. usake sivA sab mujhase bhinna hai, sab par hai.

... mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N, is prakAr j~nAyak par hI dR^iShTi (rahatI hai). bAharame.n upayog jAye to bhI usakI dR^iShTi to j~nAyak par hI rahatI hai. bAhar shubhabhAv Aye to bhI use dR^iShTi to ek j~nAyak par hI rahatI hai. j~nAyakakA avalamban use ChUTatA hI nahI.n. j~nAyakakA Ashray to use sadA rahatA hI hai. upayog bAhar Aye to shubhabhAvame.n dev- guru-shAstra, jinho.nne pUrNatA prApta kI aise dev aur guru jo sAdhanA karate hai.n, aur shAstro.nme.n jo vastukA svarUp batAyA hai, usakA alamban use vyavahArase shubhabhAvame.n hotA hai. parantu us vakta bhI shubhabhAv merA svarUp nahI.n hai, mai.n usase bhinna hU.N. aisI dR^iShTi aur j~nAn use sAthame.n vartate hai.n. aur A.nshik j~nAyakakI pariNati bhI sAthame.n hotI hai. use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA sadA vartatI hI hai, bAhar upayog Aye to bhI.

mai.n, in sab bhAvo.nse bhinna shuddhAtmA hU.N. j~nAyakakI dhArA sadA vartatI hai. udayadhArA aur j~nAnadhArA dono.n sAthame.n vartatI hai. bAharame.n shubhabhAvame.n dev-guru-shAstrakA avalamban hotA hai. andar pUrNatA prApta nahI.n ho, andar pUrNarUpase sthir nahI.n ho sakatA hai, j~nAyakakI pariNati pragaT huyI, lekin usame.n pUrNa lInatA nahI.n hotI hai isaliye upayog bAhar


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AtA hai. shubhabhAvame.n dev-guru-shAstrakA avalamban hotA hai.

mumukShuH- anubhav nahI.n huA hai, aise jIvakI kaisI paristhiti hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- jise anubhav nahI.n huA hai, use bhI mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise grahaN ho, usakI jij~nAsA aur ruchi rahA kare. mujhe j~nAyak kaise samajhame.n Aye? j~nAyakakA yathArtharUpase avalamban (kaise ho)? mai.n shuddhAtmA hU.N, usakA avalamban mujhe kaise Aye aur yathArtha rUpase vah pariNati kaise pragaT ho, usakI bhAvanA andar rahe. vichAro.nse nirNay kare ki mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N. yah shubhAshubh bhAv merA svarUp nahI.n hai. aise vichArase nakkI kiyA lekin yathArtha avalamban kaise ho? usakI bhAvanA ho, usakI ruchi rahe, usakI khaTak rahe. use nira.ntar khaTak rahA kare ki mujhe j~nAyakakA avalamban kais prApta ho? usakI ruchi rahA kare.

a.ntarame.n vah pragaT nahI.n huA hai to bAharame.n use dev-guru-shAstrakA avalamban hotA hai. bhagavAnane jo prApta kiyA, guuru sAdhanA karate hai.n, shAstra mArga batAte hai.n. shubhabhAvame.n use dev-guru-shAstra (kA avalamban hotA hai), lekin a.ntarame.n use khaTak rahatI hai (ki) mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise grahaN ho? use rahatA hI hai. a.ntarame.n aisI ruchi rahatI hai. mumukShuko andarase khaTak nahI.n jAtI ki mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise grahaN ho? bAharame.n ashubhabhAvase bachaneko vah shubhabhAvame.n khaDA rahatA hai. jinendradevakI mahimA, shAstrakA chi.ntavan, gurukI mahimA Adi sab use hotA hai.

sab kAyAme juDatA hai. jinendra devake, guruke, shAstrake sab kAyAme.n juDatA hai. jinho.nne pragaT kiyA un par use bhakti Aye binA nahI.n rahatI, isaliye vah sab kAyAme.n juDatA hai. bhagavAnakA, gurukI prabhAvanA, gurukI sevA, gurukI bhakti, gurune kyA kahA hai, gurune kyA mArga batAyA hai, usake vichAr, shAstrame.n kyA AtA hai, tattvake vichAr andar Ate rahe. dravya-guN-paryAy, AtmAkA svarUp, paradravyakA kyA svarUp, tattvake vichAr Ate rahe. vah sab use hotA hai. ... palaTatA hai. ashubhabhAvame.nse shubhabhAvame.n dishA palaTatA hai aur shuddhAtmAkI khaTak andar rahA karatI hai.

mumukShuH- shuddhAtmAkI mahimA..

samAdhAnaH- shuddhAtmA to mahimAsvarUp hI hai. sab chaitanyame.n bharA hai, chaitanya ananta guNo.nse bharapUr hai. anupam tattva hai. use kisIkI upamA lAgU nahI.n paDatI. jagatake kisI bhI padArthakI upamA chaitanyako-shuddhAtmAko lAgU nahI.n paDatI. usakA j~nAn anupam, usakA Ananda anupam, usake ananta guN anupama. chaitanya to anupam tattva hai, use koI upamA lAgU nahI.n paDatI. aisA anupam tattva hai. usakI mahimA use AnI chAhiye ki yah sab sArabhUt nahI.n hai, sArabhUt merA AtmA hai aur vah anupam hai. jagatakI koI vastu


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anupam nahI.n hai. jagatake koI padArtha anupam nahI.n hai ki mahimA yogya nahI.n hai. parantu merA AtmA ek anupam hai, jise koI upamA nahI.n dI jAtI. aisI mahimA Aye, andar chaitanyakI-shuddhAtmAkI mahimA Aye, bAharase haTe, mahimAvAlA padArtha ho to yah ek merA chaitanya shuddhAtmA chaitanyadev mahimAva.nt hai.

bhagavAnane jo prApta kiyA, guru jo sAdhanA karate hai.n, vah padArtha koI anupam hai. gurudev jo vANIme.n kah rahe hai.n, AtmAkI mahimA prakAshate hai.n, shAstrame.n usakI mahimA AtI hai, shAstrame.n usakA svarUp Aye, gurukI vANIme.n Aye vah padArtha koI alag hai. aise a.ntarame.nse svaya.n vichAr karake nakkI karake usakI svaya.nkI mahimA a.ntarame.n Aye. arthAt use pragaT karanekA svaya.n prayatna kare. usake binA chain paDe nahI.n. usIkI laganI lage, usIkA bAra.nbAr raTan, yAd (kare), bAra.nbAr usake vichAr kare.

mumukShuH- .. AtmAkI mahimA-j~nAyakakI mahimA aur bAharame.n dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA. ek sva hai aur ek par hai. abhiprAyame.n dono.n mahimA ekasAth kaise Tik sake?

samAdhAnaH- abhiprAy chaitanyakA hai. abhiprAyame.n chaitanyakI mahimA hai aur dev- guru-shAstrakI use mahimA to hai. mahimAva.nt padArtha to mai.n hU.N aur mahimAva.nt padArtha jo hai use dev-guru-shAstrane pragaT kiyA hai. isaliye usakI mahimA use AtI hai. dono.n sAth Tik sakate hai.n. bAharakA jo hai vah to upayogarUp hotA hai. yah a.ntar abhiprAyame.n hai. abhiprAyame.n shuddhAtmAkI mahimA (hai).

jo shuddhAtmA hai vah mahimAva.nt hai. aisA mahimAva.nt padArtha bhagavAnane prApta kiyA hai aur guru usakI sAdhan kar rahe haiai.n, shAstro.nme.n usakA varNan AtA hai. isaliye usakI mahimA Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n. jisakI mahimA mujhe lagI, vah mahimAva.nt padArtha jisane prApta kiyA, us par usakI mahimA Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. unako vah dikhAI detA hai, andarame.n svaya.n to nahI.n dekh sakatA hai. a.ntarame.n svaya.n vichAr karake a.ntarame.n jAye tab use usakI svAnubhUti hotI hai.

yah to bhagavAnane prApta kiyA hai, gurukI vANIme.n AtA hai. jinho.nne prApta kiyA hai usakI mahimA use AtI hai. aisA padArtha jinho.nne prApta kiyA ve dhanya hai.n, ve pUjane yogya hai.n. sAthame.n rahaneme.n koI dikkat nahI.n hai. vah to upayogame.n AtA hai aur yah andar abhiprAyame.n hai.

mumukShuH- ek abhiprAyame.n AtA hai aur ek upayogame.n AtA hai. is prakAr do prakArame.n pharka paDA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, do prakArame.n pharka hai. shraddhA dono.n par hai. shraddhAme.n dono.n hai. shuddhAtmA


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bhI mahimAva.nt hai aur dev-guru-shAstra bhI mahimAva.nt hai. lekin upayogame.n to bAhar ho tab bAharame.n upayog hai. a.ntarame.n to abhI svaya.n gayA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- Asha.nkA aisI hotI hai ki sva aur par dono.nkI mahimA ekasAth kaise rah sake?

samAdhAnaH- ek shraddhAme.n rahatA hai aur ek upayogame.n AtA hai, bAhar hotA hai taba. svaya.nkI mahimA Aye. bhagavAnakI mahimA Aye aur apanI AtI hai. aise bhI AtA hai, bhagavAnako pahachAne vah svaya.nko pahachAne, svaya.nko pahachAne vah bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai. bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAyako pahachAne vah svaya.nko pahachAnatA hai. svaya.nke dravya-guN-paryAyako pahachAnatA hai vah bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai. aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. lekin use sAthame.n rahaneme.n dikkat nahI.n hai. ek shraddhAme.n rahatA hai, ek upayogame.n rahatA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!
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