Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 72.

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mumukShuH- ApakI bAtase bahut himmat A gayI. nahI.n to andarame.n koI vichAr karate hai.n to kuCh samajhame.n nahI.n AtA. vikalpo.nme.n ... to bhI kuCh nahI.n milatA to aisA lagatA hai ki AtmAkA milanA mushkil hai. lekin ApakI kR^ipAse bahut himmat A gayI.

samAdhAnaH- AtmAkA milanA mushkil nahI.n hai. AtmA svaya.n hI hai. svaya.n svaya.nko bhUl gayA hai. ananta kAlase svaya.n svaya.nko bhUl gayA. j~nAyak svabhAv, j~nAnasvabhAvako grahaN kar, j~nAyakako grahaN kar le to samIp hI hai, dUr nahI.n hai. parantu a.ntarame.n- bhItarame.n anAdikAlake abhyAsake kAraN vikalpa-vikalpakI aisI ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai ki bhinna karanA mushkil ho gayA. svabhAv to sulabh hai, vibhAv durlabh hai.

parapadArtha ananta kAl gayA to bhI apanA nahI.n huA. svabhAv to saral aur sugam hai. svaya.n hI hai, kahI.n bAhar khojane nahI.n jAnA hai. a.ntarame.n dekhe to svaya.n hI, sva svaya.n hI hai. apanA astitva, j~nAyakakA astitva maujUd hI hai. ananta kAl gayA to bhI parapadArtha apanA nahI.n huA. par to par hI hai, sva to sva hI hai. AtmAko ek bAr grahaN kare, pratham bhUmikA vikaT hai, parantu ek bAr AtmAko grahaN kare to phir mArga sulabh, sugam ho jAtA hai. alpa kAlame.n darshan, j~nAn, chAritra pUrNa pragaT karake usakI mukti ho jAtI hai, kevalaj~nAn prApta hotA hai.

vibhAv, parapadArtha.. anantakAl gayA to bhI parapadArtha apanA nahI.n hotA. svabhAv to sahaj sugam hai. ek bAr usako grahaN kare to turanta hI pragaT hotA hai. lekin pratham bhUmikA vikaT hotI hai. anAdi kAlake abhyAsake kAraN aisI ekatvabuddhi ho gayI hai, use toDakar use a.ntarame.n jAnA duShkar ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! sab dravya to shuddha hai, jIvake sAth hI anAdi kAlase ashuddhatA lagI huyI hai, samajhame.n nahI.n AyA.

samAdhAnaH- apanI bhUlake kAraNa. sab shuddha hai, AtmA bhI shuddha hai. apanI bhUlase ashuddhatA ho rahI hai. sab dravyame.n to aisA hai ki usame.n bhUl (nahI.n hotI). chaitanya hai to bhUl-bhrAntime.n paDA hai, isaliye usame.n ashuddhatA hotI hai. svaya.n shuddha honeke bAvajUd


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vah vibhAv pariNatikI or jA rahA hai, AshcharyakI bAt hai. svaya.n chaitanya hokar bhI, jAnanevAlA hone par bhI parapadArthakI or bhrAnti karake vahA.N jAtA hai, AshcharyakI bAt hai. chaitanyame.n bhUl ho rahI hai. (dravya to) shuddha hai, paryAyame.n bhUl ho rahI hai. prayojanabhUt tattva jAne to AtmAkI prApti to ho sakatI hai.

mumukShuH- ruchikI tIvratA..

samAdhAnaH- ruchikI tIvratA. puruShArtha kare to ho sakatA hai. nakkI kare ki vibhAvame.n kuCh sukh nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- bAhar achChA to dikhatA hai, vah kaise jame andar ki vibhAvame.n nahI.n hai?

samAdhAnaH- bAhar achChA lagatA hai. bhItarame.n achChA laganeke liye nakkI kare, svabhAvako grahaN karake nakkI kare ki svabhAvame.n hI achChA hai. vibhAvame.n achChA nahI.n hai, vah sab to duHkharUp-AkulatArUp hai. aisA nakkI karanA chAhiye, aisA dR^iDh nishchay karanA chAhiye ki yah sab to AkulatA-AkulatA hai, kahI.n sukh dikhAI nahI.n detA. sab vikalpakI jAlame.n apanI ichChA anusAr koI parapadArtha pariNamatA nahI.n. sab vikalpame.n AkulatA-duHkh hai. aisA yathArtha nakkI kare. svabhAvako nakkI kare ki yah merA svabhAv hai. pratIti dR^iDh kare ki j~nAyakame.n hI sukh hai. j~nAyak svabhAv hI mahimAva.nt hai. mahimAkA bhaNDAr ho to j~nAyak hai. bAharakI mahimA TUT jAy, svabhAvakI mahimA Ave, svabhAvakI jarUrat lage, vibhAvase virakti Aye ki vibhAvame.n achChA nahI.n hai. svabhAvakI mahimA lage. svabhAvako vichAr karake grahaN kare ki sukh to isame.n hI hai, bAhar kahI.n nahI.n hai. aisA vichAr karake j~nAyak svabhAvako grahaN kare, vibhAvase virakti ho, svabhAvakI mahimA Aye to is prakAr ruchiko dR^iDh kare.

... vichAr kar-karake dR^iDh karatA rahe. .. mahApuruSh bhI sab ChoDakar, AtmAko- svabhAvako grahaN karake a.ntarase virakti aur svabhAvakI mahimA lAkar AtmAkI sAdhanA kI hai. AtmA hI sarvashreShTha padArtha hai. aur a.ntarame.n vichAr karake nakkI kare ki yah svabhAv hI mahimAva.nt hai. isaprakAr ruchiko dR^iDh kare.

mumukShuH- .. kuCh samajhame.n nahI.n AyA .. gurudevashrIse mai.nne pUChA, mahArAjashrI! kalyANake liye kyA karanA? to bole, paryAyako andar bAla.

samAdhAnaH- paryAy bAhar jAtI hai, use svabhAvakI or jhukA. arthAt dravya par dR^iShTi kar to paryAy bhItarame.n jAtI hai. paryAyako jhukA.

mumukShuH- to paryAy aur dravya koI judI chIj hai, mAtAjI! ki ...

samAdhAnaH- dravya aur paryAy aise judI chIj nahI.n hai. dravyakI paryAy hai, parantu


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usame.n vah a.nsh hai aur (dravya) a.nshI hai. itanA bhed hai. a.nsh-a.nshIkA bhed hai. sarvathA bhed-koI bhinna-bhinna TUkaDe nahI.n hai, bhinna TUkaDA nahI.n hai ki paryAy koI bhinna hai aur dravya bhinna hai. dravya bhinna hai aur paryAy bhinna hai. aisA ho to paryAy dravya ho jAya. paryAy judI hove to paryAy dravya ho jAya. paryAy vaise bhinna nahI.n hai. sarva apekShAse bhinna hai. parantu a.nsh hai aur yah a.nshI hai, itanA bhed hai. ek a.nsh hai, ek a.nshI hai, itanA bhed hai.

dravyakI paryAy hai, paryAy koI dUsarekI nahI.n hai. dravyakA vedan apaneko hotA hai. svabhAvakI or jhuke, svabhAvakA vedan hove to paryAy hotI hai. parantu vah vedan svaya.nko jAnaneme.n jAtA hai, vedan koI dUsareko nahI.n hotA. apaneko vedan hotA hai. paryAy apane dravyame.nse pragaT hotI hai. bAharase nahI.n AtI hai.

mumukShuH- samavAy-bhavitavyatA, kAlalabdhi, puruShArtha ek hI samayame.n sab samavAy kaise hote hai.n? ... ek hI samayame.n puruShArtha aur ...

samAdhAnaH- dono.n ekasAth hote hai.n. puruShArtha jo kiyA vah apanI or jhukA, j~nAyakakI or puruShArtha jhukA, svaya.n puruShArtha karake apanI or jhukA vah puruShArtha huA. aur usI samay pariNati jo usakA svabhAv thA, us prakArase jaise honevAlA thA vaise huA. vah sab sAthame.n hotA hai. dono.n virodhI lage parantu sab sAthame.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- kramabaddhaparyAy aur puruShArtha, dono.n virUddha lagate hai.n. puruShArthase jo vastu pragaT huyI, usI samay kramabaddhaparyAy huyI?

samAdhAnaH- sab ekasAth hotA hai. kramabaddha aur puruShArthame.n sambandha hai. jo hone yogya thA vah huA, parantu vah hone yogya us prakArase hotA hai ki puruShArthase hotA hai. puruShArtha, hone yogya, svabhAv Adi sab ekasAth hote hai.n. sab ekasAth hote hai.n. kShayopasham, us prakArakA kShayopashamabhAv sab ekasAth hotA hai.

mumukShuH- kyo.nki virodhAbhAs to lagatA hai..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisA lage.

mumukShuH- .. vikalpAtmak vichAr Aye ki shuddha pariNatike samay vikalpa to rahatA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- shuddha pariNatike samay vikalpa nahI.n ho to bhI vikalpake binA bhI upayog to hotA hai. upayog svaya.n svaya.nko jAnatA hai. bAhar vikalpa yAnI rAgakA vikalpa. rAgavAlA vikalpa ChUT jAy to bhI nirvikalparUpase usakA jAnanA chalA nahI.n jAtA. jAnanekA svabhAv to khaDA hI rahatA hai. jAnatA hai, svaya.n svabhAvako jAnatA hai. upayog bAhar nahI.n hai. upayog yAnI vikalpAtmak aisA usakA artha nahI.n hotA.


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mumukShuH- svabhAv..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, svabhAvako jAnatA hai, svabhAvako jAnatA hai. svabhAvakI or upayog nirvikalpapane hai. upayog nirvikalpa hai. vikalpa ho hI upayog kahaneme.n Aye aisA nahI.n hai. jAne, svaya.nko jAnatA hai. apanI or upayog gayA, parantu nirvikalpapane jAtA hai. nirvikalpa upayogarUp hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- rAg sAthame.n hai isaliye vikalpa hotA hai. rAg ChUTe, vikalpa TUTakar svaya.n a.ntarame.n jAy to j~nAnasvabhAv nAsh nahI.n ho jAtA, j~nAn to j~nAn hI hai, usakA jAnanA kahI.n chalA nahI.n jAtA. jAnanekI pariNati jAnanerUp hI hai. apanI or upayog gayA vah nirvikalpa hai. rAgakA vikalpa nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- upayog us vakta bhI kAm kar rahA hai.

samAdhAnaH- kAm karatA hI hai. rAgakA vikalpa ho to hI upayog kAm kare, aisA nahI.n hai. utpAd-vyay-dhruv tIno.nme.n virodh lage to bhI tIno.n ek samayame.n sAthame.n hote hai.n. dhruv dhruvarUp rahatA hai, utpAd aur vyay dono.n virodhI lagate hai.n. to bhI sab ek samayame.n hote hai.n. vaise puruShArtha, kramabaddha sab sAthame.n hI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ... AtmA pUrA usame.n lIn ho jAtA hai. bhagavAnake sAth...

samAdhAnaH- pUrA lIn nahI.n ho jAtA. j~nAyakakI j~nAyakarUp pariNati rahakar bIchame.n jo shubhabhAv Ate hai.n, us shubhabhAvakI pariNati kAm karatI hai. shubhabhAv, vANI sab bhinna-bhinna hai.n. shubhabhAv bhI bhinna hai aur vANI bhI bhinna hai. sabakA nimitta naimittik sambandha hai. shubhabhAv aur vANIme.n sambandha hotA hai, isaliye us prakArakI vANI nIkalatI hai, vaise bhAv hote hai.n, phir bhI andar j~nAyakakI pariNati bhinna rahatI hai. bAhar lIn ho gayA to j~nAyak nahI.n rahatA, aisA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! ..ke vikalpame.n to j~nAnIpuruSh kuCh kare nahI.n, andar AtmAke sAth itane ekAkAr hote hai.n to j~nAyakakI pariNati..

samAdhAnaH- itanI sthUl dR^iShTise dekhanA vah dekhanA nahI.n hai. a.ntar dR^iShTise dekhanA hai. vah kharI parIkShA hai. bAhya dR^iShTise dekhanA vah kharA dekhanA nahI.n hai. a.ntarakI pariNatiko (dekhanA hai). shrImad kahate hai.n na? sthUlatAse dekhanA, bAharase dekhanA vah vAstavik nahI.n hai. a.ntarakI pariNati alag hotI hai. shAstrame.n AtA hai na? hAthIke dikhAneke dA.nt alag aur chabAneke dA.nt alag hote haiai.n. bAharase nAp nahI.n kiyA jAtA. shubhabhAvame.n pUre (lIn) dikhAI de to bhI j~nAyak bhinna hotA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! ... ApakA do barAbar dikhAI detA hai ki kahI.n bhI...


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samAdhAnaH- pariNati bhinna hI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- ... us vakta bhedaj~nAn karanA ki mai.n sharIrase bhinna hU.N, to vah vAstavik sharaN hai, yA bhagavAnako yAd karanA, vah sharaN hai? us duHkhase kaise dUr honA?

samAdhAnaH- sharIrakI vedanA bhinna aur AtmA bhinna hai. andar bhinna AtmAko jAnanA vah sharaN hai. mukhya sharaN vah hai. mai.n AtmA jAnanevAlA, mai.n j~nAyak, merA svabhAv jAnanekA hai, mai.n sharIr nahI.n hU.N, mai.n sharIrase atyanta bhinna hU.N. usakI vedanAme.n jo andar duHkh hotA hai, vah duHkh bhI merA svarUp nahI.n hai. vikalpa Aye ki yah sharIr so mai.n aur mai.n hI sharIr hU.N, usake sAth dab jAtA hai, rAgake kAraNa. vah rAg bhI merA svarUp nahI.n hai aur yah sharIr bhI mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n to jAnanevAlA, mukhya sharaN vah hai. sAthame.n shubhabhAvame.n bhagavAn bhI use shubhabhAvanAme.n Aye, bhagavAnako yAd kare, parantu vAstavik sharaN j~nAyakako yAd karanA vah mukhya sharaN hai. lekin sAthame.n bhagavAn yAd Aye binA rahe nahI.n. aise prasa.ngo.nme.n jo AtmArthI ho use bhagavAn, dev-guru-shAstra yAd Aye binA nahI.n rahate. parantu sAth-sAth sharaN to j~nAyakakA sharaN mukhya sharaN hai. j~nAyakako pahachAnanekA prayatna karanA. vedanA sharIrame.n hai, AtmAme.n vedanA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- vah TikatA nahI.n hai, mAtAjI! kShaNik shAtA hotI hai, phir punaH sharIrakI or lakShya jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- bAra.nbAr palaTate rahanA, bAra.nbAra. Tike nahI.n to bAra.nbAr AtmAko- j~nAyakako yAd karate rahanA. us vichArame.n Tik nahI.n pAye to jinendra dev, guru, shAstra, manivar, shAstrame.n kyA kahA hai, gurudevane kyA kahA hai, bhagavAnane kyA kahA hai, aise vichAr kare parantu sAthame.n j~nAyakako yAd kare. j~nAyakakA mukhya sharaN hai. jo munivar AtmAkI sAdhanA karate hai.n, bhinna hI rahate hai.n. munivaro.nkI sAdhanA... pratyek prasa.ngame.n AtmA ekamek ho jAy, aisA nahI.n hai, do dravya bhinna hai. dono.n dravya bhinna hai, ek kahA.N-se ho? jo bhinna hai vah bhinna hI hai.

mumukShuH- tIvra puruShArtha..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, puruShArthako tIvra (karanA). andarase ekatvabuddhi toDe. AtmA bhinna hai vah bhinna hI hai. gR^ihasthAshramame.n samyagdR^iShTi ho, koI bhI prasa.ngame.n bhinna hI rahate hai.n. usame.n ekamek nahI.n hote. sharIrame.n koI vedanA ho athavA kuCh bhI A jAy, koI vyavahArake prasa.ng, pravR^ittike prasa.ngo.nme.n bhI, chakravartIke rAjame.n bhI samyagdR^iShTi bhinna hI rahate hai.n. shAstrame.n dR^iShTAnta AtA hai na? gR^ihakAm karate hue andarase bhinna hI rahate hai.n. unakI j~nAyakakI pariNati bhinna hI rahatI hai. j~nAyak to bhinna hI hai, sharIrakI vedanake samayame.n, aise prasa.ngame.n svaya.n bhinna paDanekA prayatna karanA, bhAvanAko ugra karake. bhinna hai vah bhinna


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ho sakatA hai. bhAvanArUp, parantu bhinna hai vah bhinna hI hai. svaya.n sharIr nahI.n hai. svaya.n andar jAnanevAlA j~nAyak bhinna hI hai.

bAra.nbAr yAd karanA. upayog to palaT jAtA hai. jo duHkh hotA hai vahA.N bAr- bAr (jAtA hai). anAdike abhyAsake kAraN bAra.nbAr vikalpame.n juD jAy to bhI upayogako bAra.nbAr badal denA. bAra.nbAr dev-guru-shAstrako yAd karanA, bAra.nbAr j~nAyakako yAd karanA, bAra.nbAr yAd karanA. isame.n ka.nTAlA lage yA thak jAnA aise nahI.n, bAra.nbAr yAd karanA. apanA svabhAv j~nAyak hI hai. bAra.nbAr yAd karanA.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!
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