Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 71.

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amR^it vANI (bhAg-3)
(prashamamUrti pUjya bahenashrI cha.npAbahen kI
AdhyAtmik tattvacharchA)

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! sat chid Ananda. chidakA artha kyA hai? sachchidAnanda svarUpa.

samAdhAnaH- sat chida. chid arthAt j~nAn hotA hai. chaitanya j~nAn chid, aisA hotA hai. chid arthAt j~nAna. sat j~nAnAnanda svarUp hai.

samAdhAnaH- chetan bhI hotA hai aur j~nAn bhI hotA hai. chid arthAt j~nAna.

mumukShuH- sat jo shabda hai, astitvaguN, usame.n bhAv nahI.n AtA hai. usakA mUlya kyA hai? jaise havAke binA nahI.n chalatA, to usakI mahattA bahut hai. vaise astitvakI mahattA bahut hai, parantu Anandame.n jo bhAv rahA hai, vaisA satame.n bhAv nahI.n AtA. satakI mahimA, sat svarUp hai, satakI mahimA kaise Aye?

samAdhAnaH- vah to jo vastukI maujUdagI hai, us maujUdagIme.n guN hote hai.n. jisakI maujUdagI hI nahI.n hai, usame.n guN kaise? sat vastu hai. ek vastu hai, chaitanya ek hai. jaD hai, chaitanya hai, vaise sab hai. usakA astitva ho, usame.n j~nAn hotA hai, Ananda hotA hai. astitva ho usame.n yah sab hai. astitva hI nahI.n hai, jis vastukI maujUdagI hI nahI.n hai, to j~nAn aur Ananda kisame.n ho.nge? vah sab guN hai. j~nAn, Ananda saba.

sat arthAt ek vastu hai. ek hayAtI hai. mai.n ek AtmA hU.N. hU.N arthAt ek


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astitvaguN, ek astitva, chaitanyarUp merA astitva hai. yah jaD hai, merA astitva nahI.n hai. mai.n to sat svarUp, Ananda svarUp (hU.N). Ananda guN hai, parantu sat ek vastu hai. us vastukI mahattA hai. vastu hai, pahale vastu hai to kaisI hai? j~nAn aur Anandase bharI hai. j~nAn aur Ananda kisame.n hai? satame.n hai. sat-mai.n ek AtmA hU.N. apanA astitva grahaN karanekA hai. yah jaD mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n hU.N. mai.n ek astitvasvarUp vastu hU.N. astitvame.n ek guN nahI.n lenA, pUrA padArtha usame.n A jAtA hai. satarUp vastu hai, usame.n pUrA padArtha A jAtA hai. aur vah padArtha kaisA hai? ki j~nAn aur AnandAdi ananta guNo.nse bharA hai. astitvakI mahimA hai.

pahale is prakAr grahaN kare ki mai.n ek astitva-merI hayAtI hai. mai.n ek satasvarUp AtmA hU.N. sat kaisA hai? satame.n sab (A jAtA hai). j~nAnarUp merA astitva hai, AnandarUp astitva hai, merA ananta guNarUp astitva hai. mere astitva kaisA hai? j~nAn aur Anandase bharapUr merA astitva hai. is prakAr guN aur dravya sab usame.n sAthame.n A jAtA hai, ek satako grahaN karane para.

mumukShuH- ham log kyA kahate hai.n, Ananda .. anubhUti hai, vedan hai, isaliye usame.n bahut bhAv bharA ho aisA lagatA hai. vaise satame.n bhAv nahI.n dikhAI detA.

samAdhAnaH- vah to ek vedan hai. Ananda hai vah vedan hai, isaliye bhAvase bharA hai. j~nAname.n jAnanekA guN hai, isaliye vah bhAvase bharA dikhatA hai. parantu astitva hai vah TikanevAlI vastu hai. jo vastu TikatI hI nahI.n,.. jo TikanevAlI vastu anAdiananta shAshvat hai, jo shAshvat vastu hI nahI.n hai to j~nAn aur Ananda rahee.nge kisame.n? to vedan kisame.n hogA? ek vastu TikatI hai to usame.n j~nAn aur Ananda hai. TikanevAlI vastu hI nahI.n hai to j~nAn aur Ananda kisame.n rahe.nge?

mumukShuH- isaliye shurUAt hI vahA.Nse hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- vahA.Nse-astitvase hotA hai. agni hai vah agni hai, pAnI hai vah pAnI hai. parantu agni aur pAnI. usame.n shItal guN hai, usame.n uShNa guN hai. usake guNase pakaDame.n AtA hai ki uShNa hai vah agni hai aur shItal hai vah pAnI hai. vaise AtmA j~nAn j~nAyakasvarUp jo j~nAyak hai, jisane j~nAyakakA astitva dhAraN kiyA hai vah AtmA hai aur jo jAnatA nahI.n hai vah jaD hai. vah guNake dvArA pakaDame.n AtA hai, parantu usakA astitva hai to pakaDame.n AtA hai. astitvake binA jo dravya hI nahI.n, jo dhruv hI nahI.n hai, binA dhruvake guN kahA.N rahe.nge? dhruv svaya.n vastu hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- astitvaguNake kAraN vastukI hayAtI hai. astitva nahI.n hai to guN


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kahA.N rahe.nge? merA ek chaitanya astitva hai. j~nAnaguNakA astitva hai. AnandakA astitva hai. Ananda astitvase bharA hai. j~nAn, Ananda Adi sab astitvase bhare hai.n. usakA vedan, AnandaguNakA vedan AnandasvarUp hai, jAnanekA jAnanasvarUp, lekin astitva nahI.n hai to vedan kisakA?

mumukShuH- isIliye sachchidAnandame.n pahale sat liyA.

samAdhAnaH- sat-pahale vastu hai. dhruv ek vastu hai. lekin vah hai. hayAtIse TikanevAlI. usakA bhAv vah hai-hayAtI, usakA bhAv vah hai-hayAtI. vah jAnanekA, AnandakA. vedan svaya.nko (hotA hai). anAdise svaya.n duHkhI ho rahA hai, isaliye duHkhase ChUTaneke liye kahate hai.n, sukh AtmAme.n hai. to us or muDatA hai. sukh AtmAme.n hai, bAhar nahI.n hai. isaliye vah sukhakI or muDA. parantu sukh kisame.n rahA hai? sukh bAhar to nahI.n hai. to sukh kis padArthame.n hai?

AtmA padArtha hai. jau maujUdagI rakhatA hai, usame.n sukh hai. maujUdagIke binA sukh kahA.N rahegA? hayAtI sAthame.n hotI hai. hayAtI usakA bhAv hai. astitvakA bhAv maujUdagI rakhanA, vah hai. shAshvat hai. ananta kAl gayA, ananta janma-maraN kiye, kuCh bhI kiyA lekin usakA astitva, j~nAyakakA astitva j~nAyakarUp hI rahA hai. chAhe kisI bhI kShetrame.n rahA, jaDake sAth rahA, chAhe jaise upasarga, pariShah Aye to bhI usakA astitva- j~nAyakakA-chaitanyakA astitva chaitanyarUpase ChUTatA nahI.n, nAsh nahI.n ho jAtA. nigodame.n rahA, narkame.n gayA, kahI.n bhI gayA, chAhe jaise duHkh Aye to bhI chaitanyakA astitva hai, vah astitva maujUdagI rakhatA hai. usakA bhAv hayAtI dharanA hai. apanI hayAtI j~nAyakakI j~nAyakarUp hayAtI ChUTatI hI nahI.n, nAsh nahI.n hotI. usakA bhAv hayAtI rakhanA hai. hai, hayAtI rakhanevAlI vastu hai. usakA koI nAsh nahI.n kar sakatA. aisI dhruv shAshvat vastu hai. usakA bhAv hayAtI rakhanA hai. usakA vedan vah hai ki hayAtI rakhanA. j~nAnakA jAnanekA vedan, AnandakA AnandarUp aur hayAtI rakhanA us prakArakA usakA vedan hai. hayAtI, jo hayAtI hai.

mumukShuH- aisA nirNay..

samAdhAnaH- aisA nirNay kare ki mai.n ek vastu hai. jo ho usakA nirNay hotA hai, nahI.n ho usakA nirNay kaisA? hai use grahaN karatA hai, nahI.n hai usakA grahaN kyA? ek vastu hai. to bhI vah bhAvase bharA hai. dhruva. vah khAlI dhruv nahI.n hai, j~nAyak dhruva. astitva kaisA? j~nAyakakA astitva, AnandakA astitva. sab guNasahit astitva hai. usame.n guN sAthame.n Ate haiai.n. khAlI astitva nahI.n hai, astitva khAlI shuShka astitva nahI.n hai. vah astitva j~nAn Adi ananta guNo.nse bharA astitva hai. hayAtI. hayAtI


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hai aur j~nAnakI hayAtI, AnandakI hayAtI sabakI hayAtI usame.n sAthame.n AtI hai.

mumukShuH- sabake bhAv ...

samAdhAnaH- sabake bhAv us hayAtIme.n samA jAte hai.n. hayAtIme.n akelI hayAtI nahI.n AtI, usame.n sab bhAv sAthame.n A jAte hai.n. ananta guNake bhAv astitvake sAth Ate hai.n.

mumukShuH- AtmasvarUp, sahaj AtmasvarUp ... mushkil lagatA hai, phir bhI AtmAkA svaya.nkA svarUp hai, jitanA bolaneme.n sahaj dikhatA hai, utanA sahaj nahI.n dikhatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- svabhAv sahaj hai, isaliye svaya.n sahaj hai. anAdise vibhAvame.n paDA hai isaliye sahaj nahI.n dikhatA. j~nAn, Ananda, astitva Adi usake sabhI guN anAdi ananta sahaj hai. sahaj vastu svaya.n hai, use kisIne banAyI nahI.n hai. ab, jo svabhAv hotA hai vah sahaj hotA hai. svabhAvakI utpatti karanI paDe aisA nahI.n hai, vah to svabhAvarUp hI hai. svabhAvakI or jAnA, apane svabhAvame.n jAnA vah sahaj hai. ulTa vibhAv (asahaj hai).

par padArthako apanA karanA, vah mushkil hai. vah merA-merA karatA hI rahatA hai, lekin apanA hotA nahI.n. kaise ho? jo apanA nahI.n hai. jaD aur chaitanya dono.n bhinna- bhinna haiai.n. bhinna ho vah ek kaise ho? jaD apanA hotA nahI.n. parantu chaitanyako svaya.nko grahaN karake apanerUp honA ho to vah sahaj hai. apane svabhAvarUp pariNamanA vah sahaj hai.

pAnI shItal hai, pAnIko shItalatArUp pariNamanA sahaj hai. pAnI agnike nimittase garma huA, parantu garma honekA bAd use shItal honA sahaj hai. kyo.nki vah agnise bhinna paDe isaliye vah shItal ho hI jAtA hai. use shItal honA sahaj hai. pAnIko garma rakhanA durlabh hai. parantu shItal honA sahaj hai.

ananta kAl gayA to bhI vah sharIrarUp nahI.n huA. vah mushkil hai, kyo.nki vah to parapadArtha hai. usake sAth rahA to bhI vah jaDarUp nahI.n huA. vah mushkil hai. aur apanI or jhukanA, vah yadi svaya.n j~nAyakako grahaN kiyA to alpa kAlame.n svAnubhUti (hotI hai). yadi a.ntarase grahaN kare to svAnubhUti aur kevalaj~nAn alpa kAlame.n pragaT karatA hai. kyo.nki svaya.nkA svabhAv hai. usake liye ananta kAl nahI.n chAhiye. isame.n to ananta kAl gayA phir bhI apanA hotA nahI.n. aur yahA.N svaya.nko grahaN kiyA to use grahaN karaneke bAd ananta kAl jAtA hI nahI.n. alpa bhavame.n kevalaj~nAnakI prApti karatA hai. isaliye svaya.nko grahaN karanA aur svaya.nkI prApti karanA sahaj hai.

mumukShuH- isaliye sahaj aur sulabh hai. apanI or muDe to turanta...


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samAdhAnaH- apanI or muDe to svaya.n pragaT hotA hI hai. (parapadArtha) apanA hotA nahI.n, apanA karanekA prayatna karatA hai, koI hotA nahI.n. aur yahA.N to yadi svaya.nko grahaN kiyA to alpa kAlame.n apanerUp ho jAtA hai. apanI or muDA so muDA. ek bAr apanI or gayA to phir pahalekI bhA.Nti usakI ekatva pariNati hotI hI nahI.n. alpa kAlame.n apanI or pragaT hue binA rahatA hI nahI.n, aisA sahaj hai. use mushkil lagatA hai. use par-orakA, vibhAv-orakA abhyAs hai, parantu yadi apanI or muDA to sahaj hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! aisA lagatA hai ki ek kShaN vikalpake binA jAtA nahI.n, ek kShaN TikatA nahI.n,.. ek kShaN vikalpako haTA nahI.n sakate. tab aise lagatA hai ki yah sahaj kaise hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye TikatA nahI.n. svaya.n kAraN thoDA de to kArya kahA.N-se Aye? usake liye adhik kAraN chAhiye. pratham bhUmikA vikaT hotI hai, shrImad kahate hai.n na? phir sahaj hai aur saral hai. hameshA pratham bhUmikA vikaT hai. kyo.nki svaya.n dUsare abhyAsame.n hai, vibhAvake abhyAsame.n hai, usame.nse ChUTakar svabhAvame.n AnA use kaThin lagatA hai. parantu ek bAr AyA to sahaj hai. phir to pAnI pAnIko khi.NchatA apane pravAhakI or chalA jAtA hai. vaise svaya.n apane svabhAvame.n chalA jAtA hai, vah sahaj hai. parantu pratham bhUmikA vikaT hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! kShaN-kShaName.n puruShArtha (chAhiye). jaise paisA ek-ek minaTame.n chAhiye, ek kadam nahI.n baDhatA, vaise puruShArtha bhI kShaN-kShaName.n chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- kShaN-kShaName.n puruShArtha chAhiye. vyavahArame.n aisA hai ki paisA chAhiye. AtmAme.n puruShArthakI jarUrat paDatI hai. kShaN-kShaName.n puruShArtha. svaya.nkI jAgR^iti rakhanI chAhiye, to apanI or sahaj hotA hai. yah anAdikA kaisA sahaj (pariNaman hai). use aisA ras hai ki ekake bAd ek vikalpa Aye vah use sahaj ho gayA hai. use utanA prayatna nahI.n karanA paDatA aur ekake bAd ek vikalpa chalate hI rahate hai.n, chalate hI rahatA hai. vah kaisA sahaj (ho gayA hai). vibhAvakI pariNati aisI sahaj ho gayI hai. vaisI kShaN-kShaName.n apanI or jAy aisI apanI or sahaj pariNati ho to apanI or jAye. aisA kar nahI.n sakatA, use vikaT lagatA hai. pAnIko shItal honA sahaj hai. (kyo.nki) apanA svabhAv hai. vaise j~nAyakako j~nAyakarUp pariNamanA sahaj hai. parantu vah karatA nahI.n hai, anAdikA abhyAs par-orakA ho gayA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! shAstrame.n shabda to Ate hai.n ki sahaj Atma svarUp hai. paDhate hai.n, parantu andar .. Apane jo likhA hai ki kShaN-kShaName.n puruShArtha chAhiye athavA jaise


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Ap kahate ho ki pAnI...

samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha kare to sahaj hotA hai. par-orakA use AsAn ho gayA hai. AtmAkA durlabh ho gayA. AtmAkA sulabh hai, kare to hotA hai. pratham bhUmikA vikaT hai, parantu vah Age jAye to sahaj hai aur sugam hai.

pAnI pAnIke pravAhako khI.NchatA DhAlavAle mArgame.n (sahaj chalA jAtA hai). j~nAn- bhedaj~nAnake mArga par yadi svaya.nne apanI pariNatiko moD diyA, vivekake mArgame.n bhedaj~nAnakI or yadi muD gayA to bhedaj~nAnakI Dor aisI hai, dravyadR^iShTikI Dor hAthame.n A gayI. svaya.n svaya.nko apanI or khI.NchatA huA apanI or ekadam jaldI chalA jAtA hai.

... dharasenAchAryako aisA huA ki koI Ave to... svapna AyA thA. unhe.n kShayopasham kitanA! ka.nThastha thA phir bhI yAd ho jAtA thA. pahale likhanekA nahI.n thA. phir unho.nne likhA. lipibaddha kiyA. bhAvali.ngI munirAj AchArya unakI kyA bAt karanI!

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! sabase pahale likhA gayA hai, isake pahale likhanekI ... yah kaise..?

samAdhAnaH- aisA kShayopasham thA, lipibaddha karanekA. unakI shakti thI. likhanekA unako kShayopasham thA. likhanekI kalA to sabako AtI hai, parantu andar shakti utanI hai ki likhanekI AvashyakatA nahI.n. phir aisA lagA ki kAladoShake kAraN sabake kShayopasham aisA hotA jAtA hai isaliye lipibaddha kiyA. pahale chaturtha kAlame.n sab kalA sabako AtI thI. shakti itanI thI ki likhanekI jarUrat nahI.n paDatI thI. sab yAd ho jAtA hai. usame.nse j~nAn pragaT ho jAtA thA. bArah a.ngakA j~nAn bhItarame.nse ho jAtA thA. likhane- paDhanese nahI.n hotA hai, bhItarame.nse ho jAtA hai.

bAdame.n sabakA kShayopasham manda huA, AchAryako vichAr huA ki kisIko yAd nahI.n rahatA aisA kShayopasham ho gayA hai, isaliye lipibaddha kiyA. shAstra likhanekI shakti to thI. kaise shAstra rache! kitanI bAt ShaTakhaNDAgamame.n! unake kShayopashamakI kyA bAt karanI! unakI-AchAryakI dashAkI kyA bAt!!

mumukShuH- .. Apase kaI bAr sunate hai.n phir bhI bhUl jAte hai.n, mAtAjI!

samAdhAnaH- .. abhyAs karanA, usakA Ashay grahaN karake bAra.nbAr bhItarame.n UtAranese hotA hai. shabda yAd nahI.n rahe, bhUl jAy to bhI usakA bhAv yAd rahe, Ashay grahaN karanese ho sakatA hai. itanA kShayopasham to hotA hai ki Ashay grahaN ho sake. shivabhUti muniko to itane shabda bhI yAd nahI.n rahate the. unake gurune kahA ki mA-ruSh, mA- tuSh, utanA bhI yAd nahI.n rahA. bhItaramee.n unho.nne Ashay grahaN kar liyA ki mere guruko aisA kahanA thA ki dAl aur ChilakA (bhinna hai). (ek aurat dAl) dhotI thI.


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tuSh-ChilakA alag aur dAl alag hai.

vaise j~nAyak AtmA bhinna hai aur vibhAv, vikAr sab bhinna-judA hai. aisA Ashay grahaN kar liyA. mAruSh, mAtuSh yAd nahI.n rahA aur mAsatuSh ho gayA. shabda bhUl gaye, parantu Ashay grahaN ho gayA. yah vibhAv pariNati merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, mai.n to j~nAyak hU.N, jAnanevAlA hU.N, aisA mere gurune kahA thA. AtmA bhinna hai. bhinna hai usakA Ashay grahaN karake, j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyakakI pariNati pragaT karake bhItarame.n itanI lInatA ho gayI ki samyagdarshaname.n j~nAyak to grahaN ho gayA aur utanI dR^iDh pratIti huyI aur lInatA bhI utanI ho gayI. chAritra bhI itanA ho gayA ki a.ntarmuhUrtame.n kevalaj~nAn pragaT ho gayA.

is prakAr Ashay grahaN karanese hotA hai. shabdakI vahA.N jarUrat nahI.n paDatI. thoDA bhI Ashay grahaN kar le to ho sakatA hai. sab shAstrakA j~nAn hove, sab hove to achChA hai, isame.n lAbhakA kAraN hotA hai. vichAraneme.n dravya-guN-paryAyakA, utpAd-vyay- dhruvakA svarUp vichAr karaneme.n, AtmAkA svarUp vistArase samajhanase lobh hotA hai. to bhI yAd na rahe to bhI prayojanabhUt tattvako samajh le to bhI ho sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! prayojanabhUt tattvo.nko sugamatAse samajhaneke liye sabase saral shAstra kaun-sA hai?

samAdhAnaH- saral upAy to ek AtmAko grahaN kare. mumukShuH- kaun-sA shAstra saral hai? samAdhAnaH- bhedaj~nAnakI bAt jisame.n AtI ho, vah shAstra saral hai. parantu samayasArame.n sab A jAtA hai. to bhI usakA rahasya batAnevAle to gurudev the. shAstra to the, parantu usakA rahasya AchAryadev kyA kahate hai.n? in sabakA rahasya to gurudevane batAyA hai. samayasAr shAstrame.n to sab A jAtA hai. j~nAyakakI bAt, svabhAvakI, vibhAvakI sab, kartA-akartA sab bAt usame.n (AtI hai). muktike mArgame.n prayojanabhUt sab bAt samayasArame.n svAnubhUtikI sab bAt A jAtI hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!
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