Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 82.

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mumukShuH- pahale dravyadR^iShTi karanI yA pahale vyavahAr karanA?

samAdhAnaH- yathArtha dravyadR^iShTi ho vahA.N yathArtha vyavahAr A jAtA hai. pahale vyavahAr to anAdikA hai. dravyadR^iShTike sAth vyavahAr sAthame.n rahA hai. dravyadR^iShTi yathArtha kise kahate hai.n? ki usake sAth vyavahAr hotA hai. yadi sab ChUT jAye to vah dR^iShTi hI samyak nahI.n hai. samyagdR^iShTi ho, yathArtha dR^iShTi ho to usake sAth j~nAn hotA hai aur yathArtha svarUp ramaNatA hotI hai. aisI nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhi hai. dR^iShTi j~nAyak par gayI isaliye pUrNa mukti arthAt pUrNa vedan nahI.n ho jAtA. abhI nyUnatA hai, tab tak puruShArtha hai.

mumukShukI dashAme.n vah nakkI kare ki mai.n svabhAvase nirmal hai. usake bhedaj~nAnakA prayAs kare ki mai.n bhinna hU.N. yah sab ekatvabuddhi toDanekA prayatna kare. prayatna aur dR^iShTi Adi sab sAthame.n rahate hai.n. usakI bhAvanAme.n bhI vaisA honA chAhiye. ... nAsh nahI.n huA hai. svabhAvako svaya.n grahaN kare. jaisA svabhAv hai vaisA hI grahaN kare. phir paryAyame.n nyUnatA hai, ashuddhatA hai, sabako TAlakar shuddhatAkA prayAs kare.

mumukShuH- .. dR^iShTikA bal baDh jAtA hogA?

samAdhAnaH- paryAy hai hI nahI.n, aisA karanese dR^iShTikA bal baDh jAtA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. jaisA hai vaisA yathArtha jAne to dR^iShTikA bal baDhatA hai. paryAy hai. hai hI nahI.n, aisA mAnanA aisA dR^iShTikA viShay nahI.n hai. usakI dR^iShTike viShayame.n nahI.n hai. parantu paryAy vastu hI nahI.n hai aur dravyako paryAy hai hI nahI.n, yah yathArtha j~nAn nahI.n hai. dR^iShTike viShayame.n nahI.n hai. dR^iShTike viShayame.n paryAy AtI nahI.n. usakA dhyey ek dravya par hai. isaliye paryAy usakI dR^iShTime.n nahI.n hai, isaliye paryAy hai hI nahI.n, aisA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- ... rAgako jAnanA aur us prakArake svaya.nkA svabhAvakI orake puruShArthako jAnanA, to in tIno.nko jAnaneme.n koI a.ntar hai?

samAdhAnaH- jAnanA vah to jAnanA hI hai. rAgako jAne yA parako jAne yA puruShArthako jAne, parantu usakA svarUp jAne ki rAg vah vibhAvaparyAy hai. sharIrAdi paradravya hai aur yah puruShArtha hai, vah svarUpakI orakA puruShArtha hai. usakA svarUp jaisA hai vaisA jAnA. jAnanA to jAnanA hai, parantu usakA svarUp kaisA hai? j~neyo.nkA svabhAv bhinna-bhinna hai,


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aisA jAne. jAnanA hI hai.

mumukShuH- j~neyo.nkA svabhAv bhinna-bhinna hai, to jaise parapadArthake sAth koI sambandha nahI.n hai, vaise....?

samAdhAnaH- vah to jaisI vastu hai vaisA jAnatA hai. paradravya merA svarUp nahI.n hai, mai.n paradravyase bhinna hU.N, yah vibhAvaparyAy merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. aur yah mai.n sAdhanA karatA hU.N, yah jo paryAy hai vah a.nsh hai. pUrNa a.nshI jo pUrA hai, vah pUrNa hai vah svarUp bhinna hai aur yah a.nsh hai. jaise hai.n vaise sab prakAr jAnatA hai. svaya.n yathArtha jAnatA hai. yah sab jAnaneke prakAr hai.n. j~nAn to sab jAnatA hai. yathArtha jAne aur phir puruShArtha karane yogya ho us orakA puruShArtha hai. heyako hey jAne, upAdeyako upAdey jAnatA hai. jaisA hai vaisA jAnatA hai. (dravya) par dR^iShTi rakhatA hai. dR^iShTikA viShay grahaN karake sab kAyAme.n juDatA hai.

ek sphaTik vastuko grahaN kiyA ki yah sphaTik hai. saphed hai aur chamakavAlA hai, vah sab usake bhed hue. parantu ek grahaN kiyA ki mai.n chaitanya hU.N. astitvako grahaN karake phir sab jAnatA hai. astitvako astitva jAne, paryAyako paryAy jAne, malinatAko malinatA jAne, aise jAnatA hai. use bhinna karatA hai ki yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. yah paradravya hai, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. puruShArthase j~nAyakakI dhArAko ugra karatA hai. jAnakar vivek karatA hai. us prakAr usakA puruShArtha chalatA hai.

mumukShuH- apane astitvakI pakkaD rakhakar jo bhAv jis svarUp hai, us rUp use vah jAnatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- barAbar jAnatA hai. us prakAr use jo lAbharUp ho us kAryame.n juDatA hai. jo apanA nahI.n hai, usase bhinna paDatA hai.

mumukShuH- yAnI jo lAbharUp jAnaneme.n AtA hai us or sahaj hI usakA jor chalatA hai aur jo hAnikArak hai us orase...

samAdhAnaH- vahA.Nse ChUTanekA prayatna karatA hai. ghar sa.NbhAlakar sab kAyAme.n juDatA hai. chaitanyake ghar par dR^iShTi rakhe to dUsarA ChUT jAye, aur vah kare to yah ChUT jAye, aisA nahI.n hotA. usase bhinna paDatA hai. puruShArtha karake nirmalatA (pragaT karatA hai). use nirmalatAkA vedan hai. malinatAkA malinatArUp hai.

mumukShuH- Ap kahate ho ki sulabh hai, parantu hame.n to usase adhik durlabh bAkI kuCh nahI.n dikhatA.

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarame.n hI karanA hai, parantu vah kaThin ho gayA hai. svaya.n j~nAyakako pahachAne to saral hI hai. j~nAyakako bhinna jAna. sharIrase bhinna, vibhAvase apanA svabhAv


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bhinna hai. sab bhinna hai. AsAn hI hai, parantu kare to. na kare to durlabh hai. aise hI ananta kAl chalA gayA. ananta kAlase prApta nahI.n huA hai, isaliye durlabh hai, parantu kare to AsAn hai.

.. kitane sAl bIt gaye, Age baDhanA hai. bahut sAl bIt gaye isaliye ab kyA Aye? vah to kahanekI bAt hai. usame.n aisA nahI.n hai, yah koI laukik bAt nahI.n hai, yah to AtmAkI bAt hai. pratij~nA lI vah to achChI bAt hai. parantu merI tabiyat aisI hai na, isaliye. .. usakA lAbh milA aur pratij~nAkA prasa.ng banA. andar AtmAkA hetu hai... jo jij~nAsu hai use niShphal nahI.n jAnevAlA hai, phalegA. nij AtmAke hetuse pratij~nA lI hai.

mumukShuH- aisA hotA hai, bAharame.n akele shubhabhAvame.n..

samAdhAnaH- ... puruShArtha hotA ho to karanA, achChI bAt hai. nahI.n to gahare sa.nskAr Dale vah lAbhakA kAraN hai. ho sake to karanA, nahI.n to shraddhA to jarUr karanA, aisA shAstrame.n AtA hai. ho sake to dhyAnamay pratikramaN karanA. na ho sake to kartavya hai-shraddhA hI kartavya hai. shraddhAme.n pheraphAr (nahI.n honA chAhiye). shraddhA kartavya hai. to Age baDhA jAyegA. shraddhAkA bal barAbar rakhanA chAhiye.

j~nAyakake mArgake sivA dUsarA koI mArga nahI.n hai. bAharake koI kriyAkANDame.n mArga nahI.n hai, yah to a.ntarakA mArga hai. j~nAyakakI shraddhA karake bhedaj~nAn karanA, dravya par dR^iShTi karanA, sharIrase AtmA bhinna, vikalpase apanA svabhAv bhinna, sabase bhinna ek j~nAyakako bhinna karanA, dUsarA koI mArga nahI.n hai. sarvasva sab vibhAvase bhinna svaya.n hai. vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn, usakI nira.ntar dhArA, vah sab karane jaisA hai. usakI shraddhA barAbar karanA, ban sake to. dhyAnamay j~nAyakakI pariNati karanA, na ho sake to shraddhA karanA.

dev-gurune jo batAyA, dev-gurukI shraddhA aur AtmAkI shraddhA-do batAyA, vah karanA hai. dev-gurukA sAnnidhya mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. unakI mahimA karanI, bAkI j~nAyakakI mahimA karanI. j~nAyak mahimAva.nt hai, vahI pahachAnane yogya hai. usake gahare sa.nskAr DAlanA. ban sake to pariNati pragaT ho to achChI bAt hai, nahI.n to shraddhA kartavya hai.

... ChaH, chaudah kitane-kitane... AtmAkA kalyAN karaneke liye sab taiyAr ho gaye, gurudevake sAnnidhyame.n. sabake prasa.ng bAr-bAr Aye vah to ek AnandakI bAt hai. merI tabiyat aisI hai. itane sAl sabako Anandase... kitane vaShA tak vANI sunI. kitanA Ananda... pratij~nA lI thI, tab sab kitane ChoTe-ChoTe the. is bhavame.n sab taiyArI kar lenI. puruShArtha ho sake to karanA, nahI.n to sab taiyArI kar lenI. deshanAlabdhi,


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gurudevakI deshanAlabdhi prApta huyI. ekadam gahare bIj aise DAle ho ki turanta khIl jAya. aise gahare sa.nskAr DAlane.

... koI bahut hue hai.n, koI kam hue hai.n, aise huA hai. sab alag-alag Ate hai.n na, darshan ho tab sab bIch-bIchame.n A jAte hai.n, sab alag-alag Ate hai.n. aisA prasa.ng hai, mahAbhAgya...! yah sab ... prApta huA vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. usame.n AtmA svaya.n taiyAr ho, taiyAr ho to ho sake aisA hai. gurudev mile aur yah sab milA.

... AtmA bhinna, AtmAkA svabhAv bhinna, andar vikalpa Aye usase apanA svabhAv bhinna, sab bhinna hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, a.ntar AtmAkI mahimA, j~nAyakakA dhyAn rakhanA, vah sab karanA hai. bahut sunA hai, usakA andar raTan karanA hai.

mumukShuH- Apake aur gurudevake pratApase samAdhAn karate hai.n, to bhI bahut duHkh hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- bAra.nbAr prayAs karanA.

mumukShuH- achChA nahI.n lagatA hai, parantu dUsarA koI chArA nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- sharIr kAm nahI.n kare, usame.n kyA ho sakatA hai? kyA ho sakatA hai, jAnA paDe.

.. j~nAyak kaise pahachAname.n Aye, jIvaname.n vahI karane jaisA hai. gurudevane mArga batAyA vahI karanA hai. jain dharmakA rahasya kisIko jAnanA ho to usame.n A jAtA hai. adhyAtmakA rahasya. anyame.n ChoTI gItA Adi AtA hai. apaneme.n yah ChoTA shAstra (hai). sab (shAstra) sAthame.n nahI.n rakh sake to itane ChoTeme.n A jAtA hai. bAlako.nko kAm Ave, baDo.nko kAm Ave, sabako kAm Ave. aur siddhAnta praveshikA jise samajhanI ho usake liye vah bhI hai aur yah hai. ... yah sab shAstra to hai, yah ChoTeme.n sab A jAtA hai. vivaraN kiyA hai, thoDA-thoDA vah andar (AtA hai). ChaH dravya, nau tattva usakA thoDA andar (AtA hai). yah lok svataHsiddha hai, Adi sab liyA hai. sabako kAm Ave aisA hai. siddhAnta praveshikAme.n sa.nkShepame.n koI samajhe nahI.n to phir kahe, ab kyA karanA? ab kyA? sab ka.nThastha ho gayA. yah ek svAdhyAy karane jaisA aur ka.nThastha karane jaisA, sab prakArase aisA hai. samayasArame.n sab paDhe vah to achChI bAt hai, lekin nahI.n paDh sake to sa.nkShepame.n A jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- mUl gAthAe.N sab A gayI.

samAdhAnaH- mUl gAthAe.N A jAye. phir pravachanasArame.n dravya-guN-paryAyakA A jAye, isame.n ChaH dravya Adi. niyamasArame.n pAriNAmikabhAv AdikA sa.nkShepame.n A jAtA hai. kalashame.n svAnubhUti Adi, sabame.n tattva A jAtA hai. .. kyA AtA hai, yah jAnanA chAhe to


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isame.n sab A jAtA hai.

.. a.ntarame.n AyA, jise guN pragaT hue, muktikA mArga jise pragaT huA, a.ntarame.n jise darshan, j~nAn, chAritra pragaT huA, aise gurukI bhakti shiShyo.nko Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n. AchArya bhI shAstra likhate hai.n, tab siddha bhagavAnako, ariha.nt bhagavAnako namaskAr karake hI likhate hai.n. baDo.nko Age rakhakar hI shAstra likhate hai.n. AchAryako bhI aisA hotA hai. mAtra likhaneke khAtir nahI.n, bhAvase likhate hai.n.

kundakundAchArya bhI kahate hai.n ki mujhe jo Atma-vaibhav prApta huA, vah mere guruse prApta huA hai. devAdhidev ariha.ntadev bhagavAnakI para.nparA aur mere gurune jo mujhe AtmAkA vaibhav darshAyA, usase mujhe pragaT huA hai. aisA kahate hai.n. gurukI bhakti to Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. jise AtmAkI sAdhanA karanI hai, use gurukI bhakti to sAthame.n hotI hI hai. gurune jo dhyey batAyA ki tU j~nAyakako grahaN kar, us j~nAyakakame.n-us shuddhAtmAme.n koI vikalpa nahI.n hai. shuddhAtmA sab vikalpase bhinna hai. shubhAshubh bhAvo.nse usakA svabhAv bhinna hai. aisA guru darshAte hai.n. grahaN use karanA hai. gurune jo svabhAv darshAyA, us svabhAvako pahachAnakar a.ntarame.n grahaN karanA svaya.nko hai. lekin bIchame.n gurukI bhakti Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. pa.nch parameShThIkI bhakti, gurukI bhakti, jinho.nne mArga batAyA, unakI bhakti use sAth-sAth hotI hI hai.

jo AtmAkI sAdhanA kar rahe hai.n, use bhI gurukI bhakti hotI hai. to jij~nAsuko to sAthame.n hotI hI hai. jise darshan, j~nAn, chAritra pragaT huA, aise AchArya bhI gurukI bhakti (karake) guruko Age rakhate hai.n. padmana.ndI AchArya bhI jab shAstra likhate hai.n, tab jinendra devakI kaisI bhakti karate hai.n! Apake darshanase, bhagavAn! merA sab Tal jAtA hai. bhagavAn! bAdalake jo yah TUkaDe hue, jab meru parvat par abhiShek huA, us vakta indrane bhUjAo.nko phailAyA tab bAdalake TUkaDe ho gaye. kaisI bhakti kI hai, AchAryane bhI! jo AtmAkI ArAdhanA karate hai.n, ChaThThe-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate hai.n, nirvikalpa tattvame.n bAra.nbAr nirvikalpasvarUp pariNamit ho jAte hai.n. bAhar Aye tab shAstra likhate hai.n. tattvake, bhakti Adike likhate hai.n. AchAyAko bhI (bhakti) hotI hai.

samyagdR^iShTi jo gR^ihasthAshramame.n hote hai.n, unhe.n bhI gurukI bhakti hotI hai. to jij~nAsuko gurukI bhakti (ho, usame.n kahA.N prashna hai?) svaya.n kuCh jAnatA nahI.n aur jo mArga darshAte hai.n, unakI bhakti Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. tattvavichAr, dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti Adi sab bIchame.n AtA hai. a.ntarame.n vairAgya, virakti, shubhAshubh bhAvo.nse-vibhAvase virakti aur gurukI bhakti, svabhAvakI mahimA Adi jij~nAsukI bhUmikAme.n hotA hai.

... dUsaro.nko kar nahI.n sakatA, guru kahe, isaliye vah kar nahI.n sakatA hai, ...


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parantu use bhAvanAme.n shubhabhAvame.n svaya.nko Age baDhanA hai, usame.n shubhabhAv Aye binA nahI.n rahate. guruke Age ekadam vinayavAn (ho jAtA hai) aur bhakti Aye binA nahI.n rahatI.

dravyadR^iShTise svaya.n prabhu jaisA hai, paryAyame.n svaya.n pAmar hai. prabhu, bhagavAn, gurudev! mai.n to pAmar hU.N. aisI bhAvanA use hotI hai. usame.n bhI AtA hai, svaya.n dravyadR^iShTise prabhu jaisA hai, parantu paryAyame.n pAmaratA hai. sab mereme.n hai, aisI dR^iShTi ho tab tak Age nahI.n baDh sakatA. gurune hI sab samajhAyA hai aur guru hI sarvasva hai. aisA usake hR^idayame.n ho to vah Age baDh sakatA hai.

Age baDhanA hai, dravya par dR^iShTi karanI hai, bhedaj~nAn karanA hai, darshan-j~nAn-chAritra pragaT karanA hai, bahut karanekA bAkI hai. svabhAvame.n sab hai, parantu sAdhanAme.n sab pragaT karanA hai. isaliye shubhabhAvame.n dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti Aye binA nahI.n rahatI.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!
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