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mumukShuH- shubhabhAvakA avalamban kab tak hai?

samAdhAnaH- shubhabhAv bIchame.n Ate hai.n. a.ntarame.n jAneme.n dravyakA Alamban hai, parantu vyavahArame.n shubhabhAv Aye binA nahI.n rahate. ashubhabhAvo.nse bachaneke liye shubhabhAv use bIchame.n Ate hai.n. Alamban dravyakA hai, parantu bIchame.n vyavahArame.n bhI dev-guru-shAstrake nimitta hote hai.n. anAdi kAlase jo samajhame.n nahI.n AyA hai. usame.n pahalI bAr samajhe tok deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. koI devakA yA gurukA upadesh mile to aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. tab use andar pragaT hotA hai. Alamban svaya.nkA hai, parantu shubhabhAvame.n bhI vyavahAr shubhabhAvakA vyavahAr bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. vyavahArame.n dev-guru-shAstrakA Alamban hai. andar AtmAko pahachAnanA vah prayojan hai.

mumukShuH- ... to vastu prApta hogI. bhagavAn dikhe to vahA.N dauDakar jAyee.n.nge, aise AtmAko samajhanekI pyAs lage to j~nAnIke pAs doDakar jAye.n. use thoDA samajhAIye.

samAdhAnaH- usakA artha aisA hai ki yadi pyAs lagI ho to vah dauDakar jAtA hai. lekin pyAs nahI.n lagI ho to mAtra Upar-Uparase karatA hai. sachchI pyAs lage to-to bhItarame.n prayAs kiye binA rahatA hI nahI.n, to-to prayAs hotA hI hai, karatA hI hai, parantu pyAs nahI.n lagI hai. pyAs lage to-to jahA.N mile vahA.N sunaneko jAye, bhItarame.n prayAs kare, upadesh sune aur kyA kahate hai.n, gurudev eva.n bhagavAn kyA kahate hai.n, usakA vichAr kare. bhItarame.n bhedaj~nAn karanekA prayAs kare. yadi sachchI lagI ho to.

mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, yah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. aisI j~nAyakako pragaT karanekI yadi pyAs lagI ho to vah kiye binA rahatA nahI.n. koI bhI takalIph Aye to bhI use dUr karake, usako gauN karake vah karatA hai. parantu sachchI pyAs nahI.n lagI hai. pyAs lage to hotA hI hai. koI kahatA hai na ki, kaise karanA? bahut karate hai.n phir bhI hotA nahI.n. parantu bahut karatA hI nahI.n hai. pyAs lagI ho to prayatna hotA hI hai, hue binA rahatA hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- pyAs lagI hai, yah kaise patA chale?

samAdhAnaH- jisako pyAs lagI hai vah prayatna karatA hI hai. prayatna nahI.n karatA

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hai to samajhanA ki pyAs nahI.n lagI hai. prayatna jarUr karatA hai.

mumukShuH- pIChalI bAr garmIme.n Aye the, tab Apane kahA thA ki din-rAt aisI lagan laganI chAhiye ki na khAnA to Aye, na pInA to Aye, ek AtmAkI hI lagan laganI chAhiye. aisI lagan lagAte hai.n to bIchame.n koI pratikUlatA A gayI, sharIr asvastha hai, tamAm bAte.n A jAtI hai.n, matalab laganame.n bAdhA DAlate hai.n, to usame.n kyA karanA chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- laganame.n bAdhA koI nahI.n DAlatA. jisako lagan lagI ho usako khAnA nahI.n ruchatA, pInA nahI.n ruchatA, ghumanA-phiranA kuCh ruchatA hI nahI.n. sonA nahI.n ruchatA, kuCh ruchatA hI nahI.n. sab karatA hai, lekin bhItarame.n mujhe AtmA chAhiye, vah nahI.n milatA hai. khAtA hai, pItA hai, sab karatA hai, parantu jahA.N jAtA hai vahA.N, mujhe AtmA chAhiye. a.ntarame.n josh aur khaTak aisI lagan lage to hue binA rahatA nahI.n. use chain nahI.n paDatA. koI bAdhA DAlatA hai to bhI vah puruShArtha karake bhItarame.n bAharakI bAdhAe.N usame.n avarodh nahI.n karatI. a.ntar puruShArtha kare usako bAharakA kArya avarodh karatA hI nahI.n. bhItarame.n hue binA, kiye binA rahatA nahI.n, karatA hI hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! shubh pariNAmo.nme.n puNyakA bandha to hotA hI hai, sAthame.n karmakA bhI bandha hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- shubhakA bandha hotA hai to karmakA bandha hotA hI hai? upayog svarUpame.n lIn ho jAye to abuddhipUrvak yA buddhipUrvak nahI.n hotA hai. parantu abhI a.ntarame.n abuddhipUrvak hai tab tak bandha hotA hI hai aur shubhaupayog hove to bandha to hotA hI hai. heyabuddhi hai, bhedaj~nAn hai ki mai.n bhinna hU.N, j~nAyakakI pariNati hai, parantu yadi upayog shubh hai to bandha hotA hai. bandha to hotA hai. jitanI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA hai, j~nAyakakI pariNati hai, utanA bandhase ChUT gayA hai. darshanamohakA bandha ChUT gayA aur chAritramohakA bandha hotA hai. darshanamohakI koI alpa prakR^iti ho to alpa bandha hotA hai. parantu darshanamoh ChUT gayA hai aur chAritramohakA bandha hotA hai. shuddhaupayogame.n nahI.n (hotA).

... shubhaupayogako palaTanA chAhiye. usame.n j~nAn, darshan to sAthame.n hote hI hai.n. upayog bAhar jAye, usame.n jo shubh pariNAm yA ashubh pariNAm, jo shubhAshubh pariNAm hote hai.n, usake sAth j~nAn to sAthame.n hotA hai. isaliye j~nAnakA upayog bhI shubhaupayog mishrit hai. j~nAn bAhar jAye to j~nAn shuddhAtmAme.n lIn ho jAye, aisA to j~nAn hai nahI.n. j~nAn shubhAshubhake sAth rahA hai. isaliye shubhAshubh upayogako palaT de. terA upayog svarUpame.n- AtmAme.n Ananda hai, usame.n terA upayog lagA de. vAstavame.n to j~nAnakA upayog hai, parantu usake sAth shubhAshubh bhAv juDe hue hai.n.

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bAhar rAg hai, bAhar ekatvabuddhi hai, usake sAth j~nAn juDA hai. bAharakA ras toD de aur a.ntar Ananda hai, usakI or jA. tere j~nAnakA upayog bAhar hai, use a.ntarame.n lA. shubhAshubh bhAvako bhinna kar aur tere AtmAke andar lA, aisA kahate hai.n.

mumukShuH- kahI.n achChA na lage to upayog andarame.n jAye?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, upayog andarame.n jAye. andar jAtA hai vah j~nAnakA upayog jAtA hai, parantu bAhar hai vah shubhAshubh mishrit hai. upayog bAhar hai (vah).

mumukShuH- ... andarame.n hI jAye?

samAdhAnaH- sachamuchame.n kahI.n ruche nahI.n, barAbar yathArtharUpase achChA nahI.n lagatA ho to upayogako kahI.n rahanekA sthAn nahI.n rahatA. upayog kahA.N TikatA hai? jahA.N rAg ho vahA.N Tike. rAg ChUT gayA, sachamuchame.n use rAg hotA hI nahI.n aur bAhar kahI.n ruchatA hI nahI.n, sachamuchame.n nahI.n ruchatA, phir upayog-j~nAnakA upayog kahA.N TikegA? pahale to shubhabhAv aur ashubhabhAvame.n TikatA thA. bAhya j~neyo.nke sAth rAg aur dveSh Adi hotA thA. ab, kahI.n ruchatA nahI.n hai to j~nAnakA upayog kahA.N jAyegA? svarUpakI or jAyegA.

vAstavame.n use yadi ras TUT gayA ho, kahI.n khaDe rahanA ruchatA na ho, ab kahA.N jAnA? ab kisake Ashrayame.n jAnA? yah Ashray to ThIk nahI.n lagatA hai, shubhAshubh bhAvakA Ashray barAbar nahI.n hai, vahA.N khaDe rahanA ruchatA nahI.n. kahA.N jAnA? to vah svaya.n svaya.nke chaitanyakA Ashray khoj legA aur a.ntarame.n gaye binA rahegA nahI.n. a.ntarakA Ashray khoj lenA, yadi bAharame.n Tik nahI.n pAyA to. svabhAvakA Ashray khoj legA.

mumukShuH- samayasArame.n dR^iShTAnta AtA hai na, samudrame.n jahAj par pakShI baiThA hai.

samAdhAnaH- samudrame.n jahAj par baiThA pakShI.

mumukShuH- pakShI UD-UDakar kahA.N jAyegA? vahI.n vApas A jAyegA.

samAdhAnaH- vahI.n A jAyegA, Ashray jahAjakA legA. vah dR^iShTAnta AtA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! j~nAnI chaubIso.n ghaNTe kyA karate rahate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- chaubIso.n ghaNTe use j~nAyakakA Ashray hai, j~nAyakakI pariNati hai. j~nAyakakI pariNatime.n rahate hai.n aur upayog bhale bAhar jAtA ho. jaisI usakI dashA ho, usake anusAr upayog bAhar shubhamee.n usakI bhUmikA anusAr jAtA hai. gR^ihasthAshramame.n samyagdR^iShTi ho to usake gR^ihasthAshramake kArya aur shubhabhAvame.n upayog jAtA ho, parantu usakI pariNati, usakI pariNati nira.ntar chaitanyake Ashrayame.n hI hai. usane Ashray chaitanyakA hI liyA hai. dUsarA bAharakA Ashray use ChUT gayA hai. bhale hI sab AtA ho, parantu Ashray-chaitanyaghar

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mil gayA hai. apane gharame.n khaDA huA apanA ghar nahI.n ChoDatA. apane gharame.n hI chaubIso.n ghaNTe khaDA rahatA hai. gharake bAhar usake kinAre sab log Aye, usake sAth usakA bolanA Adi vyavahAr kare (lekin) apanA ghar ChoDakar jAtA nahI.n. gharake bAhar khaDe logo.nke sAth vyavahAr kare, parantu svaya.n apane gharame.n gharame.n khaDA hai. chaitanyakA Ashray chaubIso.n ghaNTe ChUTatA nahI.n. upayog bAhar jAye aur dUsarA vyavahAr usakA dikhAI de, sab shubhAshubh bhAv, gR^ihasthAshramame.n sab vyavahAr dikhAI detA hai, parantu usakA Ashray chaitanyakA hai. dev-guru-shAstra Adime.n dikhatA ho.

mumukShuH- shuddhi baDhatI jAtI hai?

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarakI shuddhi baDhatI jAtI hai. usakI bhUmikA anusAr usakI amuk shuddhi baDhatI jAtI hai. samyagdarshan hai, amuk prakArakA svarUpAcharaN chAritra hai. adhik shuddhi usakI bhUmikA palaT jAye to chAritrakI shuddhi visheSh hotI hai. parantu amuk bhUmikA hai to usakI shuddhi baDhatI hai, nirmalatA baDhatI jAtI hai. svaya.n apane Ashrayame.n hI khaDA hai.

... apekShAse use bhedaj~nAn ho gayA, svarUpAcharaN chAritra hai, anantAnubandhI kaShAy TUT gayA hai, use usakI shuddhi baDhatI jAtI hai. usakA Ashray vah hai. upayog bAhar jAye to usakI Dor svarUpame.n khI.NchatA rahatA hai. use chaitanyakA Ashray chaubIso.n ghaNTe hai, parantu upayog nij chaitanyako ChoDakar visheSh bAhar na jAtA (kyo.nki) DorI usake hAthame.n hai. kShaN-kShaName.n Dor apanI or khI.NchatA rahatA hai. upayogakI DorIko jyAdA bAhar (nahI.n jAne detA), svarUpakI maryAdA ChoDakar jyAdA bAhar nahI.n jAne detA. DorI usake hAthame.n hai. bAra.nbAr upayog bAhar jAye to bhI apanI or khI.NchatA rahatA hai. svarUpakA ghar ChoDakar upayogako jyAdA bAhar nahI.n jAne detA, upayogako bAra.nbAr apanI or khI.NchatA hai.

pata.ngakI Dor jaise hAthame.n hai. bAra.nbAr apanI or khI.NchatA hai. vah usakA kArya hai. bAra.nbAr upayogakI Dorako kShaN-kShaName.n apanI or khI.NchatA hai. svarUpakA Ashray hai, dravya par dR^iShTi aur j~nAn hai. chAritrame.n lInatAme.n bAra.nbAr upayogakI Dorako apanI or khI.NchatA rahatA hai. kShaN-kShaName.n khI.NchatA hai. svarUpako ChoDakar upayogako visheSh bAhar nahI.n jAne detA. usakI pariNatikA a.ntar kArya kShaN-kShaName.n chalatA rahatA hai. usakA vah kArya ChUTatA hI nahI.n.

svAnubhUtikI dashA ek alag hai, nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai. parantu bAhar khaDA- khaDA apanI Dorako svarUpakI or khI.NchatA rahatA hai. upayogakI DorI. upayog jyAdA bAhar nahI.n jAne detA. bAhar dikhAI de sab kAyAme.n, dev-guru-shAstrakI bhaktime.n, unakI

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pUjAme.n, shAstra shravaName.n, shAstra svAdhyAyame.n sabame.n dikhAI detA ho. chaturtha guNasthAname.n gR^ihasthAshramake koI kAyAme.n dikhAI detA ho, parantu DorI apane hAthame.n hI hai. DorIko jyAdA bAhar (nahI.n jAne detA). koI shubh kAyAme.n yA ashubhame.n, DorI apane hAthame.n hai. jyAdA jAne nahI.n detA.

mumukShuH- j~nAnIko rAg kAle nAg jaisA lagatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- kAle nAg jaisA... nij svarUpako ChoDakar bAhar jAnA, sachamuchame.n yah vibhAv hamArA desh nahI.n hai, ham yahA.N kahA.N A gaye? hamArA chaitanyadesh alag hI hai. yah to kAle nAg jaisA, sarpa jaisA hai. upayogakI DorI apane hAthame.n rakhatA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! mumukShuke pAs koI DorI hai? j~nAnIke pAs to..

samAdhAnaH- mumukShuke hAthame.n kShaN-kShaName.n DorI to pratyakSha usake puruShArthakI hai. mumukShuke hAthame.n ruchikI DorI hAthame.n rakhanI. usakI ruchi manda nahI.n paD jAye, dUsare kAyAme.n mumukShukI bhUmikAse adhik koI kAyAme.n, mumukShuko shobhA nahI.n de aise kAyAme.n jAnA nahI.n. AtmAkI or AtmArthakA prayojan, AtmAkA mujhe mukhya prayojan hai. pratyek kAyAme.n mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho, is prayojanake sAth dUsarA prayojan A nahI.n jAye-koI laukikakA yA dUsarA koI yA mAnAdi, aisA koI bhI prayojan nahI.n Aye. mujhe pratyek kAyAme.n AtmAkA prayojan hai. aisI AtmAkI ruchi, AtmAkI ruchi usake hAthame.n hai.

vah DorI to alag bAt hai, vah to DorI khI.NchatA hI rahatA hai. yahA.N to ruchiko AtmAke prayojan sivAy, dUsare koI prayojanake kArya, usame.n laukik kAryakA mujhe prayojan nahI.n hai. ek AtmAkA prayojan hai. mujhase rahA nahI.n jAtA, mai.n puruShArtha nahI.n kar pAtA hU.N, parantu mujhe prayojan ek AtmAkA hai.

... vah aise rAh nahI.n dekhatA ki jab milanevAlA hogA tab milegA. khAnA- pInA Adi nahI.n milegA, aise rAh nahI.n dekhatA. vah prayAs karane jAtA hai. vaise jise bhUkh lagI ho, vah puruShArtha kiye binA nahI.n rahatA. jise AtmAkI lagI hai, AtmAke binA chain nahI.n paDatA, usakI laganI lage vah puruShArtha kiye binA nahI.n rahatA. AtmAke vichAr kare, AtmAkI pratIt karanekA prayatna kare, pahachAnanekA prayatna kare, AtmA mujhe kaise prApta ho, usakA bAra.nbAr abhyAs kare, puruShArtha kare. kAlalabdhikI (rAh nahI.n dekhatA).

mai.n puruShArtha karu.N, mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho? aisI use laganI lage, vah rAh nahI.n dekhatA. aur jo puruShArtha karatA hai, use kAlalabdhi pak jAtI hai. puruShArthake sAth kAlalabdhikA sambandha hai. jo puruShArthakI rAh dekhatA hai, use AtmAkI lagI hI nahI.n.

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jise lagI nahI.n use kAlalabdhi hai. lagI hI nahI.n. AtmAkI lagI ho, vah rAh hI nahI.n dekhatA.

...svaya.n hI hai, parantu svaya.nko kahA.N svaya.nkI pratIt hai? svaya.n to hai. usakI laganI (nahI.n hai). use AtmAkI anubhUti nahI.n hai, AtmAkA vedan nahI.n hai. isaliye mujhe AtmAkI svAnubhUti, AtmAkA vedan mujhe kaise ho? j~nAyakakI pariNati mujhe kaise pragaT ho? hai to svaya.n, svaya.n svaya.nko pahachAnatA nahI.n, bhUl gayA hai. isaliye jij~nAsA, laganI lage binA nahI.n rahatI. svaya.n svaya.nko bhUl gayA hai.

mumukShuH- bhagavAnake samavasaraName.n devo.n aur indro.n Ate hai.n, us vakta vahA.Nke jo prajAjan hote hai.n, to devo.n aur indro.nke sAth mitrAchArI hotI hai? aisA koI prasa.ng banA thA? yA aisA kuCh ho sakatA hai? unake sAth mitrAchArI yA...

samAchAraH- devo.nko kisIke Upar... use koI upakAr huA ho aur koI devako bhAv Ave to koI manuShyakA, rAjAkA puNya ho to use le jAte hai.n, meru parvat para. le jAye, parantu use mitrAchArI ho yA aisA koI devakA prasa.ng bane, dev kuCh bAt kare, aisA ban sakatA hai. usake sAth mitrAchArI...

mumukShuH- jo akR^itrim jinAlay hai.n, vahA.N darshan karanekA bhAv Ave aur bAt kare to le jAye?

samAdhAnaH- jise bahut bhAvanA ho, usakA aisA puNya ho to devako vichAr AtA hai ki ise le jAU.N.

mumukShuH- Apako athavA gurudevako aisA koI prasa.ng banA thA?

samAdhAnaH- vah koI bAt nahI.n. solahave.n shAntinAth bhagavAn, unhe.n agale koI bhavame.n dev le gaye hai.n. sab mandiro.nke darshan karavAye hai.n. shAntinAth bhagavAnake jIvako...

mumukShuH- solahave.n bhavame.n? samAdhAnaH- agale bhavame.n. murgeke rUpame.n parIkShA kI hai, vah sab prasa.ng Ate hai.n. dev prasanna hokar, unhe.n vimAname.n biThAkar mandiro.nke darshan-shAshvat mandiro.nke darshan karane le jAtA hai. apane yahA.N chitra hai. na.ndIshvarame.n hai.