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mumukShu- utpAd aur vyay to kramasha hote hI rahate hain.
samAdhAna- utpAd, vyay aur dhruv, sab ek samayamen hotA hai. jis samay utpanna hotA hai, usI samay vyay hotA hai, usI samay dhruv hai. utpAd, vyay aur dhruv AtmAkA svarUp hai. utpAd, vyay, dhruv, pratyek dravyamen utpAd, vyay, dhruv hote rahate hain. svabhAvakI or muDe to svabhAvakA utpAd ho. ye vibhAvakI or hai to vibhAvakA utpAd hotA hai.
mumukShu- svabhAvakI or muDe tab use usakA utpAd-vyay kaise khyAlamen Aye?
samAdhAna- svabhAv to anAdi ananta svayam hI shAshvat gnAyak AtmA hai. vah to dhrav svarUp hai. dhruv bhI apanI or muDakar jo utpAd huA, apanI or svabhAvakI paryAy huyI, usakA svayamko vedan huA, vah svayamkA utpAd huA.
mumukShu- phir vyay?
samAdhAna- vyay-vibhAvakA vyay huA aur svabhAvakA utpAd huA.
mumukShu- svabhAvakA utpAd aur vibhAvakA vyay, us samay dhruv?
samAdhAna- us samay dhruv svayam hai.
mumukShu- yAnI gnAyak svabhAv?
samAdhAna- hAn, gnAyak dhruv hai. samyagdarshanakI prApti huyI, samyagdarshanakA utpAd huA aur mithyAtvakA vyay huA. mithyAtvakA nAsh huA aur samyagdarshanakA utpAd huA aur AtmA dhruv hai.
mumukShu- dhruv, paryAyako sparsha nahIn karatA hai na?
samAdhAna- gnAyak svayam dhruv hI hai.
mumukShu- to paryAyArthik ...
samAdhAna- .. utpAd hai vah paryAy hai. paryAy hotI hI rahatI hai. anAdise. andar svabhAvakA utpAd, vibhAvakA vyaya. phir jisakI dRuShTi AtmAkI or gayI use svabhAvakA utpAd, svabhAvakI nirmalatA, svabhAvakA utpAd hotA rahatA hai.
mumukShu- vibhAvadashAkA..