50 hote, sUkShma-sUkShma hotA jAtA hai. gneyase bhinna paDA, vah sthUla. phir rAgase bhinna paDA, thoDA Age chalA to guNabhed, paryAyabhed, usase upayog sUkShma kiyA. usase sUkShma ek dravyako grahaN karanA vah hai.
mumukShu- pahale dravya-paryAyarUp vastukA yathArtha svarUp savikalpa dashAmen pratItirUp Aye aur phir main gnAyak hUn, aisA pratItimen Ave, aisA koI kram hai?
samAdhAna- use vichArakI vidhimen aisA kram paDatA hai. gnAyak hUn, aise grahaN ho vah alag hai. vAstavamen to vah grahaN karanekA hai. usake vichArakI vidhimen aisA nakkI kare. shAstramen bhI AtA hai na ki pratham sudRuShTi so vichAr kije bhinna. sUkShma sharIr bhinna jAne aur vikalpakI upAdhi bhinna jAne. subuddhikA vilAs bhinna jAne. vah kram AtA hai, lekin grahaN to ekako karanekA hai.
sachchA grahaN kiyA use kahen ki jo ekako grahaN kiyA vaha. upayog dhIre-dhIre sUkShma-sUkShma hotA jAtA hai, Age jAtA hai taba. gnAyak grahaN ho to sab kram use ekasAth A jAtA hai. sthUl aur sUkShma. ekadam ho jAy, ekadam gnAyak grahaN ho jAy, jaldI ho jAy..
mumukShu- aisA bhI bane?
samAdhAna- hAn.
mumukShu- sIdhA gnAyakako grahaN kare aur dUsarA gnAn yathArtha ho jAya.
samAdhAna- hAn, ... ho jAya. use sAthamen A jAtA hai.
mumukShu- kisIko kam vichAraNA chale.
samAdhAna- kam vichAraNA chale. main kaun hUn? aisA vichAr karate-karate main gnAyak hUn, aise grahaN ho jAya. to usamen use vikalpake bhed, rAgase bhed sab ekasAth A jAtA hai. bhed so main nahIn hUn, parantu main ek akhaNDa dravya hUn.
mumukShu- pUrva sanskArakA kAraN banatA hogA?
samAdhAna- nahIn, pUrva sanskAr nahIn banatA. kisIkI vartamAn taiyArI ho to bane. chauthe kAlamen aisA ban jAtA. ekadam grahaN ho jAya. is panchamakAlamen to durlabh hai. jise antarmuhUrtamen ho jAtA hai, use ekadam grahaN ho jAtA hai.
mumukShu- Apako sahaj lagatA hai, aur hamen bahut ulajhan hotI hai. koI bAr vichAr karate samay ulajhanakA anubhav ho, koI bAr aisA lage ki nahIn, ye to sahaj hai. bArambAr vahI prashna kaise pUchhe?
samAdhAna- aisI nirAshA honekA koI kAraN nahIn hai. bhAvanA ho, isaliye vah vichAr chalate rahe. bhAvanA ho isaliye prashna bhI Ate rahe. jabatak antaramen svayamko jignAsA