Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration).

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amRut vANI (bhAg-5)

220 main hUn aur yah main nahIn hUn. yah vibhAvabhAv main nahIn hUn, parantu ye jo svabhAv hai jAnanevAlA vah main hUn, is prakAr yathArtha shraddhA karake phir lInatA karanI. shraddhA yathArtha ho, gnAn yathArtha ho to lInatA yathArtha ho.

usakI shraddhAmen barAbar na ho ki yah main yA yah main, is tarah shraddhA ThIk na ho to usakI lInatA nahIn hotI. shraddhA to yathArtha (honI chAhiye ki), yah hai vahI main hUn. yah gnAyakakA astitva vahI main hUn, ye jo vibhAvabhAv aur rAgamishrit bhAv hai vah merA mUl svabhAv nahIn hai. mUl svabhAv jo gnAyak akelA nirmal gnAyak jAnanevAlA, usamen koI bhedabhAv yA rAg yA usamen kahIn aTakanA nahIn, akelA nirmal jAnanevAlA hai vahI main hUn, is prakAr astitva grahaN karanA aur aisI shraddhA yathArtha karanI, to usamen lInatA ho.

mumukShu- lakShyake sAth lakShaNake bhAvabhAsanake viShayamen vichAr karen ki lakShaNakA bhAvabhAsana. jAnatA hai, yah jAnanA.. jAnanA.. jAnanA ho rahA hai vah koI jaDamen nahIn hotA, aisA anumAn (hotA hai), gnAnakA vedan hotA hai parantu vah hai to anumAn gnAn, anubhav gnAn to nahIn hai, anumAn gnAn hai ki yah jAnanA-jAnanA ho rahA hai, us parase jAnanevAlA jo hai vah main hUn, to ise gnAyakakA bhAvabhAsan kah sakate hain?

samAdhAna- use barAbar pahachAne to bhAvabhAsan ho, usake bhAvako pahachAne to vah bhAvabhAsan hai. usake svabhAv parase pahachAne, bhAvabhAsan yAnI usakA svabhAv hai use pahachAne to vah bhAvabhAsan kahalAtA hai.

mumukShu- yahAn mAtAjI! svabhAv yAnI gnAn lenA?

samAdhAna- hAn, gnAnako pahachAne.

mumukShu- gnAnakA svabhAv arthAt jAnanA.. jAnanA.. jAnanA. visheSh len to svako jAnanA aur parako jAnanA. aisA jAnapanA vaise to vah atIndriy hai athavA to amUrtik hai isaliye indriyakA viShay hotA nahIn. abhI to mAnasik gnAnamen usake svarUpakA khyAl AtA hai ki ye jAnanA.. jAnanA ho rahA hai, vah jahAnse utpanna ho rahA hai, vah jAnanevAlA ek abhed dhruv tattva so main hUn, aisA vichAr Aye use savikalpa bhAvabhAsan kahate hain?

samAdhAna- buddhipUrvakakA bhAvabhAsan hai. buddhipUrvak vikalpayukta bhAvabhAsan hai.

mumukShu- hAn, vikalpa-vikalpAtmaka.

samAdhAna- buddhipUrvak yuktise nakkI kiyA hai.

mumukShu- vah bhAvabhAsan to nirvikalpa anubhav kAlamen hotA hai. us prakArakA to hotA hai, parantu isamen bhI use spaShTa .... gnAnabhAvamen .. usamen use khyAlamen hai ki