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samAdhAna- gnAyak darshAyA hai. kartAbuddhi, use sthUlapane lage ki main kar nahIn sakatA hUn. parantu andaramen jabatak gnAyak gnAyakarUp nahIn huA hai, tabatak use antaramen kartAbuddhi paDI hai. usake abhiprAyamen. jo-jo vikalpa Aye, vikalpake sAth usakI kartAbuddhi juDI hai. jab yathArtha gnAyak gnAyakarUp pariName, gnAtA ho, tab use kartRutva chhUTatA hai. tab usakI svAmitvabuddhi yathArtha rUpase antaramen-se tab chhUTatI hai. pahale use vichArase chhUTe ki main kartA nahIn hUn. main jAnanevAlA hUn. parantu antaramen jab yathArtha pariNaman ho-gnAyak gnAyakarUp ho-tab usakA kartRutva chhUTatA hai.
mumukShu- sabako jAnanevAlA gnAn AtmAkA lakShaN hai?
samAdhAna- vah AtmAkA lakShaN to hai, gneyako jAnatA hai vah gnAn to hai, parantu vah dRuShTikI bhUl hai ki main gneyako jAnatA hUn. dRuShTikI bhUl hai. gnAn to gnAn hai, usamen dRuShTikI bhUl hai. AtmAkA lakShaN to hai, lekin dRuShTikI bhUl hai ki main gneyako... rAgamishrit ho jAtA hai. usamen rAgako dUr karake, gneyako bhinna karake akele gnAnako grahaN kare to gnAn lakShaN to AtmAkA hai.
mumukShu- usase bhinnatA kaiso hogI gneyAkAr gnAnase? jo sAmAnya gnAn hai. ApakA kahanA aisA hai ki sAmAnya gnAn AtmAkA lakShaN hai. gneyAkAr gneyamishrit jo hai vah AtmAkA lakShaN nahIn hai.
samAdhAna- nahIn. bhinna-bhinnatAvAlA gnAn, vah gnAn merA mUl lakShaN nahIn hai. mUl lakShaN to ek jANak tattva, jAnanevAlA tattva hai vah main hUn. usako grahaN karanA. jAnanevAlA jo sAmAnya jAnanevAlA.. jAnanevAlA.. jAnanevAlA jo vastukA mUl svabhAv hai usako grahaN karanA, usakA astitva grahaN karanA. usamen is gneyako jAnA, is gneyako jAnA aisA nahIn. svatasiddha jAnanevAlA hai. ananta shakti jisamen jAnanekI hai, vah jAnanevAlA tattva hai vah main hUn. usako grahaN karanA.
mumukShu- jo jAnanevAlA tattva hai, vah to lakShya ho gayA.
samAdhAna- hAn, lakShya.
mumukShu- aur lakShaN kyA hai? gnAnasAmAnya, gneyAkAr gnAn nahIn? gneyAkAramen jo sAmAnya gnAn hai (vah)?
samAdhAna- sAmAnyako grahaN karanA. visheSh grahaN nahIn karake, visheSh dvArA sAmAnyako grahaN karanA. jo dRuShTAnta AtA hai na? bAdalamen jo prakAshake kiraN dikhAI dete hain, us kiraNake pIchhe pUrA sUrya akhaNDa hai, usako grahaN karanA. kShayopasham gnAnakA bhed jo dekhanemen AtA hai, us bhedako grahaN nahIn karake mUl sUryako grahaN karanA. bAdalamen jo kiraNen hain, vah hai to sUryake kiraN, parantu bhed-bhed kiraN mAtra mUl vastu nahIn