mumukShu- paryAy svayam svatantrapane dravyakA Ashray letI huyI pragaT hotI hai. Ap jo kahate ho ki use dravyakA Ashray hai. paryAy pragaT hotI hai svatantra, parantu vah dravyakA Ashray letI huyI, apane ShaTakArakase pariNamatI hai. Apane jo kahA barAbar hai. aise hI hai.
samAdhAna- dravyake Ashrayase pragaT hotI hai, svatantra. kAraN dravya trikAl hai aur paryAy kShaNik hai.
mumukShu- aur parakA Ashray letI huyI pragaT hotI hai, tabatak dashAmen Asrav, bandha hai aur jab gnAyakakA Ashray letI huyI pragaT hotI hai, tab samvar, nirjarA, mokSha pragaT hote hain.
samAdhAna- samvar, nirjarA, mokSha (pragaT hote hain). parake Ashray-se to Asrav hotA hai. nij shuddhAtmAke Ashrayase shuddha paryAy pragaT ho to samvar, nirjarA hai.
samAdhAna- ... bhItaramen-se usako-gnAyakadevako grahaN karanA. ananta guNakI mUrti divyamUrti chaitanyadeva. usako pahachAnatA hai vah, jinendra dev, guru sabako pIchhAnatA hai. jo bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAyako pIchhAnatA hai, vah apane dravya-guN-paryAyako (pIchhAnatA hai).
mumukShu- bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAyakI pahachAnamen to apane dravya-guN-paryAyakI pahachAn hove to vApas vahI ... lag jAyagI, svAnubhakI. ananta bAr bhagavAnake darshan karane gaye, samavasaraNamen gaye, sAkShAt sarvagnadevakA bhI kiyA, lekin antar dRuShTi aur anubhav binA darshan nahIn huA.
samAdhAna- antaramen bhagavAnakA dravya kyA hai? kyA karatA hai? svAnubhUti bhagavAnane vItarAg dashA pragaT kI, use pahachAnA nahIn aur bAharase darshan kiyA, isaliye... jo yathArtha pIchhAn kare to apane dravya-guN-paryAyakI pIchhAn letA hai.
mumukShu- bhagavAnakA to paradravya, guN, paryAy unakI pahachAn karanemen to upayogakI to parasanmukhatA rahatI hai. phir apanI pahachAnake liye to vApas svasanmukhatAkA jor ho.
samAdhAna- dRuShTi to apane par denI hai. parantu nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. isaliye shAstramen aisA kahA hai. nimitta aur upAdAnakA sambandha hai. bhagavAn taraphalakShya