samAdhAna- ... gnAt ho jAy to dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv yogya lage to kahe, anyathA nahIn bhI kahe. svayam samajh le.
mumukShu- gnAnI kahate hI nahIn hai na. gnAnion kahate nahIn hai.
samAdhAna- jisamen lAbh dikhe usamen kahe, na dikhe (to nahIn kahe). .. to kuchh kahe bhI, prasang na dikhe to na kahe. puNyakI kachAs kaho, jo bhI kaho, karanA svayamko hai. vah mAlUm paDe yA na paDe, svayamko to svayamkI taiyArI karanI hai. mAlUm paDe to bhI svayamko puruShArtha-se karanA hai. mAlUm paDe to bhI svayamko puruShArtha karanA hai aur na mAlUm paDe to bhI svayamko puruShArtha karanA hai.
mumukShu- usamen thoDA jor Aye.
samAdhAna- to bhI puruShArtha to svayamko karanA hai. mAlUm paDe to baiThe nahIn rahanA hai. puruShArtha to svayamko hI karanA hai. puruShArtha karanekA hai, aisA koI kahe to bhI bhale aur us vakta ... bAkI puruShArtha to svayamko karanA hai.
mumukShu- ..
samAdhAna- .. sabake liye sugam panth taiyAr kar diyA hai. us panth par chalane- se sab mokShapurImen jA sake, aisA panth sabako prakAshit kar diyA hai, aisA panth gurudevane batA diyA hai. us panth par jAne-se sab mokShapurImen jA sakate hain. tabiyat aisI hai, lekin sab mandirake darshan.. gurudev virAjate the, vah bAt alag thI.
mumukShu- pUjya mAtAjI! hamAre prashna to vahI hain, parantu Ap jab uttar dete ho tab hamen vah sab uttar naye-naye lagate hain. hamArA yah prashna hai ki AbAlagopAl sarvako sadA kAl svayam hI svayamko anubhavamen A rahA hai, aisA samayasArakI 17-18 gAthAkI TIkAmen AchAryadev kahate hain. vahAn AchAryadevakA Ashay kyA hai? vahAn gnAnakA svaparaprakAshak svabhAv batAnA chAhate hain yA shiShyakI jo dRuShTikI bhUl hai, vah samajhAnA chAhate hain?
samAdhAna- usamen to dRuShTikI bhUl kahate hain. AbAlagopAlako anubhavamen A rahA hai, usakA artha aisA nahIn hai ki vah anubhUti, use AnandakI anubhUti ho rahI hai, aisA usakA artha nahIn hai. usakA artha aisA hai ki AtmA svayam astitva rUp-se,