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mumukShu- matalab vahAn astitva .. kahanA hai aur apanA dhyAn nahIn rahatA hai aur apanA AnandakA anubhav nahIn kar rahA hai, aisA hI na?
samAdhAna- AnandakI anubhUti nahIn hai. vahAn anubhavakA artha aisA nahIn hai ki use svAnubhav hai. aisA artha nahIn hai. svayam apane svabhAvarUp pariNamatA hai. bas! aisA usakA artha hai. AnandakI anubhUtikA artha nahIn hai. gnAnakA nAsh nahIn huA hai, parantu gnAn gnAnarUp pariNamatA hai. usakA astitva astitvarUp hai. parantu us astitvakI use pratIti nahIn hai. astitva gnAn gnAnarUp hai, parantu us astitvakI use svayamko pratIti nahIn hai. apanI taraph yadi lakShya kare to svayamko astitva grahaN ho aisA hai. gnAn gnAnarUp pariNamatA hai, lekin vah dekhatA nahIn hai. usakA svabhAv hI anubhUtisvarUp hai. vah svayam vedanasvarUp AtmA hai. parantu use vah pragaTarUpase vedatA nahIn hai.
mumukShu- vahAn to pratham AtmAko jAnanA aisA kahA hai, shraddhAn bAdamen, aisA liyA hai.
samAdhAna- jab vah svayam apanI taraph jAy (usamen) pahale svayamko gnAn-se pahachAne. vastu svarUp-se use pratIt yathArtha nahIn hai. pahale gnAn yathArtha karanA, phir pratIt karanI, phir AcharaN karanA, kram aisA liyA hai. anAdi-se svayamko sachchI samajh hI nahIn hai. isaliye vyavahAramen aisA kahe ki svayamne apanA gnAn yathArtha nahIn kiyA hai, isaliye tU yathArtha kar to shraddhA yathArtha hogI, aisA kahanemen AtA hai.
bAkI vAstavamen samyagdarshan, gnAn, chAritrANI mokShamArga (hai). yathArtha pratIt ho to hI mokShamArgakA prArambh hotA hai. lekin use pahale gnAn karanA chAhiye. usake mArgamen aisA AtA hai ki tU yathArtha gnAn kar, phir shraddhA hotI hai. isaliye pratham gnAn karanekA AtA hai. anAdikA anajAnA..
mumukShu- usakA artha yah hai ki pratham shraddhA karanI to hI gnAn huA aisA kahanemen Aye.
samAdhAna- hAn, shraddhA yathArtha ho to hI yathArtha gnAn hotA hai. parantu pratham samajh jUThI hai, isaliye pratham samajhan yathArtha kara. vyavahAr-se aisA AtA hai. kathan aisA hai ki vyavahAramen pahale gnAn yathArtha kara. sirpha kathan hai aisA nahIn, pahale use jAnanekA bIchamen AtA hai. pratIti bAdamen yathArtha hotI hai. gnAn yathArtha na ho to pratIti yathArtha nahIn hotI hai. parantu pratIti yathArtha ho to hI gnAnako yathArtha kahanemen AtA hai. nishchay dRuShTi-se aisA hai.
mumukShu- do bAt AtI hai.
samAdhAna- do bAt hai, do bAt aisI hai.