usamen pUrA dravya A jAtA hai. dravya par dRuShTi karanese usamen pAriNAmikabhAv samA jAtA hai.
mumukShu- pAriNAmikabhAv.. donon ekArtha hai aisA nahIn kah sakate?
samAdhAna- ek artha hai aisA nahIn, parantu us pAriNAmikabhAvamen dravya hI A jAtA hai. pUrNa dravya usamen A jAtA hai.
mumukShu- kShAyik paryAy athavA kevalagnAnakI paryAy bAhar rah jAtI hai, to phir pIchhe dravyakI koI ..
samAdhAna- kShAyikabhAv to paryAy hai na, dravya to anAdiananta hai. kShAyikabhAv bAdamen pragaT hotA hai, vah anAdiananta nahIn hai. isaliye usamen pAriNAmikabhAv to anAdiananta hai. isaliye dravya par dRuShTi karanepar usamen pAriNAmikabhAv A jAtA hai. usamen kShAyikabhAv to sAdiananta hotA hai.
mumukShu- kevalagnAnakI paryAy bhI nahIn hai.
samAdhAna- kevalagnAnakI paryAy nahIn hai. kevalagnAnakI shakti hai.
mumukShu- shakti hai?
samAdhAna- hAn, shakti hai, paryAy nahIn hai. pariNamanarUp paryAy nahIn hai, shakti hai. sab pAriNAmikabhAvarUp hai. sahaj AtmA sahaj gnAnasvarUp hai, sahaj darshanasvarUp hai, sahaj chAritrasvarUp hai. lekin vah chAritra yAnI kaun-sA chAritra? pUrNa pragaT chAritra, vah chAritra nahIn. sahaj chAritra jo svAbhAvik sahaj shaktirUp hai, vah sab usamen A jAtA hai. sahaj darshan, sahaj gnAn, sahaj chAritra, sahaj balasvarUp Adi sab sahaj hai. vah pAriNAmikabhAvarUp hai. pAriNAmikabhAv anAdiananta hai. usamen pUrNa gnAyak A jAtA hai. dravya par dRuShTi kI usamen pAriNAmikabhAv A jAtA hai. pAriNAmikabhAvako grahaN karanA athavA dravyako grahaN karanA, donon ek svarUp hI hai. chhahon dravyamen. parantu pAriNAmikabhAv anAdiananta hai. dravya jaise anAdiananta hai, vaise pAriNAmikabhAv dravyamen anAdiananta hai. bAkI udayabhAv Adi sab apekShit hai. kShAyikabhAv, upashamabhAv, kShayopashamabhAv Adi.
mumukShu- dravyako pAriNAmikabhAvako kathanchit bhed kah sakate hain?
samAdhAna- guN-guNIkA bhed kah sakate hain. koI apekShAse guN-guNI bhed kah sakate hain.
mumukShu- pAriNAmikabhAvako guN kahate hain?
samAdhAna- pAriNAmikabhAvako guN kahate hain, hAn, guN kahate hain.
mumukShu- guNonkA samUh hai?