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mumukShu- gnAnIke Ashrayamen rahe hue jIvako gnAnI jarUr samajhAte hain, aisA shAstramen AtA hai. shrImadajIne bhI likhA hai. kahIn aTakatA ho to. to ham kahAn aTake hai?
samAdhAna- vah aTakatA hai apane puruShArthakI mandatA-se. apanI taiyArI ho to svayam samajhe binA rahatA hI nahIn. gurudevane kitane upadeshakI dhArA barasAyI hai. nirantar spaShTa kar-karake diyA hai. kahIn bhUl na rahe itanA samajhAyA hai. parantu apane puruShArthakI mandatAke kAraN aTakA hai, dUsarA koI kAraN nahIn hai. apanI mandatA (hai). gurudev kahate the, "nij nayananI ALase nirakhyA nahIn harine'. apane nayanakI Alasake kAraN svayam andar dekhatA nahIn hai. apanA hI kAraN hai. sune, vichAr kare, vAnchan kare, parantu antaramen dekhatA nahIn hai vah apanA kAraN hai. apanI Alas hai.
mumukShu- gnAnI sambandhit AtA hai ki gnAnIko Asakti hai, parantu ruchi nahIn hai. to Asakti aur ruchimen kyA pharka hai? hamen bhI Asakti nahIn ho sakatI?
samAdhAna- gnAnIko ruchi nahIn hai, parantu Asakti hai, aisA AtA hai na?
mumukShu- hAn, vah AtA hai. kalake shIlapAhuDamen AyA thA.
samAdhAna- ruchi nahIn hai, ruchi uTh gayI hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT ho gayI hai. ruchi parapadArthakI sarva prakAr-se uTh gayI hai. chaitanya taraphakI pariNati ekadam pragaT ho gayI hai. parantu Asakti (hai). abhI use utanI vItarAg dashA nahIn hai, isaliye amuk jAtakA rAgakA, dveShakA pariNAm utpanna hotA hai. ruchi chhUT gayI hai. ruchi kaisI? samyagdarshanakI bhUmikAkI ruchi nahIn, ye to samyagdarshanamen jise ruchi kahate hain, samyagdarshanake sAth ruchi-pratIti kahanemen AtI hai, aisI ruchi use samyagdarshanamen palaT gayI hai. ata mAtra Asakti hai.
jignAsukI bhUmikAmen abhI use ruchi jo yathArtha rUpase, jo samyagdarshanamen ruchi-pratIti hotI hai, vaisI nahIn hai, use jignAsAkI ruchi hai. use to ruchi evan Asakti donon khaDe hain. ise to ruchi palaT gayI hai. Asakti mAtra khaDI hai. jignAsukI bhUmikAmen ruchi, Asakti donon hai. vah mandatA karatA rahatA hai. usakI bhAvanA karatA hai, abhyAs karatA hai.