Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 43.

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mumukShu- utpAd-vyay-dhruvakA gnAn bhI yathArtha hI honA chAhiye hai na?

samAdhAna- yathArtha honA chAhiye. utpAd-vyay-dhruvakA gnAn jaisA hai vaisA honA chAhiye. sab apekShAonse honA chAhiye.

mumukShu- is yathArtha gnAnamen dhruvakA Alamban abhiprAyamen A jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- yathArtha gnAnamen dhravakA Alamban, yathArtha gnAn-samyakagnAn ho to usamen samyakadRuShTi sAthamen hI hotI hai. samyakadRuShTi ho use samyakagnAn sAthamen hotA hI hai. utpAd-vyay-dhruvakI sab apekShAen AnI chAhiye. kuchh hai hI nahIn, akelA dravya hI hai, aise samajanese Age nahIn baDhA jAtA. bilakUl nikAl denese Age nahIn baDhA jAtA.

utpAd-vyay-dhruvavAlA dravya hai usamen nahIn AtA. nay aur pramANa. nay-pramAN sAthamen hote hain. pramAN jUThA nahIn hai. pramAN shAstramen kyon kahanemen AtA hai? jais nay yathArtha hai, dravya par dRuShTi karanevAlI nay yathArtha hai, vaise pramAN bhI yathArtha hai. ek dUsareko sAth denevAle hain. rAjA aur pradhAn sab sAthamen hotA hai. vah to donon bhinna-bhinna hain.

mumukShu- ek rAjA hai, pradhAn hai, vah sab..

samAdhAna- sab pahalU jAnane hain.

mumukShu- ekamen ahampanA karanA..

samAdhAna- yah dravya hai vah main hUn, aise dRuShTiko thambhAnI chAhiye. yahI main hUn, dUsarA kuchh merA svarUp nahIn hai, yah dravya hai vahI main hUn. aisA gnAyak, chetanatAse bharA jo dravya hai, vah main hUn. phir usamen kyA pariNaman hotA hai aur kaun-sI paryAyen hotI hain, vah sab gnAnamen AtA hai. pahalemen ek grahaN kar liyA, dhyey grahaN kiyA. phir usamen kyA hai, vah sab (gnAnamen jAnatA hai).

yah ek nagar hai, aisA nakkI kiyA, usamen dhyey bAndhA. phir usamen kyA-kyA hai use gnAn jAnatA hai. yah chaitanya hUn. aise dRuShTiko sthir kI, pratItako us par dRuDh kI. yah vastu hai, main chaitanya hUn, aisA grahaN kiyA. grahaN kiyA, phir usamen kyA hai? yah mujhe mAlUm nahIn hai. ek astitva grahaN kiyA. bAkI sab to gnAnamen AtA hai, main kuchh nahIn jAnatA. ek astitva (grahaN kiyA). nagar hai. usamen kyA hai, yah