150 bhagavAn kahalAte hain. jo bhagavAnako jAne vah svayamko jAnatA hai, aisA kahanemen AtA hai. kevalagnAn huA to bhagavAn ban gayA.
mumukShu- vah vyavahArik kAyAmen nahIn A sakate.
samAdhAna- vyavahArik kAyAmen nahIn Ate. sharIradhArI hote hain, lekin svarUpamen lIn hote hain. vANI chhUTatI hai to binA ichchhAke chhUTatI hai, sahaj chhUTatI hai. vyavahAr kAyAmen nahIn Ate. unakI nAsAgra dRuShTi hotI hai. kisIke sAmane dekhate nahIn, antaramen lIn rahate hain. unakI chAl alag hotI hai, unake vANI alag hotI hai. sab alag hotA hai. svarUpamen hI rahate hain. bolanemen alag lage, is jagatase alag hai. chAl alag hotI hai. nirichchhAse sahaj chalate hain. vah alag hI hotA hai. ve bhagavAn kahalAte hain.
mumukShu- bhagavAn aur yah jagat, donon bhinna vastuen hain, yA donon ek hI hai?
samAdhAna- bhinna hai. bhagavAn aur yah sab vastu, jagatamen to ananta vastuen hain. chaitanya bhagavAn to bhinna hai, vah vastu bhinna hai. bhagavAn aur vastu ek nahIn ho jAte.
mumukShu- to pUrA jagat bhagavAnakA yA kisI anyakA?
samAdhAna- ... jagat jagatakA hai aur bhagavAn bhagavAnake hain. jagat anAdiananta hai.
mumukShu- athavA bhagavAn jagatamen Ate hain?
samAdhAna- bhagavAn jagatamen Ate nahIn, bhagavAn jagatase bhinna hain.
mumukShu- jagatake andar jo jIv hain, vah bhagavAnamen to jAte hI hain.
samAdhAna- bhagavAn yAnI jagatakI ek vastu kahalAtI hai. jagatake bhagavAn kahalAyen, parantu bhagavAn aur jagat ek nahIn ho jAte. bhagavAn bhinna rahate hain, vastu bhinna rahatI hai. bhagavAn, jagat yAnI bhagavAn lokamen hai. parantu bhagavAn aur jagat ek nahIn ho jAte. bhagavAn antaramen to alaukik dashAmen hain.
mumukShu- gnAnIko aisA lagatA hogA, jagat aur...
samAdhAna- bhinna hai.
mumukShu- unhen bhI bhinna lagatA hai?
samAdhAna- hAn, bhagavAnako bhinna lagatA hai. jagat aur bhagavAn, donon bhinna hai. vikalpa hI nahIn hai, parantu bhinna hain. bhagavAn svayam apane vedanamen hain. jagatako bhagavAn nahIn vedate, bhagavAn usase bhinna hai.
mumukShu- vANI chhUTatI hai, vANI, vANI to .. mense chhUTatI hogI yA aise hI?
samAdhAna- bhagavAnako koI vikalpa nahIn hai. vah to sahaj chhUTatI hai. lokake puNyase chhUTatI hai. bhagavAnako ichchhA nahIn hai ki in sabakA hit karun aur upadesh